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710/800 I can run higher mem speed but I have to raise vcore. I been trying to bang this one out and picked off two goals.
2K3 and 2K1 ran at 700/800
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...chmentid=39697
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...chmentid=39696
Linked below is a 2K1 run as well with pi and everest.
What's with the omega drivers?... Not bad other than that.
Its just the driver I was checking out.
I cannot submit results yet, need a futuremark qualified driver.
3-2-2-4 @ 375FSB 1:1 is the max I can run tightest timing on this memory. I will loosen it up and go for 40K netburst on 2K1.
Impressive.
What voltage you running at? I got like the same core as you and I'm very curious of how to crank it up just a wee bit more :)
Looks good Fugger :toast:
OK, so what BIOS on card and voltage on core? Were voltages set via ATI Tool, Winclk or Overclocker, they each seems to set different voltagages. Well at least ATI Tool and Overclocker do, I don't know about Winclk.
Either way it looks like I need to go back and do some more air testing, the cold bug I have yet to solve.
1.35v core
2v memory
xt bios atm
Not using any of the above programs to adjust voltages.
What utility are you using to flash the card?
XT bios !!! :D how ?
damn nice intel/ati score :clap:
Developer tools, I cannot share.
The XT bios I can share but handing it out is so dangerous, if you want to try it I cannot be 100% positive your card can run the new settings without image corruption at boot or even complete black out of card.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...chmentid=39700
Max PCIE 115Mhz gave me almost 1000 points. Card is at 710/800
This score beats the current #1 Intel netburst (held by me with GTX) single card 2K1 :toast: My previous #1 was at 5.7Ghz
The GTX was on water with 225w pelt too
nice results, never thought I would see an 10k XL yet. :)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...chmentid=39711
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...chmentid=39712
Reran with PCIE @ 115Mhz
710/800 on the VC
did you get 1000 for reaising pci to 115 fugger???
I don't know what you and reggie are doing but keep it up :toast:
single stage?
what volts on mem and gpu? what was the i/o voltage? any artifacts during the benches? or was it totally clean? be honest man.
My XL benched 668/882 with zero artifacts, thats whats crazy. I know this card can go a hell of alot further.
Im sad I cannot max memory speed with lower vcore as I know I do what GHZ hits.
It is my rig in the sig below. Its a 24/7 machine I game on. The motherboard is droop and core modded.
This is the same mobo I hit 450FSB on and benched at 404FSB 1:1 with the same memory on cascade.
Hey FUGGER,
What clocks on those last two runs? :woot:
I actually hit that memory speed on my card with 1.225 core voltage. I might just have to send you my card so you can flash it for me :D I'll try some existing DOS flashing util's and see if I can get anywhere.
Nice air results on the xl fugger.
Great work Charles - I'm glad to see your getting in some benching time.. :D
supposedly the 7800 512meg will do this at default clocks
Thanks guys,
This is an XL with a hard pass on current 256MB GTX for single card. I am waiting for XT from ATI before I go phase. I am down to one card and I dont want to mess this one up without a backup.
When flashing the bios with high overclock on CPU the x1800 will go blank for a few seconds and distort the screen to unreadable (looks bad) when you are flashing the rom. DO NOT REBOOT or interupt flashing the screen will return to normal when completed and stated it has completed sucessfully.
If you flash and have corruption, you need to cool the card more. Pay close attention to the mosfets on the face of the card. They will overheat with the new settings if not cooled by extra fan.
:toast: GG Fugger !
Your X1800XL aircooled has just beaten my 7800GTX phase-cooled by 50pts :slobber:
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/1102/102784yq.th.png
Do you find the XT bios does a better job than the stock shipped XL bios? If so why do you figure this is? If more testing is done I would love to flash my new card to see what I can come up with. Good job. BTW, what manufacturer or card is your XL?
I can do the same on the XL bios it doesnt seem to matter at all as I hit my highest numbers on XL bios. The XT bios has voltages and clocks set higher and works on my card that is the advantage to the XT bios if you can run it 24/7.
The other major difference I can see is the 512MB ram in certain tests vs the XT, Macci's 2k1 nature is most obvious to me.
I cannot hit the XT overclocks but I get close, it will be no contest once the memory is unlocked from the core.
Thanks for the response. One thing lacking right now is the ability to flash new volts and clocks to a current card for constant availability right from the cards bios. Seeing as though all overclocking tools are in their infancy they can't even retain setting changes after a system reset meaning everything has to manually be reset each time. There is speculation on whether these programs are even working 100% as results vary greatly between program used and cards used upon.
In time, like you said tools are infant again but in the end we have a lot more control. I have faith in ATI tool giving us that functionality soon.
Sounds gravy to me! I take it you know things that the average person doesn't in terms of programibility and functionality of this new core/mem design?
You mentioned a couple posts ago the memory being unlocked from the core. What does this mean?
Thanks again.
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Originally Posted by FUGGER
its official. stock amd64 4000+ and 7800 512 meg matches that. 10k at stock.
Wrong, he got under 10K at stock settings. @ 600/900 he got less than Fuggers '05 score as well. And just to remind you the XL is not the correct card to compare to the new GTX, thats the job of the XT.Quote:
Originally Posted by zabomb4163
where do you see that? All I see is a 7800GTX 512MB bottlenecked by a X2 3800+ at 2.4GHz.Quote:
Originally Posted by zabomb4163
Comparing LX to GTX 512. :woot:
great score FUGGER,
your score still faster then the 7800gtx 512mb clkd at 600/1800 :cool:
Hey Tank hows it goin'.Quote:
Originally Posted by cantankerous
I have been playin' with an 1800XL for a little while now. Have managed to get it up to 682/1674 on air. The core on this card is not thrilled with higher Vcore though. At 1.30+ Vcore the core OC goes the wrong way even though the die temps are in the low 50C's. Haven't had the time to find where the turning point is yet.
My biggest issue now is my old 2700Mhz, 512Mb cache sledgeclaw is sticking a cork in the cards tail pipe so I am only getting 9602 in 3DM05 with the clocks above.
It will be so nice when some decent OC/voltages tools pop up cause it's a bear right now lol.
Viper
Thats great score Fugger for $370 card :toast: . 10K on air, even overclocked is realy impressive.
So did you tried one of your extreme cooling solutions on it? Why i'm asking is that i might consider new Dimond AGP XL for my dothan rig. What i'm afraid is a coldbug issue. The card will be booting -28c inside chillbox. My last version of 6800U did fine at these temps, but the one i have now only boots to safe mode and once the flick that brings your desctop when booting it frezes at these temps.
I definetly would like to try XL. I cant flash XT bios since its not PCIe board. Without good bios tools to set the card up it be a pain in the a** with it. I realy like bios flashing options with 6800's, we got allot of tools on that :fact:
Sparing my XL till I can post scores on the board.
I am pushing 2K1 right now, 39,366 currently and creeping up.
hi n1ce OC ;)
i have the same card x1800xl but i only comes to 580 at the core with 1,35v. its the same with lower voltage 1,1v.
i mean no difference from 1,1v to 1,35v.
what´s the problem here? i have the new dfi ATI board.
new dfi nF4 Expert is shipped ;)
can anyone help me?
All you need is LOD and you there over 40K, heh but wait thats ATI we talking about no LOD here hehe. So you manged to kill one card :( i see. S**t happens, i dont think there is anyone here who didnt ever killed some hardware. ;)
I dont think those voltage tools work as they should man. Bios mod should be a way to go once you figure out a sweet spotQuote:
Originally Posted by Tom2110
i didn´t found any x1800xt bios with 256mb.
with which tool you flash the card?
Congrats FUGGER
Who was first to hit 10k on the XL? U or G H Z?
Very nice Fugger. Question though, when you upped your PCI-E speed did you notice it right away in tests? I tried it and upped it to PCI-E 110Mhz and I didn't get a single point incrase in at least 05. Was this mainly just a 01 benifit of doing this?
These are my results.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=39843&stc=1
Measely venice at 2.7GHz. I could get 9200+. All I need is my venice at 2.8GHz. Once I move to better cooling (current is stock with fan @ full speed), should be able to do better (10k) :)
ATI OCing utility worked great for me. The trick is you have to terminate all ATI processes running in the background to be able to use it.
Also, I saw the numbers. 4400+ X2 + 7800GTX 512MB default = 96xx marks in 05.
I would also like to now this.Quote:
Originally Posted by deathman20
Well I have managed to get this 1800XL up to 736/1710 on air with a 3DM05 score of 9809. With this 2700Mhz SledgeClaw I am not scaling worth a darn now though.
Viper
WOW :eek: Thats impressive.Quote:
Originally Posted by ViperJohn
Could u plz post voltages used?
1.316 Vcore, 2.221 Vdd and 1.885 Vddq unloaded and meter on card. The "set" voltages were higher as this cards actual voltages run well below what you set them at.Quote:
Originally Posted by mR Yellow
Viper
So u have to up them a bit to get the actual volts?Quote:
Originally Posted by ViperJohn
Did u use ATI overclocker (one found on driverheaven) for volts? I heard its slightly off on the volts.
I heard ATiTool is more accurate.
Yea, I noticed in a few tests with PCIE at 115Mhz right away.
Yes and ATItools wasn't any better. It is also buggy and can not set the memory clock yet. ATI's overclocker zip is also buggy but you learn to use it after a while (just do not close and try to reopen it). The problem with ATI's tool is it will only go up to a 2.20 volt setting with XL's and you have to use ATItool to get the memory higher.Quote:
Originally Posted by mR Yellow
The variation in set volts versus actual volts is most likely due to tolerance in the regulators feedback circuits components and it will probably vary from card to card. Using a DVM(s) to meter the voltages while setting and running is always a good idea when you are working with a given new card for the first few times.
Viper
Fugger was the improvement from the PCIe speed bump up across the board in all the benchmarks or just with 3DM01???Quote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
Viper
Can someone confirm this?Quote:
Originally Posted by ViperJohn
And what happens if you open and close and open again overclocker?Quote:
Originally Posted by ViperJohn
Ya I seemed to be getting a .025V drop in voltage across the board after I set it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ViperJohn
When I and others have tried to open the OverClocker a second time after closing Windows popped up a couldn't load driver error. Shortly after that a couldn't read bios error would pop up. It happened to me most of the time (once is a while it would reopen again) with the XL so I just learned to leave it open all the time. Other experience with it may vary as always.Quote:
Originally Posted by spajdr
Viper
Oddly I've never had that issue. I guess im special :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ViperJohn
Mine ran .030 low on Vdd and .035 low on Vcore. While I metered Vddq I didn't bump it up either. The undershoot will probably vary from card to card due to tolerance in the regulator chip itself and the components supporting it in the feedback circuit.Quote:
Originally Posted by deathman20
Viper
Oh I am sure it is not an across the board thing. Nothing ever is. Given card in a given system is surely a factor. For me it was just something I had to learn to work around.Quote:
Originally Posted by deathman20
Viper
I got my XT in today.
I tried to flash it to my Uber XL bios and it failed. I was able to flash back to original XT bios without any problems.
Out of the box it wants to do ~ 750/880
40K Netburst should be incomming soon.
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Originally Posted by FUGGER
Thats exactly what mine do as well fugger. Is it a club-3d card??? i´m starting to think that there some kind of bug. my card does not care if its 11 degrees or 52 degrees. it clocks exactly the same nomatter temps 750/880 :confused:
its strange that both our cards max out at the exact same clocks though.
Mine is a BBA
The current issues can hopefully be fixed with bios update. After playing with the XT for a few days now I cannot tell between XT and XL image quality and performance.
I wil be back on 2K1 for my 40K goal this weekend.
40k is a problem for a 5.3ghz Pressy + XT !!? :(Quote:
I wil be back on 2K1 for my 40K goal this weekend.
Perkam
The highest score besides myself on the orb is Shamino with a little over 37K. I was first over 38k and 39k with the XL
Cascade on the CPU and 41K+ should be my new goal.
I am very strong on 2K3 and 2K5 though and PCMark Intel is very strong.
intel ghz power :D
when will you get the 512mb GTX ? ;)
Not sure on the 512, still need to abuse my XT.
10k/20k... Sounds like what my 315 dollar stock cooled 7800gt and 220 dollar opteron with plain old water would have done if I had vdd/vgpu mods on it :|
I had 8.5k/18.7k with no LoD tweaking @ 3ghz cpu. Graphics far from max because no mods. Are you ever going to put one of your systems under a cascade instead of that vapo? I figured since you have access to the best cooling around and tons of hardware you'd be posting some big records... :(
it is on an intel.
Zabom, Did I mention somewhere "netburst"? You link up sli??
I will upload scores
A fireinside, ok, lets see 10K in 2K5 on that rig. ;)
search the orb for 4000 ~ 7000 cpu speed to find the top netburst.
Goodbye Twitchy, I will leave your kind notes to show people how much pissing on threads it takes to get banned by me.
i apolygise fugger. i deleted my post. i didnt see the netburst part.Quote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
I figured that, not a problem.
I find the scores powerfull :)
And Love the fact that you banned peopel that are :mad:
SMACK THEM AROUND :) :slapass:
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Originally Posted by Cpt Twitchy
Its not alwayes about being the best/fastest. Sometimes its about personal goals as well. and 40k on that rig is awesom.
ohh...by the way fugger, i already flashet my BIOS on my x1800xt, but did not do any difference at all. hoping another better bios will be around soon. and better drivers as well:)
I would have 10k but I did not want to risk a 335 dollar card that would only be in my bench rig for another 6 hours as my new gaming setup will be here any second.Quote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
Twitchy> took long enough ;)
What a difference more CPU makes. Finally broke 10k (10,184) in 3DM05 running 729/1710Quote:
Originally Posted by ViperJohn
with a 2900Mhz Opertron.
Best I could do before with a 512mb cache SledgeClaw at 2700Mhh was 9809 @ 736/1710.
The cards core OC dropped with the faster CPU keeping the GPU loaded up more I guess.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1452063
Viper
John, grats on the 10K from the XL. Damn nice cards for the money imo, clocks nearly the same as my XT except the XL memory was easier to push.
The 512MB on the XT helps some.
Thanks Fugger. System speed is still holding the score down but that is a project on the back burner for now.Quote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
Viper