Super Pi: Opteron 144 CABYE 0536 GPMW vs FX-57 CABCE 0516 WPMW

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10-18-2005, 09:13 PM
eva2000

Super Pi: Opteron 144 CABYE 0536 GPMW vs FX-57 CABCE 0516 WPMW

Since dinos and a few folks are getting slower super pi times with opteron that other san diego cpus thought I'd start this thread with comparisons between my FX-57 and Opteron 144.

FX-57 with 510-2FIX bios
DFI NF UT SLI-DR
510W PC Powercooling SLI

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...erpi-1m_tn.jpg

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...erpi-8m_tn.jpg

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...rpi-32m_tn.jpg

Opteron 144 with 623-2BTA bios
DFI NF UT SLI-DR
650W Silverstone SLI

exact same timings as FX-57
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...erpi-1m_tn.jpg

need to loosen Trc from 7 to 9 for 8M

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...erpi-8m_tn.jpg

need to loosen Trc from 7 to 9 and Twr from 2 to 3 for 32M run

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...i-32m_2_tn.jpg

So you can see there isn't so much of difference between Opteron and san diegos as seen by some folks.... maybe they just have some settings/OS issues or hdd issues causing slower 8-32M runs ?

Update Oct 20, 2005
Swapped to 2x 512MB Patriot PC3200XBL TCCD memory, this clocked higher and tighter than my above Gskill PC4400LE (309-312mhz 2.5-4-3-6 vs 301mhz 2.5-4-3-6) on FX-57. So thought i'd tried this ram on Opteron 144. It does pretty well except Dynamic Idle Cycle counter needs disabling on Opteron 144, but FX-57 allowed me to keep it enabled. Disabled i lost some performance as seen below:

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...erpi-1m_tn.jpg

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...erpi-8m_tn.jpg

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...rpi-32m_tn.jpg
10-18-2005, 10:20 PM
IvanAndreevich

What's the max for that Opteron on air? :)
10-18-2005, 10:23 PM
mucker

Nice presentation EVA, solid testing...

What bios do you recommend for Ultra-D? I am running my Win 3500, TCC5 on 704-BTa, yellow slots. I'll have a 146 here shortly. Do you think 623 would perform better? Thx....

m :)
10-18-2005, 10:26 PM
eva2000

thanks mucker, Ivan no idea on air only use water (28C ambient room temp)

this opteron's maxtcase is 59C which is 2C higher than my other opteron at 57C - see http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=1536
10-18-2005, 10:29 PM
mucker

Eva could you take a look at my last thread, I added a question, thx!
10-18-2005, 10:30 PM
eva2000

bios recommended are 510-2FIX, 623-3 official, 623-2BTA, 704-2BTA try them all and fine the best for your ram :)

orange slots are always best for me
10-18-2005, 10:37 PM
mucker

Will do, thank you. I have used all the above except for the 623-2BTA for the Winchester and settled on 704-2bta, yellow. I have always had sucecss using the -2 bioses, even though my CBBID is a complete dog. Anyway, thanks again...sorry for straying OT...
10-18-2005, 10:56 PM
Absolute_0

Thanks for testing that, the results in the Opteron thread had me wondering.
10-18-2005, 11:01 PM
k00lance

cabye 144 is very nice :D
10-18-2005, 11:12 PM
eva2000

No probs.. always a pleasure.. me loves ram and cpus :D
10-18-2005, 11:17 PM
IvanAndreevich

Man, these 144's are San Diego killers.
10-18-2005, 11:54 PM
tomati

thanks Eva2000,

really clear and interesting ,
10-19-2005, 01:07 AM
eva2000

First full set of super pi results (not fully tweaked yet will do that later) :)

Opteron 144 CABYE 0536 GPMW Water cooled
DFI NF4 UT SLI-DR R.AB0 623-2BTA Official bios
1x BFG 7800GTX 81.82 beta drivers
4x 80GB Hitachi 7K80 SATAII Raid 0
1x 250GB Maxtor Maxline Plus II PATA
Pioneer DVD Burner
Floppy drive
650W Silverstone SLI PSU

WinXP Pro SP2
NF4 6.53WHQL chipset drivers

2x 512MB Gskill PC4400LE TCCD 431 dual channel kit

@280mhz 2.5-3-3-6 7-16-2-2-1-3 at 2.85v

HTT = 312HTT
Divider = 180
VID = 1.45v
VID Special = AUTO
chipset = 1.6v
LDT = 1.3v
LDT 3x

CPC = Enabled
CAS Latency(CL) = 2.5
RAS to CAS(Trcd) = 3
Min RAS# Active time(Tras) = 6
Row Precharge Time(Trp) = 3
Row Cycle Time(Trc) = 7
Row Refresh Cycle Time(Trfc) = 16
Row to Row Delay(Trrd) = 2
Write Recovery Time(Twr) = 2
Write to Read Delay(Twtr) = 1
Read to Write Delay(Trwt) = 3
Refresh Period (Tref) = 3072
Write CAS Latency(Twcl) = N/A
DRAM Bank Interleave = Enabled
Skew = AUTO
Skew Value = 0
DRAM Drive Strength = Normal 4
DRAM Data Drive Strength = Level 1
Max Async Latency = 9ns
DDRAM Response Time = Normal
Read Preamble Time = 5.5ns
Idle Cycle Limit = 16
Dynamic Counter = Enabled
R/W Queue Bypass = 16x
Bypass Max = 7x
32 byte Granularity = Disable(8burst)

Super Pi v1.40 mod
1M (Twtr @2) = 29.188s
1M (Twtr @1) = 29.203s
8M = 5m 21.625s
32M = 25m 46.219s
10-19-2005, 01:16 AM
Dumo

Eva, I think both have the same max-T...Heres 0516 cabce....

http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/1...shot0564cx.jpg
10-19-2005, 01:22 AM
eva2000

yeah one of my opteron 144 = 57C and other opteron 144 = 59C (better oc'er! )
10-19-2005, 02:18 AM
s7e9h3n

Well, I'll throw another cpu in the mix for comparison's sake. Here's an E6 4000+ @ 2.8G on air. (I know it's a x10 mult, but that's as low as I tested it)
http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/3...801mair1ki.jpg

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/1...808mair3vl.jpg

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/4...032mair4zq.jpg
10-19-2005, 02:34 AM
eva2000

yeah Trfc and max async on that 4000+ 32M run helps :)
10-19-2005, 05:00 AM
eva2000

just completed my Opteron 144 run @2898mhz

1M = 28.312s
8M = 5m 12.687s
32M = 24m 59.610s
10-19-2005, 05:34 AM
ozzimark

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva2000

So you can see there isn't so much of difference between Opteron and san diegos as seen by some folks.... maybe they just have some settings/OS issues or hdd issues causing slower 8-32M runs ?

possible that it's only an issue with the cabne's? or are people with cabye's and cabge's having the problem too?
10-19-2005, 05:36 AM
eva2000

dinos is having issues with same CABYE 0536 GPMW i have http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=1510 but i think it's due to his loose max preamble, TRCD, DC disabled and slower hdds
10-19-2005, 07:15 AM
eva2000

Opteron 144 run @2906mhz at 1.52v

1M = 28.235S
8m = 5m 11.329s
32M = 24m 54.766s
10-19-2005, 07:39 AM
Super strokey

argh now i dont know what to do, i have a decent price ona 3800 that does 2.6 ghz stable at low volts or get one of these...
10-19-2005, 01:06 PM
xenolith

^ Ahh come on, you know you want to get one of these and join the fun. :p:
10-19-2005, 01:30 PM
mucker

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva2000

Opteron 144 run @2906mhz at 1.52v

1M = 28.235S
8m = 5m 11.329s
32M = 24m 54.766s

Very impressive for a $160 cpu :toast: Only 1106 MHz over stock :woot:
10-19-2005, 02:20 PM
Super strokey

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenolith

^ Ahh come on, you know you want to get one of these and join the fun. :p:

got the x2, might grab one of these too later next month. We shall see
10-20-2005, 03:41 AM
eva2000

updated first post with 2x 512MB Patriot PC3200XBL TCCD memory to compare :)
10-20-2005, 08:11 AM
T_M

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva2000

dinos is having issues with same CABYE 0536 GPMW i have http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=1510 but i think it's due to his loose max preamble, TRCD, DC disabled and slower hdds

He must be doing something wrong, cos no problems here as yet.
1M SuperPI at 2970 at 1.55V = 27.797s
and still going (and yes i know RAM is loose)
10-20-2005, 08:15 AM
eva2000

i think slowness dinos is reportedly getting is at >8M onwards i.e. 32M
11-09-2005, 03:08 AM
EboNova

Little OT but need help:
I don't get my Opteron 144 Cabye 0536GPMW running higher than 2100MHz. I've set the ram dividers, lowered the HT, locked AGP/PCi, and increased the FSB/volt. I get upp to 230FSB and more volt won't help. I manage to boot my computer so far that I get the windows logo loadning screen. Then it all went black. I've heard something about the sata ports on DFI NF3 are 2 locked and 2 unlocked!? Is this true? My system is a Opteron 144, DFI NF3 Ultra-D, Corsair VS 512mb Pc3200. My suspections lay on my power supply which is an Aspire 520w. So, is my power supply insufficient or is it something else that can be the problem? Sorry for lending your thread but I really need help.