ATI X1800 XL woes!

Hello eveybody, like the title says I am having no luck with my new ATI built X1800 XL that I bought a couple of days ago.

After seeing some reviews and users experience with the card I decided put the X850XT aside for a second system and buy one of these new X1800 XL's.

Once I got it the first thing I did was remove the stock cooler to install a modified cpu cooler and noticed that the memory ic's are 2ns :eek: not 1.2/1.4ns like others are reporting. So right of the bat I wasn't too happy :mad: but not writting it off just yet. So after installing the card and loading new drivers(5.11 cats), I though i'd do some benching first but half way throught 3dmark05 it locked up :mad: Didn't know what to think so I tried running 3dmark05 again thinking it was a one time glitch(maybe) but after resetting my computer and running it again it lockup again WTF?? I could'nt beleive it, my X850XT ran flawlessly just before this card.

So I uninstalled the drivers and reinstalled them and still no luck :mad: . I should mention this is all on STOCK settings! No overclocking whatsoever!

So today I decided to format my drive and reinstall windows with only windows updates(SP2), 5.11 cats, 3dmark05, 3dmark03 and other nessesary drivers and thats it. I gained some confidence for the card over night thinking a reformat would do it but no I was wrong same lockups and lost all confidence in the card!

Please could someone help me!! Should I go back to the store and get an exchange? What should I do?? :confused:

I'd take it back and exchange it.

i had probs with the 5.11 cats try the 5.10s

5.11s resulted in glitches n blue screens so i went back to 5.10s
lots of safe mode me reboots for me this evening :(

2.0ns ram?!?! Ya man take that back it should be 1.4ns, reference design at least. Guess one had 1.6ns ram.

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Originally Posted by DilTech

I'd take it back and exchange it.

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Looks like thats what I'm gonna do.

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Originally Posted by SADS

i had probs with the 5.11 cats try the 5.10s

5.11s resulted in glitches n blue screens so i went back to 5.10s
lots of safe mode me reboots for me this evening :(

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Just tried the 5.10 cats but it would'nt even want to install, it gave me some error saying that the INF driver file could'nt be found for my card... downloaded the drivers twice from two different sites and got the same error. My card is a staburn one!!

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Originally Posted by deathman20

2.0ns ram?!?! Ya man take that back it should be 1.4ns, reference design at least. Guess one had 1.6ns ram.

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I am definetly cheesed about about getting 2ns ic's but they are the least of my worries right now as I cant even get the card to work right at stock settings! I was thinking if I exchange the card for another one it would probably have the same 2ns ic's as its probably from the same batch of cards. :confused: Is there a way of reading the code on the box to see what ic's i'd be getting???

i was going to say the reg 5.10's dont support the x1's you need either the 5.10 hotfix or 5.11's. i would bring the card back if i were you, not because of the ram but because of the lockups. i would think its getting enough power cause its not to much more than a x850 and you have a stong ps.

Did you remember to hook up the PCI-E power connector?

I would like to know how you determined it was 2.0ns? Do you have the part number from the chips? The x1800XL does come with a 500MHz memory clock, so 2.0ns would just do it. But I think thats cheap. ATI partners have shipped the x1800XL with 1.4ns (Sapphire for example).

Its also very likely that the after market cooler is not making contact with the core and hence the lock ups are due to overheating. I suggest you try again with the stock cooler. Who knows? It might just be better than what you have.

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Originally Posted by ahmad

Did you remember to hook up the PCI-E power connector?

I would like to know how you determined it was 2.0ns? Do you have the part number from the chips? The x1800XL does come with a 500MHz memory clock, so 2.0ns would just do it. But I think thats cheap. ATI partners have shipped the x1800XL with 1.4ns (Sapphire for example).

Its also very likely that the after market cooler is not making contact with the core and hence the lock ups are due to overheating. I suggest you try again with the stock cooler. Who knows? It might just be better than what you have.

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Yes of course I had the PCI-E power connected.

When you look at the ic's the last two numbers of the code is the speed rating. I have seen pictures from reviews sites of the 1.2ns and 1.4ns equipped cards so I do know where to look. I understand them trying to save money with the 1.4ns ic's but 2.0ns even though thats the speed the card is rated for is just not right as they where advertising with the the review cards much different. This happend to me last year during 6600GT days, they were reviewed with 1.6ns ic's but when I bought one they had 2.0ns ic's but oh well what can you do about it? :(

With my cooler it was getting great temps around 45c load but I still did try the stock cooler at the end before I put it back in its box for the return but still no go had lockups and the card ran hotter aswell so im sure that didnt help.

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Originally Posted by ahmad

Did you remember to hook up the PCI-E power connector?

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If the PCI-E power cord isn't connected it won't even boot the computer, so it has to be connected. Trust me, get get some next text at bootup saying, give me more power, plug me in. Did it once on accident after I reseated my card.

that is horrible my friend. A BBATI equipped with 2.0ns ram? That is pathetic. You would think a BBATI card would follow their own referenc design to a T and have 1.4ns ram equipped. I really hope you payed a lot less for that card compared to say a sapphire as we know those have 1.4ns ram. I was very lucky I suppose that my BBATI has 1.4ns ram though it too is starting to act up. I am deathly afraid ill RMA this card and get one with 2ns ram now.

UPDATE.

I went back to the store and got a replacement without any problems. Got home installed it and this one runs like it should :clap: . Ran 3dmark05 a few times in a row without any lockups or artifacts, so far this card is running much better than the last one :)

I will do some more testing making sure it runs flawless at stock settings before I get into overclocking as that is what I truely bought it for ;)

THOU MUST GIVE RESULTS !!! (05 :) )

AND UPDATE YOUR SIG !!!! (X850 in there ;) )

Perkam

did you check what ram was on your replacement card?

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Originally Posted by perkam

THOU MUST GIVE RESULTS !!! (05 :) )

AND UPDATE YOUR SIG !!!! (X850 in there ;) )

Perkam

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Okay okay I got some results, and I must say I am very happy so far!! :D :D

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Originally Posted by cantankerous

did you check what ram was on your replacement card?

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Oh and I checked my memory and I got 2.0ns ic's again but that dosen't seem to matter...im not complaining!! ;)


http://images5.theimagehosting.com/8...7mhz_small.JPG

i remember back when the x800's came out , they came with various mem ratings but when people checked samsung site basically they saw that it was identical memory but was rated at certain speeds at certain voltages, but was all from same waifer.

the only difference is luck of good waifer, middle/edge of waifer and so on but you get that anyway with any ic's. its how samsung always seem to have done stuff, and as can be seen, his stuff is running 747Mhz but supposedly only 2ns. hitting same speeds as other people with supposedly much better memory.

samsung probo skip a couple rounds of speed binning when they are only gonna rate stuff at 2ns compared to 1.2, but you'll probably have same luck of getting whatever speed no matter what its rated at.

what brand is it? so people know what brand to avoid... 2.0 NS just isn't acceptable, when the reference design is 1.4 or so... I'd be pissed the moment I see that and just return it right then.

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Originally Posted by drunkenmaster

i remember back when the x800's came out , they came with various mem ratings but when people checked samsung site basically they saw that it was identical memory but was rated at certain speeds at certain voltages, but was all from same waifer.

the only difference is luck of good waifer, middle/edge of waifer and so on but you get that anyway with any ic's. its how samsung always seem to have done stuff, and as can be seen, his stuff is running 747Mhz but supposedly only 2ns. hitting same speeds as other people with supposedly much better memory.

samsung probo skip a couple rounds of speed binning when they are only gonna rate stuff at 2ns compared to 1.2, but you'll probably have same luck of getting whatever speed no matter what its rated at.

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Hmmm interesting...i'll try to take a picture of one of the ic's and post it if anyone's going to be interested.

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Originally Posted by drunkenmaster

what brand is it? so people know what brand to avoid... 2.0 NS just isn't acceptable, when the reference design is 1.4 or so... I'd be pissed the moment I see that and just return it right then.

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ATI built X1800XL.

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Originally Posted by dvothecc

Hmmm interesting...i'll try to take a picture of one of the ic's and post it if anyone's going to be interested.


ATI built X1800XL.

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Dvothecc, plz post a pic of ram chips. ;)
I want to see it with my own eyes. :fact:

And while u at it of the core aswell.
Thanx

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Originally Posted by dvothecc

Okay okay I got some results, and I must say I am very happy so far!! :D :D


Oh and I checked my memory and I got 2.0ns ic's again but that dosen't seem to matter...im not complaining!! ;)


http://images5.theimagehosting.com/8...7mhz_small.JPG

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750mem is avg for 1.4ns ram on the XL, there's no way he has 2.0ns ram now...

Perkam

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Originally Posted by perkam

750mem is avg for 1.4ns ram on the XL, there's no way he has 2.0ns ram now...

Perkam

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Thats why i asked for a pic ;)
He might be reading the chips wrong :slapass: lol

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Originally Posted by mR Yellow

Thats why i asked for a pic ;)
He might be reading the chips wrong :slapass: lol

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Here you go...

http://images5.theimagehosting.com/DSC01631.2.JPG


http://images5.theimagehosting.com/DSC01633.JPG

Should have put the pics in a new post, wasent thinking...

Nice score dvothecc !! :toast:

I recived my x1800xl card today!!! it`s a connect3d and i have 1.4ns memory... havent tried it out yet.. iam waiting for my cpu.. :p:

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Originally Posted by dvothecc

Here you go...

http://images5.theimagehosting.com/DSC01631.2.JPG


http://images5.theimagehosting.com/DSC01633.JPG

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Ouch man that does suck, 2.0ns ram eek, i'd make sure that it doesn't work at default ;) Then again its doing really well, wonder if it was mislabled.

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Originally Posted by deathman20

Ouch man that does suck, 2.0ns ram eek, i'd make sure that it doesn't work at default ;) Then again its doing really well, wonder if it was mislabled.

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Yeah maybe they are mislabeld that would make sence I guess, but im not thinking about it much. I am very happy with it so far! :woot:

I wonder how other 2ns X1800XL cards are overclocking, hopefully great aswell!

Some new results :D


3DMARK05
http://images5.theimagehosting.com/9535_3DMARK05.JPG

3DMARK03
http://images5.theimagehosting.com/18326_3DMARK03.JPG

Nice OC. Sorry about doubting u. Just wanted to make sure.
Well ur 2ns ram doesn't seem to be hurting ur OC. Some ppl can't even get 750 with 1.4ns ;)

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Originally Posted by mR Yellow

Nice OC. Sorry about doubting u. Just wanted to make sure.
Well ur 2ns ram doesn't seem to be hurting ur OC. Some ppl can't even get 750 with 1.4ns ;)

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No worries, I would be the same. :toast: Soon I will get a bigger rad and put this card on water and hopefully push it even higher. :banana:

800Mhz on mems and 1.9V only on them? nice! :-)

this card is getting on my nerves, I wish I wasn't so hasty and waited for the XT. No matter what I still get artifacts in FEAR yet in nothing else. How is this possible I have no clue. On top of that everytime I try and use the voltage tool I get greeted by a solid black screen forcing me to reboot my system the second I hit set clocks. This is the 3rd time I have made a hasty decision on a video card and have regretted it. I fell into the whole X800VIVO flash crap which of course contained a failed core to begin with which is why it was vivo and not XT. I then got the X800XL which clocked like 20mhz over stock max and now this, yet again I knowingly buy a failed cored card expecting the best yet it never happens. I will not make this mistake again. If you want the best you have to pay for the best as you only get what you pay for.

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Originally Posted by dvothecc

Yeah maybe they are mislabeld that would make sence I guess, but im not thinking about it much. I am very happy with it so far! :woot:

I wonder how other 2ns X1800XL cards are overclocking, hopefully great aswell!

Some new results :D


3DMARK05
http://images5.theimagehosting.com/9535_3DMARK05.JPG

3DMARK03
http://images5.theimagehosting.com/18326_3DMARK03.JPG

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:eek: 9.5k would make it the third fastest XL we have on the forums !!!! :eek:

Congrats, dvothecc !! :up:

Perkam

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Originally Posted by cantankerous

I fell into the whole X800VIVO flash crap which of course contained a failed core to begin with which is why it was vivo and not XT. I then got the X800XL which clocked like 20mhz over stock max and now this, yet again I knowingly buy a failed cored card expecting the best yet it never happens. I will not make this mistake again. If you want the best you have to pay for the best as you only get what you pay for.

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:( Ouch. I jumped on at the time of the X800Pro Vivo flash. I got myself a 16-pipe card that still works today, worked at xtpe speeds, and now its water cooled by a new owner doing over 580/570 with stock volts. What card did you get? Mine was a Powercolor, and at that time had nearly a 90% flash rate success from the looks of it.

Sucks though you keep getting the short stick.

Can a core be damaged/faulty and only show artifacts in one game/bench but nothing else? I can't figure out why my card shows arties in FEAR but NOTHING else. The artifacts arent horrible horrible and aren't all the time but you can see them flashing on and off the screen periodically. I was hoping for a driver issue but considering no one else has these at all and I used 5.11 from a fresh format I think I am hoping for too much on this.

BTW anyone else greeted with black screens when using the overclocker utility either when pressing up arrow to raise voltage or when pressing set clocks?

When setting set clock, yes (then overclocker window on desktop are on different position a little) but not when i raise voltage.

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Originally Posted by perkam

:eek: 9.5k would make it the third fastest XL we have on the forums !!!! :eek:

Congrats, dvothecc !! :up:

Perkam

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Thanks Perkam :toast:

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Originally Posted by cantankerous

Can a core be damaged/faulty and only show artifacts in one game/bench but nothing else? I can't figure out why my card shows arties in FEAR but NOTHING else. The artifacts arent horrible horrible and aren't all the time but you can see them flashing on and off the screen periodically. I was hoping for a driver issue but considering no one else has these at all and I used 5.11 from a fresh format I think I am hoping for too much on this.

BTW anyone else greeted with black screens when using the overclocker utility either when pressing up arrow to raise voltage or when pressing set clocks?

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Well I dont know about the artifacts in FEAR, I havent played it much yet, but I have done their FPS test to see the differance with different settings and I saw not artifacts. Aside from that I would'nt get to bent out of shape over this just yet as these X1K cards are still new and kinda experimental. Give it some time and see what the new drivers have to offer, I heard they will be coming out in december sometime.

Oh and I dont have any problems with that overclocking program. Not yet atleast knock on wood! :)

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Originally Posted by dvothecc

Thanks Perkam :toast:



Well I dont know about the artifacts in FEAR, I havent played it much yet, but I have done their FPS test to see the differance with different settings and I saw not artifacts. Aside from that I would'nt get to bent out of shape over this just yet as these X1K cards are still new and kinda experimental. Give it some time and see what the new drivers have to offer, I heard they will be coming out in december sometime.

Oh and I dont have any problems with that overclocking program. Not yet atleast knock on wood! :)

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The artifacts are not easy to see but far from impossible. It isn't like the entire screen is littered with them but every few minutes its like a small bunch of little black squares flashes on and off the screen almost immediately but you see them in the corner of your eyes here and there every once in awhile. I can loop all 3dmarks and aquamark without issue for hours. I beat Quake IV (not the entire game however) without issue and from what I can tell from the 30 mins I played of COD2 it was fine too. I am hopefull as well that a new driver in a few weeks will rectify all problems with this card as well as a better program to set clocks and volts that perhaps stick as should and remail after a reboot/power up. I hope when 256M XT bios start floating around someone will have some positive results with them. I am unsure if I should RMA this card or sell it. Besides the very small issue with FEAR all else runs perfect so could this be a bad card or just a whatever type thing. If that is the case I can just sell the card and get an XT and start all over. If this problem gets rectified and I can finally feel happy with this card again like I did the first few days I owned it then I will keep it till next summer when the R580 comes out at which point I will go for the flagship model for the first time in my life.

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Originally Posted by cantankerous

The artifacts are not easy to see but far from impossible. It isn't like the entire screen is littered with them but every few minutes its like a small bunch of little black squares flashes on and off the screen almost immediately but you see them in the corner of your eyes here and there every once in awhile. I can loop all 3dmarks and aquamark without issue for hours. I beat Quake IV (not the entire game however) without issue and from what I can tell from the 30 mins I played of COD2 it was fine too. I am hopefull as well that a new driver in a few weeks will rectify all problems with this card as well as a better program to set clocks and volts that perhaps stick as should and remail after a reboot/power up. I hope when 256M XT bios start floating around someone will have some positive results with them. I am unsure if I should RMA this card or sell it. Besides the very small issue with FEAR all else runs perfect so could this be a bad card or just a whatever type thing. If that is the case I can just sell the card and get an XT and start all over. If this problem gets rectified and I can finally feel happy with this card again like I did the first few days I owned it then I will keep it till next summer when the R580 comes out at which point I will go for the flagship model for the first time in my life.

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Do the FEAR artifacts happen at any clocks? or just at your highest playable clock?

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1417/95408ps.jpg

hehe :p:

Very nice clocking card there my friend, my gosh.

dvothecc, as far as I can tell and remember they seem to happen at any clocks though I am going to go back to stock in a few and see again just to be sure.

lobs

spajdr, Really Sneaky !!!! :p: 5 points more than dvo in 05 lol...

Perkam

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Originally Posted by spajdr

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1417/95408ps.jpg

hehe :p:

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Nice scores spajdr ;) , glad to see your having better luck with this card as I know how frustrating it can be when things dont work right.

Nice one Spajdr. :toast:
U are inspiring me to go higher :D

@ cantankerous, everyone get a black screen when setting the clocks...u just hope it switches on again! When i get a black screen i just raise volts which most of the time it fixes the problem.

BTW Whats the highest voltage u have tried on ur card?

the problem for me is the screen doesn't come back. The LED on my monitor turns yellow and pressing the numlock key on my keyboard proves its halted. Only way to get it back is by a hard reset. Believe it or not I haven't tested above 1.150v which is pathetic.

On a side note I ran 3D01 for 5.5 hours with the door closed in a hot room last night and when I returned it was still running strong and without artifacts. When I left for work I left 3d03 looping for 9.5 hours straight and when I returned it was still going strong and without artifacts. This was at 575/550 1.125v. Why can my card go through all this torture yet FEAR throws artifacts no matter what? I even installed Lost Coast last night as I haven't tried it yet and with all details set to high, reflection set to reflect all and HDR set to all I had no artifacts while playing. I would assume that is putting pressure on the card as well. I have no clue what FEAR is doing to my card to make it flash little black squares but the fact that it isn't happening in anything else boggles my mind.

cantankerous# Are you sure that you are clocking the 3d clocks and not the 2d??:) Course EXACTLY what is happening to you happens to my x1800xt if i mess with the 2d clocks.

ALso..have you tryed another BIOS ??:)

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Originally Posted by cantankerous

the problem for me is the screen doesn't come back. The LED on my monitor turns yellow and pressing the numlock key on my keyboard proves its halted. Only way to get it back is by a hard reset. Believe it or not I haven't tested above 1.150v which is pathetic.

On a side note I ran 3D01 for 5.5 hours with the door closed in a hot room last night and when I returned it was still running strong and without artifacts. When I left for work I left 3d03 looping for 9.5 hours straight and when I returned it was still going strong and without artifacts. This was at 575/550 1.125v. Why can my card go through all this torture yet FEAR throws artifacts no matter what? I even installed Lost Coast last night as I haven't tried it yet and with all details set to high, reflection set to reflect all and HDR set to all I had no artifacts while playing. I would assume that is putting pressure on the card as well. I have no clue what FEAR is doing to my card to make it flash little black squares but the fact that it isn't happening in anything else boggles my mind.

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Only 1.150 :p:
Come on bud, u need to higher if u want to see results.
Mine also hangs if i don't ive enough volts on GPU. U have to have atleast 1.225 if want to go over 600 on the core ;)
I think ur fear problems is due to lack of voltage to the GPU.

Remember u are OC'ing the card...even if just a little. Maybe FEAR is pulling more power than ur other games...who knows :confused:

Seems to me ur card is just fine.

Can Someone with an XL or an XT w/ Fear try this: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...8&page=1&pp=25 . Thx.

Perkam

Have anyone tried pelt/water on the gpu yet ??? how mutch heat does it produce..? iam thinking doing my XL under 226w pelt and coooold tapwater :p: WHEN I GET MY CPU.... that iam waiting for!

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Can Someone with an XL or an XT w/ Fear try this: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...8&page=1&pp=25 . Thx.

Perkam

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I tried it! And it works!!!
My Max frames went from 155 to 180.

huh? That is the weirdest thing I have ever seen but am going to try it lol.

ROFL. It does work! All I have to say is what the hell? Very weird.

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Originally Posted by mR Yellow

Only 1.150 :p:
Come on bud, u need to higher if u want to see results.
Mine also hangs if i don't ive enough volts on GPU. U have to have atleast 1.225 if want to go over 600 on the core ;)
I think ur fear problems is due to lack of voltage to the GPU.

Remember u are OC'ing the card...even if just a little. Maybe FEAR is pulling more power than ur other games...who knows :confused:

Seems to me ur card is just fine.

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Hi, I hope you don't think I haven't tried higher cause believe me I have! The problem is any higher than 1.150 and my screen turns solid black and the computer halts not allowing me to go any higher without a hard reset of the system. I wish I could go higher. The problem I am having is FEAR has those little black squares even at STOCK speeds which should run fine at 1.100 volts. I shouldn't have to go higher to get it to run so I am not sure it is that. It does sound like I need more volts that but tool just isn't working well for me. I really must wait for another program such as ATI tool, Rivatuner, ATI Tray tools etc to hopefully come up with a better way that my card may like to work with when setting volts. The only way I can set clocks higher is with CCC. I set max to 575/550 and use the tool just to up the volts a tad but that is th best I can do for whatever reason. The other thing is this. You say 1.225 to hit 600mhz range on the core but that is also with high RAM speeds to go along with it. I don't think you need 1.225 for 600/550 do you? Perhaps 600/700.

I do appreciate your response though, all the help and ideas you guys have given me is very much appreciated. I'll keep you posted.

BTW my Lost Coast is doing what MANY others is doing and locking up with looping sound, very annoying.

damn it, tried to hit 10k in 3D Mark 05, but no go, i make more aggressive timing on RAMs, but it was not stable :-) but i really tried ...

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Originally Posted by cantankerous

Hi, I hope you don't think I haven't tried higher cause believe me I have! The problem is any higher than 1.150 and my screen turns solid black and the computer halts not allowing me to go any higher without a hard reset of the system. I wish I could go higher. The problem I am having is FEAR has those little black squares even at STOCK speeds which should run fine at 1.100 volts. I shouldn't have to go higher to get it to run so I am not sure it is that. It does sound like I need more volts that but tool just isn't working well for me. I really must wait for another program such as ATI tool, Rivatuner, ATI Tray tools etc to hopefully come up with a better way that my card may like to work with when setting volts. The only way I can set clocks higher is with CCC. I set max to 575/550 and use the tool just to up the volts a tad but that is th best I can do for whatever reason. The other thing is this. You say 1.225 to hit 600mhz range on the core but that is also with high RAM speeds to go along with it. I don't think you need 1.225 for 600/550 do you? Perhaps 600/700.

I do appreciate your response though, all the help and ideas you guys have given me is very much appreciated. I'll keep you posted.

BTW my Lost Coast is doing what MANY others is doing and locking up with looping sound, very annoying.

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The key with OC'ing these cards is the volts on the core.
U don't need 1.225 exactly on core to get 600, but u'll need to atleast raise it to 1.2 on core. From my experience mem voltage doesn't make much diffs to OC.

Thanks Mr. Yellow, what I was wondering is if you have a low ram clock of say 550 do you still need 1.2+ on the core to get 600+? I ask because I was under the impression that you only needed that much vcore if doing 600+ on core AS WELL as high mem clocks like 700+.

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Originally Posted by cantankerous

Thanks Mr. Yellow, what I was wondering is if you have a low ram clock of say 550 do you still need 1.2+ on the core to get 600+? I ask because I was under the impression that you only needed that much vcore if doing 600+ on core AS WELL as high mem clocks like 700+.

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Yup, u still need 1.2v on GPU to get 600 even if u ram is running at 550...well
thats what i've experienced.

ah, very interesting. I should look into this then I only have 1.125 set for 575 which is only 25mhz shy of 600 yet I am 0.075v away from your suggestion of 1.20+.

Thanks bud! I have something new to try with hopefully some luck.

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Originally Posted by cantankerous

ah, very interesting. I should look into this then I only have 1.125 set for 575 which is only 25mhz shy of 600 yet I am 0.075v away from your suggestion of 1.20+.

Thanks bud! I have something new to try with hopefully some luck.

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np ;)
Keep us posted

now that ATItool is available I surely will. Thanks again.

interesting is that if i set gpu more then 600+ I/O voltage can be 1.8V and its still stable. 680 is good with 1.25V but if i go to 700 it already need 1.325V. Which means that gpu will dont go much higher.

Hey guys,

I havent been around much on XS latley, been really busy at work but this morning I thought i'd get back to oc my X1800XL and found something strange, if I raise the mem to 750mhz from 700mhz there is no difference in my 05 score. :confused: Oh I also think I have the 1.25v bug where I cant go higher or it will just crash during 03 or 05 no matter what clocks.

http://images5.theimagehosting.com/650x700_post.JPG

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Further results and seem to be the max this card can do with the 1.25v GPU bug its got. I should mention that these results are on water as the other were on air. :cool:

I am quite pleased with the card but I wish I could raise the voltage higher, maybe someone will find a way around this bug...maybe a volt mod? :stick:

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dvothecc
Did you run also CPU test in 3D Mark 05? or only first three tests?
What about temperature on GPU with watercooling? under load with 700Mhz? how high it was?

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dvothecc
Did you run also CPU test in 3D Mark 05? or only first three tests?
What about temperature on GPU with watercooling? under load with 700Mhz? how high it was?

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No CPU tests only the 3 game tests.

I havent been watching with the 700mhz runs but with 650mhz and the same 1.25 voltage it peaked at 39c, its getting warm water from the CPU block thats why it might seem a little high for water. I will fix that soon with Y splitters when my new rad comes in but I dont think it will change my clocks, its the volt bug that limiting me to push higher. :(

because i can run three tests practically for over a hour, but when i add cpu test, it hangs and bluescreen (ati driver, infinite loop) and end, if i run just cpu test first, its ok. Its weird. but 700Mhz and only 1.25V? thats nice, i need 1.325V to get 700Mhz stable, or it hangs in second test. But funny is, sometimes i can get higher with lower voltage and sometimes not, its bermuda triangle :-s

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because i can run three tests practically for over a hour, but when i add cpu test, it hangs and bluescreen (ati driver, infinite loop) and end, if i run just cpu test first, its ok. Its weird. but 700Mhz and only 1.25V? thats nice, i need 1.325V to get 700Mhz stable, or it hangs in second test. But funny is, sometimes i can get higher with lower voltage and sometimes not, its bermuda triangle :-s

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To my surprise I cant get 700/800 to work now. :(

Earlier today I had no problem running it over and over since then I havent changed anything and I cant get even one pass in 05. I was going to try running 05 with the CPU tests to see if it would crash like spajdr said but now I cant even get the game tests to pass, it just locks up. hhhmmmm I dont know whats going on??? :confused:

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because i can run three tests practically for over a hour, but when i add cpu test, it hangs and bluescreen (ati driver, infinite loop) and end, if i run just cpu test first, its ok. Its weird. but 700Mhz and only 1.25V? thats nice, i need 1.325V to get 700Mhz stable, or it hangs in second test. But funny is, sometimes i can get higher with lower voltage and sometimes not, its bermuda triangle :-s

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I have the same prob , and i know it's not cpu. Raising to 607/607 solves it from lockup. Saph XL , XP , 5.13 , Atitool .11