So i need cooler for my P4C800-E Deluxe and Asus CT-479 system. Is it possible to install that TT Big Typhoon or Zalman CNPS9500LED to this system? Those seems to be the best coolers on market these days aren't they?
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So i need cooler for my P4C800-E Deluxe and Asus CT-479 system. Is it possible to install that TT Big Typhoon or Zalman CNPS9500LED to this system? Those seems to be the best coolers on market these days aren't they?
you will have to make something so you can clear the ct-479 for the BT, it obstructs 2 of the mounting holes.
I think the 9500 uses the same mounting as the 7x00 series, so that should mount easily.
the BT is better than the 9500, but i dont think you will see much difference on a dothan.
So i think im gonna buy Antec Sonata II, and for that i think 9500 looks better. It would be nice if someone makes it clear, is it really possible to install that 9500 there, with that adapter?
And does that even fit on Sonata?
I have installed a thermalright si-97 with the mounting hardware from the 7700cu without modding the ct-479.I have also made an xp-120 fit with some modds to the ct-479 and the xp-120.There is only 1C diff between the two and the xp-120 is quieter.
xp-120 760@2880mhz 1.6Vcore dualprime95 47C.
Even though its not a dual core or HT cpu there are two diff cpu test and it will sometimes pass on the regular p95 but when 2 tests are running one sometimes still fails.
It would be nice, if no any mods required for that. So that's why it would be nice to know, if someone has installed 9500 to Dothan with CT-479...
I think temperature will grow after voltage increased and overclocking, so that's why it's not bad to use good cooler. Even it could be quiter then too...
Apparently these are very good for even mobile cpus. Why are they better than most heatsinks out thier ? They use the "Bolt Thru" method much more stable and better contact with the CPU.
They are extremely RARE now as Thermalright stopped making them i did however see 1 on ebay. ITs full copper and better than XP-90 XP-90C Si-120. Highly recommended by DFI street also.
If i use watercool. :) ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Vitality
Well i bought Zalman CNPS7700-Cu and that did fit nicely. It's good enough. With that, there was nothing to mod, to install it. Nice!
Alright, I'd like to revive this thread with a few questions: is there anything (aircooling wise) that's better than the 7700/C77 that will just install?
Is there a way to put a faster fan in the 7700?
How difficult/expensive would it be to mod and to obtain the parts to mod a BT for Dothan use? Would there be much of a gain with Dothan's low heat output (~45-50W very well OC'd)?
Is there anything as easy to install as the 7700/C77 that costs less and still provides great performance?
Anybody have anything regarding my questions?
It's not impossible to change the fan but it needs a bit of modding skills. Also i don't know what will be the performance gains having in mind the fact that dothan isn't a prescott... ;)
In my opinion get a 7700Cu (this was my previous cooler) and u'll get all the performance u'll need. Very nice cooler with very good sound level! :up:
Well, here's the thing, I don't care about noise. I've also started to consider the 9500 as it's really not that much more--would that be moddable at all? (I'd probably just ADD a fan to that)
I'm simply looking for the best moderately priced way to cool a Dothan without a crapload of modding to mount it.
Alright, new question: how much better would a 9500 be on a Dothan? More than 3C?
I have the 9500 fitted on the P4C800-E, and a CT-479 handy. It won't fit striaght on, but requires very little clearance work to get it to fit...
I have one of these in a box somewhere, I doubt it'd be as good as the heatpiped 9500 though...Quote:
Originally Posted by irfs
....care to elaborate? I'm almost 95% sure I'm gonna go the 9500 route and want to know what I'm getting myself into.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stocky
Like what does it need? New screws?
Just a little bit of filing if I remmeber right...
What I'll do is, lay it over in position and take a photo so you can see what needs to be done. Give me a few hours :)
Much appreciated m8 :up:
Okay, I remembered right. In the image below you can see the area which has been circled in red. This is where the power plug and FSB pins are located.
http://www.killsound.com/forum/ct-479500.jpg
There are three viable options which I can see to get the 9500 fittings to work:
1: Bend FSB and Power plug slightly to make way for the aluminium fitting bar,
2: File the bar slightly
3: Remove the plugs and solder connections.
The overlap is very slight only 1-2mm tops, I think they could be bent. I can't do that on mine to show you as I may well have to RMA it soon - as I think it may be faulty.
It should prove to be an excellent Dothan/ Sonoma cooling option :)
Awesome....the CT-479 I'm getting has the plugs removed and soldered so I guess I won't need to do any modding :banana:
(as simple as it was)
Thanks again!
No probs! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
That's quite lucky, it's a good mod to do to the board. I haven't managed to get mine running yet, I either have a dead CT-479 or dead 770 :eek:
I wonder what Intels RMA is like...
doesnt the ct-479 make the dothan be a bit higher than a normal p4? If that is so, wouldnt you need to raise the heatsink?
Indeed it does. The solution is to not tighten the screws all the way down, or you will squash the Dothan! Only tighten down as far as: 'total screw length' - 'CT-479&CPU Height'.
how much higher is the ct-479 + dothan comination then a normal p4? I cant seem to find it anywhere, not even in the dothan stickies.
It appears to add slightly under 10mm (9.5mm?) to the height when plugged in. I don't have my verniers handy so can not be any more accurate than that...
I think theres no need to use any better cooler for dothan than 7700Cu. Even 7000A-Cu could be enough. Cause Dothan won't heat so much, theres actually no sence to use any better cooler so far. I did understood that, after i installed 7700Cu. It's nice that now it won't heat so much, but at least with 1.6v there was no oc:ing difference, i think. :O Only lower temperatures, wich is very welcome anyway.
Maybe i could get some advantage with that cooler, if i try with bigger vcore, but i think it's unfavourable... I will someday try it still, when i get better memories.
I just wonder is it worthwhile to use vcore over 1.6?
Macci has just fitted a 9500 in this thread: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...72#post1121972
So you can see it can be made to fit, and DOES improve the clock speeds :)
(Also looks great :D)
My Dothan 750 has a Pentium 4 heatspreader on top lapped good. :cool: Since this raises the total height of Dothan+CT-479 would I be able to fit a Zalman 9500 without mods?
In general, has anybody with a Dothan+heatspreader on top managed to fit any other coolers except those in the Dothan stickies?
Regards :banana:
bolt thruQuote:
Originally Posted by irfs
dothan
not the most co-operative pair
...
anyways
The Coolermaster Aquagate, isn't exactly air, but priced around the same and easy to mount with the zalman mounts.
Just to let you know that I have just fitted a Zalman CNPS9500-LED cooler to my P4C800-E Dlx and it required only a few mods:
- Soldering of the CT-479 power connection directly to the adapter (as it snags the heatsink support bracket).
- Removing the CT-479 jumpers. I now run with no jumpers set. (This may or make not be required - I already had it done).
- Hack-sawing the supplied Zalman bolts in half (at standard length you'll be penetrating the adapter before you get good tension on the heatsink!)
- A CPU die shim made of four squares of Paxmate sound deadening material. (Highly recommended to avoid die damage)
With the above mods, the cooler will fit no problems using the standard P4 retention bracket.
Load temps have gone from 60 C to 43 C at 1.456v (real). Also, because the fan exhausts the hot air directly towards the case exhaust fans - case temps have gone down from 30 C to 25 C (21 C ambient).
Throttling the fan speed down to 45% with Speedfan when the temp is under 42 C yields a very quiet fan. Make no mistake though, at 100% this cooler is loud! However with Speedfan, this is only needed while hammering the CPU.
This cooler is so good that it can even run passively (fan stopped) for 40 C idle and 55 C load, at least with my case (Thermaltake Xaser III).
What is very important with these coolers (which aren't natively meant to fit the CT-479) is that you get good contact with the die. To test this, fit the cooler and boot the machine into the bios and use the hardware monitoring feature to check your temp. If it is over 50 deg, shutdown the machine immediately and reseat. If it is nice and low gently rock and hold the cooler in all four side directions (N, S, E, W). If any of these directions yields a better temperature, you haven't got good contact yet. You can also test a fifth direction by pushing the cooler directly down on to the socket, again, this should not yield better temperatures if you already have a good contact.
System spec:
P4C800-E Dlx (with 1023 bios) + CT-479 + Dothan 730 @ 2.6Ghz w/ Zalman CNPS9500-LED cooler
2GB Corsair XMS TWINX CAS3.0 in 4 x 512 DIMMS
HIS X850XT PE /w IceQ cooling @ stock
36GB Raptor main drive + 200GB Samsung Spinpoint store
Thermaltake Xaser III
Hmm don't know if you still want to know how to replace the fan but here's a guide for you;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
http://forums.silentpcreview.com/vie...=212717#212717
Hope it works for you:woot:
i have a TT Sonic Tower+120 Fan@Sandwich on my 740 Dothan. It fits without any mods with S478 mounting kit.
Performance is amazing. 2815MHz@1,7V with <40°C load. :banana:
Five-Seven could you post some pics? I'm really interested! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Five-Seven
np. Here are some pics. Hope, you can recognize something :)
http://img.techpowerup.org/051216/ST-2.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/051216/ST-3.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/051216/ST-1.jpg
Ah, very nice! Did you lap the bottom of the Sonic Tower before putting it on the Dothan? I see you've bended the power connector a bit. Overall all seems nice! Now to get my ST and get busy :cool:
i didn't lap the bottom. yeah bend the power connector a bit, but that should be no problem.