7210.5MHz 670 Cascade cooled Pressy!

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10-02-2005, 01:01 AM
JacobHansen

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7210.5MHz 670 Cascade cooled Pressy!

Tom Holck is back on track!.. :toast: :banana:

Here is the thread at a danish forum with the rest of the pictures..
http://www.tweak.dk/forum/thread.php...did=51824&sid=

Benchstable
10-02-2005, 01:04 AM
Stuperman

arg have to be a member to see pics, SS or benchable.?
10-02-2005, 01:06 AM
Sesto Sento

any pics here??
10-02-2005, 01:12 AM
JacobHansen

that should be sortet out now.. can you see the pictures now?
10-02-2005, 01:13 AM
Stuperman

yep, that's nuts.

wow, I wonder if fugger willl have anythign to combat that.
10-02-2005, 01:19 AM
AKURA

Nice job Tom :toast: That's a nice come back! :clap:
10-02-2005, 01:49 AM
jan

Very nice. And "only" with a cascade and not LN2 :)
10-02-2005, 01:57 AM
massman

looks like those lga775 cpu's are how clockers :)
10-02-2005, 02:20 AM
SIOUX

Nice going ther Tom :)
10-02-2005, 02:35 AM
blind_ripper

nice clocks keep it coming :clap:
10-02-2005, 02:50 AM
jrw

Uhlalala.

Could we see some pics of the setup?
10-02-2005, 03:57 AM
Fast

which temperatures on the cpu?
10-02-2005, 06:45 AM
AH^DK

The cascade can remove 250watt's of heat at -125c so I think it is around the 120-125 mark. Yep 7210mhz is 1M stable.

Crazy cpu of his.
10-02-2005, 07:02 AM
crotale

I would like to see some 3DMark action at 6.5GHz+...
10-02-2005, 07:06 AM
alexio

I would like to see some LN2 action at a chip that can do 7200mhz at "only" -120 C.
And ofcourse finally some 3Dmark action with a 6ghz+ P4.
10-02-2005, 07:31 AM
k|ngp|n

Nice scores Tom :toast:
These 670's are looking really awesome! Dying to see some 3d with it.
That chip on ln2 would be crazy.
10-02-2005, 08:08 AM
Leverpospade

:slobber: :slobber: Nice :D :D :D Could be fun to see that thing in an old school PCmark 02 :banana: imagine 20 000 in CPU score :slobber:

Makes me all proud of being a Dane :D
10-02-2005, 09:45 AM
AACDIRECT

All I can say...WOW :slobber: I am kind of an AMD fan but it is hard to argue with that OC. :clap:

Can't wait to see some benches.

I love this forum. It is a great community. Any other forum people would be accusing him of lying or cheating. Or :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:ing that there CPU is not as fast. Or just flaming each other for no real reason. Just thought I would throw that out there. Sorry for being off topic.
10-02-2005, 09:59 AM
afireinside

Wow :slobber: Tom has one hell of a cascade and killer chip there. Congrats!
10-02-2005, 11:23 AM
extol1337

wowowow! nicee
10-02-2005, 11:53 AM
Tom Holck

Quote:

Originally Posted by jan

Very nice. And "only" with a cascade and not LN2 :)

LOL

My cascade is better than LN2.

Se the results with FX53 / FX55 and now the 670

I'll come up with some more picture. Right now going for the "grand slam" Wr in M1, M8 and M32 :D
10-02-2005, 11:57 AM
bachus_anonym

Damn Tom...! :shocked: I'm ready to :slobber: seeing you reclaiming your 32M record... This time on Intel :)

Don't forget to run 1.4mod instead of original SuperPi ;)

EDIT: I also asked OMEGA, but when you're done with the grand slam, could you also try 16M for me, please? I'm really interested to see If those can do 7m30s ;) Thanks in advance Tom :toast:
10-02-2005, 11:59 AM
Tom Holck

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Originally Posted by MickeyMouse

why the non modded pi version? ;) Im sure others are thinking the same, but awsome max clocks for just a cascade :)

Congrats Tom :)

Thanks MickeyMouse
:toast:
Have installed the mod-1.4 version
10-02-2005, 12:11 PM
bachus_anonym

Tom, is there any chance you can repost here those cascade photos that are attached at Tweak.dk... Once can't see them unless registered there :( Thanks!
10-02-2005, 12:18 PM
afireinside

I want to see the cascade to :D Is it a three stager? Loaded temps?
10-02-2005, 12:20 PM
Tom Holck

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bachus_anonym

Tom, is there any chance you can repost here those cascade photos that are attached at Tweak.dk... Once can't see them unless registered there :( Thanks!

Here you are:
10-02-2005, 12:24 PM
afireinside

Holy crap I remember that massive insulation on the evap :lol: Wheres the hold down?
10-02-2005, 12:24 PM
Alex08

i've never seen so much insulation on a cpu before :woot:
10-02-2005, 12:25 PM
AH^DK

Afi --> Two stage with pure R1150 Ethylene in second stage.
One of the worlds strongest cascades :D

Nice going Tom.
10-02-2005, 12:27 PM
GOESA

I just love reading about your cascade Tom

Good one. And good luck with the pi times!! :toast: :slobber:

/Grau
10-02-2005, 12:27 PM
fredyama

Welcome back to the action Tom, the king of SuperPI, from all the members of Team Japan :toast:
10-02-2005, 12:28 PM
afireinside

Very awesome :toast:

I see you're using a 7800GTX I believe... Try it with a PCI card :D
10-02-2005, 12:29 PM
Tom Holck

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It's a 2 stage but I think the best ever made :D

going sub -120 at full load. That means a FX or a 670 going 2volt+ 64 Bit OS system. I can take more than 250 wat at that load.
10-02-2005, 12:29 PM
AH^DK

Quote:

Originally Posted by GOESA

I just love reading about your cascade Tom

Good one. And good luck with the pi times!! :toast: :slobber:

/Grau

Yup, the build, looks, performance and size of it is stunning. HUGE one.
10-02-2005, 12:34 PM
Tom Holck

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Originally Posted by PRTeamJapan

Welcome back to the action Tom, the king of SuperPI, from all the members of Team Japan :toast:

Thanks :toast:

Yesteday I have made a nice M32 at 18:29 and was going to post in Japan. But then I saw OMEGA's results at 17:51 :slobber:
I whent back to try some more Pi aktion
10-02-2005, 12:34 PM
afireinside

WOW! That looks awesome! What size compressors? Home made evap? IIRC you said you had some medical refrigeration engineers help you build it? -120C loaded on a two stage beats the living crap out of every cascade I've ever seen :slobber:
10-02-2005, 12:43 PM
rick_fx

Really impressive cascade you've got there Tom! :slobber:
10-02-2005, 12:49 PM
AH^DK

Its home build Evap head, the first one used a Prommie head but if I recall correctly Tom said that the later ones wasnt top grade quality.
10-02-2005, 12:53 PM
Tom Holck

Quote:

Originally Posted by afireinside

WOW! That looks awesome! What size compressors? Home made evap? IIRC you said you had some medical refrigeration engineers help you build it? -120C loaded on a two stage beats the living crap out of every cascade I've ever seen :slobber:

It's two 18" compressors. We first build a "small" one with 15" to make some test :D
The main thing was to get below -50 degree at first stage, with a massive load af more than 1000W. Then the R1150 can be put to work. The engineers that helped me, said that this was better than going 3 stage. Then I made the coolinghead. We first used a modde Prommy head in the small 15".
10-02-2005, 12:54 PM
AH^DK

Tom, do you still have the Prototype one? Wasnt it -118c it hit or something like it?
10-02-2005, 12:56 PM
Tom Holck

Quote:

Originally Posted by AH^DK

Its home build Evap head, the first one used a Prommie head but if I recall correctly Tom said that the later ones wasnt top grade quality.

Right the prommy head at the erly March I was nice, later they was dropping
in quality.

Yes AH^DK I still have the prototype look at picture 0017
10-02-2005, 12:57 PM
afireinside

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Holck

It's two 18" compressors. We first build a "small" one with 15" to make some test :D
The main thing was to get below -50 degree at first stage, with a massive load af more than 1000W. Then the R1150 can be put to work. The engineers that helped me, said that this was better than going 3 stage. Then I made the coolinghead. We first used a modde Prommy head in the small 15".

Yeah. -50c seems to be the magic singlestage/first stage temp to get :D Whats 18" mean? What HP rating?
10-02-2005, 01:00 PM
SoF

Quote:

Originally Posted by AH^DK

Its home build Evap head, the first one used a Prommie head but if I recall correctly Tom said that the later ones wasnt top grade quality.

prommi head isn't something you can use for a cascade...mine gets freezed at only -55°C on my modded one and I think tom really needs this phat insulation.
i had to give it a +2cm of armaflex until it was cooling without giving me water all over the evap.
this is professional extreme style...high quality test setup with impressive temps.
this must have took you A LOT time but it was worth it :toast:
i think you can use this instead of ln2...doesn't matter what you take imo - it just won't bring alot...compare to team japan's ln2 runs...it's not that far away even they still hold the WRs....i wish you all the best for the WR's...just run RAM maxed out and get the records back to europe :woot:
10-02-2005, 01:00 PM
Tom Holck

Quote:

Originally Posted by afireinside

Yeah. -50c seems to be the magic singlestage/first stage temp to get :D Whats 18" mean? What HP rating?

Yes, from Danfoss in Denmark, they make some nice one.
On the prototype I used freon on first stage. Now it's R507.

thanks SoF
:toast:
10-02-2005, 01:03 PM
AH^DK

Tom, do you remember what my FX-55 hit under load at 3550mhz or over if you used it in it?

Mig der er Alex fra Tweak :)
10-02-2005, 01:23 PM
Tom Holck

Quote:

Originally Posted by AH^DK

Tom, do you remember what my FX-55 hit under load at 3550mhz or over if you used it in it?

Mig der er Alex fra Tweak :)

The Cascade can take your FX-55 to 3730 mhz this gave the first 22 sek in SuperPi

http://www16.big.or.jp/~bunnywk/superpi.html

The record still stands.

FX-57 can bench at 3850-3900 Mhz but the memkontroller going below 200 FSB within 5 minutes when the temp drop. And after 10 min it won't boot.
10-02-2005, 01:45 PM
Vincentvega18

YOUR CASCADE IS TRYING TO EAT THE BOARD!!! seriousy nice results though, and good luck on all the world records.
10-02-2005, 04:39 PM
[XC] moddolicous

Really Nice Tom. Cant wait for the 32m record to go below 17:50.
10-02-2005, 08:20 PM
AH^DK

Nice thanks Tom.

Yup still waiting with anticipation to see some 32M Action.
10-02-2005, 11:29 PM
mr_knowitall15

wow thats freaking awesome! I like the pic that shows another unit attached to the video card. Methinks its time for some 3d along with the Pi! :woot:
10-03-2005, 01:05 AM
massman

i love that kind of cascade :)
10-03-2005, 06:03 AM
\Karting_freak

thats crazy!
show us some 3d benchies!
10-03-2005, 06:14 AM
Supertim0r

AWESOME ! :eek:
10-03-2005, 07:14 AM
hipro5

Ha,ha,ha.......You are AWESOME my friend Tom.......Here's one on me..... :D :toast:
10-03-2005, 08:29 AM
Razzz

This is great, nice work there Tom
10-03-2005, 08:39 AM
MaSell

I wanna see spi 4M and 16M action :)

Great Cascade.... :slobber:
10-03-2005, 01:52 PM
Tom Holck

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Originally Posted by hipro5

Ha,ha,ha.......You are AWESOME my friend Tom.......Here's one on me..... :D :toast:

Thanks hipro5, nice to hear from you :toast:

Just made M8 WR going 3:12 at 7288 mhz

The memory tweak is almost as fun as "old dayes" you remember we tweaked every hz and timings out of it.

Now the Corsair goes 4:5 , 383 at 3-4-4-3 "only" 2.5 volt.....But they don't like volt.

On the other picture I have some mosfets "moving around"! the bord get hot here going 2 volt on the CPU for longer time.
:explode2:
10-03-2005, 02:34 PM
AKURA

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Holck

Thanks hipro5, nice to hear from you :toast:

Just made M8 WR going 3:12 at 7288 mhz

The memory tweak is almost as fun as "old dayes" you remember we tweaked every hz and timings out of it.

Now the Corsair goes 4:5 , 383 at 3-4-4-3 "only" 2.5 volt.....But they don't like volt.

On the other picture I have some mosfets "moving around"! the bord get hot here going 2 volt on the CPU for longer time.
:explode2:

Tom, That mosfet literally moved next to that other mosfet there. :slobber: That's insane! :D Did you positioned it back, or left it like that for the mean time. ;)
10-03-2005, 10:16 PM
hipro5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Holck

Thanks hipro5, nice to hear from you :toast:

Just made M8 WR going 3:12 at 7288 mhz

The memory tweak is almost as fun as "old dayes" you remember we tweaked every hz and timings out of it.

Now the Corsair goes 4:5 , 383 at 3-4-4-3 "only" 2.5 volt.....But they don't like volt.

On the other picture I have some mosfets "moving around"! the bord get hot here going 2 volt on the CPU for longer time.
:explode2:

Heh,heh........Mos-Fet went down in that photo....... :D
10-04-2005, 03:54 PM
Verdict

Nice job Tom
about 4 months i haved 32m record, but now you get it nice job :cool:
10-05-2005, 12:22 AM
Tom Holck

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verdict

Nice job Tom
about 4 months i haved 32m record, but now you get it nice job :cool:

Thanks Verdict, yes your M32 was outstanding.
I haven't uploaded my 18.29 I am close to make a nice one around 17:15 / 17:25
the 670 can pas 7 Ghz in M32 :cool:
But the Mobo is a little unstable, can't take the load for so long. The Mosfets have to stay in place... They move around. :rolleyes:
Got a new mobo today for backup.
10-05-2005, 02:41 AM
Pejsen

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Holck

The Mosfets have to stay in place... They move around. :rolleyes:

LOL stupid mosfet's :slap:
10-05-2005, 03:22 AM
Jort

cool them?
10-05-2005, 03:59 AM
SoF

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jort

cool them?

i think he did so with blowing fans :rolleyes:

thats insane - mosfets running away muhahaha
can't remember ever seen this before ^^
10-05-2005, 05:41 AM
Jort

i mean put heatsink on it or something. maybe cascade cool them ?^^
10-05-2005, 06:16 AM
vapb400

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Holck

LOL

My cascade is better than LN2.

Se the results with FX53 / FX55 and now the 670

I'll come up with some more picture. Right now going for the "grand slam" Wr in M1, M8 and M32 :D

How is that the case? How can a -120 be better than -196?

Sorry im a n00b :stick:
10-05-2005, 06:24 AM
2fink

Quote:

Originally Posted by vapb400

How is that the case? How can a -120 be better than -196?

Sorry im a n00b :stick:

maybe the chips cant handle -170° but runs best at about -100°C under load. (like cold-bug on amd, but with deeper temperatures)
10-05-2005, 07:21 AM
AH^DK

Because your container will never be able to get -196c on your CPU.

Plus LN2 AFAIK aint that good for cooling versus cascade when talking cooling power.
10-05-2005, 07:27 AM
boblemagnifique

Very Good Job ;)
10-05-2005, 07:37 AM
massman

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2fink

maybe the chips cant handle -170° but runs best at about -100°C under load. (like cold-bug on amd, but with deeper temperatures)

I have never seen that, but maybe it's true.

Tom, try to reach TeamJapan and find out if they have the same problem.

who knows, maybe you just don't have that much luck with your motherboard :(
10-05-2005, 07:43 AM
2fink

Quote:

Originally Posted by massman

I have never seen that, but maybe it's true.

dont know if its true, idea came in my mind after i read about cold-bug in another thread!
10-07-2005, 12:25 PM
Jack

Quote:

Originally Posted by vapb400

How is that the case? How can a -120 be better than -196?

Sorry im a n00b :stick:

at some point cpu will crap out anyway...
if you go below -140 C with P4 Northwoods than your English version of Windows will become chinese :D that's what will happen, aka instability...
10-09-2005, 08:17 AM
Tom Holck

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The Mosfet's soldered back in place :D

I have forgotten how "pain in t..." the M32 was.

Here finaly new WR.

17:14 the speed 7085 Mhz
10-09-2005, 08:22 AM
nachthymnen

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Holck

The Mosfet's soldered back in place :D

I have forgotten how "pain in t..." the M32 was.

Here finaly new WR.

17:14 the speed 7085 Mhz

OMG!!! :slobber:
100mhz more than team japan!!! :eek:
10-09-2005, 08:23 AM
Waus-mod

Well this is one hell of a achievement. Everybody plays with ln2 and here we have tom holck pushing the limits further with his uber cascade :D man you are a true legend!
10-09-2005, 08:27 AM
SoF

this is exorbital ^^
close to 16:XX WTH? I'm fighting for getting 23.XX lol I'm sooo slow :D
Seems like the world has a new king :D
all my respect an congratulations to u :toast:

Regards
SoF
10-09-2005, 08:36 AM
Tom Holck

Quote:

Originally Posted by nachthymnen

OMG!!! :slobber:
100mhz more than team japan!!! :eek:

Almost 200 mhz.

The "old" record was at 6905 Mhz

http://holicho.lib.net/pi3355/pi3355.htm
10-09-2005, 08:42 AM
2fink

:toast: great results!!! congratualtions from germany!
10-09-2005, 08:42 AM
nachthymnen

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Holck

Almost 200 mhz.

The "old" record was at 6905 Mhz

http://holicho.lib.net/pi3355/pi3355.htm

Ops!!! :slobber: :slobber: :slobber:
Absolutely incredible!!!
Tom are you under cascade or LN2?
10-09-2005, 09:08 AM
jumanji969

Hot damn that's a lotta volts for a 90nm chip! Awesome job, totally xtreme.
10-09-2005, 09:33 AM
Mr. K6

Holy crap that is incredible, 16 min. seems right around the corner now :slobber:
Absolutely wonderful job :woot:
10-09-2005, 10:17 AM
fredyama

Congratulations Tom on your new modPI1.4 32M WR from all the members of Team Japan :toast:
10-09-2005, 10:37 AM
esdee

congratulations tom!!!
That is an awsome chip you have there!( yeah the cascade looks good too ;) )

as for your cascade, do you remember what the temprature was like in smart guardian during your FX57 runs?
10-09-2005, 10:41 AM
IvanAndreevich

I wish there would be a 64-bit version of SuperPi. It would give 64-bit CPUs a huge advantage
10-09-2005, 12:38 PM
metro.cl

incredible

:toast: :toast: :toast:
10-09-2005, 01:22 PM
Mathias-K

Haha, the great dane is on it again ;)
10-09-2005, 01:33 PM
skate2snow

OMG Tom! After each of your breaks you always come back to blow those Pi records!!! Impresses me every damn time! :)

Are you gonna play with AMD a little? I wouldnt :P
10-09-2005, 01:44 PM
Jort

Nice going Tom, you are a true legend!

i think teamjapan is benching again ^^
10-09-2005, 01:50 PM
kamongear

Very nice work. Keep it coming.
10-09-2005, 03:04 PM
|SiLA|

oh yeah :banana: show to those japanese the european style :toast:

:woot:

well done :clap:
10-09-2005, 03:35 PM
[XC] moddolicous

Really nice Job tom. When 7.1 32m stable coming??? What the highest u can run SPI 1m?
10-09-2005, 03:47 PM
Welz

Tom is the man!
10-09-2005, 10:56 PM
Tom Holck

Quote:

Originally Posted by MickeyMouse

Damm Tom!!
almost 16min time frame :)
which windows ya runing 32bit or 64bit?

64 bit is outstanding for M32, but it "heat" more than 32 bit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by esdee

congratulations tom!!!
That is an awsome chip you have there!( yeah the cascade looks good too ;) )

as for your cascade, do you remember what the temprature was like in smart guardian during your FX57 runs?

The load is almost the same FX 2V+ and 670 also at 2 volt. The Cascade can hold the temp stable at -120/-125 degree.

Quote:

Originally Posted by moddolicous

Really nice Job tom. When 7.1 32m stable coming??? What the highest u can run SPI 1m?

It's around 73xx Mhz but it's still 17 sek. To take 16 sek the chip has to go around 7500 mhz. I can't do that :D
10-10-2005, 12:14 AM
Charles Wirth

Grats my friend on a brutal bench over 7Ghz :toast:

I like the cascade over LN2 as well, getting too cold is a problem with smithfield and some N0 cores and it is a pain to empty the res of LN2 and warm up on when power is cycled.
10-10-2005, 12:16 AM
Vapor

Incredible man!! Good ol' cascade power you got there, keep up the good work!! :D

:toast: :clap: :toast:
10-10-2005, 02:30 AM
esdee

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Holck

The load is almost the same FX 2V+ and 670 also at 2 volt. The Cascade can hold the temp stable at -120/-125 degree.

this must be the evaporator temprature...
any idea what where the tempratures @ software monitors ?
10-10-2005, 02:38 AM
Tom Holck

Quote:

Originally Posted by esdee

this must be the evaporator temprature...
any idea what where the tempratures @ software monitors ?

The Pentium is "hot" in software +121.5 degree ;)
I'm sure it "burns" ;)
10-10-2005, 03:46 AM
|SiLA|

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Holck

The Pentium is "hot" in software +121.5 degree ;)
I'm sure it "burns" ;)

jup jup and smoking too :D
10-10-2005, 07:49 AM
cpulloverclock

I'm asking why with u win2k3 64bit is better than 32bit
I tested and it was bad with spi
10-10-2005, 10:18 PM
IvanAndreevich

Maybe has something to do with the memory limit / process in XP 32-bit? Not sure how much RAM SPI32M can use

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