Beware (Monarch) Opteron 170 Results

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11-02-2005, 05:00 AM
cyberexia

Beware (Monarch) Opteron 170 Results

Look guys...I ordered an Opteron 175 from Monarch for $599. Now they have them for only $525. And they have the Opty 170's for $542...HMMM!
Anyway, they shipped it and I got it today ...guess what...I got a Opteron 170 instead of a 175 like I ordered!!!! The packing slip says 175 and everything, but the processor is in a 170 box and it's a 170!
Anyway, they will get an EAR FULL when they open up today. And I will get the 175 at the NEW price as that's ridiculus that they sell it at the old price when they are going to ship it today.

Anyway, MEANWHILE..I'll be overclocking the 170! WOOT!

So far here I am: Stepping: CCWBE!! UGH!
http://dpgjr.mstooling.com/opty170/opty170cpuz.jpg
I'm priming at the above settings right now.... MaxL temps are only 38C w/ devices in my sig. 28C idle.
ODD: For some reason even at 260x10 SPI 1M will give me errors immediately, but prime is passing fine.... @ 280x10 I still get SPI errors. I haven't tested at stock settings, but I think they will give me errors on SPI too....Any ideas here? Before my 4400 was passing SPI 1M and 32M but not passing prime...it's the opposite right now. (I deleted all the files in the spi directory and all that good stuff...no luck). My RAM passed 25 passes of Memtest last evening @ 300Mhz 3.2vdimm...(active cooling). I have ram at 1:1 280Mhz 3-3-3-8 right now...so it's good. SPI is acting up on this opty.....help a brother out.. :)
11-02-2005, 05:52 AM
k00lance

do they accept.. return on an opened box cpu..?
I didn't know
11-02-2005, 05:55 AM
Highland3r

Delete the cache files from the PI DIR and see if that helps :)

Nice clocks though, you'd be mad to return it, just get the cost difference refunded ;)

<edit> Bah, didn't read the first post properly.... </edit>
11-02-2005, 06:16 AM
cyberexia

Yea, I did delete all the files from the directory, i even downloaded a fresh copy of super pi and it gave me errors still.....hmm
Still need suggestions on that :(
11-02-2005, 06:57 AM
SoF

every memcontroller is different so you will have to search for new values for your ram!
my OCZ did 273MHZ @3-4-3-6-2-2-2-2 1T on my NC but to get it stable on the venice for OCCT and Prime I need 3-4-4-8-4-3-2-3 1 T now.

i think that's it :)
11-02-2005, 07:34 AM
demonR6

So let me get this straight.. you order a 175 from Monarch. You get the processor and open the package, noticing it clearly says on the box it is a 170 and the looking at the processor and the invoice is incorrect. You get pissed off and plan to call them and give them a piece of your mind as you feel you were unjustly overcharged since the next day they lowered the price and sent the wrong porcessor to boot. Then you proceed to open the box, install the processor and use it? Do you see where I am headed here?
You are aware that a lot of these companies have reps that troll the forums?
11-02-2005, 08:15 AM
cyberexia

demonR6, sure...if you are one of them, COOL...I've already got it RMAed ;)

http://dpgjr.mstooling.com/opty170/opty170prime.jpg
Enjoy
11-02-2005, 08:25 AM
ahmad

:slobber:
11-02-2005, 08:27 AM
eva2000

hmmm once opened the box they're not going to accept return ?
11-02-2005, 08:42 AM
cyberexia

I just got off the phone with them..I have the RMA number and I'm returning it on Friday. Geez guys.

BTW, I'm at 2.85Ghz @ 1.5v priming right now...
11-02-2005, 08:46 AM
babyelf

lol sell it dude
11-02-2005, 08:55 AM
typer77

this looks better than most 4400+ X2 already, doesn't it?
11-02-2005, 12:08 PM
Repoman

Why the hell would you return that, it's doing amazing :slobber: If the new one isn't that good you'll be kicking yourself in the face

Just get the difference refunded..
11-02-2005, 12:15 PM
mtb856

So what happens if the 175 doesn't clock as well as this cpu?
11-02-2005, 12:19 PM
njkid32

I say keep it and get them to refund the difference!
11-02-2005, 12:29 PM
cyberexia

I can't get it stable at 2.8Ghz. SPI won't complete 1M!
I'm still getting BSOD when running 3D Mark.
I think my mobo is bad somehow. I don't know what's up with that...
I checked both of my RAM sticks with memtest86 (passed 7 times complete test w/o errors @ 300mhz 3.1vdimm).....I can't figure out this SPI thing....@ stock settings across the board it will complete 1M sometimes....Other times it won't.
11-02-2005, 12:33 PM
njkid32

Well first of all what are your ram settings? I have had a huge struggle with ram on my 146. I doesnt like dividers and it only likes the 10x multi. So play around with diff muli's and dividers. What works in memtest may not work in windows....
11-02-2005, 01:49 PM
cyberexia

Well I've been using the 9x multi with my 4400...and I've been using the 10x multi with the Opty so far...I guess I'll try out the 9x multi and see what happens :)
be back later with that
11-02-2005, 01:53 PM
PytonOrm

:confused:

why are your cpu-z dosent says opteron logo ??? and stepping when you have newest cpu-z
11-02-2005, 02:04 PM
cyberexia

K, I tried 310x9 w/ 9:10 divider and PI 1M still gives error.
I tried 250x9 w/ 1:1 and PI 1M gives error.
I don't know what it is....... :( :(

I put my 4400 back in and SPI fails 1M with that too....

WHAT HAPPENED HERE?
11-02-2005, 02:06 PM
njkid32

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberexia

K, I tried 310x9 w/ 9:10 divider and PI 1M still gives error.
I tried 250x9 w/ 1:1 and PI 1M gives error.
I don't know what it is....... :( :(

I put my 4400 back in and SPI fails 1M with that too....

WHAT HAPPENED HERE?

Did you clear out the spi files? Delete all the files but the exe and the help file and try again.
11-02-2005, 02:11 PM
cyberexia

uh oh...I think I know what happened here....I noticed that no matter what I set my CPU to...windows will not boot unless RAM vdimm is 3.1 or higher.
I ran memtest w/ ram @ 300mhz @ 3.1v for a while and it failed on test #8 741 times on pass 14. So, I bumped voltage to 3.2v and it passed test #8 with flying colors...since then all this has been happening. I've ran memtest86 for 20 passes @ 3.1v @ 280mhz and it passed fine. However I'm having all these other issues I've been mentioning. Not being able to boot windows without 3.1vdimm....and SPI failing...C'mon experts..what happened here?
11-02-2005, 02:13 PM
cyberexia

Quote:

Originally Posted by njkid32

Did you clear out the spi files? Delete all the files but the exe and the help file and try again.

If you read up, you'll notice that yes, i did do that
11-02-2005, 02:14 PM
njkid32

oops sorry I missed that..
11-02-2005, 02:58 PM
situman

Mobo dying? Known to happen. Or something's wrong with your memory since you have to RAISE volts for it to be stable.
11-02-2005, 03:06 PM
cyberexia

i think it's the motherboard...this thing is acting extremely weird...freezing while in bios at stock settings...booting when it wants to. i need to get a new mobo and see.
11-02-2005, 03:07 PM
perry_78

Not sure about Monarch but in Denmark most stores accept open box returns provided the stock HSF has not been used ;)
11-02-2005, 03:16 PM
mnewxcv

psu maybe..id check the rails.
11-02-2005, 04:06 PM
fareastgq

if I were u I'd take the difference and keep the chip, u will most likely do no better. my 175 was the same stepping.
11-03-2005, 12:09 AM
cyberexia

I tried my 4400 and it's giving me the same problems. I tried the memory at stock settings 200mhz 3-3-3-8 and it passed SPI. I tried @ 280mhz 3-3-3-8 and it passed occasionally. I really believe it's my motherboard. I'm having trouble with my SLI as well, it doesn't want to pass 3D mark, when before it was passing fine. I just think my motherboard has died or is dying. I've ordered a DFI NF4 SLI-DR board and I'll test everything out when that gets here. Also, my OCZ powerstream 520W should be back in a week or so, that will be a plus as well. I've memtested my RAM to death and there are no errors in memtest. The only other thing I haven't tried is reformatting the HDD and reinstalling windows. I kept getting Errors when trying to boot windows about my Kernal.dll file or something was missing, please reinstall to continue ...then I got nv4disp.dll BSOD errors, memory management BSOD error, IRQ_NOT_LESS_THAN_EQUAL error, DRIVER_SOMETHING SOMETHING error. Just all kinds of weird stuff....And then while I was in the bios (it was at stock settings) it just froze...that happened 2 or 3 times out of no where. Then the chipset temperature began to rize a little bit above the norm...as it has been constant around 30-35C now it's around 38-43C.
I honestly think the mobo is crapping out, and so the overvoltages w/ ram/chipset/cpu/etc etc have seized my poor MOBO and I'm getting a new one. RAM works in another computer just fine, however I can't overclock it in that one, b/c it's a crappy comp with no overclocking abilities...lol
Well, stay tuned...be back in a few weeks on this i guess
11-03-2005, 12:44 PM
audial

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberexia

I tried my 4400 and it's giving me the same problems. I tried the memory at stock settings 200mhz 3-3-3-8 and it passed SPI. I tried @ 280mhz 3-3-3-8 and it passed occasionally. I really believe it's my motherboard. I'm having trouble with my SLI as well, it doesn't want to pass 3D mark, when before it was passing fine. I just think my motherboard has died or is dying. I've ordered a DFI NF4 SLI-DR board and I'll test everything out when that gets here. Also, my OCZ powerstream 520W should be back in a week or so, that will be a plus as well. I've memtested my RAM to death and there are no errors in memtest. The only other thing I haven't tried is reformatting the HDD and reinstalling windows. I kept getting Errors when trying to boot windows about my Kernal.dll file or something was missing, please reinstall to continue ...then I got nv4disp.dll BSOD errors, memory management BSOD error, IRQ_NOT_LESS_THAN_EQUAL error, DRIVER_SOMETHING SOMETHING error. Just all kinds of weird stuff....And then while I was in the bios (it was at stock settings) it just froze...that happened 2 or 3 times out of no where. Then the chipset temperature began to rize a little bit above the norm...as it has been constant around 30-35C now it's around 38-43C.
I honestly think the mobo is crapping out, and so the overvoltages w/ ram/chipset/cpu/etc etc have seized my poor MOBO and I'm getting a new one. RAM works in another computer just fine, however I can't overclock it in that one, b/c it's a crappy comp with no overclocking abilities...lol
Well, stay tuned...be back in a few weeks on this i guess

Serves you right for opening a product you know you shouldn't be using and causing price increases for everyone else. I hope the new cpu fails to live up to your expectations :p:
11-03-2005, 01:43 PM
njkid32

Quote:

Originally Posted by audial

Serves you right for opening a product you know you shouldn't be using and causing price increases for everyone else. I hope the new cpu fails to live up to your expectations :p:

Now that wasnt a nice thing to say!

@cyberexia do you have another mobo to try or a friends comp to put the cpu and ram into?
11-03-2005, 01:48 PM
Vapor

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberexia

demonR6, sure...if you are one of them, COOL...I've already got it RMAed ;)

http://dpgjr.mstooling.com/opty170/opty170prime.jpg
Enjoy

WTF is up with the second PRIME? Started after the first one finishes and only run for 19 seconds? ....explain :slapass:

And can we please have some shots of it RUNNING in dual prime at 2.8GHz? I flat out don't trust the results you've shown so far.

ALSO....why does the second one have a lateral scroll bar?

ALSO2....why is there a white line above the lateral scroll bar in the second one? Certainly JPEG artifacting *can't* do that. And why isn't the one on the right scrolled down all the way?
11-03-2005, 02:04 PM
longshot

Wow I just bought a 170 today, I paid $387 for Retail box and hope I get similar results with mine.
11-03-2005, 02:42 PM
cyberexia

vapor, damn bro..
b/c i stopped 2nd prime and started it again running large ftts...as I forgot to take the screen shot first...so i just scrolled it up to show you the place where i stopped it.
if you notice prime 1 ran for about 27 seconds longer...(took about 8 seconds to start the other test)
I don't know what white lines you're talking about, and quite frankly if you don't believe it, i don't care..
11-03-2005, 02:48 PM
Vapor

Can we please have shots of it in action? And you should have said that in the first post.

And you're right, it doesn't matter what I think of whether or not it's real....but at least make an attempt to show real proof.
11-03-2005, 03:12 PM
cyberexia

nope, cuz i sent it back already...like i said, (DON'T CARE.. :)) But if you guys don't want me to say anything then fine..i won't show ANY of the results and you can just wait longer or buy one yourself and test it....don't critize me for giving you something i don't have to...why would i waste my time with a lie..c'mon man.
11-03-2005, 04:16 PM
makatee

I really don't want to step in and do some sort of stupid mediating, but cyberexia, all he is trying to say is it does look kinda funny and it would be nice if you'd show some kind of verifiable and trusted results. I think everyone here does appreciate the information on the clocking of those chips... ( I certainly do, I want an Opteron soon :D ) Anyways, this forum is great and I don't want you to think anyone here is necessarily attacking you. I await your results with the new chip :toast:
11-03-2005, 05:11 PM
flesheatinvirus

I agree we need results of that 170,we feed on them.
11-03-2005, 05:56 PM
Repoman

BTW what was the full stepping on that chip?

From what I've gathered MPMW doesn't seem to do as well as RPMW or SPMW
11-03-2005, 09:09 PM
ozzimark

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vapor

WTF is up with the second PRIME? Started after the first one finishes and only run for 19 seconds? ....explain :slapass:

And can we please have some shots of it RUNNING in dual prime at 2.8GHz? I flat out don't trust the results you've shown so far.

ALSO....why does the second one have a lateral scroll bar?

ALSO2....why is there a white line above the lateral scroll bar in the second one? Certainly JPEG artifacting *can't* do that. And why isn't the one on the right scrolled down all the way?

my guess is he accidentally hit start on the 2nd one, thus why we see 19s and there's text underneath where he's showing ;)
11-10-2005, 04:20 PM
longshot

I got my 170 installed in my SN25P and am 100% prime stable for 24hours at 2.7ghz 1.4v on the core and my max temp over those 24 hours was 61c

Not bad at all in my opinion considering how quiet the machine is. This chip kills my 4400+ I sold for more than I paid for this chip!

CCBWE0530TPMW Stepping

CPUZ Verified
11-10-2005, 04:24 PM
Ender17

Quote:

Originally Posted by longshot

I got my 170 installed in my SN25P and am 100% prime stable for 24hours at 2.7ghz 1.4v on the core and my max temp over those 24 hours was 61c

Not bad at all in my opinion considering how quiet the machine is. This chip kills my 4400+ I sold for more than I paid for this chip!

what stepping?
11-10-2005, 04:26 PM
longshot

Ccbwe
11-10-2005, 04:51 PM
phadeout

CCBWE "what"
list the rest of it if you can...
11-10-2005, 05:04 PM
longshot

Ccbwe0530tpmw