All right, Thanks to DDTUNG I picked up a 8RDA today. I just did a chipset mod. What Bios is the hot item before I put this in the Prometeia and do some Overclocking??
Thanks,
OPP
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All right, Thanks to DDTUNG I picked up a 8RDA today. I just did a chipset mod. What Bios is the hot item before I put this in the Prometeia and do some Overclocking??
Thanks,
OPP
It seems the new C31 is doing great things for everyone. Grab it @ http://www.epox.com.tw/file/8RDA2C31.BIN. Its for the 8RDA+ btw, not sure if you got a 8RDA or 8RDA+.
Anyway I cant wait to see how you do on this thing :)
I don't think this is a plus mobo. Will it still work??
OPP
Unfortunatly, no :(. Taken from EPoX's 8RDA FAQ:
So I'd just recommend using the only BIOS out there for non-plus boards (besides stock one,Quote:
BIOS flash problems.
Our Nvidia based motherboards use a different style of BIOS chips than our other products. To successfully flash the BIOS you will need AWDFLASH.EXE v8.22a or newer. Older flash tools will corrupt the BIOS and leave the board dead. Please ensure to only download BIOS updates for our boards from an official EPoX website. Please note BIOS update files are not interchangeable between the EP-8RDA and EP-8RDA+.
http://www.epox.com/html/motherboard...4xE33On2T2r3n2
Edit: ftp://ftp.epox.com/motherboard/suppo...S/8RD12C16.exe - Seems the non-direct link doesnt work :rolleyes:
OPP, I think C16 is the latest for the 8RDA standard.
SKATAN has wpcredit tweaks that seem to work well with C16, or so I hear.
Cant wait to see you bench 3d @ 225 FSB :D
TodB
Opp I don't know if those will work on the non + or not. That was taken from the thread 8RDA+ vs. NFS-7, who's the champ. I can't get into theQuote:
You just need the c16 bios or even the c27 ( very new ) BIOS.... can give you some links If ya want
AOA forums they must be having problems with their server.
Anyone know how long it takes him to get things all set up? I want to find what the EPOX can do with OPPAINTER style cooling! But will it happen tonight or will we have to wait until tomorrow for some results?
OPP, i'd go for the C27 BIOS. I've hosted it here, along with the WinFlash utility (saves you booting to a disk, and 5 minutes to flash the bastard). Load up default settings, get into windows, flash, and reboot.
http://bravo.ausgamers.com/Epox/c27.rar
I've found it to be faster with the benchmarks then C31, and its probably on par with C16 (couldnt be bothered flashing back that far).
Well I just had it set up on a test bench, CPU, mem, Vidcard, floppy.
I have 1.8V right now for the chipset, the NB gets very hot. I'll set it up tomorrow, I need to rig up my watercooling loop for the NB. After flashing to the C16 I got all the multipliers, I also booted up to 230Mhz, of coarse this was just booting, have to see tomorrow what she will do in Windows:D
OPP
Crap, dont flash to my BIOS.
Forgot about the + :/
I'll check out all the bios stuff when it's running.
OPP
Don't try to max out your cpu with the original bios!Quote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
I'll check out all the bios stuff when it's running.
OPP
It completly hosed my bios chip.
uhh...what is a chipset mod?
People have used the non + BIOS in the past with the + motherboard and it works, except you lose the + features like sound.
Not sure if it works the other way around though.
Good luck with your tests. As you will have tested Epox and Abit boards it will be interesting to hear your views on both.
Regards
Andy
Why didn't you get the "+" version?Quote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
I'll check out all the bios stuff when it's running.
OPP
Anyway you should try with the latest c16 from the EPoX site, but I'm kindda sure that you got it allready on that board:
http://www.epox.nl/BIOS/8RD12C16.zip
Also put some serious cooling on both chips - MCP-T and the northbridge SPP...
you can use all bios version + or not i flashed also non + bios versions on my 8rda+, so it should be no problem!!!
use 2c31 if you can it solves some multiplier issues ...multiplier 13,5 and 14 were not so stable with other bios version so try 2c31;)
if your machine doesn't boot up and peep or awdflash or something come up on boot, shut off ...hold insert key and boot up and there you are;)
hm go opp go ;) plz tell me how the hyperx is doin' on the 8rda... wanna buy such a stick too :)
my 2nd corsair doesn't do 225 @ 2.86v.. so only single channel at the moment
Well the day of reckoning is here.
Go Opp Go
Hes our man
Well Newegg has the non + back in stock I may pick up one later, if has good results.
that should be a crazy system opp water cooling and prometia and i dont even know what you do to your gpu but i am sure it is awesome also!
Somewhat OT, but is there any difference between the 8rda and 8rda+ other than the integrated lan and 6 (vs. 2) channel sound?
They should both OC the same, shouldn't they?
BrainStorm, that's a good question. I'm also wondering which southbridge do they use? It can't be the MCP-T because that has 2 LAN and Soundstorm.... Wonder if that will make a big difference?
Yeah, thats the only differences I'm aware of. So they *should* oc the same :)
Well I'm up and running, I can't get my Camara progy working or I'd put up some pictures, I have the NorthBridge water cooled, it's running well right now at 210x13. I haven't gone up more yet. I can say the 3D scores, no Card Overclock, look pretty good. I just hope the I can keep going up with the FSB.
OPP
Svenn, according to Anandtech the 8rda+ does use the MCP-T, just doesn't implement Soundstorm or second lan. I think Asus is the only manufacturer who has implemented both lans.Quote:
Originally posted by Svenn
BrainStorm, that's a good question. I'm also wondering which southbridge do they use? It can't be the MCP-T because that has 2 LAN and Soundstorm.... Wonder if that will make a big difference?
Anandtech link: http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.html?i=1759&p=17
and OPP, sorry, didn't mean to hijack your thread...I'll shut up and wait for your results now ;)
hmmm...look what happened while I was busy editing my post...:)
OPP, how long before you really start cranking it up?
Hey,
Any wpcredit tweaks to get the Idle temps (halt) down on this thing??
Thanks,
OPP
I have about an hour I think before I start to really bench 3D.Quote:
Originally posted by BrainStorm
hmmm...look what happened while I was busy editing my post...:)
OPP, how long before you really start cranking it up?
OPP
With my HyperX and 8RDA+ I can bench 3d at 226FSB 4-2-2-2...But only with 10x multipler, I'm sure you can run that high and with a multi of like 12.5x, which would yield veyr nice scores :DQuote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
I just hope the I can keep going up with the FSB.
OPP
See everyone around 6:00 or so CST...:DQuote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
I have about an hour I think before I start to really bench 3D.
OPP
OPP, could you quote your required Vdd as you keep going up in fsb. Just curious what you'll need for Vdd to complete your 3D with a watercooled NB...Quote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
I have about an hour I think before I start to really bench 3D.
OPP
Thanks.. :D
Well i'm rock solid at at 215 right now, I will need about 500 more point's to make a 21000 3D run.Quote:
Originally posted by AKRedneck
OPP, could you quote your required Vdd as you keep going up in fsb. Just curious what you'll need for Vdd to complete your 3D with a watercooled NB...
Thanks.. :D
Some cooling action.
OPP
What's the best bios? C16 or the new C31?
What's your AGP?
Opp, compared to NF7, which one is faster clock for clock ?
Thanks :)
Well Im not Opp but I beleive the NF7 is faster clock for clock, in 3D anyway :). But the voltage isnt as good as the epox goes to 2.2VCore, and the high FSB-end doesnt have as many adjustments (like, 100-200 in 1 increments, above that its different points like 210 215 237, but i dunno the specifics)
Opp,
Keep up the good work :thumbsup:
Are you going for the vdimm mod too at some stage? as I take it your maxed out at 2.9 in bios with that 2.86?
make the vdd mod opp!!!
bevore my max stable dual channel fsb was 215, now i'm @ 225 and going;)
But rev. 1.0 only up to 1.9 V is usable!Quote:
epox goes to 2.2VCore,
I'm stable now at 13x220, 5-2-2 timings, agp is at 1.8.
To get here I had to up the VDD to 1.89 from 1.8.
I'm useing the C16, and I havn't done a mem mod yet.
How high do you guys go with the VDD voltage??
OPP
I had my VDD at 1.92v with the stupid stock heatisnk with a fan blowing accross...I could feel it get warm but nothing too serious at all :)Quote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
I'm stable now at 13x220, 5-2-2 timings, agp is at 1.8.
To get here I had to up the VDD to 1.89 from 1.8.
I'm useing the C16, and I havn't done a mem mod yet.
How high do you guys go with the VDD voltage??
OPP
OPP I wouldn't go much higher than this, 1.9V maybe.
DDTUNG:cool:
Yea I was thinking that.Quote:
Originally posted by DDTUNG
OPP I wouldn't go much higher than this, 1.9V maybe.
DDTUNG:cool:
I'm at 223 now, I have to test it for 3D.
OPP
Vdd of 2.0v here.. No problems so far after a couple days.. Nothing glowing.. Had to do this to get 3d runs at 220. And my NB is aircooled. I think it's hot but 'o well', it works!..Quote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
.. How high do you guys go with the VDD voltage??..
OPP
We know your not scared OPP..lol! :D
I think i saw some one in the VoltMod forum who managed to melt a chip running a 2.0vdd.
From what i've heard 1.9vdd is about the best.
TAKE CAUTION - I AM A n00b
Opp,
What does the MBM high/ low screen look like after a 3dmark run?
2.9ghz and 223FSB! Man I thought 12.5 multiplier would be hard but that should turn out great, better than the NF7 me thinks ;)
This is certainly getting interesting...hope it's stable enough for 3D :)
I'd love to see you get it up another few MHz. Try and grab the #1 spot for AMD :banana:
Looking good man. You should be able to push that processor to 2.15v easily. Mine handles it no problem with straight water. I'd like to see you post a 3g score on AMD 13.5x223 mmm . :toast::slobber:
I'd really like to hear about those 8rda+ wpcredit tweaks. Anything yet to fix the under 10 mulitplier issue killing mem bandwidth?
man opp thats crazy! 3ghz is not far off!
I ran into some problems, my radeon doesn't want to Overclock at 220 and up. I can do maybe 5 tests before a blue screen or reboot, its the Radeon Overclock doing it. I have to figuer somthing out because I'm getting some outradgeosly high runs, if I could only make it through :D
OPP
Opp, COOL THOSE MOSFETS!! 8-)
What chip was it, exactly, that blew at 1.95v or whatever it was for that guy? Maybe some cooling for it might help? If its that hot at that speed, it must be hot at lower speeds, too?
EDIT
Would better cooling of the power regulation area of the R9700 Pro help? Theres already cooling on it, but its just a plate.. 8-/
Nice Job As usual...Quote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
I ran into some problems, my radeon doesn't want to Overclock at 220 and up. I can do maybe 5 tests before a blue screen or reboot, its the Radeon Overclock doing it. I have to figuer somthing out because I'm getting some outradgeosly high runs, if I could only make it through :D
OPP
But OPP...
That does not make sense... The AGP Buss is locked, and the FSB should not affect the card. Is that not right?
Maybe try manually selecting 66MHz...
RoydRage
I believe it was the lack on the 5V line, very weak. I turned it up but now my 12V is running like 13V :D Oh well. The card is clocking well at 219. Here's a tease, the next one will be for my buddy DJ :D
EPOS POWER
Go OPP, GO!
:toast: :toast: :banana: :banana: :toast: :toast:
DDTUNG:cool:
I spy a spelling error! 8-)
man am I bored.. 8-/
EDIT
Someone donate Opp a non-crippled 9700pro 8-)
oh yeah, baby! GO OPP GO!!!
omg.. its been 20 mins and opp hasnt made a new post..
!!! 8-)
The suspense is killing me, lol 8-)
EDIT
20.. darn clock on puter is 8 mins slow.. 8-)
Give her hell my friend:thumbsup:
Looking like you'll be taking your friend down very easily indeed..along wth your own latest Intel score:toast:
Onwards and upwards !!
Randi:D
Hehe, I noticed that he just un-published his previous AMD score from the ORB, just as I went to look at the details. Must be something better going up...:D
Absolutely fantastic work OPP!!! :toast: :toast: :toast: GO! GO!
i just put the NF7 back up :DQuote:
Originally posted by MrLavender
Hehe, I noticed that he just un-published his previous AMD score from the ORB, just as I went to look at the details. Must be something better going up...:D
Absolutely fantastic work OPP!!! :toast: :toast: :toast: GO! GO!
For some odd reason the Orb won't let me publish these new Epox benches. I have to find out whats going on.
OPP
Holy ****.
Damn what a score. :thumbsup:
The ORB wont publish it? Others have had the same issue, I think it sees your FSB speed and determines it to be a fake. Remember awhile back when they wouldn't allow 4 GHz Intel scores?
I wonder if there are errors being introduced at these clock speeds?
But if there were, that wouldnt make sense, because the P4 would do it, too..
You should take a set of PSU's and wire them together, opp 8-)
AAAAAAARRRRGGGHHH!!!!!Quote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
i just put the NF7 back up :D
For some odd reason the Orb won't let me publish these new Epox benches. I have to find out whats going on.
OPP
The suspense is killing me! :D
I know there's a thread in here somewhere about problems at the Orb publishing high FSB scores on Epox boards...anyone seen what I'm remebering and know where to read about it? Thought I saw something where someone had a workaround...time to start searching...
Holy Testical Tuesday!!!!
Check it out, it is reporting the wrong clock speed. The Active one was just done at 2859Mhz and the first one was done at 13mhz less. I guess the orb or the mobo will need a fix if we are going to put the Epox on top :D All you Epox Gurus need to ask mad Oinion what the problem is with my scores. I have to keep going while I'm on a roll:D
OPP
Well even though it doesnt say so on the orb lookin at that you are #4 in the world and you have a AMD!!!!!!!!!
CONGRATS!
Wasn't the fix, to save the file then go to submit file and select the saved file?
Too bad that 23k one isnt at 1024, lol 8-)
3Dmark has a hard time reading CPU speeds for some reason...
Take a look at my thing.. its detected as like 1.6 and im actually running 1.66... 8-/
EDIT
Yeah, try "submit saved result"... I always do it that way and have never had a problem yet..
EDIT 2
It shows correctly on the orb.. 8-/ Not in 3DMark2k1, though..
EDIT 3
I cant get on there either.. checking again right now.. no workies.. 8-(
Is this the thread you mean? Don't see any fix in there. :(Quote:
Originally posted by BrainStorm
I know there's a thread in here somewhere about problems at the Orb publishing high FSB scores on Epox boards...anyone seen what I'm remebering and know where to read about it? Thought I saw something where someone had a workaround...time to start searching...
*edit* There is a link in that thread to another on the Futuremark forum, but I can't seem to get onto any part of their site except the ORB. :confused:
could the orb being down have somthing to do with this
MrLavender...that was one of the threads...but I also seem to recall, now that Nico mentions it, that the supposed fix was to save and then submit, but it looks like OPP has already saved, but just can't submit.Quote:
Originally posted by MrLavender
Is this the thread you mean? Don't see any fix in there. :(
*edit* There is a link in that thread to another on the Futuremark forum, but I can't seem to get onto any part of their site except the ORB. :confused:
Unless OPP tried to submit it first, couldn't, and then saved it, and needs to try resubmitting now that he's saved it!
OPP, have you tried submitting after you saved?
EDIT: See my next post for a somewhat better statement of all this :rolleyes:
Orb is up...
Rest of madonion/futuremark is down...
I think I have had 5 consecutive heart attacks waiting for opp to drop JC with a 23k score.. 8-)
Run a 640x480 and give us a pic, opp 8-)
EDIT
What vcore are you using? I thought you got this thing to try and pull 3166, heh 8-)
As you can see from his previous post, it's already in his project manager, just wrong cpu speed. This happens to me often, especially with pcmark.
EDIT: my bad, publish, not submit.....doh!:eek:
Actually, my last post was somewhat confusing on the submit vs. publish aspect. I think the supposed fix was to save before submitting, and then submit the saved file, as Nico suggests.Quote:
Originally posted by SPQQKY
As you can see from his previous post, it's already in his project manager, just wrong cpu speed. This happens to me often, especially with pcmark.
EDIT: my bad, publish, not submit.....doh!:eek:
What it looks like is that OPP has submitted, but can't publish since there doesn't appear to be a check box for publishing.
OPP, did you save the project before you submitted it? If so, maybe you can resubmit the saved project (don't know whether you'd have to delete the original submission first or not).
Sweeeet! i just read through this all.... GO OPP! :toast:
Not to wish JC bad or anything, but i would LOVE to see AMD on the top for 3dmark...
OPP:)
I have had the same trouble with the NF7-S the last 2 days. I adapted the Ti4200 volt mod to the ABIT Siluro Ti4200 OTES, which is a physically different card from the other Ti4200's..and have been doing R+D on the NF7-S on air.Every 3rd or 4th submission to the ORB couldn't be published. All CPU and card clocks were consistent from test to test...no rational reason for the scores being s*hit-canned.
There is definitely something with these nForce2 boards that are giving the ORB fits...or maybe more correctly, the 3Dmark2001 software..as it's the software detecting clock speeds, card clocks etc, etc. Keep plugging away my friend...just an outstanding job:)
Randi:D
Well, hopefully, that means they're doin' some serious updating. ;) Go OPP, show the EPoX non-believers, and take #1 while you're at it. :DQuote:
Originally posted by STEvil
Orb is up...
Rest of madonion/futuremark is down...
darn right! epoxs' rock!Quote:
Originally posted by spaceman
Well, hopefully, that means they're doin' some serious updating. ;) Go OPP, show the EPoX non-believers, and take #1 while you're at it. :D
I've saved and then submited and sent the result straight, and they both come up with no check box. I see the problem, it's the CPU speed is incorrect so the ORB is thinking it's a Fraud :D
Anyway, this epox has some problems, I can't use core voltage over 2.075, if I do I can't get into Windows. So there goes my 2900 Mhz plus 3d benches. Just can't get a nForce to work right around here, sure does some nice 3D though:D
OPP
first of all, GJ OPP:)
i think they're preparing ORB for new 3dmark, my friends:)
i also had problems with publishing scores with Asus A7N8X and Asus Ti4200 AGP 8X. I think it's not nForce itself messing up with ORB but AGP 8X on these mobos... well, just my opinion.
OPP,
keep your setup rolling for new 3dmark2003:D
I think a 5v mod may be in order... 8-/
Are we topping out the nForce? 8-)
Se Ya DJ , heh heh :D :banana:
Got ya with a little old AMD chip :D
Thanks DDTUNG ;)
OPP
Can't publish this either, it is the right Mhz though.
Deja vu.
DDTUNG:cool:
Its been way to long:DQuote:
Originally posted by DDTUNG
Deja vu.
DDTUNG:cool:
OPP
WOW! Congrats OPP! That's kicking *ss and taking names! :toast:
Now if you can just figure out how to get the Orb to publish it :rolleyes:
Yea, somebody get me a e-mail, this score has to published.Quote:
Originally posted by BrainStorm
WOW! Congrats OPP! That's kicking *ss and taking names! :toast:
Now if we can just figure out how to get the Orb to publish it :rolleyes:
This was done on a old second hand OS, went straight from my NF7 to this mobo. I would predict takeing down Holicho by the end of the week with a clean install and a little figuering out the mobo. Maybe when I flash the bios and put in a new OS and it will somehow fix the Orb problem.
OPP
Let's hope so! Well, have a good night. It's getting kinda late here in Dallas, but thanks for the late night entertainment. ;)
And congrats once more...terrific job!
OPP,
did you save the project and then tried to publish it, or you hit publish right after you did 3dmark run? damn, even ORB is Intel biased, lol:D
Need more fsb...! 8-)
Heres some more FSB:)
And Quad, I did both methods, nothing works.
OPP
OPP, what timings are you running?Quote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
Heres some more FSB:)....
On my 3D runs I was at 4-2-2- CL2, on the post above it was like 7-2-2- CL2.
OPP
Well, I'm running 3-2-2 at the moment, approx same fsb as your runs.. I haven't seen any increase in sandra going from 4 to 3, however I haven't had time to check the diff in 3d. Apparently it makes a difference.
Yeah.. bed time.. !
8-) Gonna log on tomarrow afternoon and have this thread be 9 pages long... damn. lol 8-)
Great job on those bench scores. Do you think closing all the L11 bridges will give you more volts on those boards? I know it helps to get higher volts on most epox board if you give the cpu 1.85v by default. I'm sure you will figure it out soon enough.