ATI's 5th Dimension: Reviews Inside

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10-04-2005, 06:37 AM
Cooper

ATI's 5th Dimension: Reviews Inside

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9349/logos2ni.jpg

ATI Press release

HardWareZone - X1300 PRO 256MB only
TechReport
Beyond3D - architectual overview
Beyond3D - synthetic and real-world benchmarks
HotHardWare
PCper
NeoSeeker
DriverHeaven
ExtremeTech - X1800 family
ExtremeTech - X1300Pro review
ExtremeTech - benchmarking with F.E.A.R.
[H]ardOCP - X1k family
[H]ardOCP - X1800XT Evaluation
INQ
Guru3D
TheTechLounge
TBreak
HardWareSecrets
FiringSquad
Bjorn3D Macci & Sampsa doing some xtreme OCing
Anandtech - overview and performance
Anandtech - Extended Performance Testing
XbitLabs - R520 architecture explored
XbitLabs - X1600XT performance
XbitLabs - X1800XL/XT performance
Rage3D - X1800XT
Bit-Tech
Digit-Life - full X1K line
Hexus - SAPPHIRE RADEON X1800 XL 256MB Vs XFX GeForce 7800 GT 256MB
Hexus - SAPPHIRE RADEON X1800 XT 512MB Vs Leadtek PX7800 GTX TDH MyVIVO Extreme 256MB
LegitReviews - X1000 RoundUp

For those who eager to wait some OCing results please follow the Xtreme3DTeam thread - there will be lots o` those hardcore scores.
10-04-2005, 08:30 AM
slider99

Why .org? :confused:

anyway... ehm...i think whoever posts first deserves the first thread, really... all other stuff we have the ATI News thread for? Or?

edit: erm... yes, and why fifth dimension??? perhaps i'm a lil slow or something, but i didn't get it?
10-04-2005, 01:41 PM
SnipingWaste

Here yall go a X1300Pro review.
http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles...?cid=3&id=1723
10-04-2005, 02:17 PM
Exa.bit

I want to see some reviews that include some overclocking. All in time I guess. :stick:
10-04-2005, 02:27 PM
ettis

Excels in 3Dmark05 but gets beaten by x700 almost constantly in every game tested... :stick:
10-04-2005, 02:36 PM
DilTech

Excels in 3dmark05...Gee, kinda reminds me of the x800xt/x850xt...
10-04-2005, 03:41 PM
onewingedangel

Quote:

Originally Posted by ettis

Excels in 3Dmark05 but gets beaten by x700 almost constantly in every game tested... :stick:

but considering this is replacing the x300 and not the x700 this is very impressive.
10-04-2005, 04:33 PM
Flak Monkey

Yes but the retail price is $150 and at that price the 6600gt and even things from ati's last gen line-up beat it.
10-04-2005, 06:57 PM
Shadowmage

Quote:

Originally Posted by DilTech

Excels in 3dmark05...Gee, kinda reminds me of the x800xt/x850xt...

lol out of all the forums I've seen, I have yet to see you make a decent comment regarding R520. GJ.

Beating 6600 with weaker (visible) specs across the board? It's impressive no matter how much you distort it. Let's see you list a 4 pipelined NV card that does as well as RV515... NVIDIA will need a card with twice the amount of pipelines just to tie with it!

---

The retail is extravagent, yes. It'll go down fast though, since it'll be cheap and plentiful. I wouldn't be surprised if the price drops below $120 (probably will be around $100-$110) the first month it's out.
10-04-2005, 08:13 PM
DilTech

Shadow, look at the thread I posted on this on EOCF, then rethink your post.
10-04-2005, 08:14 PM
perkam

I'm not making any new stickies anytime soon guys...I'll see how the launch plays out first.

Not a bad idea though Cooper.

Perkam
10-05-2005, 05:03 AM
onethreehill

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=3603

http://techreport.com/onearticle.x/8864

http://www.beyond3d.com/reviews/ati/r520/

http://www.hothardware.com/viewartic...leid=734&cid=2

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=172

http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Ha..._x1600preview/

http://www.driverheaven.net/#news86761

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...1867208,00.asp
10-05-2005, 05:05 AM
Gibson

http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=ODIy
10-05-2005, 05:08 AM
HKPolice

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=26720

These reviews are a joke, one says the X1800XT is faster than the 7800GTX in farcry 1.33, another says the opposite, and another says they're about the same, all were run at 1600x1200 no AA or AF.

http://img.hexus.net/v2/graphics_car...nch-farcry.png

http://www.pcperspective.com/images/...c-1-00-bar.gif
10-05-2005, 05:19 AM
perkam

oth...ty...nice list.

Perkam
10-05-2005, 05:20 AM
iboomalot

has ATI said anything about increasing the # of pipes???
10-05-2005, 05:23 AM
perkam

Quote:

has ATI said anything about increasing the # of pipes???

This isnt the thread for that...this is for discussing/listing review sites only.

Try the ATI News Thread, boomalot.

Perkam
10-05-2005, 05:41 AM
slider99

HKPolice > You positive they were using the exact same testing systems in all cases, and they were all using the same drivers, software etc. Moreover, as you probably know, different bench runs generates different scores, so there is a small error marigin that must considered too. Then again, I agree, they are awfully close (closer still than nextgen, before refreshes ofc).

Still, I think my two XFX 7800GTX 490/1300 SLI are the clear winners here... hehe. But, we might see some stock oc'd XTs too (press edition)^2.

edit: Must confess I don't much like the looks of this...
http://img.hexus.net/v2/graphics_car...ch-fear-iq.png
@16x12 wtf???
10-05-2005, 05:49 AM
onethreehill

http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/262/

http://www.thetechlounge.com/review...._x1000_preview

http://www.tbreak.com/reviews/article.php?id=407

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/227

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...n_x1800_xt_xl/
10-05-2005, 05:59 AM
perkam

Not to worry slider, keep in mind that's prolly a 512MB version of the X1800XT, and Nvidia's 512MB version will try to topple this in the upcoming weeks. ;)

Perkam
10-05-2005, 11:25 AM
Dr_at_Home

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...es/bf21600.gif
:slobber:

Most impressive to me :clap:
10-05-2005, 11:55 AM
One_Hertz

the results are very different.... but overall its not THAT much better then gtx. The adjustable core volatge is :slobber: though. Anyways I do not see a point in waiting another few months and ill just go grab a gtx, which will be my first nvidia card ever....
10-05-2005, 12:04 PM
Cooper

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr_at_Home

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...es/bf21600.gif
:slobber:

Most impressive to me :clap:

I see you have HUGE monitor :D
Personally I agree with One Hertz - GTX already on the sale and 2 of those still make GREAT performance.
ATI did make really new product - R520 has very good new features like adjustable voltages and multy-threaded shaders (IMO REAL 1st step to WGF 2.0)
10-05-2005, 01:33 PM
perkam

I wouldnt mind the X1800LE or PRO or whatever comes under the $300 mark anytime in the next 3 months or so....seeing as the X1600XT has proved itself to be "uber crapola with a sidedish of pwned -_- "

Perkam
10-05-2005, 01:58 PM
n00b 0f l337

Hmmmm loook at those mounting holes....
10-05-2005, 03:44 PM
onethreehill

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2552&p=1

http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?page...mit=Go&cID=843
10-05-2005, 06:21 PM
Dr_at_Home

At bjorn3d they have overclock results... :fact:

"Engine clock = 864 MHz (programmed the core voltage regulator with a value of "a". I tried increasing the voltage more by going to "9" and the board immediately dies…is it supposed to do that????)
Memory clock = 990 MHz (programmed regulator for MVDDC and MVDDQ to "bf") "

I'm guessing they almost got 2 Ghz on the card's ram then? :eek:

And yes Cooper, I do. 24" of CRT :D
10-05-2005, 06:26 PM
Vapor

It was actually 940MHz memory....someone made boo-boo doing division.
10-05-2005, 06:37 PM
Dr_at_Home

That's still crazily high...
10-05-2005, 07:16 PM
trakslacker

that 864 was on LN2, though. I was hoping for more. Although I'm sure once the cards become available, we'll see one hit up much closer to 1Ghz. :)
10-05-2005, 08:11 PM
onethreehill

ATI RADEON X1000: Brand-New Graphics Architecture from ATI Explored

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid...eon-x1000.html

ATI RADEON X1800 XT and XL Performance: Crushing NVIDIA's 7800?

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid...eon-x1800.html
10-06-2005, 06:02 AM
nn_step

and I quote
"Overall Summary of Performance:

Well, it appears that the Radeon X1800 XL is not the GeForce 7800 GT killer everyone was hoping it would be. It seems that the cards trade blows back and forth depending on the game. In some games, the X1800 XL is faster; in other games, the GeForce 7800 GT is faster. We were hoping for a larger performance difference but we just didn’t find it. The Radeon X1800 XL is a very competitive video card to the GeForce 7800 GT, but it in no way “blows it out of the water” in current games.

The Radeon X1600 XT does a little better though. We did see some blows being traded back and forth between the Radeon X1600 XT and the GeForce 6800, but, for the most part, the card shined in the newer games like Battlefield 2 and F.E.A.R. If this is an indication of its performance in future titles, it could be a good thing for ATI, as long as NVIDIA doesn’t counter with a GeForce 7 series product for the same price. Up against the GeForce 6 series, the Radeon X1600 XT performs very well."

notice the x1800xl costs $450 and the 7800GT costs as low as $350...
this doesn't look good for ATi...
10-06-2005, 08:50 AM
Dautonico

http://translate.google.com/translat...language_tools

Anoyther review, this one in portuguese(already translated) and with a different game, IL2 Sturmokiv
10-07-2005, 03:46 PM
onethreehill

ATI's X1000 Series: Extended Performance Testing

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2556

ATI RADEON X1600 XT: Mainstream Performance Redefined Once Again?

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid...eon-x1600.html

ATI RADEON X1600 XT/X1300 PRO Performance Preview

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/..._xt_x1300_pro/

ATI RADEON X1300 PRO: Entry-Level Gets a Decent Performer?

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid...eon-x1300.html
10-15-2005, 05:22 PM
onethreehill

X1800XT @ Rage3D

http://www.rage3d.com/reviews/video/...00xt/index.php
10-20-2005, 04:42 PM
onethreehill

Sapphire Radeon X1800XL

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200...x1800xl/1.html
10-20-2005, 05:16 PM
Dissolved

Quote:

Originally Posted by onethreehill

Sapphire Radeon X1800XL

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200...x1800xl/1.html

looks like a red pcb nv card :confused:
10-22-2005, 02:27 AM
onethreehill

RADEON X1800 (R520), X1600 (RV530), and X1300 (RV515) Series Part 1 to 5

http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/...20-part5p.html
10-22-2005, 06:04 AM
iboomalot

Quote:

Originally Posted by onethreehill

Sapphire Radeon X1800XL

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200...x1800xl/1.html

apples to apples

X1800XL = 389.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102612

XFX7800GT = 349.00
BFG7800GT = 369.00

prices aren't too high considering its a brand new card even if its out late.

new ati drivers bump speeds slightly which should equal out the tests where Nvidia always wins like Doom

either way nice to see Video cards moving again in the right direction
10-22-2005, 09:17 AM
DilTech

That's OEM versus retailbox though Iboomalot...

Actually, I'm shocked that a retail box would cost that much less than an OEM product! :nono:
10-22-2005, 10:58 AM
iboomalot

ooops missed the OEM part

as Glenda Radner(sp) would say on SNL "oh NEVERMIND"
10-24-2005, 01:36 AM
onethreehill

ATI R520: Radeon X1800 XT & XL Performances

"This it the second part to Beyond3D's R520: X1800 article. To read the full version, including the initial architectural overview, the X1000 series product line-up and details of the second revision of Crossfire click here."

http://www.beyond3d.com/reviews/ati/r520/index2.php
10-25-2005, 04:58 PM
onethreehill

Radeon X1300 Pro: ATI's Newest Budget GPU

"As of the date of this writing, the only card you can actually buy is the X1800 XL. We have word from ATI that the X1300 cards have shipped to distributors some time ago, which should be appearing on the shelves and online stores any day now. With new drivers in hand, it's time to take a look at ATI's new low-end card."

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...1876184,00.asp
10-26-2005, 10:44 AM
JuanFlaiter

ChileHardware:

Radeon X1800XL (In Spanish)

Soon: XT
10-29-2005, 04:10 PM
onethreehill

SAPPHIRE RADEON X1800 XL 256MB & XFX GeForce 7800 GT 256MB

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=3781
10-29-2005, 07:45 PM
iboomalot

I got a call from Comp USA and my X1800XT is due in on Wed so looks like early NOV when it hits the shelves. ***crosses fingers***
10-31-2005, 10:25 AM
Mehmet_Ali

Waitin For 5th Nov
10-31-2005, 11:07 AM
Ubermann

http://www.rage3d.com/reviews/video/.../index.php?p=1
With some X1800XT in it running latest drivers.
11-04-2005, 04:13 PM
onethreehill

ATI Radeon X1800 XT Evaluation

http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=ODc1
11-05-2005, 08:26 AM
Ubermann

Quote:

With that said, we did find both video cards to be playable at 1600x1200 with 2XAA enabled. In High Quality mode 4X AF is enabled and in Ultra Quality mode 8X AF is enabled by default. Therefore, our highest playable settings in Quake 4 were 1600x1200 2X AA and 4X AF on the BFGTech GeForce 7800 GTX OC and 1600x1200 2X AA and 8X AF on the ATI Radeon X1800 XT. Looking at the graph, you can see that the performance is different . Overall, the BFGTech GeForce 7800 GTX is pulling in faster frame rates. This is especially noticeable in the minimum frame rate, which has a difference of 9 frames per second (FPS). There is a period in the middle of the game where the Radeon X1800 XT performance hovers around the mid 30 FPS mark, while the BFGTech GeForce 7800 GTX OC is hovering around the 45-50 FPS mark, which is a very noticeable difference during game play.

ATI using Ultra Quality 8XAF
NV using High Quality 4XAF

Is this how to do a review btw 2 cards ?

I wont say no more..
11-08-2005, 06:21 PM
onethreehill

i think you missed the words: Therefore, our highest playable settings in Quake 4

They tested both cards @ High Quality at 1600x1200 with 2XAA/4XAF

Quote:

With the information above and the fact that, right now, Ultra Quality is not a viable option because of a detrimental bug, we suggest you play Quake 4 in High Quality mode on the Radeon X1800 XT. With this in mind, we can now compare “apples-to-apples” playable settings of High Quality at 1600x1200 with 2XAA/4XAF between the BFGTech GeForce 7800 GTX OC and the Radeon X1800 XT. These are the settings you will likely use with both video cards on this setup in single player.
11-09-2005, 08:12 AM
Ubermann

I was wrong, thanks for correcting me.

Fear benchmark at Extremetech
11-12-2005, 04:56 PM
onethreehill

SAPPHIRE RADEON X1800 XT 512MB vs Leadtek PX7800 GTX TDH MyVIVO Extreme 256MB

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=3899&page=1
11-13-2005, 10:20 AM
Ubermann

Wohoo they overclocked the card, not often i see that in a review!
Nvidia has been using Doom3 for a long time to say their card is best.
I guess ATi goes "If you gonna play Far Cry then ATi is best" on Monday :)
11-22-2005, 04:57 PM
onethreehill

RADEON X1800 (R520), X1600 (RV530), and X1300 (RV515) Series Part 6

http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/...520-part6.html
12-15-2005, 04:09 PM
onethreehill

Driven by the New Catalyst: Sapphire RADEON X1800 XL Review

Quote:

RADEON X1000 series graphics cards, announced back in early October, have started to emerge in shops. Today we will be reviewing the RADEON X1800 XL as it comes from Sapphire Technologies and will be comparing its performance on the new Catalyst driver to that of NVIDIA’s GeForce 7800 GT and GTX.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid...e-x1800xl.html
12-16-2005, 07:03 AM
Ubermann

Hexus X1800XT crossfire preview:
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=4112

HKEPC benches:
http://hkepc.com/hwdb/x1800cfoc-1.htm
12-19-2005, 03:30 AM
onethreehill

Sapphire X1800XT “Performance Edition” Review

9979 3DMark05 @ 700/800 MHz (default speed)

10069 3DMark05 @ 725/800 MHz

http://casemodgod.com/Reviews-story--99.html
12-19-2005, 10:31 AM
Rovtar

100 score+ with just 25mhz increse of gpu
12-19-2005, 05:17 PM
onethreehill

ATI X1000 Series Video Card Roundup

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/271/1/
12-19-2005, 06:37 PM
perkam

ROFL...:p:

http://www.legitreviews.com/images/r...71/ati_x1k.jpg

Now why would the carpet have any static ??? :lol:

Perkam
12-20-2005, 03:16 AM
Tim

Quote:

Originally Posted by perkam

ROFL...:p:

http://www.legitreviews.com/images/r...71/ati_x1k.jpg

Now why would the carpet have any static ??? :lol:

Perkam

I saw the same....what a bunch of morons :lol:
12-21-2005, 11:27 AM
Ubermann

Sapphire X1800XT “Performance Edition” Review: (700/1600)

http://casemodgod.com/Reviews-story--99.html
01-02-2006, 10:48 AM
perkam

I think the x1800 has run its course press wise...unstickied.

Though check out its replacement in the stickies ;)

Perkam

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