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I set up 3 A7N8X Deluxe boards and one of them has Nichicon caps. The board with the Nichicon caps runs smoother (stability, no graphics artifacts/tearing) at 207 FSB than the ones with Rubycon caps. Same components, settings, cooling tried on all three boards; no mods.
A7N8X Deluxe 1.04 with Nichicon caps
A7N8X Deluxe 1.04 with Rubycon caps
Just wondering if the different brand caps are making a difference, and if anyone else had opportunity to compare what are your observations.
tia,
Scott
The Nichicon caps...tho the same rating as the Rubycon's, have always set themselves apart on ABIT boards I've owned in that the voltages were better, more stable and as you demonstrated, overly smooth especially when overclocking. They are just a higher quality item IMHO.:)
Randi:D
ยงยงยงยง! why do I always end up with the cheap stuff.
hi scott,
which one is newer? did you notice any difference of the coil placement near the fan header?
beatnic,Quote:
Originally posted by beatnic
hi scott,
which one is newer? did you notice any difference of the coil placement near the fan header?
Here are receipt dates, all boards from NewEgg
Board 1 received 11/21/02, serial # 2BZG0F0xxx, Rubycon caps. Low achiever - can't break 190.
Board 2 received 12/18/02, serial # 2CZG0F0xxx, Rubycon caps. Coil by power fan header was installed out-of-spec. Coil nearly touching/shorting onto the outermost pin of the power fan header. Power fan header unusable.
Board 3 received 12/21/02 (Saturday delivery), serial # 2CZG0B8xxx, Nichicon caps.
Appears board #2 has higher serial number than board #3. I'm assuming it came from the same NewEgg shipment as board #3. Mixed bag w/respect to cap-brand I guess.
Mine has Nichicon caps. Snr 2CZG0D2362, came with G BIOS (2002-12-06), got it 2002-12-27, store got it 2002-12-23.
Unfortunatly mine has a rken Fash chp, I can't flash anything onto it, it's being RMAd this week.
i got nichion and does 220 fsb :D
ummm.. seem that most newer boards came with Nichicon caps.. i'm getting another one from Komplett.. wish me luck (pray) :D
I've got to RMA mine to Komplett.se, so I'll get another one from there too I guess. :-)
I have Rubicons and the board runs 211 MHz
I just hit 18,150 in 3dMark2001 by cranking my Radeon up to 403/353 and BIOS 1002 at 197x11.5 1.85v Timings of 5-2-3-2, and I have the Rube Goldberg's also.
I might be able to go higher, but without a volt mod, I'm really happy with this...rubycons or nichicons. I can't even pronounce those, let alone understand their nuances.
Well, that blows that theory out of the water. Congrats on the score. :toast:
Got the Rubycons, and board runs fine at 200fsb. Does exhibit some tearing in 3D at times, but then I haven't put AS3 on my NB yet. Adding a small fan will probably help too. But windows is fine.
I've got the Nichicon caps on mine! :) I bought mine the day it was released on Newegg--whenever that was.
Btw when I looked @ my mobo, I realized that I have freakin dust all over my computer!!!!!! This is unacceptable I tell you! It's been running open-desk since I got it. I can't believe this! RARR! I need a freakin clean room!
I'm thinking that's a typo, or I'm thinking you have an 8RDA+ and you didn't realize he was asking about the A7N8X... but I'm HOPING that A: You have some kinda BIOS that let's you go to 220mhz fsb, or B: you have a software program for higher FSB.Quote:
Originally posted by mrbucket
i got nichion and does 220 fsb :D
But I have a feeling you just typo'ed.
Btw, speaking of software fsb programs, I talked w/ the guy who makes setFSB and he said he's working on an nforce2 version *weeee* :banana:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&threadid=7706 :DQuote:
Originally posted by sysfailur
I'm thinking that's a typo
my a7n8x deluxe has the rubycons and does 3d mark at 207 with a ti4600 and corsair 3500. it will run 3dmark at 211 but the flashing kills the score. here is my compare http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5560299
too bad card will only do 352/780 wish i could get the core up!
Latest BIOS allows up to 250 MHz.Quote:
Originally posted by sysfailur
I'm thinking that's a typo, or I'm thinking you have an 8RDA+ and you didn't realize he was asking about the A7N8X... but I'm HOPING that A: You have some kinda BIOS that let's you go to 220mhz fsb, or B: you have a software program for higher FSB.
But I have a feeling you just typo'ed.
Btw, speaking of software fsb programs, I talked w/ the guy who makes setFSB and he said he's working on an nforce2 version *weeee* :banana:
lol @ sys :)
Yeah yeah I missed that! Excuse me! I have been sleep deprived! I saw "new bios" in my thread and I was like "oh wee a new bios" but I didn't see "250mhz capable". :D :DQuote:
Originally posted by N8
lol @ sys :)
I got so excited I hosed my OS :P
Exactly why we need the VDD mod!Quote:
Originally posted by sysfailur
I got so excited I hosed my OS :P
If you were looking, here it is:Quote:
Originally posted by nikhsub1
Exactly why we need the VDD mod!
http://www.maximumoc.com/reviews/asusa7n8x_3.html
No that is for VCORE and VDIMM, I already did those, I/we need the VDD mod (chipset).Quote:
Originally posted by Pjotr
If you were looking, here it is:
http://www.maximumoc.com/reviews/asusa7n8x_3.html
hmm, i have rubies on my current system, only stable at 200. i have just been content after cutting the 3rd L12 to get from 185 to 200 stable. now this! i have a second i have not built yet. i looked at it and it has nich caps. ffs! hmm, debate, tear down and rebuild? so, more trial and error on this theory would be sweet.
I got rubbies, and the board has yet to turned on for the first time, im gettgin everything I need this weekend and im my Via Water Pump by Monday. :/ I will ell ya how the rubbies run, funny sys, i got mine very early the first day it was available back in Nov 12? or whatever Wed. that was. I paid 200 for it since i really wanted this baby but got 54 back form newegg when it went down in price. But now with the 250Mhz FSB :) weeee let me strap on my new MCW5000-A 2400+ @ (Sky's the limit ;) ) and let it roll with Corsair 3500 :)
Ahh so you got it before the price drop, I got it right when I saw it @ $155 ;)Quote:
Originally posted by theonetheycall
I got rubbies, and the board has yet to turned on for the first time, im gettgin everything I need this weekend and im my Via Water Pump by Monday. :/ I will ell ya how the rubbies run, funny sys, i got mine very early the first day it was available back in Nov 12? or whatever Wed. that was. I paid 200 for it since i really wanted this baby but got 54 back form newegg when it went down in price. But now with the 250Mhz FSB :) weeee let me strap on my new MCW5000-A 2400+ @ (Sky's the limit ;) ) and let it roll with Corsair 3500 :)
me too...LOL...pours a little more salt in the wound! LOLQuote:
Ahh so you got it before the price drop, I got it right when I saw it @ $155
If you're not too worried about warranty or don't want to wait as you play the guessing game with RMA by swapping boards until you get a nichicon one, like keeper did for his kx7, you might try doing it yourself as discussed in this thread: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...5&pagenumber=2
Still running 200 at 2:2:2-6 (2 x 256 MB Mushkins) rock solid but I am running into some problems above 210 MB. Maybe I have to increase the voltage to 2.7 on the memory for that to make it work...
(Ruby's here)
i've just received another a7n8x from komplett uk.. serial no# 2CZG0xxxx.. came with a G bios.. too bad it's a Ruby, heck it even overclocks worst than the older mobo! i'm going to return the new board as well as a stick of xms3500.. seems that A7N8X and XMS3500 doesn't mix very well.. i'm going to order another board from a different shop (request for nichicon) and buy a stick of either ocz el or hyperx ram.. argh!
The XMS need higher voltages than any other brand and that's why you may run into problems. Try the Mushkin PC3200, they run 200 MHz + at 2.6V, else, the el-cheapo A-Data are pretty good but those don't go that high at low latencies.
Yes.. but they gave me the credit back, since the change happened instantly like within a 30 min timeframe.. I was getting pist off but saw the -54.84 crdit there ;)Quote:
Originally posted by sysfailur
Ahh so you got it before the price drop, I got it right when I saw it @ $155 ;)
its the new bios :DQuote:
Originally posted by sysfailur
I'm thinking that's a typo, or I'm thinking you have an 8RDA+ and you didn't realize he was asking about the A7N8X... but I'm HOPING that A: You have some kinda BIOS that let's you go to 220mhz fsb, or B: you have a software program for higher FSB.
But I have a feeling you just typo'ed.
Btw, speaking of software fsb programs, I talked w/ the guy who makes setFSB and he said he's working on an nforce2 version *weeee* :banana:
I'm well aware of this now :PQuote:
Originally posted by mrbucket
its the new bios :D
My board came with the Nichicon. have 200 fsb rock stable for now. 2 Days in full Load.
My OCZ-EL PC3500 does lot more than 200 fsb......but i dont think the chipset can handle. :( Need a vdd mod here !!!
Btw...i love my 15013 3DMarks with my GF4 TI4200 :)
Hey guys--been reading for a while but had to register to take part in the thread--a good one I must say--better than all the "how do I know my heat-sink is on right?" posts, but I digress.
Here is some good info on this subject--though anyone who has to ask what to do with the info should probably leave it alone. Did some checking on this topic and read the other like posts here. The Nichicons ASUS is currently using are HD series--which are damn near their best for this app-- see the link here:
http://www.nichicon.com/english/seih...ini/list_f.htm
I have the Nichicons myself, but the board will only do 185 regardless of what I do--I have an EPox on the way to check out the 3-phase power.
Anyhow, for those that are not squeamish and have a good iron and silver solder, here are some interesting links that might enable higher overclocks and or stability:
the latest and greatest from Rubycon--quite a bit better than what ASUS is using I believe: (could someone with rubys please take a look and identify the 2 digit letter to aid this effort--thanks)
http://www.rubycon.co.jp/english/new/ctlg/indexe.html
more info on MBZ series:
http://www.electronicstalk.com/news/rub/rub100.html
good supplier of high-end caps and the place for the famed Rubycon "Black Gate" series caps--I believe the MBZ units are the latest member:
http://www.percyaudio.com/Catalog.pdf
Shortcirciut has already taken the leap--he's soldering!!--just needs some great high-end caps and a lucky board and HOLD ON!!!:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ght=capacitors
Take care guys and I'll post some more info if there is a noticeable improvent with this mod--if anyone is indeed interested.