FX Meets DI - First Run

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10-07-2005, 10:37 AM
babyelf

FX Meets DI - First Run

DFI NF4 Ultra-D
FX57 CABCE 0516 WPMW
Antec 550W TruePower2.0
2 x Raptors
Corsair 3200LLv1.1 | OCZ GX | TEAM BH-5
Chilly1 DI Container
Liquid Electrical Tape
Acetone
Funnel
Neoprene Tape

http://www.mini-itx.com.au/Images/DryIce/TheStuffs2.JPG
http://www.mini-itx.com.au/Images/Dr...prene-Tape.JPG
http://www.mini-itx.com.au/Images/DryIce/DryIce-1.JPG

Insulation : (listed by steps)

Liquid Electrical Tape around socket
- Liquid Electrical Tape will take approximately 20-30minutes to dry depending on how thick you apply on the motherboard. It will peel off easily from your motherboard so don't worry.

http://www.mini-itx.com.au/Images/DryIce/LET-Front.JPG
http://www.mini-itx.com.au/Images/DryIce/LET-Back.JPG

Neoprene Tape on Liquid Electrical Tape and gaps taped up with electrical tape and holes covered by Liquid Electrical Tape
- Next use some neoprene tape on the liquid electrical tape for extra insulation and for the extra height for better contact with the cylinder neoprene piece.
- Tape some neoprene on the back as well just in case.
- Cover the gaps with electrical tape

http://www.mini-itx.com.au/Images/Dr...late-front.JPG
http://www.mini-itx.com.au/Images/Dr...ulate-back.JPG
http://www.mini-itx.com.au/Images/Dr...Insulation.JPG

Test Mount

http://www.mini-itx.com.au/Images/Dr...-Run-Mount.JPG
http://www.mini-itx.com.au/Images/Dr...un-Mount-1.JPG

Dry Ice Run
- Best run for me is about 50ml of Acetone then some crushed ice followed by normal dry ice pieces.

http://www.mini-itx.com.au/Images/DryIce/Running-1.JPG
http://www.mini-itx.com.au/Images/DryIce/Running-7.JPG
http://www.mini-itx.com.au/Images/DryIce/Running-2.JPG

1M
http://www.mini-itx.com.au/Images/DryIce/1M-22.766.JPG

8M
http://www.mini-itx.com.au/Images/Dr...-4m15.750s.JPG

32M
http://www.mini-itx.com.au/Images/Dr...20m32.078s.JPG

After Run
- What I do is i remove all cylinder neoprene and then pour out all dry ice from the container.
- After that I add water into the container to warm the container so that the bond between the container and processor will loosen and then give it a good twist and it will come off easily.

http://www.mini-itx.com.au/Images/Dr...y1-on-FX-3.JPG
http://www.mini-itx.com.au/Images/Dr...y1-on-FX-2.JPG
http://www.mini-itx.com.au/Images/Dr...lly1-on-FX.JPG
http://www.mini-itx.com.au/Images/Dr...lly1-Frost.JPG

I have about half an eski of DI left.. will be doing more benching again tomorrow :toast:

2nd day :

first bad mount and ran out of ceramique.. tried AS5 and it didn't work well so had to cancel subsequent runs

had some dry ice left so i had some fun with them :p:
http://www.mini-itx.com.au/Images/Dr...ts-Water-2.JPG

Removing Insulation
http://www.mini-itx.com.au/Images/DryIce/LET-Peel-1.JPG

http://www.mini-itx.com.au/Images/DryIce/LET-Peel-2.JPG
10-07-2005, 10:50 AM
bachus_anonym

Nice 32M time, babyelf :up: Don't forget to submit it on Holicho's Ranking ;)

Gotta love that liquid electrical tape, eh? :) That stuff is just a must-have for phase change and DI/LN2 runs...

Congrats on a successful session :toast:
10-07-2005, 10:52 AM
Athens[2004]

Nice !! Very Nice insulation & pretty Good Benches 2
10-07-2005, 11:09 AM
babyelf

Quote:

Originally Posted by bachus_anonym

Nice 32M time, babyelf :up: Don't forget to submit it on Holicho's Ranking ;)

Gotta love that liquid electrical tape, eh? :) That stuff is just a must-have for phase change and DI/LN2 runs...

Congrats on a successful session :toast:

thanks alot :D

one more session to go tomorrow :D

yea lol.. started using it then i couldn't stop lol.. just had to brush it everywhere

Quote:

Originally Posted by Athens[2004

]Nice !! Very Nice insulation & pretty Good Benches 2

thanks :D
10-07-2005, 11:13 AM
waddupmm

Pics dont work any more?
10-07-2005, 11:25 AM
babyelf

just refresh a couple of times.. hosting went a bit crazy today
10-07-2005, 11:43 AM
babyelf

3602.5Mhz

257.3 x 14 :)
10-07-2005, 12:06 PM
metro.cl

nice runs and nice insulation
10-07-2005, 06:10 PM
babyelf

Quote:

Originally Posted by MickeyMouse

yeah got pics working now nice runs M8 :)

thanks MM :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by metro.cl

nice runs and nice insulation

thanks :D

One Q before i start today tho.. how much Acetone is needed in the container?

After running for a while the temps went back up to 0c or so in bios so i took it apart and there's no condensation.. then i checked and realised there's no more acetone left..
10-07-2005, 09:29 PM
afireinside

Not sure about the chilly1 container but a shot glass works best. I've seen using a medicine cup filled to the top lately. I doubt thats enough for the chilly1 tube, though.
10-07-2005, 10:44 PM
babyelf

ic.. thanks for the tips.. going to start now.. will try pouring about 50ml first and see how the temps go

:D
10-08-2005, 12:51 AM
babyelf

first mount bad... then tried to remount but ran out of ceramique so i tried AS5.. and temps were horrible..

so much for benching today.. :(
10-08-2005, 07:58 AM
T_M

no pics for me :(
find another host maybe
10-08-2005, 08:19 AM
[XC] moddolicous

I think people use AS Ceramique for subzero benches, not AS5. Looks really good.
Some timings to try for SPI 1m:
Tref: either 4708 or 3684
tras: 3
TRC: 5
Async latency: 7ns
read preamble: 5.5 or 5ns
10-08-2005, 08:25 AM
\Karting_freak

impressive!
10-08-2005, 12:49 PM
kiwi

Yeah, I like that neat insulation as well and nice scores :toast:
Does that Liquid Electrical Tape come off easily or not?
10-08-2005, 07:50 PM
babyelf

Quote:

Originally Posted by T_M

no pics for me :(
find another host maybe

yea looking for one at the moment :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by moddolicous

I think people use AS Ceramique for subzero benches, not AS5. Looks really good.
Some timings to try for SPI 1m:
Tref: either 4708 or 3864
tras: 3
TRC: 5
Async latency: 7ns
read preamble: 5.5 or 5ns

yea.. ran out of it that's y 2nd day didn't go well..

thanks for the tips.. ceramique coming soon and might find another day to do it

Quote:

Originally Posted by \carting_freak

impressive!

thanks :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiwi

Yeah, I like that neat insulation as well and nice scores :toast:
Does that Liquid Electrical Tape come off easily or not?

pics coming under next reply :)
10-08-2005, 07:54 PM
babyelf

http://www.mini-itx.com.au/Images/DryIce/LET-Peel-1.JPG

had some DI left after that.. so was playing with it lol

http://www.mini-itx.com.au/Images/Dr...ts-Water-2.JPG
10-09-2005, 02:59 AM
dinos22

holy :banana::banana::banana::banana: baby:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: you're are killing it over there.....extremely nice 32M speeds.......man with some more tweaking OPB watch out
10-09-2005, 07:43 PM
babyelf

ta dinos.. OPB is called OPB for a reason u know? ;)
10-09-2005, 07:58 PM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by babyelf

ta dinos.. OPB is called OPB for a reason u know? ;)

hold no prisoners....there was someone there before OPB too......this is XS afterall......hehehhe

good luck anyways...looking good
10-09-2005, 09:20 PM
SLi_dog

Hi babyelf,
Nice setup and PI times. :toast:
How much did the Chilly1 DI/LN2 tube cost?
10-10-2005, 12:18 AM
babyelf

ta

got it on for sale here.. pm chilly1 for the price of the new container :)
10-10-2005, 12:38 AM
nachthymnen

Incredible!!!You have obtained exactly my same time in 1M: :D
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/4...27663lk.th.jpg
10-10-2005, 12:47 AM
babyelf

Quote:

Originally Posted by nachthymnen

Incredible!!!You have obtained exactly my same time in 1M: :D
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/4...27663lk.th.jpg

lol nice lol

on DI too?
10-10-2005, 12:59 AM
nachthymnen

Quote:

Originally Posted by babyelf

lol nice lol

on DI too?

Yes with DI...my first run ever.Congratulation for the beautiful work of insulation!!! :slobber: The second day i have risk to damage hardware...after the bench I have found water around the socket :eek: ...fortunately alla it's ok:)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=74963
10-10-2005, 01:03 AM
nachthymnen

I want to try again but only when I will receive the Jason's container :D
10-10-2005, 01:35 AM
babyelf

same ;)

Jason.. get them ready soon!! :D
10-10-2005, 03:54 AM
dinos22

liquid electrical tape

where and how much
10-10-2005, 11:04 AM
Eldonko

Napa was the only place I could find it. 8 bucks or something I think.
10-10-2005, 02:49 PM
nachthymnen

Quote:

Originally Posted by babyelf

same ;)

Jason.. get them ready soon!! :D

I'm really excited for the new container...I think no more to wait for receive it :D :banana:
10-10-2005, 03:13 PM
babyelf

Quote:

Originally Posted by MickeyMouse

Im really hoping this week :) so keep fingured crossed, hehe

:woot: :toast:
10-11-2005, 12:25 AM
nachthymnen

Quote:

Originally Posted by MickeyMouse

Im really hoping this week :) so keep fingured crossed, hehe

This is a great news Jason...I'm double excited :D :banana: :banana: :YIPPIE:
10-12-2005, 01:30 PM
cupra

well done babyelf i like i a lot .

we have same rig, and i will try d.ice on my fx rig soon :toast:
10-15-2005, 09:35 AM
cool_dude

Congrats on the loveley 32M time!! :toast:
10-15-2005, 09:38 AM
babyelf

thanks cupra and cool dude :D

got my tube of ceramique.. chipset fan died on me.. so have to wait to get a iceberg4 to replace it =/
10-15-2005, 02:52 PM
bh2k

If I may ask a question how you were able to keep the Liquid electrical tape from seeping in to the socket and clogging it up?
10-15-2005, 08:01 PM
babyelf

just go slow.. apply a little at a time..

but a little bit under the socket will be alright..

i sealed the area between the area under the socket and the board so that if water ever forms it won't go under the socket..

but when you mean the socket you mean the top or under the socket?
10-27-2005, 02:40 AM
^don.k's^

didn't you use dielectric grease between the socket and the cpu? Isn't it needed for DI runs? only 24/7 vapo's?
10-27-2005, 01:44 PM
Eldonko

Grease is best for 24/7 phase set ups. You don't have dice set up long enough for the pins to corrode.
10-27-2005, 02:42 PM
^don.k's^

Thanks, i wasn't sure how it's used for, now i know the condensation under chip is 0( i thought the cold would freeze the condensation so not water ) so the grease is only to avoid corrosion, is it ok? I'm getting ready for my first DI run and don't wanna kill nothing obviusly... :stick: :p:

:toast:
10-27-2005, 03:52 PM
babyelf

nah you won't need it.. go ahead with it :D

good luck
11-08-2005, 03:36 AM
Victorshen

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

liquid electrical tape

where and how much

yeah me have the same question
i'd assume you got it in sydney
give us some clues man :D

ta
11-08-2005, 05:03 AM
babyelf

nah didn't get it here..

got a friend to send it to me..

still have about half a can or more left
11-08-2005, 08:38 PM
Victorshen

Quote:

Originally Posted by babyelf

nah didn't get it here..

got a friend to send it to me..

still have about half a can or more left

cheers

i found them in jaycar
01-14-2006, 08:41 PM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Victorshen

cheers

i found them in jaycar

good find

@baby..... is that the lowest temp you saw..... -36C (in 32M run screenshot)
01-14-2006, 09:50 PM
T_M

has BE dissapeared from the face of the earth!??!
01-14-2006, 09:52 PM
alpha0ne

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

good find

Maybe we should buy 4 cans = cheaper :D
01-14-2006, 10:13 PM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by alpha0ne

Maybe we should buy 4 cans = cheaper :D

u going sub zero too :cool:
01-15-2006, 12:19 AM
alpha0ne

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

u going sub zero too :cool:

kayl is making a unit for me though only with a small compressor :cool: :D
01-21-2006, 05:00 AM
Kesnel

Very nice run babyelf, nice scores.

That insulation method looks great, can I just ask, did you use any dielectric grease in the socket in addition to the steps you showed?
01-24-2006, 11:11 AM
marvt74

Not sure if he did or not but di-electric isn't as needed for dry ice runs since it only lasts a few hours
01-24-2006, 02:15 PM
^don.k's^

I didn't used, and man, now i know i should have done it... My 146 got nearly black in the pins side, seems to be oxide or something, not sure if it was coz it got over 0ºc or only coz grease free, but i'm sure i will use the next times... 146 still running ok tho... :stick:
01-27-2006, 07:01 AM
Celcius

Awesome babyelf!
Nice pics too:toast:
01-27-2006, 04:00 PM
4Qman

Nice pics and well explained.

Im hitting the Dry Ice myself soon and it helps alot when i get to see decent
examples like this.:toast:
02-07-2006, 04:29 AM
knob

dude. that is some coool stuff. Throw it in flame. They explode! eheheh.

Let me find a pic of us in a medical laboratory playing with dry ice
02-07-2006, 04:31 AM
knob

Quote:

Originally Posted by T_M

has BE dissapeared from the face of the earth!??!

Hmm. He hasnt been on any forums