65nm Pentium D 950 with 4MB L2

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11-07-2005, 12:30 AM
hicookie

65nm Pentium D 950 with 4MB L2

test later....

950 ES version, support HT.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c1...67-950copy.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c1...2/dd317409.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c1...2/7d261ed1.jpg
11-07-2005, 12:40 AM
railer

Nice. Lucky you :D So how will you test them? phase or water. And what about Dothan 780 D1 you mentioned in other post. How can i make sure i'm buying one?. Most of the stores wont say the steping
11-07-2005, 12:48 AM
Salvador

Woooow! Lukcy bastard :slapass: Should've got the 955XE tho' :D
11-07-2005, 12:52 AM
hicookie

first, test with stock cooler on C19 and 955X before 975X's coming.

later, will try LS for extreme.(before that i must find the safe voltage)

and Q2, sorry, i donnot know how to tell u to make sure u'll buy pentium D D1 from store.

thanks,railer
11-07-2005, 12:53 AM
hicookie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salvador

Woooow! Lukcy bastard :slapass: Should've got the 955X tho' :D

support board,945P 955X 975X, C19(not test yet )
11-07-2005, 12:55 AM
Salvador

Quote:

Originally Posted by hicookie

first, test with stock cooler on C19 and 955X before 975X's coming.

later, will try LS for extreme.(before that i must find the safe voltage)

and Q2, sorry, i donnot know how to tell u to make sure u'll buy pentium D D1 from store.

thanks,railer

Did you get that new 975X Gigaboard, you know the one with the nice turbocooling.. :banana:
Looking forward to results.. Expect a sick overclock from those new 65nm :fact:
11-07-2005, 12:57 AM
Salvador

Quote:

Originally Posted by hicookie

support board,945P 955X 975X, C19(not test yet )

Sry meant the 955XE, the one with HT. not the 955X board ;)
11-07-2005, 05:36 AM
IYP

:D awsome!

intents to sell? :p:
11-07-2005, 05:53 AM
dinos22

65nm already....great
11-07-2005, 07:03 AM
FireDragon

i cant belive that this thread hasn't exploded with post something like this DOES make me want to go intel

dragon
11-07-2005, 07:13 AM
mtb856

Wow, I can't wait to see your results. Nice looking chip too :D
11-07-2005, 07:42 AM
charlie

is it a completely redesigned core or just die shrink? ala Northwood>Preshot? Or still P4 technology?

C
11-07-2005, 07:59 AM
freecableguy

die shrink
11-07-2005, 08:33 AM
CrimeDog

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie

is it a completely redesigned core or just die shrink? ala Northwood>Preshot? Or still P4 technology?

C

the 9xx cpus are supposed to be two seperate cedar mill cores (65nm, netburst) on one package.

65nm dual core, 2x2mb cache, HT, you are a lucky man :) looking forward to results.
11-07-2005, 08:54 AM
Sentential

Holy cow thats alot of transisters :slobber:
11-07-2005, 09:05 AM
PoL

No more Dual Core, now they are Double Core.
11-07-2005, 09:13 AM
LarsK

Awesome hicookie

Now where are the results.... anybody else as excited as I am? you must know that when you post something like this everybody in here will pretty much go insane :woot:
11-07-2005, 09:28 AM
Stocky

I'm very interested in the results, I'd like to see how it performs against an overclocked Dothan :D
11-07-2005, 10:05 AM
Donnie27

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie

is it a completely redesigned core or just die shrink? ala Northwood>Preshot? Or still P4 technology?

C

It's a moded Prescott core and 100% Netburst.

Donnie27
11-07-2005, 10:08 AM
Kjaks

pop off the hs and soak it in liquid nitrogen :spill:
waiting for results..
11-07-2005, 10:16 AM
nguyenquochuy

Is it Presler ?
11-07-2005, 10:17 AM
PoL

i bet for it, but will gotta wait to find out. :D
11-07-2005, 11:23 AM
hicookie

:stick: sorry,everyone,

Get something to do,Now i must go training with reserve force for 3-5 days , :(

jsut heard the news,sorry test will delay one week.

nguyenquochuy< yes,it is prelser

Donnie27< correct,still netbust

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c1...2/0c8d9513.jpg

Kjaks< i'll prepare liquid nitrogen if it's needed, and forget the coldbug.
11-07-2005, 11:36 AM
Kadaj

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie

is it a completely redesigned core or just die shrink? ala Northwood>Preshot? Or still P4 technology?

C

presler and cedar mill include a piece of techology Intel calles " Intel virtulization technology" , basicaly it's a hardware lvl real time virtual partition creator. It serves no purpose in reality until Longhorn arrives, however Intel in all its wisdom by putting these piece of tech in presler and cedar mill, makes it not 100% compatible with all but 975X and 965X chipsets. The few people I've seen with 65nm Preslers and Cedar mills reported some small errors, such as freezing, BSOD's and such while using them with 955X.

Quote:

Is it Presler ?

presler is the single core 65nm processor, Cedar Mill is the Dual core 65nm processor.
11-07-2005, 02:32 PM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by hicookie

:stick: sorry,everyone,

Get something to do,Now i must go training with reserve force for 3-5 days , :(

jsut heard the news,sorry test will delay one week.

nguyenquochuy< yes,it is prelser

Donnie27< correct,still netbust

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c1...2/0c8d9513.jpg

Kjaks< i'll prepare liquid nitrogen if it's needed, and forget the coldbug.

meh forget training........tell them you've gotta OC that sucker heheheh
11-07-2005, 02:46 PM
n00b 0f l337

WOOT! WOOT! YES!
*bow*

I can't wait.... I so can't wait....
People you have no idea how happy i am.
11-07-2005, 04:26 PM
16floz470ml

I bet this chip could run like at least 4 video cards with no bottle neck :slobber:
11-07-2005, 04:47 PM
vanovich

cmon dude test the mother .
11-07-2005, 09:23 PM
railer

yea should be intresting results. But what i'm realy waiting for is merom and conroe. Those have new tech. But who knows what this litle monster cpu can do. We will wait for you hicookie, complete your training soon. I hope i will like the results as much as i like the chick with a sword on your avatar ;)
11-07-2005, 09:30 PM
Welz

this is gonna be sweet!!
:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
11-07-2005, 11:50 PM
Kjaks

Quote:

Originally Posted by 16floz470ml

I bet this chip could run like at least 4 video cards with no bottle neck :slobber:

yep, but then there would be no power left to calculate physics
11-07-2005, 11:53 PM
Kjaks

Quote:

Originally Posted by hicookie

Kjaks< i'll prepare liquid nitrogen if it's needed, and forget the coldbug.

soo, its got a cold bug? I didn't know that.. :confused:
11-08-2005, 12:03 AM
Aphex_Tom_9

whoa! 65nm already? I JUST GOT a 90nm chip! oy, behind the times.... lol
11-08-2005, 12:25 AM
Martijn

I want one :slobber: :D
11-08-2005, 01:19 AM
LarsK

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martijn

I want one :slobber: :D

We all do..... :D
11-08-2005, 05:42 AM
Xassius

Nice job acquiring one :D
11-08-2005, 07:25 AM
[KoG]^weaZel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martijn

I want one :slobber: :D

Put me down for two or three. :slobber:
11-13-2005, 03:35 PM
Mesce

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kadaj

presler is the single core 65nm processor, Cedar Mill is the Dual core 65nm processor.

Presler is dual core Cedar Mill is single core both 65nm. Cedar Mill is 2mb cache and Presler is 4mb Cache (2 per core)
11-13-2005, 03:45 PM
zir_blazer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mesce

Presler is dual core Cedar Mill is single core both 65nm. Cedar Mill is 2mb cache and Presler is 4mb Cache (2 per core)

Actually, Presler isn't Dual Core, is MCM. It got two Cedar Mill Cores on the same Package but they aren't physically in the same piece of silicon like Smithfield, Manchester or Toledo.
11-13-2005, 07:05 PM
PkG.1337

i hope intel dont dissapoint me again
11-13-2005, 08:58 PM
metro.cl

bench it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
11-14-2005, 08:43 AM
speed bump

Come one you have go to be back by know so you can bech his sucker.
11-14-2005, 09:09 AM
Kadaj

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mesce

Presler is dual core Cedar Mill is single core both 65nm. Cedar Mill is 2mb cache and Presler is 4mb Cache (2 per core)

I suppose I got the two mixed up, thank-you.

Quote:

Actually, Presler isn't Dual Core, is MCM. It got two Cedar Mill Cores on the same Package but they aren't physically in the same piece of silicon like Smithfield, Manchester or Toledo.

if that's not attention to minor details idk what is. Where in his post was he refering to how Presler is packaged? Dual is synomus with 2, not " two execution cores pacakged on the same piece of silicon "
11-14-2005, 09:54 AM
Kitaps

I want see benchmark results :slobber: I think 65nm will be good...
11-14-2005, 10:49 AM
Kadaj

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitaps

I want see benchmark results :slobber: I think 65nm will be good...

you shouldn't expect gold out of lead, Presler and Cedar Mill perform no better than Prescott and Smithfield, all the 65nm process serves is to decrease power consumption and TDP. They do overclock slightly better however than the 90nm counterparts, iirc, according to a preview I saw average overclock of a Cedar Mill was in the 4.3-4.5ghz range and on a Presler in the 3.9-4ghz range on stock Intel heatsinks.
11-14-2005, 11:31 AM
Nosfer@tu

Quote:

Originally Posted by PkG.1337

i hope intel dont dissapoint me again

How did they leet you down :p??
11-14-2005, 09:42 PM
PkG.1337

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nosfer@tu

How did they leet you down :p??

pentium D's design could be a lot better if intel didnt rush the design and production :rolleyes:
11-15-2005, 08:09 AM
Kadaj

Quote:

Originally Posted by PkG.1337

pentium D's design could be a lot better if intel didnt rush the design and production :rolleyes:

it wasent rushed, it is as possibly good as they could achieve without any major chipset re-designs.
11-15-2005, 09:13 AM
Vapor

It was rushed, they said it themselves.....this still isn't ideal but should certainly turn out better yields at the high end.

This certainly is one beast if it doesn't have a problem with the cold (it shouldn't--no on-die mem controller).
11-15-2005, 09:44 AM
Kadaj

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vapor

It was rushed, they said it themselves.....this still isn't ideal but should certainly turn out better yields at the high end.

This certainly is one beast if it doesn't have a problem with the cold (it shouldn't--no on-die mem controller).

nine months isn't exactly years of development, but it's not something they just threw together(now, I will admit, they did say they rushed it, however I think this to be a tad over-exaggeration). There were special on-die thermal diodes, and Over head management components that needed to be added, they even orginaly wanted to use indpendent busses for each core, however that now won't appear until paxville. I don't think the cold will be a problem, presler isn't widly different from Smithfield, it uses the packaging system that they orginaly prefered in smithfield, but were unable to integrate because of time contraints.
11-15-2005, 12:21 PM
Salvador

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kadaj

.... There were special on-die thermal diodes, and Over head management components that needed to be added, they even orginaly wanted to use indpendent busses for each core, however that now won't appear until paxville...

You do mean the Dempsey, right? ;) With dual 1066FSB.

Now bench this baby.. Have been gone too long now! :slapass:
11-15-2005, 04:07 PM
Kadaj

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salvador

You do mean the Dempsey, right? ;) With dual 1066FSB.

Now bench this baby.. Have been gone too long now! :slapass:

technically conroe is supposed to impliment dual 1.33ghz FSB's, but we'll have to see.
11-16-2005, 05:30 AM
Salvador

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kadaj

technically conroe is supposed to impliment dual 1.33ghz FSB's, but we'll have to see.

Heh, but the Dempsey is to arrive long before Conroe.! So it's (Dempsey) the first one to have dual FSB

Dempsey-> Q1 2006 (jan)
Conroe -> Later Q2-Q3(?)
11-16-2005, 08:07 AM
Kadaj

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salvador

Heh, but the Dempsey is to arrive long before Conroe.! So it's (Dempsey) the first one to have dual FSB

Dempsey-> Q1 2006 (jan)
Conroe -> Later Q2-Q3(?)

yea, but the difference is that conroe is going to cost several hundred dollars less, and work with rev 2.0 i975X chipsets

Looks like dempsey has been leaked already
http://www.tecchannel.de/server/hard...57/index2.html
its in german, but they're claming they have performance results for a dual 1.06ghz FSB sequence 5000 dempsey.
11-16-2005, 08:50 AM
Salvador

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kadaj

yea, but the difference is that conroe is going to cost several hundred dollars less, and work with rev 2.0 i975X chipsets

Looks like dempsey has been leaked already
http://www.tecchannel.de/server/hard...57/index2.html
its in german, but they're claming they have performance results for a dual 1.06ghz FSB sequence 5000 dempsey.

There are to other sites having testresults aswell.! ;)

http://www.realworldtech.com/page.cf...WT110805135916
(Only Est, but part 2 is real benches)

http://www.2cpu.com/review.php?id=110
11-16-2005, 09:50 AM
Cooper

Well Yonah working prototypes showed off already in the summer. So I`m not surpised that there`re already few working Conroes.
And NOT every presler/cedar mill will have vanderpool tech. Actually only few companies/ppl really need it. I`ve read that 65nm NetBurst family won`t have vanderpool, but i doubt it.
P.S. there are already two 6xx models available with vanderpool tech.
11-16-2005, 12:55 PM
i found nemo

those chips mop the floor with the loe-end opty
11-16-2005, 05:33 PM
Kadaj

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cooper

Well Yonah working prototypes showed off already in the summer. So I`m not surpised that there`re already few working Conroes.
And NOT every presler/cedar mill will have vanderpool tech. Actually only few companies/ppl really need it. I`ve read that 65nm NetBurst family won`t have vanderpool, but i doubt it.
P.S. there are already two 6xx models available with vanderpool tech.

defentaly good news, from all the sources I read it gave me the impression that it was going to be as standard as HT.
11-16-2005, 09:34 PM
AkXb70

i dont see the big deal with enabling/disabling VT...if its there it should be on. its not like it hurts the performance of the chip any or makes it more expensive to produce (apparently its already in the core since presler has it), and if you dont need it, you dont have to use it
11-16-2005, 10:21 PM
hicookie

update pi 1m with stock cooler

CPU: INTEL 950
RAM:trandscend ddr2-667 1g*4
mobo:P5WD2-P
cooler:stock cooler
power:echance 600W

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c1...2/5440e53a.gif

4.5G runs sp2004 only 44 C
11-16-2005, 10:43 PM
16floz470ml

That is a really low temp for a stock cooler. :)
11-16-2005, 10:51 PM
HawainPanda

holy....almost crapped in my pants :P that's some awsome temps at nice ocs
11-16-2005, 10:55 PM
HawainPanda

can you try running pi on both cores? I heard that the first intel D chips automatically reduced the clock of the second core when temps got too hot, is it the same with the new chips? also any idea how much these suckers will be?
11-16-2005, 11:22 PM
Coustang

This may seem like a lame question, but I've been out of the loop for a while...

What socket are these new CPUs going to be running on? 775/478/somthing else?
11-17-2005, 01:27 AM
Dumo

Welcome to XS Coustang :toast:

65nm :) ..This will be interesting..
11-17-2005, 01:35 AM
Salvador

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coustang

This may seem like a lame question, but I've been out of the loop for a while...

What socket are these new CPUs going to be running on? 775/478/somthing else?

LGA775.
i975X chipset for the 955XE processor.
i955X (i945) and i975X for the other 9xx processors?
Correct me if I'm wrong

Also heard something about i865P "supporting" :D 955XE
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=506271

Anyway, thats a amazing clock on stock cooler. :woot: And nice low temps!
11-17-2005, 01:38 AM
Salvador

Came over som benches comparing the 955Xe and the 840Xe.
http://www.hkepc.com/hwdb/65nm975x-6.htm
11-17-2005, 06:22 AM
dpa

looks like SLI works on the 975xe?
11-17-2005, 07:05 AM
Pressure

Quote:

Originally Posted by dpa

looks like SLI works on the 975xe?

It does, along with CrossFire. Although, not officially yet.
11-17-2005, 08:38 AM
Sesto Sento

I think that processor is screaming for some LN2 :D :rolleyes: :D
11-17-2005, 11:00 AM
Kadaj

Quote:

Originally Posted by dpa

looks like SLI works on the 975xe?

955X supports SLI and crossfire, the only problem with SLI is driver support, which isn't there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akxb70

i dont see the big deal with enabling/disabling VT...if its there it should be on. its not like it hurts the performance of the chip any or makes it more expensive to produce (apparently its already in the core since presler has it), and if you dont need it, you dont have to use it

no, but VT chips in i955X have caused some stability bugs that may or may not be fixable(if they create a whole series w/o it though, my guess is it's not), which could lead to some chips having VT and others not (so they may work in 955X and earlier chipsets)
11-17-2005, 11:05 AM
AkXb70

Quote:

no, but VT chips in i955X have caused some stability bugs that may or may not be fixable(if they create a whole series w/o it though, my guess is it's not), which could lead to some chips having VT and others not (so they may work in 955X and earlier chipsets)

backwards compatibility would be a good reason for leaving it out. i didnt think intel was going to allow that though
11-17-2005, 11:41 AM
amd3001

Do those 950's have hyperthreading also? Will these 950's run on a 955x chipset?
11-17-2005, 11:48 AM
AkXb70

Quote:

Originally Posted by amd3001

Do those 950's have hyperthreading also? Will these 950's run on a 955x chipset?

the 950's do not have HT...only the EEs will have HT (the 955EE will be a 3.46GHz 1066fsb part)
11-17-2005, 02:06 PM
Sentential

Hmmm..... seems like my interest for i975X may have actually increased after reading HKEPC's article.

(EDIT I will have an i975X to test very soon)
11-17-2005, 05:01 PM
hicookie

Quote:

Originally Posted by AkXb70

the 950's do not have HT...only the EEs will have HT (the 955EE will be a 3.46GHz 1066fsb part)

yup,PD 950 does't have HT
11-17-2005, 05:27 PM
socrilles

what kinda temps are you hitting with the stock cooler, and what kinda voltage increase did you need for 266 fsb?
11-17-2005, 05:32 PM
Nasgul

Quote:

Originally Posted by hicookie

INTEL 950 & stock cooler

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c1...2/5440e53a.gif

So, I guess it's safe to say there will be a: Post your Presley @ 300fsb Scrennie "sticky"?

Man.....300x17, 5.1ghz!! :woot:
And now onto find more black dots;
11-17-2005, 09:47 PM
mjgent

Quote:

Originally Posted by socrilles

what kinda temps are you hitting with the stock cooler, and what kinda voltage increase did you need for 266 fsb?

I'm pretty sure he said "4.5G runs sp2004 only 44 C" on the stock cooler and his SS shows Vcore=1.464. Unless I misunderstood the question. :confused:
11-19-2005, 06:26 AM
Kjaks

Nice temps with stock cooler! You should let it burn-in during a couple of nights to see if it enables you to lower volts.
11-19-2005, 06:44 AM
Nosfer@tu

Anybody read this ??

"Motherboard makers: Intel’s dual-core Presler has stability issue"
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20051115A7035.html
11-19-2005, 06:55 AM
Kjaks

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nosfer@tu

Anybody read this ??

"Motherboard makers: Intel’s dual-core Presler has stability issue"
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20051115A7035.html

yep, i've read it.. but it doesn't really concern me, cause i'm waiting for Yonah which in the same article is said to have no such problems :)
11-19-2005, 09:09 AM
saaya

only 44°C for an overvolted and overclocked to 4.5ghz dual core netburst cpu? :o
thats unbelievable! :o
11-19-2005, 10:00 AM
amd3001

If that holds true im going to get one of those 900 series cpu's for sure!! :toast:
Does anyone know when they are due out for sale?
11-19-2005, 10:11 AM
Salvador

Quote:

Originally Posted by amd3001

If that holds true im going to get one of those 900 series cpu's for sure!! :toast:
Does anyone know when they are due out for sale?

Pretty sure 'out for sale' in january. more like 1st of january..
11-19-2005, 01:09 PM
mjgent

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salvador

Pretty sure 'out for sale' in january. more like 1st of january..

Yes, unless they are having any problems. CPUs aren't usually slow to release like vid cards are they? :p:
11-19-2005, 01:13 PM
zbogorgon

any new oc results? i am eager to see how would this proc behave under some single stage.
11-19-2005, 05:49 PM
Salvador

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjgent

Yes, unless they are having any problems. CPUs aren't usually slow to release like vid cards are they? :p:

If what I heard is correct, Intel has no problems whatsoever with the 65nm transition.

Heard about some rumors of the 9xx chips beeing unstable, but noone knows for sure.

This chip doesn't look unstable, thats for sure. :toast:
11-19-2005, 11:11 PM
mjgent

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salvador

If what I heard is correct, Intel has no problems whatsoever with the 65nm transition.

Heard about some rumors of the 9xx chips beeing unstable, but noone knows for sure.

This chip doesn't look unstable, thats for sure. :toast:

Let's hope for the best. I'm ready to play.
11-20-2005, 07:22 AM
AkXb70

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salvador

If what I heard is correct, Intel has no problems whatsoever with the 65nm transition.

Heard about some rumors of the 9xx chips beeing unstable, but noone knows for sure.

This chip doesn't look unstable, thats for sure. :toast:

the thing is that its only mentioned to be problems with the 920 and 930 specifically. since they all use the same cores, it shouldnt be a core problem, but maybe early packaging problems?
11-20-2005, 07:33 AM
FragTek

Woooow :shocked: This is the kind of proc that makes me wanna go back to the dark side... :woot:
11-20-2005, 10:21 AM
Kjaks

Quote:

Originally Posted by FragTek

Woooow :shocked: This is the kind of proc that makes me wanna go back to the dark side... :woot:

Well, I would start to wonder if the AMD section still get most views per day when the new stuff from Intel pop up in the nests of overclockers. I'll allways be a nomade as long as overclock ability*performance/price is my God.
11-20-2005, 01:47 PM
PkG.1337

dual core 4.5Ghz on stock cooler
wow
presler smoked all the smithfield out there
it should do very good in pcmark
11-21-2005, 12:54 AM
IluvIntel

I really want to know how long untill Presler series available for sale in Australia ?

I'm getting "bored" with my 630, need a new toy to play with :p:
11-21-2005, 01:12 AM
Victorshen

Quote:

Originally Posted by IluvIntel

I really want to know how long untill Presler series available for sale in Australia ?

I'm getting "bored" with my 630, need a new toy to play with :p:

:D
i can take your sweet 630
11-21-2005, 01:21 AM
IluvIntel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Victorshen

:D
i can take your sweet 630

Ha ha, I recognize that avatar from OCAU forum... ;)
11-21-2005, 01:23 AM
Victorshen

Quote:

Originally Posted by IluvIntel

Ha ha, I recognize that avatar from OCAU forum... ;)

;)
yup
thats me, avatar is the same
11-21-2005, 01:25 AM
cirthix

impressive, good to see its a big improvement over prescott/dual prescott
11-21-2005, 02:07 AM
Salvador

What's happening Hicookie? Cruise around here at xs every fkucin day, hoping you will give us moore :banana:
11-21-2005, 08:19 AM
Kadaj

I know that some review samples had problems on i955X boards, mabye thats the stability issues they're quoting. My guess is that they were using VT samples, which isn't compatible on 955X so that's why it wasent working completly.

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