I noticed these have now hit retail in the UK, has anyone had a decent play with one of these yet?
I'm particularly interested htt speeds both 1:1 and using a divider....
TIA
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I noticed these have now hit retail in the UK, has anyone had a decent play with one of these yet?
I'm particularly interested htt speeds both 1:1 and using a divider....
TIA
you mean its actually on sale physically IN THE STORES?
Yeah ebuyer have had them in stock since friday
Get one and be the guinea pig for the rest of us? :hrhr:
Lol actually i feel strangely tempted to do that...watch this space :eek:
Komplett.* has it, 6 left, I just ordered one, probably have it by Wednesday Morning :)
/DJ
Some days before the CF-DR started selling at the egg, someone ordered one to ebuyer, it was "already in stock", i dont remember the name... He received a DFI nf4 ultra-d :stick: ...
I hope this isn't the same thing..
hmm wonder when they would hit the US market
is this that red and white grouper board ?
Yeah that's the one
lol yeah someone get this board .. im still trying to decide whether to go over to crossfire or not .. :confused:
Komplett is quite reliable in my expirience, I doubt mis-shipping would happen :)
/DJ
Cant wait to see how it works
Seen it reviewed here if that helps ;)
Most important thing is.......has anyone seen the mobo physically and inspected what Caps the are using. If they are still using Teapo Caps for CPU regulation there's no way I am touching it then. Goin down tomoro to do a personal inspection in one of our retail outlets....... :p:
I have Good News. I picked up a Grouper today after inspecting it. Sapphire have changed the Caps as promised. The Retail Grouper has only Sanyo and Nichicon caps on board :woot:
Time to rejoice :toast:
looking forward to your adventures... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Afterburner
I intend to do a basic review with pics by tomoro Nite....... :)
Great :)
:woot: now all we need is a retailer in the US to get em in stock
Great news finally, waiting in anticipation for your results.
how about some initial results?
I got mine too today :D, but I am extremly dead tired and going to bed.
So tomorrow during the day. I picked up a Venice 3000+ for testing too, it was week 33 btw.
Goodnight people!
/tease
what the heck man, US can't get groupers or opertons before uk side, boggle...
Guys, what is the price tag?
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are any of the ati chipset mb's coming with the ULi 1965 chipsets?
edit: i thought this mobo didn't have crossfire capabilities and was single vga card only?
abit is offering a uli southbridge crossfire boardQuote:
Originally Posted by asianguy80
abit is still no where to be seen.
See told ya :)
Remember to enable PLL High speed mode in the Hypertransport area in the CMOS for high HTT overclocking. ;)
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Originally Posted by Afterburner
I'm really happy it turned out this way grayskull, this board looks great, has great build quality, and the mosfets will be cooled very well, that's one thing I didnt like about dfi's. guess I'll have to pick up a pa120.3 now too, hehe
edit : is it a 6 layer board?
:D Xtreme pics ?
yes it's 6 layer
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Originally Posted by fareastgq
The cost to me was 174$ + Tax.
It does seem like a real nice board.
Grayskull, will the board work with a ATX-20 PSU, or do I need a ATX24 ?
/DJ
grayskull, you know of any US sellers yet? ive yet to be able to find any. and im thinking of this board over the DFI flavor.
the tide is turning :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by fareastgq
20 pin is ok.
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Originally Posted by DJ_Datte
Sorry I have details on the retailers. I will ask Sapphire.
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Originally Posted by tennvols_69
what happened to the guy taht said he was gonna post up results? Its a bad omen that hes MIA.
yes please , ive gotten my $$ and am not gonna use crossfire ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Grayskull
Waiting patiently for some updates on this board. Has this mobo penciled in for my jump from my Dothan to a X2.
where are you ppl getting this board , ive been making phone calls all over the world with no luck?
@ Grayskull,
Abit has seemed to turn to ati after the nforce 2 controversy and came late with nf3 and nf4 after reconciling with nvidia.
Have you any comments on the board they are turning out? It almost looks like they went with ati's reference design however it seems they have implemented the ULi southbridge to possibly get around the performance issues of sata II and USB that ati's lacked slightly in.
My only first impression of the board is they're heatpipe implemention is poorly applied as it was with the an8 ultra. Had they installed a fan on the actual heatsink end of the heatpipes it would be more effective although i think they were going for the fanless/quiet approach.
Also any comments on what they used for capacitors? Usually they use sanyo oscon and rubycon caps.
Am here :p: We have to work here dude ;) I am having "some problems" gettin the mobo to clock at all and it does seem to have reboot issues. Its either Bios or my Settings (some xtreme options available) or I may have a dud. I will be investigating further tonite. I bought it for SGD$315 for those curious :)Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
@ Grayskull @ Tony....your assistance will be extremely appreciated.
Have taken some close ups......comin in approximately 6 hrs after I am done @ work :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Supertim0r
http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.asp?sku=312895&cks=PRLQuote:
Originally Posted by Kenetixx
Currently 4 boards in stock.
Bro, wanna try flashing your bios to this one ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Afterburner
http://www.sapphiretech.com/en/driverfiles/44.BIN
Its on the Sapphire drivers page. Date 4 Oct 2005.
:)
can't wait to see pics
Hey thanx for the Heads Up...... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by xforce
There will be a slight delay for the pics bud.....the owner of the Cam isnt available yet so rest assured I will post them as soon as I can. Sorry bout that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Supertim0r
screenshots?Quote:
Originally Posted by Afterburner
Mine are on the way but 2 weeks away i got hold of 2 :D ---Thanks to my Sister :D
Afterburner
I will recieve my ATI built gruper any day now but there are things you need to remember.
1 it will probably not have the same bios
2 It may not have the tweaks my board has
3 It may be missing components
So until i see your board and compare it to mine its hard to say if they will clock the same.
Some things you need to remember.
1 you have to manually set LDT speed
2 drive strength and data drive do need tweaking
3 you may need more vdimm
4 Set high speed like grayskull mentioned
5 Start a fresh and do not thing the same settings that work on the DFI work on this.
2 of them huh .. hmmmm :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Kenetixx
Noted Tony thanx....... :) I will get pics up ASAP. I am waiting jus like everyone else for the Cam owner. I have never used DFI before except for the Lanparty 875P-T and till now the Abit AN8 Ultra so the Bios is pretty much a shock to me though I have seen the mad Bioses of the DFI mobos. I was with an experienced DFI Ultra-D user when I was tryin Grouper out though. The Grouper is however in a class of its own :p:
No camera needed for screenshots :fact:
Bring 'em on mate :stick:
HaHa.....that I know :p: I tested the mobo at my buddy's place + had stuff to attend to + its 3am here already so......patience my friend ;)
its Alive!
It took me 5 tries to figure out why the comp bluescreened while "Starting Windows" in the WinXP textmode installation. Windows dont play well with the USB drivers.
When I connected a real cdrom, it installed flawlessly :)
Needed chipset drivers, found them on the cd that came with. None on the ATI webpage tho ?
Right now I am running it at 260.9 x 9 = 2347 MHz, on a Venice 3000 week 33.
/DJ
what memory/ frequency/ timings? a64 tweaker work?
Not there yet. I'll take a A64 tweak screenshot for ya later, just so you can see the current settings.
/DJ
cool thanks, take your time and have fun with it!
Heres the clockgen....
set it with ICS 951446.....http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...33#post1094033
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/5...shot0211ka.jpg
Thanks, Franck :toast:
wow I love this board ! :toast:
can't wait till they are availabe here
nice board m8 :clap:
Thumps up broQuote:
Originally Posted by Afterburner
Me n' phenglee saw it just now @ Hardwareplace
Jaw dropped
Beautiful board
Have fun ;)
If this board performs as well as it looks it shall be mine. I just LOVE the Canadian color scheme on it :D.
dumo where you get your board at? that things sexy!
Thanx will do......after some of the upcoming festivals next week :DQuote:
Originally Posted by dfx
Hmmm, so none of the owners is gonna OC this beast and post screenshots :stick:
Seems like DJ_Datte had a 4 days night.
Will this board be any better than dfi rdx200 / expert¿
Btw. the board is in stock at www.overclockers.co.uk
When will they release an onboard video version with DVI connector.
1st one wins... battle between NV 6150 and RD480 and who coughs up DVI first wins the HTPC war.
c'mon, where are the OC results? We all know how anand and xbit did, but we need the general publics consensus!
US release needed now. All your teasing is killing me.
I've seen the crossfire version running @ the hardware.info dagen in the Netherlands.
It looks very nice and it ran stable with 2 X850XT's in crossfire. Scored 103xx in 3DMark05 with a 3500+. DFI's crossfire board did 9800 3DMarks with a 4000+ for example ;) (same graka's, not sure about the drivers though)
They didn't allow me to overclock it but I did have a look in the bios :)
I think the following 3 options are very interesting:
Memory DQ Drive Strength
DRAM Drive Strength
DDR Memory Drive Strength
Is it possible that one of these settings will help to fix the coldbug ?(or atleast reduce it)
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/1045/sapphire1zu.gif
(sorry for the bad quality of the pic, phonecam and only paint avaible at my system makes it like this)
what's MTRR mapping?? I've never seen that in a DFI before, or anywhere else.
Looks like a very nice BIOS though, well layed out.
Some more pics of the BIOS
http://img433.imageshack.us/img433/8021/19eb.gif
http://img433.imageshack.us/img433/9387/35ni.gif
http://img433.imageshack.us/img433/9934/42ia.gif
The last one is really bad, i know ;) I don't have a pic without the PLL calibration popup
Above the CPU/HT Reference clk you can find the usual CPU Fid Control, CPU Vid Control and CPU VID Offset settings.
vcore up to 2.15v
vdimm up to 4v
The board:
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/8069/51er.jpg
I bet the ones who have the board are having a hard time to make it perform.Quote:
Originally Posted by don_vercetti
hey SynGroW that's a VERY nice board! I want one heel graag! :D
Hehe, it should be avaible in NL in about 3 weeks according to the Sapphire representative for ~200eQuote:
Originally Posted by biohead
Well i still wish they would post about it. People did about the RDX200, after all.Quote:
Originally Posted by LowRun
Just a quick question, whats the differnce between this lovely motherboard and this one:
http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?sku=307851&cks=PRL
I'm just thinking that the first board is this week only on OCUK at £135, but the second on Komplett is only £56. What extra am I getting for the extra £80 or so? I can see the difference with the pci and pci-ex slot number and the extra S-ata ports, but not much else.
Thanks.
Nick
I will admit I am having a hard time making it fetch high HTT.
The cpu isnt the limiting factor I belive. Max sofar I've reached is
282 HTT, x 9 2538 MHz, CPU is at 27 Deg with watercooling.
Tell me what you need, and I'll provide it tomorrow, to see if we can get it up higher.
I am running my memory at 100 FSB 2:1 Divider, so its around 144 MHz when the FSB is at 282.
I think the board has lots of potential, but the BIOS is just *mean* =)
I am btw running the 44.Bin bios thats on Saphs web.
/DJ
It seems a very nice board to me. This is my first attempt with A64 overclocking but it has been made very easy so far. Got an Opteron 144 CABYE 0536 running at 295HTT with the memory at 166Mhz I think. Crashed at 300HTT after a few seconds of Prime but have run for a couple of hours at 195. Have not had time to really play and want to get it watercooled before I crank it up. First impressions are very good but I don’t have anything to compare it to so my opinions can be dismissed as worthless :p:
Can an owner of the Sapphire Pure Motherboards say to me highly the Opteron 144 on Board runs and is recognized properly?
Sushi
195htt??Quote:
Originally Posted by ironsid3
as in less than 200mhz HTT?
A few questions about the two Sapphire boards;
on the SLI, why are the PCI slots right next to the PCI-E's when there's all that space that's devoted to the logo? just shift everything down and give a slot of clearance for the 2nd video card
and with the single VGA board, why are the NB and SB epoxied on [my guess as the mounting holes are empty], arnt the holes there for a reason? and the mosfet cooling looks like it misses quite a few fetts
Yeah it's been in stock for quite a while now at overclock.co.uk and they are £6 cheaper than overclocker's normal price. Makes a change that us brits get something in stock and some price competition.Quote:
Originally Posted by mag|c
Ummm yes but no.Quote:
Originally Posted by don_vercetti
I meant 295htt. Like I said, all this A64 stuff is a bit new to me...lol :D
and my Opteron 144 runs fine on it Sushi.
ok phew. A board that can't run at 200HTT is a board not worth even mentioning around these parts.
I remember when i was new to A64..its a lovely platform to be new too.
Trying setting the PLL High Speed mode to "enabled" for anything over 250 MHz HTT. In high speed mode, the chipset will clear 300 MHz without even breaking a sweat. But getting your memory to run that fast will depend on many other things :)
Do not play with the PLL stability calibration.
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Originally Posted by SynGroW
Is the clearing 300HTT something that is definate, something anyone has seen done yet? I'm after a new toy to play with and this seems the ideal item, but need to make sure it's going to let me run at 300HTT or beyond.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grayskull
Thanks
Nick
EDIT: Just noticed your ATI Support tag, so I assume you know whats what :) Can you comment on the question I posted further up this page regarding the differenced betweek the 2 boards.
It's been cleared by everyone using the board. Admittedly, these are all reviewers but it shouldn't be an issue.
Dammit, when are these coming to America? :(
I haven't seen the board in the link in person and can't tell much from such a small picture. It doesn't look like a Grouper reference board from what I can tell might have some of the features...for example I think I see a 4 phase CPU supply and some pretty beefy looking inductors near the memory sockets but it's too blurry when I blow the picture up.
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Originally Posted by Nem
NIIIIIIIICE. Now come to the US, Mr. PURE Innovation, PLEASE :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Afterburner
300HTT is no problem.
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Originally Posted by Nem
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Originally Posted by DJ_Datte
Hey, thanks for the input DJ, not trying to have you doing this or that but surely appreciate to know whats been working and what didn't for you, so please keep it comin' and have a nice play :toast:
Cheaper here @ £129.98 inc VATQuote:
Originally Posted by Nitestorm
They have 35 in stock, I need CF version of this board.Quote:
Originally Posted by split
None yet in Can or USA ??