Found me a X1800XL @ retail

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10-08-2005, 03:25 PM
RickCain

Found me a X1800XL @ retail

So I was at Frys in Fountain Valley this morning, looking for something else, and found six X1800XL's sitting on the shelf right next to some 7800GTX.

What else was I to do?

http://home.socal.rr.com/rickcain/images/x1800xl.JPG

http://home.socal.rr.com/rickcain/im...00_shuttle.JPG

This was meant for my PC in the bedroom which displays on a 32" Sharp LCD. Main entent was for the AVIVO capablilities and such. The card does fit in a Shuttle ATi Express200 based system no problem. Only problem is heat as it reached high 80's, low 90's within a few minutes.

3dmark05 at 575 core / 550mem - 7929 (FX53 running stock and drivers no tweaks)

Here are the markings on the core:

R520
215RFLBKA14FG
N21311.00
0536AAY

Memory

Samsung
K4J55323QG - BC14

I am going to put it in my gaming rig (X2 3800 running 2.6) tonight and see what she will do with some water. Only bad thing is the current CCC will only allow for 575 core / 560 mem.
10-08-2005, 03:26 PM
perkam

NICE !!! :slobber:

How about some pics of the 3dmark/oc results ? :D

Perkam
10-08-2005, 03:33 PM
Korpse

LOL, the worlds most powerful shuttle? :p:

sweet card, wish i was on PCI-E :(
10-08-2005, 03:46 PM
cupra

wow cool that baby is on stock , nice card you have there... :toast:
10-08-2005, 04:33 PM
metro.cl

that pic is freaking funny, for that money i would have bought a 7800gtx
10-08-2005, 04:36 PM
Vapor

RickCain...are you considering pulling the plate off the cooler and doing the "GTX Cooling mod"? It would be interesting to see how much that would help.
10-08-2005, 04:51 PM
NickS

Sweet purchase man!! Look's freakin crazy in that Shuttle :p.
10-08-2005, 06:39 PM
perkam

Quote:

I am going to put it in my gaming rig (X2 3800 running 2.6) tonight and see what she will do with some water.

Looking forward to it :)

Perkam
10-08-2005, 06:55 PM
cantankerous

wow, someone got one already. This boggles my mind. ATI is a Canadian company. I am about a 30 min drive from them yet the USA always gets their cards first. I can't find an X1800 locally or online anywhere yet you do by accident? pfsh.
10-08-2005, 07:02 PM
perkam

I live in mississauga, Cantakerous ... know how you feel :p:

But Monarch can ship to Canada if you're interested.

Perkam
10-08-2005, 07:10 PM
Kanavit

wow , that video card is huge!!
10-08-2005, 07:19 PM
RickCain

Here are some pics of the card. I'm stuck at 575 core / 550 mem until a tool is released to go further. This card is one HOT mutha. It ran in the 80'sc (90's in 3d) with stock cooling and is not locked in at 63c with a waterblock. Even after three loops of 3dmark05, it never budged once I strapped the waterblock on (Aqua Computer Cuplex w/ 6800 mounting bracket).

http://home.socal.rr.com/rickcain/images/X1800Front.JPG
http://home.socal.rr.com/rickcain/images/X1800Back.JPG
http://home.socal.rr.com/rickcain/images/X1800Naked.JPG
http://home.socal.rr.com/rickcain/images/X1800_7800.JPG
http://home.socal.rr.com/rickcain/im...atercooled.JPG
http://home.socal.rr.com/rickcain/im...tercooled2.JPG
10-08-2005, 07:31 PM
perkam

Any further OCs with watercooling :D

Could you show a screenshot of your ~7.9k run with cpuz shot and shot of how it did in each level of 3dmark :)

8k+ with that FX fired up ?? :eek:

Perkam
10-08-2005, 08:27 PM
babyelf

lol gotta love the pic in the shuttle..

nice buy m8 :)
10-08-2005, 08:33 PM
Dynasty

Quote:

wow, someone got one already. This boggles my mind. ATI is a Canadian company. I am about a 30 min drive from them yet the USA always gets their cards first.

I think the same thing, considering I live in Markham only 10 mins away from
them. You would think you can find atleast one small shop at pacific mall with atleast one card, but nooooooo.

Great pics of the card and set up, congrats on your new X1800 XL. :toast:
10-08-2005, 08:48 PM
RickCain

Quote:

Originally Posted by perkam

Any further OCs with watercooling :D

Could you show a screenshot of your ~7.9k run with cpuz shot and shot of how it did in each level of 3dmark :)

8k+ with that FX fired up ?? :eek:

Perkam

I didn't screenshot it but will once I find the happy spot. I am very tempted to take out the X2 3800 (runs 2.6) and slap the FX53 back in for some run.

Gaming is very nice with this card and the IQ seems to be the best I have seen, so far. Only problem so far is Serious Sam II won't run with HDR enabled. Just a black screen.
10-08-2005, 09:44 PM
Welz

05 is a little low for a FX and x1800xl...

we got guys pulling 7k w/ a venice and modded GTO2's...

come on m8! step it up : P

awesome pic with the card against the shuttle
10-08-2005, 09:53 PM
DilTech

Congrats on your new card, but I must say this...You paid $491 for a card that's SLOWER than the cheaper 7800gtx?

That's dedication right there, you're definitely off your rocker, of course, aren't all hardware enthusiasts? After all, we pay $1000's for hardware we'll replace in less than a year!

That said, show us some better numbers! Also, what temps did you manage out of the card on stock cooling in a case that's not SFF?
10-08-2005, 10:33 PM
Shadowmage

Hey, people still bought FX5800/FX5900, yes?

Also, X1800 series has nicer 2D features (AVIVO) and may OC nicely. It's using 1.4ns RAM (compared to 2.0 or 1.6ns on 7800GT) Maxxing CCC at stock is a good start ;)
10-08-2005, 10:42 PM
b0bd0le

screw the X1800XL, what i'm really curious about is how well that 1 and 1/2" x 48" wire hider overclocks ;)
10-08-2005, 10:56 PM
DilTech

It hits about 34 cables with extra volts, but that isn't on stock cooling, that was on LN2.
10-08-2005, 11:10 PM
don_vercetti

what are you OC'ing it with? Why not try ATI tool or see if rivatuner has support for it, or ATI Tray tools even.

GJ on being one of the first people in the wild to have on of these cards though! Nice find. Looks to be about on a par with a 7800gt.
10-09-2005, 01:17 AM
TEDY

The way i see it...450$ is too much for these , you could get 7800GTX for these :)
10-09-2005, 01:29 AM
\Karting_freak

this shuttle pic looks funy +)
10-09-2005, 01:34 AM
Vapor

TEDY....soon enough these should drop below MSRP once the initial rush is over (because people ARE buying them at these prices!). We also don't know the OCing potential yet--this may be able to compete with an OC'd GTX, but we don't know yet, it's too early in the game. ;)

In the meantime, keep up the good work RickCain and have fun with your new X1800XL (and your Fatal1ty X-Fi ;))!
10-09-2005, 04:45 AM
cantankerous

wow, lots of locals (to me) here that I didn't know about. At least I am not the only one missing out then. If I find cards anywhere ill let you know. Please do the same.
10-09-2005, 04:55 AM
Dumo

Quote:

Originally Posted by metro.cl

that pic is freaking funny, for that money i would have bought a 7800gtx

He's already have 7800GTX :)
10-09-2005, 05:20 AM
einCe

Quote:

we got guys pulling 7k w/ a venice and modded GTO2's...

*raises hand* :P
10-09-2005, 06:27 AM
RickCain

The 7x scores are coming from an FX53 running stock with crappy 2yr old RAM inside a shuttle. Not too bad.

I've tried ATiTool, Rivatuner with no luck. Neither can find the card. I guess it is time to order the Storm watercooling kit with the new Swiftech GPU block to see what I can get done.

Funny thing is it never moves off 63c with my lowflow block that has four other blocks in the loop. Water temp didnt' go up 2c either.

http://home.socal.rr.com/rickcain/images/CCC.JPG
10-09-2005, 06:57 AM
perkam

Why dont you try ATI Tool or Powerstrip ? You can set the max possible clock with those so you're not limited.

Perkam
10-09-2005, 07:07 AM
uwackme

hmmm

You sure the ole "shim too high" issue isnt biting you?

63C seems nutz for water, even lowflow. Both my X850's had to have the shim's removed, they were not making solid contact with thier heatsinks.
10-09-2005, 08:32 AM
SnipingWaste

Quote:

Originally Posted by perkam

Why dont you try ATI Tool or Powerstrip ? You can set the max possible clock with those so you're not limited.

Perkam

Both of the programs have not been updated and will not see a X1XXX type cards and will not alow any overclocking options.

I say give ita another week for the update to come in.
10-09-2005, 09:24 AM
DilTech

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnipingWaste

Both of the programs have not been updated and will not see a X1XXX type cards and will not alow any overclocking options.

I say give ita another week for the update to come in.

It "should" fit actually, they both use identical hole layouts...
10-09-2005, 10:18 AM
einCe

erm.. what are YOU talking about lol
10-09-2005, 10:25 AM
Welz

Quote:

Originally Posted by einCe

*raises hand* :P

:banana3:
10-09-2005, 10:38 AM
perkam

Quote:

Originally Posted by einCe

erm.. what are YOU talking about lol

EDIT: See below.

Perkam
10-09-2005, 11:44 AM
speed bump

Powerstrip will overclock your video card but it has to be running to keep the overclock so it isn't as good as for 3dmark but i'm sure the extra overclock will help out.
10-09-2005, 01:48 PM
Astennu

Have you tryed Ati Tray Tools ? May be that one has some support ?

And withe the temp. I had the same with my X700. Would not go below 52c. Strange ting. I think a buggy sensor. Of the heat is not transfered well trough the chip.
10-09-2005, 01:54 PM
Gnome

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnipingWaste

Both of the programs have not been updated and will not see a X1XXX type cards and will not alow any overclocking options.

I say give ita another week for the update to come in.

isn't powerstrip suppost to be driver independant ?
10-09-2005, 01:58 PM
Astennu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gnome

isn't powerstrip suppost to be driver independant ?

If thats so i need support for the card. And because almost nobody has one. U cant make the program work with it. If u don't use the drive u must find a other way arround and that takes time.
10-12-2005, 08:08 AM
Shadowmage

Any more updates? Someone suggested scouring the registry to try to tweak CCC to allow higher clocks.
10-12-2005, 08:40 AM
Master X

N00b question.... X1800 any better then 7800 GTX?
10-12-2005, 08:49 AM
DilTech

Answer for ya master... Depends on the application. In some yes, in some no, like how it always is between ATi and NVidia products.
10-12-2005, 09:33 AM
Shadowmage

ATI X1xxxhas more image quality options (especially angle-independent AA), but 7800GT/X is available now. ATI X1xxx series will have a greater lead in the future, with games with long shader scripts.
10-12-2005, 09:35 AM
DilTech

Eh shadow, that's a "possibility", it cannot currently be proven.

Also, future games will use radiosity, and therefore ATi will be at a disadvantage.
10-12-2005, 09:38 AM
Shadowmage

lol deleted per request
10-12-2005, 10:01 AM
Dynasty

Is there no ATI winclk for the X1800 series available yet :confused:
10-12-2005, 10:08 AM
perkam

This isnt a radiosity thread. Its RickCain's X800XL Results thread. Pls continue that conversation here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/....php?p=1081907 .

Perkam
10-12-2005, 01:12 PM
ahmad

Rick you need to email W1zzard directly. I think he is working on a beta version of atitools that allows for overclocking the x1800xl.
10-12-2005, 10:47 PM
Master X

I posted a few months ago in General Hardware forums on buying 2 7800GTX's now ATI has released this and dont know what one to get :slobber: I can't get 2 though because I dont have a crossfire motherboard.
10-13-2005, 04:55 AM
cantankerous

Quote:

Originally Posted by Master X

I posted a few months ago in General Hardware forums on buying 2 7800GTX's now ATI has released this and dont know what one to get :slobber: I can't get 2 though because I dont have a crossfire motherboard.

I heard a rumour not too long ago that ATI's crossfire could work on nvidia chipset just not as efficiently as on the crossfire chipset itself. Guess that was just noise?
10-13-2005, 04:59 AM
Vapor

Too early to tell, I reckon....

CF boards should be available VERY shortly from the egg....I mean a few days, btw.
10-13-2005, 05:06 AM
EZClock

Id like to see some results from CF, although I wonder how the 7800 Ultra 512mb card is gonna compete w/ the X1800XT, w/ 1.26ns Samsung memory, this is gonna be one intense battle.
10-15-2005, 10:20 PM
revenant

yes - intense would be one good word to sum that up. So the 7800 ultra will have 1.26ns mems (512mb worth) also?

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