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09-29-2005, 09:52 PM
Millyons

Any GTO/GTO2 > 16 pipelines results yet?

I noticed on techpowerup some ppl modded the Sapphire GTO2 to 16pipes with high result rate, and some even modded the Connect3D GTO to 16pipes, does anyone else have succes/faliure experience with those or other make off GTOs
09-29-2005, 11:07 PM
cirthix

the sapphire gto2 is a 16 pipeline card from stock. it is by far the best card for the money right now.
09-29-2005, 11:54 PM
Millyons

Quote:

Originally Posted by cirthix

the sapphire gto2 is a 16 pipeline card from stock. it is by far the best card for the money right now.

no that was wrong information, its 12p stock, its the only one that supposely is garantied to work with 16p
09-29-2005, 11:57 PM
onethreehill

Hexus.net got it to run @ 16 pipes

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=1636
09-30-2005, 12:11 AM
Millyons

but is there anyone with them, i know about the websites that had them im wondering what the retail ones do.......the GTO mostly since some seem moddabe, and all GTO2 seem moddable
09-30-2005, 06:04 AM
HousERaT

seems like no one is in a hurry to gamble on these cards.... however newegg raised their price by $20 on their GTO2s.... now they're selling for $219 :(
09-30-2005, 08:42 AM
Ebola

I have been heared than Connect3D' GTO is unlockable to 16pp
09-30-2005, 08:50 AM
Millyons

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebola

I have been heared than Connect3D' GTO is unlockable to 16pp

same here thats why im wondering about different companies also....
09-30-2005, 09:17 AM
Drow

Where did you hear this rumor?
Connect3D GTO: Unlockable to 16pp. Good!
But what's with the clock rate of the GPU and the clock rate of the memory of the card?
How high can he/she clock it? On X850XT PE-clock rates? That would be very nice. :bounces:
09-30-2005, 09:27 AM
Ebola

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drow

Where did you hear this rumor?
Connect3D GTO: Unlockable to 16pp. Good!
But what's with the clock rate of the GPU and the clock rate of the memory of the card?
How high can he/she clock it? On X850XT PE-clock rates? That would be very nice. :bounces:

From Muropaketi, reported by members of techpowerup

but the cards seems less overclockable than the GTO, it can't achieve XT clocks
09-30-2005, 10:07 AM
aMp

From what I've heard the GTO2 is a limited product run meant to get rid of excess R480 inventory, which is why Sapphire doesn't list the product on its own site. (Two other GTO cards are listed.) Of course that's just forum "wisdom." God only knows what ATI is up to these days.

I'm seriously thinking of pulling the trigger on this one, if I can get ~$150 for my X800 XL. According to the sites doing the mod, they've had a 100 percent success rate so far.

-aMp-
09-30-2005, 10:22 AM
Supertim0r

I'm waiting mine (GTO²)...
10-01-2005, 09:43 PM
einCe

m picking one up to, they are all almost guaranteed to unlock 16 pipes and reach xtpe speeds with no artifacts on air. these will be the cards to crossfire with. i may be picking up two for later
10-03-2005, 05:48 AM
Malachia

but at stock what are the differences between gto and gto2?
10-03-2005, 05:54 AM
Vapor

Core speed I think.
10-03-2005, 06:04 AM
Malachia

the difference is only at unlokable pipes from bios, frequencies are the same, 400/490 :)
10-03-2005, 06:14 AM
Vapor

Cool....good to know. I thought I saw a GTO2 at 500/490 but I'm starting to think that was something else now ;)
10-03-2005, 07:53 AM
Welz

The connect3D 3038 Radeon X800GTO Is only $175 at the egg right now, if you enter the promo code "X800GTO" you can get -$10
thats $180 taxed, and shipped... Im extremely temped, just hope its got the right core in there to unlock to 16pipes... Ive been comparing the saphire GTO2 and the pcb's are identical...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814142052
10-03-2005, 08:19 AM
afireinside

So the x800GTO is the same thing as an x850xt if it unlocks? I hear the ram is the same as well? Could I take down somw x850s with one modded under DI? :D
10-03-2005, 08:22 AM
Ugly n Grey

Who is selling the GTO2?
10-03-2005, 08:22 AM
Vapor

You certainly could AFI...I'd spend the extra money on the GTO2 though, 100% guarantee of unlocking ;)

The Egg has them on backorder....not sure of any places for Canada though, sorry.
10-03-2005, 08:33 AM
LowRun

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ugly n Grey

Who is selling the GTO2?

Sapphire
10-03-2005, 09:16 AM
Welz

So ive come the the conclusion the the only difference between saphire and connect3d is the core? and you would need to score one with r480 or else there will be no extra pipes to unlock?
10-04-2005, 10:28 AM
^don.k's^

I have a X800GTO², unlocked the 4 pipes successfully, OC'ed to 600/600 with stock cooling/volts. OS show it like a X850 Series after unlocking, as X800GTO before. It cost me 230€ + shipping, a x850XT is at over 350€ at least... :p:
10-04-2005, 10:31 AM
gundamit

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ugly n Grey

Who is selling the GTO2?

Ewiz for $204.
10-04-2005, 12:54 PM
TEDY

item not found.
10-04-2005, 03:51 PM
BlackPearl

I got GTO2 yesterday (from Newegg) and it unlocked easily with bios flash. The included Sapphire TRIXX utility detected 511/563 on the medium "performance" mode and I've completed multiple stable runs of 3D03/05, VST at 520/560 with no visible problems, but ATITool's artifact scan gets hits every second or so, even at stock speeds (I'm not sure what that's about).
10-07-2005, 12:37 PM
l3ored

anyone who got theirs allready are a bunch of lucky bastards, newegg raised the price to 300, so its no longer the stellar deal it once was. :(
10-07-2005, 01:56 PM
Aleman

Quote:

Originally Posted by l3ored

anyone who got theirs allready are a bunch of lucky bastards, newegg raised the price to 300, so its no longer the stellar deal it once was. :(

Hahhahahaha OMG!!! hahahaha i know where 2 get GTO2's cheap cheap ;)!.
10-07-2005, 01:57 PM
Vapor

Could you post it in the deals thread? I'm sure more than a few readers would be interested.
10-07-2005, 01:58 PM
WesM63

Mine should be here monday or tues. Results soon after.

(The opty should be in around the same time, gonna be a fun week next week :) )
10-07-2005, 02:14 PM
Aleman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vapor

Could you post it in the deals thread? I'm sure more than a few readers would be interested.

Well, lets say I dont have a spear one, i just know in which online site you could buy it.
10-07-2005, 02:17 PM
Vapor

That's what the deals section is for....linking to online deals.
10-07-2005, 06:22 PM
einCe

just onlocked my gto2 to 16 full pipes and its now clocked at 564/630. imma go do an 05 run now and hope for 7k edit 6600 on stock cooler, no ac5, just 300 points below my 7800gt that died from heat exahaustion. these things are great :D
10-07-2005, 06:45 PM
NickS

I think alll the GTO's with the PCI-Express power connector's are R480.

Can someone share the BIOS they're using? I wanna do this to my card, look @ my sig.

I wonder how risky this is, I'd flip :banana::banana::banana::banana: if I killed a brand new card. :mad:

Is there any safer way, ie. Software Modding like nVidia card's and RivaTuner? I could have swore there was.. :confused:
10-07-2005, 07:27 PM
einCe

heres the unlocked gto bios http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/....Samsung16.bin
10-07-2005, 07:46 PM
NickS

Thanks :bounce: :S
10-07-2005, 08:04 PM
Supertim0r

I'll try a X850XT PE bios when I'll know how my card OC :D
10-07-2005, 08:06 PM
NickS

Lol, aight.

I'm just not comfortable w/BIOS flashing, that's all.
10-07-2005, 08:09 PM
einCe

follow thisw guide http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/.../vidcard/127/2
i had never done a flash before and it was easy after reading this
10-07-2005, 08:12 PM
WesM63

Nick,
Look here, it tells you exactly what to look for in ATItool to tell if your card is unlockable or not. The GTO's don't have quite as high of a success rate as the GTO2's do.

http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/...ng/vidcard/127

Edit: einCe types faster than I do.
10-07-2005, 08:16 PM
NickS

Lol, thnx guy's.

I know how to flash BIOS'. I modded my old 6800's BIOS to give me 1.4v vCore. I only kept it that way temporarily to see what I cld squeeze out of it but, I'm not a total nub ;).

Hehe. Anyway, I'll read over that guide a few times. Thnx for the linkage. I've never flashed an ATi card before, but I've modded 2 BIOS' (one modding by HEX, another with NiBitor) and flashed for nVidia's.
10-07-2005, 08:32 PM
WesM63

Sorry, didn't want to sound like you where a n00b, but just that your card might not be moddable. The SS of ATI tool tells you what to look for is all I was getting at.
10-07-2005, 08:59 PM
NickS

Lol, no problem. That's why I had the winky face. ;).
10-07-2005, 09:50 PM
aMp

OK, I'm going out of my goddamn mind here. Got my GTO2, and it works stock, but....

I've flashed mainboard BIOSes, created boot disks out the wazoo, and slipstreamed SP2 into a WinXP install...but now I can't create a functional :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing (yes, it's worth the bananas I'm so pissed) bootable CD containing the FlashROM utility. And needless to say, I'm one of the geniuses who said "bah, who needs a floppy these days?"

Using Nero 6 Ultimate's bootable CD dialog, I end up with a bootable CD that freezes my system and says this:

EMM386: Warning! Address line A20 already enabled.

I've googled that, and now I'm more confused than ever. Apparently in the BIOS there should be an A20 or Turbo Switch option to enable/disable -- but not in the DFI 704-2BT there isn't, at least not that I can find.

So next I tried creating a boot disk according to this guy's method, and ended up with a CD that says something along the lines of "ROOT FAT GO!" and promptly freezes. (I'm not kidding. It really says that. Even the exclamation point.)

So obviously I'm retarded, or maybe I just need to do this stuff sometime when I've slept in the last 36 hours.

Any advice before I take a crowbar to my rig?

-aMp-

p.s. Results to follow. :p:
10-07-2005, 11:47 PM
einCe

thats why i dug my old floppy out of the dresser, its got no casing and half a button lol
10-08-2005, 12:37 AM
dqniel

does anybody know if the agp version of the x800gto2 will mod 100% of the time?
10-08-2005, 04:53 AM
TEDY

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aleman

Well, lets say I dont have a spear one, i just know in which online site you could buy it.

you have to tell us !!! :slapass:
10-08-2005, 05:24 AM
WesM63

The places that still has them:

www.edazz.com $255
www.allstarshop.com $259
www.atacom.com $219
10-08-2005, 05:48 AM
Z YA LTR

I got one up to 661/625 WIth vgpu v mod.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1296110

--Josh
10-08-2005, 07:32 AM
leejsmith

if any one in the uk wants one they have the gto2 in stock at overclockers.co.uk on special this week £129+ vat
wish i had pci-e i would have one of these
10-08-2005, 08:18 AM
Supertim0r

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z YA LTR

I got one up to 661/625 WIth vgpu v mod.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1296110

--Josh

What kind of overclock w/o vmod ? :eek:
10-08-2005, 01:32 PM
Z YA LTR

It did 580/645 with 12 pipes. Then when I did the flash It would do 570/640. The more I get the core up, the more the mem has to be brought down. I havent done the vdd vmod yet though. I dont have a 20k vr.

--Josh
10-08-2005, 01:59 PM
WesM63

:slobber:

I'll be happy with the stock X850xt clocks
10-08-2005, 02:01 PM
NickS

Same here, since im not very lucky, OC'ing & Modding wise. I seem to get the crappy OC'ers and the parts that dont mod. lol. :rolleyes:
10-08-2005, 09:39 PM
einCe

i need a vgpu mod it seems "locked" at 570/630. god i remember why i love ati, that bull:banana::banana::banana::banana: 7800gto helped me realize it
:D
10-09-2005, 08:16 AM
K.I.T.T.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z YA LTR

It did 580/645 with 12 pipes. Then when I did the flash It would do 570/640. The more I get the core up, the more the mem has to be brought down. I havent done the vdd vmod yet though. I dont have a 20k vr.

--Josh

You on air cooling or water? Im ordering one of these bad boys in the next 3 days, so watch out!! :D :D :D
10-09-2005, 10:42 AM
NickS

Mm I'm SO excited to get mine now. It's ordered, I wish Monday wasn't a Holiday, I WANT MY CARD ><
10-09-2005, 10:45 AM
ZX7891

just ordered an X800GTO2
10-09-2005, 11:15 AM
WesM63

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickS

Mm I'm SO excited to get mine now. It's ordered, I wish Monday wasn't a Holiday, I WANT MY CARD ><

Oh crap.. I forgot monday was a holiday grr.. Now I have to wait till tues :(
10-09-2005, 12:06 PM
NickS

Haha, me too :(...possibly wednesday.
10-09-2005, 03:53 PM
Welz

Dang, these things are looking sweet...
10-09-2005, 10:33 PM
TEDY

getting it these week :)
10-09-2005, 11:12 PM
Aleman

Me getting it also this week :)
10-10-2005, 12:05 AM
Vassili

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z YA LTR

I got one up to 661/625 WIth vgpu v mod.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1296110

--Josh

Which Vmod did you use on you're GTO2?
10-10-2005, 09:01 AM
MeTsU

Damn, I'm stuck. If I buy now, I won't be able to use my card until beginning of Dec (when I arrive back in South Africa) where my rig is. I'm in the U.K until end of Nov. What should I do? Buy now, or wait until mid Nov? I know that the special at Overclockers UK will have finished and also, there might not be anymore stock left, or will there? Could it get cheaper by then?

What do you guys reckon I should do? :confused:
10-10-2005, 09:47 AM
K.I.T.T.

December? You gotta be joking!! there were only 500 odd shipped to Europe. They'll all be sold out by the end of this month i think - demand is THAT high.
10-10-2005, 09:51 AM
NickS

Yeah, at least 20 or more people have prolly bought GTO's from this forum, alone, and counting :O.
10-10-2005, 09:56 AM
WesM63

My eta is wed.. 0_o can't wait.

FYI, The list of current retails that have the card AFAIK:
www.atacom.com $229
www.edazz.com $246
www.allstarshop.com $253
www.axiontech.com (ETA tomorrow) $210
10-10-2005, 11:25 AM
K.I.T.T.

Ordered now!! :woot: Mine should come on Wednesday :banana:

Prepare to get pwned!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
10-10-2005, 12:18 PM
Damien

Just ordered my connect3d GTO, I will show results whenever it gets here =)
10-10-2005, 01:04 PM
WesM63

I'll have some results tonight. I got a lil suprise. I was told it wouldn't be here till wed, but lookie what I have :D

http://www.needmoreboost.com/wes/x800.jpg
10-10-2005, 01:55 PM
BlackPearl

I received my replacement today for my first GTO2 which I returned because it would not pass ATITool artifact checker even at default speed (though it performed and oc'ed ok). The replacement passes artifact test and benches at 540/620 while unlocked. It will probably go higher, but even if it doesn't I'm satisfied with the performance.
10-10-2005, 02:16 PM
K.I.T.T.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WesM63

I'll have some results tonight. I got a lil suprise. I was told it wouldn't be here till wed, but lookie what I have :D

http://www.needmoreboost.com/wes/x800.jpg

You lucky bar steward!! :p:

Post some benchies!! :D :toast:
10-10-2005, 02:50 PM
Damien

I'll check my card before doing anything when I receive it, but if it happens to be R480

1. Do those modded GTO2 bios work on the regular GTO?
2. If not, is there a guide to flash Connect3D GTOs?
10-10-2005, 03:43 PM
NickS

Yeah I'm very concerned with BIOS choice. I have a Connect3D Coming, can I flash it with the modded Sapphire GTO2 BIOS?
10-10-2005, 03:46 PM
Ostate21

Man if I only had a PCI-X board I would order one of these! Damn AGP lol. :p:
10-10-2005, 03:50 PM
LexDiamonds

Nicks, as far as I know, youll have to pull the heatsink and check to see if you got a R480 core or not, If so, I believe the mod process is the same. The thing with the Saphire is it is just a guarenteed r480 core.
10-10-2005, 03:55 PM
Millyons

no even with r480 cores some cards cant be unlocked, the only GTO non GTO2 that i heard of that can unlock is the Connect3D
10-10-2005, 04:08 PM
NickS

Quote:

Originally Posted by LexDiamonds

Nicks, as far as I know, youll have to pull the heatsink and check to see if you got a R480 core or not, If so, I believe the mod process is the same. The thing with the Saphire is it is just a guarenteed r480 core.

MM, nope. :) Check this out!

Quote:

Originally Posted by techpowerup![/quote

Is my card moddable?
I added this section, since so many people ask "can I mod my card?".

* Download and install ATITool
* Hold down the shift key and click on "settings"
* Now scroll to the bottom of the list, you should see four new values listed. (The screenshot here is from an X850 XT PE)

http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/...ages/fuses.gif

Only the red marked numbers are of interest here. If you do not have F for the red numbers, your card can not be modded.

Original Link: http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/...ng/vidcard/127
10-10-2005, 06:34 PM
WesM63

Hopefully i'll have some results soon. I'm working with afireinside right now to see if i can get my cpu to overclock. (never played with the DFI or the TCCD I have)
10-10-2005, 06:56 PM
jumanji969

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ostate21

Man if I only had a PCI-X board I would order one of these! Damn AGP lol. :p:

Even though you are from Ohio...I'll help
10-10-2005, 07:00 PM
LexDiamonds

Wes, did the card at least mod with no issues?
10-10-2005, 07:19 PM
WesM63

Quote:

Originally Posted by LexDiamonds

Wes, did the card at least mod with no issues?

Still working on it, the 6600gt is still in while i play with CPU. Finally got things ironed out with that.. getting ready to flash now.
10-10-2005, 07:23 PM
Supertim0r

x800 gto2 card run cool ? :confused:
10-10-2005, 08:40 PM
WesM63

This card rocks!!

Flashed with no issues, i did have to force the flash but it works.

ATI tool shows 16active pipelines, running 3D05 now at 520/540 :D

Best $235 i've ever spent!

Screens to follow....

EDIT:
Here are the screens, i'm just going to link them cause they are fairly large (1600x1200). Both ss, where done at 520/540. I'm going to try 540/590 then head to bed. More tomorrow.

http://www.needmoreboost.com/wes/x800stockcpu.jpg
http://www.needmoreboost.com/wes/x800023cpu.jpg
10-10-2005, 09:36 PM
einCe

comparing to my experience youll hit 540/590 no problem, my if i clock up to 570 core though my system hangs so lets see what you get :D

Quote:

x800 gto2 card run cool ?

i idle 34c and 55c under load with some ac5 on it
10-10-2005, 09:39 PM
WesM63

hehe.. this is fun :)

Last one for tonight:
http://www.needmoreboost.com/wes/x800pe23.jpg

I tried 600/600 and did a 3D01 nature run, it was about to finish then crashed with a vpu recover. So i'm sure it'll do somewhere between 540-600 ;)

Eince,
Similar temps here.
10-10-2005, 09:44 PM
LexDiamonds

600/600 is what I am going to shoot for with my gto2. :stick: Using the stock cooling or something else Wes?
10-10-2005, 09:58 PM
TinTin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supertim0r

x800 gto2 card run cool ? :confused:

around 40deg.C idle, and about 60deg. C full load (rm temp: 28deg.C, naked case), all are stock :D
I feel some warm air spreads out :fact:
10-10-2005, 10:20 PM
WesM63

Quote:

Originally Posted by LexDiamonds

Using the stock cooling or something else Wes?

Yes, stock cooling for now.
10-10-2005, 11:29 PM
einCe

i got JUST under 7k in 3dmark with 564/600 with the x800 mem timings in this forum. i envy those who can go up to and past 570, could it be that i have a bad clocker?

*edit* noticed i put the wrong core speed haha
10-11-2005, 02:43 AM
NickS

Awe, NT einCe. My goal is at least 4500 in 2005 :D.
10-11-2005, 04:31 AM
Ostate21

Quote:

Originally Posted by jumanji969

Even though you are from Ohio...I'll help

Hey don't dog Ohio lol! Any ways I thought that only the PCI-X ones are the only ones that can be unlocked. Or am I wrong? :confused:
10-11-2005, 06:13 AM
TEDY

I might get it tomorrow or friday...wes63: can you tell me exactly how did you flashed it.....in PM please ;)
10-11-2005, 07:30 AM
WesM63

Tedy,
YGPM.

I'm going to start playing more here soon ;) I want 7k 3d05
10-12-2005, 07:26 AM
K.I.T.T.

what drivers are you using? ati catalyst 5.9? is this the control panel version or control centre one? also, is ati tool a seperate program? just installed mine, and need to download drivers.
10-12-2005, 07:58 AM
WesM63

KITT,
I do not really know what drivers, whatever came on the sapphire disc (i'm on dial up). ATI tool is a seperate program that you can get here :
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=725

Good Luck.
10-12-2005, 08:56 AM
TEDY

Default clock is 400/980 right ?

and for X850XT is 500/540 ?
10-12-2005, 09:00 AM
K.I.T.T.

Mine has unlocked sucessfully, and is so far happy at 575/600 :)

Get 6555 3dmarks in 3d mark 2005 :D

I'm not finished yet, this thing has more in it.

*Heads off to OC some more :D*

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