http://gdhardware.com/ed/ati/x1800_c/001.htm
Here's your release dates...
Notice the x1800xl won't even SHIP, supposidly, until october 10th, yet the "launch" is tommorrow!
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http://gdhardware.com/ed/ati/x1800_c/001.htm
Here's your release dates...
Notice the x1800xl won't even SHIP, supposidly, until october 10th, yet the "launch" is tommorrow!
5th November... if its true, its really not sooooo bad (considering the past). lol
available at those dates. It all depends on what ATI means with available.
i thought there would only be a 512MB version of the X1800XT.
No surprise for me but this part was shocking:Quote:
Originally Posted by DilTech
(quote)Cutting to the chase here, nobody should really care about the X800 series as it doesn’t make sense to us – nor would we recommend – to have our readers invest more money into a technology that doesn’t support Shader Model 3.0. Yes, we’re aware that all the games will do a SM 2.0 fallback, by why not have the games look and run their best?(/quote) :slapass:
That's the ship date, as in the day they're shipping to stores, NOT wide-spread availability dates...in otherwords, you'll STILL be waiting til december before you can buy a x1800xt readily.
I'll just quietly hope that info is wrong thank you :rolleyes:
Their own launch partners would be surprised if they had the xt's before christmas???Quote:
Originally Posted by gdhardware
1. We already knew the XT wouldn't ship until november, this is old news...
2. GDHardware also said that the X18xx series doesn't support shader model 3.0...which is a load of BS, it obviously does if they paid any attention to the sales tech slides that were posted at techpowerup the other day.
No, they said it did, they're talking about the x800gto's/x850xt crossfire in that sentence. They basically say they wouldn't advise it to ANYONE.
gee i guess i better listen to anyone that reccommends otherwise and not spend 200 dollars for an xtpe
All we KNOW right now guys is that we haven't seen any 'accidentally' posted sales of these things (like we did with the 7800GTX), nor have we seen any benchmarks. What does that mean? Nothing....the benchmarks ARE there, so the sales might be there tomorrow too.
I don't have time to waste waiting for a card that isn't proven in real life.. Time for me to start SLi and 7800gtx shopping
At this rate...I think the 7800GTX allowed Nvidia to basically capture the video card crown... ATI seriously lost and got really damaged due to this delayed release imo.
yeah this thing better be amazing. i mean kick the :banana::banana::banana::banana: outta the 7800gtx in everything, or ATI is in knee deep. I ended up buying this 6800GT, because of all the delays in the launch of the x800XT... :stick: looks like things are gonna be similar for many people this round too...
Pretty soon, Sapphire will tell ATI to F##K off lol
If the XL can debut at around $450 within a week or so of launch (assuming it's available at launch) ... ATI could just have saved itself.
Perkam
Yeah and based on history what do you think the odds of that are?
Pure damage control guys...nothing more..if ATI continues this way I hope they will be bought out by another company... :stick:
3dfx 2.0 :(
STEvil
Man havent seen you post for a long time
The possible death throws of a major company will do that...
Nah...3dfx lacked the capital to continue with their development. ATI lost a lot of that shareholder credibility but the market they lost wasn't all that big. (remember, GTX and sli being out only kills less than a third of the "I-think-I've-got-an-uber-dell" market)...Furthermore, companies now reguarly go into Chapter 11 Bankruptcy protection to protect themselves from hostile takeovers,if that time comes, and come out swinging after reduction in costs etc.
This isn't a small bump in the road anymore, but its not a major one either.
Perkam
ok now i am waiting for x1800xt 256 mb in Europe or maybe with :stick: :banana: :banana: 512
:banana3: :YIPPIE: :bounces:
GDI hardware was wrong. The x1800 does support shader 3.0.
I think the presentation demo at ati.com is excellent and has salivated my interest for the moment; unit of coarse I read on how expensive it will be :)
No, only you were wrong in accusing GDI hardware of being wrong, to be blunt. They were referring to X8x0 (R420/R480 etc.), not X1800 (R520).Quote:
Originally Posted by Think
See now?Quote:
Originally Posted by GDI hardware
We've known that the x1800 had sm 3.0 for a while, and that ATI has had SM 2.0b for a while too, and the difference can only be seen in the most recent splinter cell's SM 3.0-biased video options...otherwise most games run fine and well with SM versions.
Game developers arent foolhardy. They want to make games accessible to as many ppl as possible, and so only the newer upcoming games will be sm 3.0 only, otherwise most will support both 2.0b and 3.0.
Perkam
Ah, clarified.
Thanks
:)
Hopefully by E.A. :fact:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim
So then I can hate E.A. and ATi all in the same emotion. I dont hate them, Im just really, really disapointed that they didn't come thru. Ive lost a little respect for them, UNLESS they show me image quality, and horsepower improvements over GT,GTX.
I would like to formally announce a video card that I have privately developed in my own home. It's called the Mr. Tinker5000-Ultra, it has 40 pixel pipelines, 12 vertex pipelines, a core clocked at 1Ghz, and 512Mb ram clocked at 1500Mhz. The Mr. Tinker5000-Ultra scores 15,100 in 3dMark05 at default speeds.
I hope to have the Mr. Tinker5000-Ultra available in retail stores by the end of November for an MSRP of $450.
Seriously folks, if you can't buy it, then it doesn't compete. "Direct competition" is determined by one thing: PRICE. And look at the price points: The X1800XL is not competing with the 7800gt, at $450 retail it is competing with the 7800GTX, which will probably handily beat it.
Actually Direct competition is when two products that perform the same function are compared. Not based on price. Just a heads up for future reference.
Also, ATi has showed me that they possess better Image quality, and Performance. I intend to purchase the X1800XT ASAP.
but most consumers judge on price.. If they can get a $350 card that is equal to a $450 card.. they will buy the $350 card...
And if you look at the benchmarks the 7800GT and the X1800Xl are about the same but the GT is here and about $100 cheaper..
Now you don't need a slide rule to figure out which to going to be more often bought...
In theory, you are correct, but when it comes right down to it, EVERY person or business walks into every purchase with a budget (except for the super rich, in which case the competition is based on who has the best product for their need).Quote:
Originally Posted by OcX
They want to know what's the best product they can get for $100. $200. $350. $450. The money is where you start.
If I have product selling for $1000 that has the same features as a competitor's product which sells for $200, do our two products compete? No.
That's just the way it is in the real world.
Would be a nice purchase for those that didn't bought 7800GTX :D
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did someone say rich?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Tinker
clayton:
Main PC:
4x Opteron 875 @ stock speed & 1x HP Quadro FX 4500
The world's first Opteron freak since model Opteron 248HE. Yes I'm here!
Gaming PC:
AMD Athlon 64 FX-57+ & SLI'ed 2x EVGA 7800GTX
mmm msut be nice ;-)
Quote:
Originally Posted by __TRONIK__
Thats Sick!! :D
Clayton, can I come over and rob you? :slobber: :slobber: :D