pics to come in a few...too bad i don't have a good proc (i have a 3200+ limited to 2.6g on a dfi nf4) we'll see how this handles my stuff. pics in a bit
btw..
i can confirm that the TT BT does fit.
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pics to come in a few...too bad i don't have a good proc (i have a 3200+ limited to 2.6g on a dfi nf4) we'll see how this handles my stuff. pics in a bit
btw..
i can confirm that the TT BT does fit.
nice :D
waiting for more pics and benches :D :D
w00t...it's alive..and so far it's matched the max overclock of the dfi!
pics! with the bt tt attached!
www.otaking71.com/a8n32
hrm...clock gen is borked.
which khx is that?
i don't remember the exact model..but it's good old bh-5 3200 stuff.
btw i got this board through a nice hookup =)
http://www.otaking71.com/a8n32/priming.PNG
hehe...there's the clockgen oddity. this was the max prime stable i could get on the dfi nf4.....i'll have to reboot in a bit to see how much further i can go on this board....so far I'm amazed.
VERY painless overclock.
all i did was set everything to auto..and then set the mhz for the fsb/ram and the voltages...boom.
I wonder if my g5 would fit on that board, what are the dimensions of that heatsink u got on there Otaking71?
Very nice, looks like the typhoon fits in with plenty of clearance. God, that's one huge ass hsf.
fareast> it's a TT BT.
btw...on the a8n-e that this board replaced, i never could get past 233ish mhz ram with 1t....so this definitely doesn't suffer that problem.
this cpu could not prime past 2550 or so on the a8n-e...would do about 2600 on the dfi....going to reboot and try to 2.7 now that i've done a 45 minute prime session (i'm convinced there's SOME stability)
hrm..i'm posting this at 2.7 ghz...but prime crashes pretty quickly...
and it's not the memory (i just loosened it with a64tweaker)
odd...the board appears to have died on me...hrm...going to do a part swap to see what's going on.
very nice :toast: Please keep update how its overclock and its stability. I'm very interested to get this board since my last ASUS-P4B :p:
:eek: What happened. Hope everything'll be alright.
Mind doing a quick measure with a ruler or somthing of the part of the sink that has contact with the core? I know it's a TT BT but I don't know the exact measurements of the contact part, I need to see if my g5 universal plate will clear that heatpipe with no problem, right now judging from your pics, it's seems like it would be a problem which would mean this board = no for watercooling rig, not to mention the other stuff that was alrdy mentioned for wc'ing on this board previously.Quote:
Originally Posted by Otaking71
hrm..it appears the cpu has some how kicked the bucket.
apparently it was hard locking on reboots at 2.7ghz..so i went down and dropped the fsb from 300 to 295..and then it never posted again...put the proc on the a8n-e and still no post..hrm. don't have another proc to test.
yea..either the proc or the vid card is dead now...the last two things i changed were the fsb down to 295..and the pci to 105.
far east...i have no idea what you want me to measure.
as for what voltages i was using...all the boost voltages in the bios..and a 1.4625 main cpu voltage...3.2 ram voltage...i honestly have no idea what happened....i'll see about testing other stuff tomorrow.
if the videocard is dead, the board will beep...if the cpu is dead, it won't beep. simple as that ;) of course that's assuming you have some sort of speaker hooked up. ;)
yea..it's the proc then..i'll try another one tomorrow...sigh.
how odd that bringing the cpu back down would cause that....
i was using the stock 0502 bios..there's a new bios on their site..i just checked....wonder if that has anything to do with it.
whats the max voltage you can input? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Otaking71
Time to go out and get one of those dual core opty's.
man this is scary all these new boards killing cpus .. first the crossfire dfi and not the asus :stick:
Well, I've been scavanging for info on the BT fitting it, thanks for clearing that up. Looks like it had at least a 1/4" of clearance too. I bet it'll cool that "StackCool" sink very well. :)
Sorry to hear about the CPU. Makes me a little worried as I really find this board appealing.
i think my a8n32 is now defective. it's now taken a second processor..at completely stock.
my distributor is going to verify this with me tomorrow morning. he's got another board already waiting for me.
i popped in a second 3200+ into my a8n-e...verified it was fine....loaded it into the a8n32 with a cleared cmos....got into the cmos and saved and exit...dead proc.
I've honestly had an EXTREMELY bad streak of luck lately. I think it's just a bum board, we'll see what happens.
I did notice there's a new bios on asus' site last night. i'll flash it first thing on the new board (to not take any chances and report back)
a few more things...
yes..the board and proc run VERY cool on this board.
the top side of the board is black..the bottomside is blue.
we'll see if i have better luck with the next board...it's honestly probably just my bad luck.
(you'd swear somebody has put a curse/voodoo doll of me if you've known what's been going on with me)
I've actually built computers for 9 years now. I've to date killed 1 proc to overclocking prior to this board. The second proc I put in was stock.
it's scary
scary!
where did you get the board so early?
Overclocking the chip doesn't really increase the chances of it frying as long as your cooling is decent and you don't do crazy voltage (which the ASUS board can't do at all). Don't blame overclocking for it.
The board might be screwed, though.
is it as good as the DFI ? :eek:
better
:slobber:
Bit early to be saying that. (ive got an expert and a8n32 on order anyway to test)Quote:
Originally Posted by calcal
good price at xpcgear.com but its a pre-order. Anyone ordered from them? How are they to work with?
Another Crossfire board that's killing CPUs? :eek: Now something's not right. :stick:
it's nf4 :slap:Quote:
Originally Posted by xenolith
Oh yeah, sorry. These new "deluxe" and "expert" NF4 boards coming out the same time as Crossfire has got my head spinning.
I can tell you it is at least on par with the dfi nf4 prior to this bugging out. I have very good contacts with certain distributors, I happened to pull a favor which is how I got the board so early and cheap. The a8n-e could not get the proc to 2550 prime stable..the dfi nf4 could do just over 2.6ghz (not much past it...2.62 would never pass)..as did the a8n32..which is the last speed i tried was 2.61 which is par. I can tell you the dfi never managed to boot into windows at 2.7..the a8n32 DID.
>Otaking
This clockgen should work on the C51 : http://www.cpuid.com/download/ClockGen.zip
Please let me know ! :-)
Thanks
i will try it later today after i go swap the boards.
wtf is goin on? i was about to put my dfi up for sale to get this asus and now its killed 2 cpu's already? i think im gonna wait til the next revision so they can get the kinks out (and maybe change that retarded slot layout).
you seem to be pretty calm for someone that just had TWO cpus die on you.
I knew what I was getting into getting something that early. And my distributor has always taken very good care of me, so I'm not really terribly worried.
have you swapped yet?
Waiting to see how you get on too. I was gonna pre-order one of these today but I think I'll wait for your results first. Any news?
i'm actually posting this from my distributors warehouse...we'll see soon.
Okay...
my distributor actually didn't get their second shipment of these boards...he sold the last one before I actually called, he was assuming the second shipment would get in. So we looked at what was going on...and set up a few rmas...this will be looked into more closely.
The last board is going to another overclocker and we have warned him about my issue...and to immediately flash to the new bios to see if this still exists. This board is paired with a pair of gtx..and a fx-57....so we'll see what they turn up.
We set up an rma for the processors and it's all been taken care of. As soon
as his second shipment of boards gets in, I will have one.
I'm truly sorry to disappoint..i'd love to play with another one, but he just doesn't have it available for me.
A dead FX-57?Quote:
This board is paired with a pair of gtx..and a fx-57....so we'll see what they turn up.
yes maybe soon.
he's going to test with a FX-57?!?!
Geeee, wonder why Anandtech didn't have these problems.............Quote:
Originally Posted by Otaking71
Otaking:
How much vdimm were you running? I'm curious since I saw Tony's post on running low vcore/high vdimm killing CPUs.
I'll buy one as soon as they come in stock (+3000Venice...don't want to kill my 0517...) :D
Read the earlier post...
1.4625 + boost voltage
and 3.2 ram voltage
lemme clarify
my distributor had 3 boards
the first one was sold before i got there.
the second one, he let me have and was telling everybody else they didn't have them.
he let me know there was a third when i picked up and that he had only got three and was expecting more this week.
i called him as soon as i knew the board was killing procs.
he had 2 more scheduled to be in today that didn't get there.
the third was sold with the fx just before i called.
so the fx has a new board.
i'm waiting on the next batch.
My a8n32 has arrived. Will be putting my opteron 175 on water and testing this mobo out shortly. Hopefully no dead cpu :eek:
yea hurry. test test test.
Yeah, let us know... I plan to go with a 175 and an A8N32 as well... will be waiting for prolly 2 more weeks though for it show up in Canada :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by trza2k
What is the stepping on your 175?
I put my A8N32 motherboard into service yesterday afternoon.
This stuff is all working fine so far --
Win XP home SP2 installed and runs with no trouble.
The 81.85 Forceware NVIDIA drivers are working great with my XFX 7800GT
Installed the NVIDIA etnernet and SMBUS drivers from the motherboard CDROM.
The latest Creative labs drivers are working well with my Audigy II ZS
SuperPI ran to 32 Million places, though I didn't check the result's correctness.
I ran Prime95 mixed test on one core for 12 hours over last night. 100% / 0% CPU load
I'm running Prime95 two instances of mixed test on both cores now and that's
been working for the past 1.5 hours, 100% / 100% CPU load.
I played BattleField 2 1.03 at 1900 x 1200 x 70 FPS for about 4 hours tonight.
I had some problems with frequently repeatedly corrupted downloaded program files
from the internet over DSL when using Firefox or IExplorer "Save File" on
large files like the NVIDIA forceware driver program. It'd pretend to download them
fine but I'd most always get an error message about a corrupt executable when trying
to run the program. -- Someone on AT forums tells me that's an old / known
problem with the NVIDIA firewall Active Armor & NVIDIA ethernet controller so I guess
it's a software / driver bug that has happened on other motherboards besides the
A8N32, so that's worrisome / disappointing but not a knock off against the
motherboard.
Running two instances of Prime95 mixed test my temperatures reported by
ASUS PROBE II utility from the motherboard CDROM are 49C CPU, 47C motherboard.
When idle in WinXP without Cool&Quiet disabled the CPU temp is 46C and the
motherboard temp is around 44C. I'm using the stock AMD heat pipe HSF for the X2.
Here are the photos I've taken of my board / rig, including some that show how
the AMD heatsink fits, and how a Zalman CNPS 7000B-Cu fits, and how the
fit is with the Audigy II ZS and XFX 7800GT.
http://photobucket.com/albums/d40/qu...vegan/a8n32x2/
I'm running the default BIOS that shipped with the board for now.
One thing that kind of bothered me was that the BIOS seems set up to use
"Auto" overclocking including overvolting everything *BY DEFAULT*.. I think
that's horrible if I'm not mistaken. The first thing I did was reset the BIOS to
default settings, then went in and set the time, hardware configurations, and
set all the voltage / frqeuency overclocking settings to MANUAL at stock / nominal
settings for my burn in.
If it is true that the A8N32 has contributed in a principal way to frying CPUs for one
poster here, I wonder if it could have had anything to do with poorly implemented
BIOS DEFAULT overvolting / overclocking settings? Though since he seems to be
an experienced OCer, I'd certainly assume he custom set all the parameters instead
of relying on automatic anything... Anyway that's a tragedy that he's had bad luck,
and I hope all will be OK with this motherboard for most people who get it!
Anyway so far I'd have to say my rig is working 100% perfectly at manually
forced "stock settings" during my 2-days of initial testing / burn-in. The only
problems I've had are probably just software bugs in the NVIDIA drivers etc.
The idle motherboard temperature of 45C is a little hotter than I'd like but increasing
the case fan speed from "low" (thermostatically controlled but the ANTEC PSU) to
"normal" (fixed 12V input) would probably solve that.
I haven't tested CoolNQuiet yet, it's not apparently functioning, I probably didn't
install the Windows driver for it yet.
I didn't install the NVIDIA IDE drivers yet either since I recall remarks suggesting
avoiding those. I hope they fix the bug that caused those corrupted downloads
though, and that it's a networking bug and not a storage one. Interestingly / scarily
"windows update" never complained about anything it auto-downloaded, I'm not
sure if that means it was all OK or if it means it just didn't check and who knows
what's corrupted now... Anyway that's off topic for the motherboard itself though.
The memory defaults to 333 MHz with my four mis-matched sticks including the
"value ram".. I don't know about 1T vs 2T and 400 MHz possibility yet, I'll memtest
that later.
Configuration:
Antec Sonata case
Antec TruePower 2.0 480W PSU
2 x 1 GBy sticks of Kingston value & 2 x 512 MBy sticks of PQI 3200 memory -- 3 GBy
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400
Creative labs Audigy II ZS
XFX 7800GT PCIE card
4 x IDE parallel ATA hard disks
Yea..I just either think I ran into a weird bios glitch that puts the power circuitry in a weird unrecoverable state..or I just got a bum board.
Right now, I've got an opty 170 running on an msi k8n neo4 (cheapest nf4 board they carry that I trust) ..until the a8n32 arrives..i'll get a good feel for how this opty runs (i'm at dual 2.65 prime stable now) and we'll see the difference going to the a8n32.
Synergy - does the reported vcore voltage fluctuate or differ than what you have set in the bios? Just wondering if this has been corrected since the premium has this issue. Thx
looks great so far !
Yeah the active armor / firewall for nf4 along with there ide drivers are horrible.Quote:
Originally Posted by synergy
These drivers have been known to cause major issues, so try uninstall use a hd tool to correct any errors and you should be fine. You only need the smbus, ethernet, and videos drivers.
I had one flake out one me so bad I just reformatted... :bs: Could be problems have been tamed in the new release 6.70 but I doubt it.
Yes, Vcore seems to be quite stable so far --Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt_Caveman
I don't have any long term logging s/w but I've stared at it a while when
idle and when running StressPrime2004 on one or two cores.
The BIOS came up with a default of 1.35V Vcore for my X2 4400 which
I hope is right. :)
I've seen it say 1.35 or 1.34V when idle or running at a moderate load.
When I was running my StressPrime2004 on both cores all the system
voltages semed to drop a little bit -- 5V, 12V, 3.3V, Vcore read:
4.97V, 11.90V, 3.26V to 3.3V,
and Vcore in that loaded state fluctuates from 1.33 to 1.34V readings.
So 1.33-1.35V is the range of Vcore, so that and the rest of my rails
seem to be holding up well under CPU stress load to within about 1%
or better accuracy as reported by ASUS PROBE II.
I'll try to check the accuracy with a DMM soon.
I did see one BIOS glitch -- I've been running mostly all BIOS MANUAL modeQuote:
Originally Posted by Otaking71
voltage / frequency settings, so no "AUTO" overclocks / overvolts are used
now for my box.
I was running WinXP just fine, told XP to "restart" to finish a driver installation,
it did its warm restart, then when it was going through the BIOS again
the BIOS halted with an error message something about
"overclock failed" or whatever and then it let me get into BIOS setup from
there. I looked at all the settings, they seemed just the way I wanted them,
so I exited without changing anything, and it booted right up and continued
working fine under Windows.
I guess the BIOS got a little confused or maybe WinXP erased something
that it used to keep track of system crash vs fine operation. Anyway
it seems fine.
Were you running 100% MANUAL overclock / overvolt settings with
those CPU problems BTW?
Good luck!
Thanks for the info! I was considering the DFI Sli-Expert but will go with the A8N32-SLI. But where the heck can I get one!!!!!!!!!!!! :banana: :banana:
Quote:
Originally Posted by synergy
What is the maximum vcore you can set on this board?
Are you playing battlefield with SLI-AA enabled?
Same here. It looks like we'll be waiting a couple of weeks. :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt_Caveman
You can preorder one for $205 at Tankguys.biz He has a pretty good rating too.
I NEVER let the computer do any type of auto overclock.
I'm a control freak =P
Quote:
Originally Posted by synergy
Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt_Caveman
As soon as my distributor has a stable supply, I'll let you guys know.
I don't have a SLI rig yet, though I'd try SLI-AA if I did.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElDuderino
From my recollection, the Vcore has a 0-200 millivolt "boost" overvolt, AND a normal range adjustment of up to 1.55 or so, so that'd mean the maximum
allowed was around 1.75. I've seen that posted somewhere.
I've got no intention of letting anything more than 1.40 near my X2,
but next time I reboot I'll look at the BIOS menu to confirm the options
are indeed present as advertised.
Keep in mind that the 8-phase CPU power supply circuit should do a better
job at supplying more stable, solid, clean, dynamic power to the CPU
even under extreme loading conditions, so there's probably less benefit
and need to overvolting the CPU just to maintain the desired Vcore
stability and current capacity.
this board is the shiznit, i might have to sell the dfi
:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by ElDuderino
LMAO :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by shiznit93
ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe Revision 2???
Found this on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Asus-A8N32-SLI-D...QQcmdZViewItem
Quote from auction:
"READ THIS BELOW CAREFULLY!!!!
This is a pre-order. Read the information below to find out why these boards are not available in any kind of quantity yet!
This board has been delayed by asus for an "slight issue" that they have now fixed. As you can see by the picture and caption below, there is a REVISION 2.0 now. You say to yourself, "I can't even find revision 1.0, now there is a revision 2.0?!?!?!" This is because there was a "slight problem" with the boards that asus and most of the other people who have this already have not mentioned publically. Review sites and the few select others got the early production run before problems were noticed and asus had to fix it. If you think about it, why are there no real reviews or talk from anyone important about this board? Everyone has been real quiet about this item for a reason. With a delay of over a month and possibly another 2 weeks that tells you something. Wouldn't asus be promoting the heck out of this thing as the fastest, best, "got the most awards", "best reviews", "highest rated on blahblahblahs website" motherboard available??? Why are they not promoting it? Because it was delayed and unavailable in quantity to the public. Be sure that when the board is available it will be running smoothly for everyone who buys it. We would like to applaud asus for making sure the board works good before it hits the mainstream public but the way they are going about it makes the distributors, resellers and consumers very upset. Ignoring the consumer is never a good thing and asus is doing just that.
As you can see by the others selling this they are taking advantage of eager consumers and charging a "slightly" higher rate. We are offering it at a reasonable price and 2nd day air shipping when they arrive in stock. We have an allocation of 50 of these from our vendor and were the 2nd reseller to have an order in for these (had the order in since October 7th). We are guaranteed to get the very first amounts of these from the largest asus distributor in the U.S. The estimated time of arrival is thanksgiving week. No concrete date has been set but the 23rd or 25th is potentially a date we are looking at from our sources."
From xbitlabs:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/d...108220829.html
Caption under pic of video cards on A8N32-SLI Deluxe:
"Two ASUS EN7800 GT Dual graphics cards on ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe Revision 2 mainboard. Click to enlarge"
Woh! Nice find Capt_Caveman :up:
Sounds like it could be true.
hrm....maybe i ran into the problem? =P
hopefully rev 2.0 wont be killing cpu's anymore.
absolutely retarded PCI/PCI-E Layout for those of us who still use the cards. Other than that, the one silver ASUS sink really throws the theme, what with all the copper.
I would be learly of that Auction. I know that it was already said the slow arrival of the board is because they were "being updated". So it's possible any new board is a rev2. I have a board coming on Nov15/16th, so we will see I guess.
Also, that guy is taking pre-orders for 30...
I know for a fact, that there are 20 pre-orders [money down] from where I'm getting mine, and they are only getting 2, that's TWO, coming in. From the sounds of it, there may only be 20 in total coming to Canada for Nov15/16th, and not much more for the US.
:stick:
Rev 2.0 eh? this Asus board appear to be more solid than the DFI and I very impressed by their 8 phase power feature, it doesn't require the Intel 8pin power adapter like the Expert does...which my PCP&C 510SLI doesn't has so that's a big plus. As for vdimm...for 24/7 usage I would never pump more than 2.9v onto the ballistix so the max of 3.2v is more than enough, the rest of the review at anandtech looks fantastic so I'm going to skip the buggy Expert and jump on this Asus as soon as it's available :D :D :D
I have this board and it's a rev 1.01
I bought it here in AUS 5 days ago and it's been running rock solid with an X2 4800 since first boot up.
Wonder what the alleged problems with the rev 1 boards are supposed to be. :confused:
This rev 1 being recalled may in fact be nothing more than BS.
EDIT: the pic showing the rev 2 board shows a sticker on the lower side of the pci slot saying rev 2. If it truly is a rev 2 board why arn't they showing it printed on the pcb?
Quote:
Originally Posted by lowdog
i've got 1.01 but noticed i cant even run more then 1.58volts !@#!#. So i kicked it out and put a dfi expert in today :P
u do realized there's a setting for a 200mv overboost or something which will kick ur vcore up to 1.775 or so.
Can anyone test this board in Fear using SLI-AA 8x or 16x please?
wonder what revision newegg is selling. got an email saying was in stock and in 15 minutes board was sold out of stock. :confused: so now i have to wait to get my hands on one. better be revision 2 when i get my hands on one.
I'd say there all still rev 1.01 and don't have any problems.
The rev 2 thing is just all scare mongering. The only ref to rev 2 was in one article where they were testing the Asus dual 7800GT's in sli on what was said to be a rev 2 A8N32. They showed no evidence of this other than a sticker saying rev 2 on the bottom of the pci slot, no picture of the pcb though!!!
There has also be no mention of the SUPPOSED bugs with rev 1. So looks like BS to me.
same here....got an auto-notify email from newegg at around 7pm but when I went to check on it 20min later they were all gone, WTF???
Same thing for me, by the time I clicked the link in the email POOF! they were gone :)
People are getting boards as recently as today from new shipments and they are all rev 1.01
I call total BS on the 1.01 is faulty and recalled and only rev 2 is shipping because it is the fixed board.....total BS, just one of those waves of conjecture/speculation/panic that sweeps the net when people realy haven't a clue what their on about. :slapass:
In that review with the 7800GT Dual's, it could have just been a "hand modded" board to make the quad gpu's work... It just looks like a sticker on the PCIE, not an official marking of any kind (looks like the stickers that a little machine we have at work makes, a little tag maker)....
maybe 1.0 is the first one, 1.01 is the 2?
I think 1.01 is the way Asus allways marks the first round of boards. It was that way on all my old Intel based boards from Asus anyways
So I guess the rev2 was just a ploy for an ebayseller to get some sales.
Dudes! it's really not wise to be fooled by the hype and shell out $250 for an unstable board. I paid $179 for an A8N-SLI Premium less than 2 monts ago and now the same card sold for only $163. I see none of you guys in need of an emergency upgrade as all of your sytems seems up to date. Having this board by itself won't get you in to 3DMark05 hall of fame so what's the hurry? Just wait until the board become widely available. I'm sure most of the problems will be fixed then, so you don't have to learn about them the hard way! And thats just my http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/1329/twocents6sr.jpg