Please post your week/steppin code and the lowest evap. temp it can boot/load windows @stock and what cooling / memory type and size.
Also, the highest htt scaled @ teh lowest temp.
Thanks :toast:
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Please post your week/steppin code and the lowest evap. temp it can boot/load windows @stock and what cooling / memory type and size.
Also, the highest htt scaled @ teh lowest temp.
Thanks :toast:
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Heres mine...0516WPMW - 1241482E503XX benched @3.75Ghz @-86/85C load temp. with Redline4000 2x512 @ 221x17. Htt >222....it will freeze at -92C on windows...
http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/1...shot0094kt.jpg
http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/1...shot0109zl.jpg
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but you just gave your batch code # which is going to be different for every cpu. I think Dumo's looking mainly for the numbers which precede the last 4 digits which identifies the wafer number. Of course there also may be a chance that your wafer # is 50572 in which case I'd be just wasting thread space :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by MickeyMouse
0513mpmw avail locally... WHAT is so good about it??
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GET IT JON!!!! It's a beast...... ;) There's very, very few around.....mind PM'ing me the store?Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
yhpm
jon
i will get new CABCE 0516WPMW very soon and try it out with DI (higher than -90 :| )
but we can guess that it will be like all of the 0516..
dumo i remember that some fxs 57 that run with ln2, that supposed to be lower then -90.
If I'm not mistaken, 57 first week batch was 0512 then 0513 which went to both fx55BN (core that wont cut 57 specs) and 57 second week batch.
Cupra, most of 57 ran ok @-90C, but with really low htt(maxed @ 219 for my 0516). To be able to run it with >255 htt, evaporator temp can't go below -78.9C. Or we can use acpi multi proc. tweak, but it will be a little 'heat load heavy' for even a cascade.
Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
Does it need to be an FX? i have seen a few 0512MPMW's...bought one myself.
an 0513mpmw ended on eBay for $816... helluva deal.
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yep, see that one charlieQuote:
Originally Posted by charlie
i get 0516 on ebay for 950$, and other 0516 sold for 990$ :toast:
Funny thing was that the seller replied it was a retail cpu while all the FX57's from that week are OEM. However, there ARE retail FX55 's with that stepping ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie
that is very simple, he jest put the oem cpu in retail box :DQuote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
but to be serious, the low price of that 0513 cpu was strange - for me anyway, and i find some retail 0516 for 950$ and take it.
That's a good deal for your cpu....I'm still waiting on a cherry picked one from a "friend" ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by cupra
back when i got my retail FX-57 they had both 0513 MPMW oems and retail cpus in OZ, as well as 0516 WPMW retail which i decided onQuote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
Retail 0513MPMW 57's?Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
I just sold my 0513 MPMW FX57....guess its too late now, but whats so great about that CPU? I have no cascade so I could care less about some magical -90C cold bug or not...
yup i had to make a choice and chose 0516 WPMW :)Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
Any 0512 owner? Hows it runnin?
Thanks :toast:
I have a 0512.... :D
Care to give it a shot? I have never tried it out...
I have FX57 (0513MPMW) and FX55 (0512UPAW) CPUs. With Dry Ice I'm able to run FX57 @ 3622 MHz (Heat spreader off) but I haven't been able to run it in 3D above 3650 MHz even with LN2.
Damn, I need a cascade to test CPUs :cool:
PS. I'm looking for FX CPU which can do +3800 MHz with LN2 :)
Hey Sampsa try getting one from´s Kinc´s store .
It owns that fx .
Good Luck with that search
I think Kinc 0512 haven't the coldbug...someone confirm this...
0516 WPMW. mem used was BH-5 Mushkin 3500 lvl 2 (2 x 256).Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
Cooled by:GT/R507/Baker
http://img320.imageshack.us/img320/9...core4uj.th.gif
This was taken after 3D 01 runs.
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/441...1run9xg.th.gif
I love to get an newer revision mousepot and run my FX 57 on it.
This cpu has been great, not to jinx it. :p:
Imo, all FX57 cold bugged (no higher than 230HTT) when run @ <-85C evap. temp. or equal to-50/-60C cpu core temp. Some peeps can do 250-260 htt with controlling the idle temp.... which is hard with cascade...Quote:
Originally Posted by Supertim0r
Just curious what do you know about CABCE?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=6817105638
Also I have never bought a CPU on ebay. Can I trust this guy for it to be factory sealed and never opened. I do not want to buy something that was already overclocked by someone or used.
He is selling 5 of them so maybe he bought them in bulk or they fell off the truck or something. I doubt he would buy 5 of them and test each in OC and sell. Thats too Xtreme for someones wallet.
According to his feedback the cpus are really factory sealed
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP...id=pepecepillo
VERY NICE PROCESSOR! BRAND NEW, FACTORY SEALED AS PROMISED! SAVED ME $200 THANKS
Buyer soadlink ( 64) Oct-27-05 22:29 6809987955
Heres CABCE 0516...Quote:
Originally Posted by CrashOv3r1De
Have to torture the 57, so evap. temp not less than -97C (less and screen literally freezz).... :D
Check the vcore :)
http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/6...shot0264zz.jpg
http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/5...shot0523zn.jpg
Cant you drop MAL and RP one?
(sorry for OT)
I have a week 32 FX57 here.
It is completely worthless after -40C.
OPP
Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
That is still better than my 0531 rpmw, not even boot@ -5c:D
I think we get to live with it :) ..Until FX60?Quote:
Originally Posted by Onepagebook
I have now FX-57 0528 MPMW here. I'll try it under LN2 during this weekend. I've always had very bad luck with the Athlon 64 FX CPUs, lets hope that will change this time! :)
Ever think it's your cooling thats holding you back?
That guy sold 8 FX-57's already. I am buying one from him hope it goes for $850!
No :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by ZX7891
Jason AKA mickeymouse says you're wrong...he says your containers are old and outdated
so tempted to quote that line...... must resist.....
I've got a 0528 GPMW like Sampsa, so far on DI with an aluminum mousepot it's
been fine booting at -70C (Fluke 52II) and no HTT problems as of yet. I'd love
to hear how LN2 goes on this stepping. No idea how it will do colder than -70C
until Sampsa tries I guess. ;)
http://www.jpop.com/gocchin/gocchin22675.png
http://www.jpop.com/gocchin/gocchin2011.png
http://www.jpop.com/gocchin/cpuz44887.jpg
http://www.jpop.com/gocchin/cpuz45123.jpg
So far steppings that cold bugged @-90C to -99C evap temp (or -50/60ish cpu core) are..
CABCE 0512(T), 0513(N), 0516(N), 0522(T)
CABNE 0528(N), 0530(N)
With no bug at all...
CABYE 0524(T)
Opteron150 CABNE 0528(N)
Avoid these steppings if you plan to use phase..
ALL CAB2E (0530, 31, 32, 33)
I guess this old thread still relevant......even with no FX59...
Hey Dumo so my fx57 0522 xpmw is good for up to -75 is that right??
I am planning on building a cascade before too long and was just curious
ZX7891, Jason says alot of things. Not all of them are true. And if you will recal Sampsa is one of the worlds greatest overclockers. I think he knows a thing or two about cooling. Possibly even three things, but for modesty's sake lets keep it to two. ;) :rolleyes:
John, any chance that Stephen is running like a madman over to the Frys on Canoga to drop 1000 dollars on a cpu ;)?
In terms of week numbers, would this apply to all San Diego cores?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
You have to try it with cascade fatty:) I think with the right heat load it will be go high:)Quote:
Originally Posted by fatty
Most likely.Quote:
Originally Posted by stone_cold_Jimi
I beg to differ about the CABCE 0512's. IMO, it's about as cold-bugged as OPB's CABYE 0524 (Which does BTW, HAVE a bug ;) ). Last night, njkid tested an 0512 on a chilly cascade. @ -58C Core temps in windows, the cpu ran fine @ ~14x265ish. While my autocascade doesn't quite get as cold as a standard cascade, I can run these settings relatively easily - evap temps ~-75C idle, -69C load....Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/2086/471qx.jpg
Need a cascade to test mine grrrrrr may have to add some gas to my ss to get lower load temps :)
Fatty, I believe this is 0522XPMW with Dry Ice @-75C evap. temp done by Mickey Mouse...Quote:
Originally Posted by fatty
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5158/213pf.jpg
Please apply more voltage ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/6149/14x2651hd.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by G H Z
Better? ;) BTW, the cpu only can take up to 1.74Vcore Max.....
You can try 1.76V @ 227X17;)Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
0516 cold buggwed big time @-89.99C:( Maxed @277
Oops...I meant 227
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/7...shot0594py.jpg
Why do 227x17 when I can run 250x15? :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/1979/15x2501m5vg.jpg
EDIT: OOPS, you edited your post....I thought 227x17= ~3750...disregard my spi run then lol.....
Anyone have a source or sources for any FX-57s that don't have the cold bug steppings? I'll take anything besides 0530, 0531, 0532, 0533.....
CABNE 0530 APMW with ser# Y95XXXX is less problem with cold bug and also can scale high Mhz. On the other hand CAB2E 0530 VPMW is the one that cold bugged big time.Quote:
Originally Posted by wkmgt
One thing though... cold bug is very dependent on individual cpu of same stepping too from my old experience with winchesters. I once got 3 cpus of same stepping with few serial numbers off and they showed widely different patterns of not booting up at different temp (even for single stage...) was worst time for phase changer in budget. I am sure same applies to FX-57 too.
I just received a 0532 MPMW and it's bugged -- big time. :( RMA, Bye Bye......
I'd wait for the FX-60 but it sounds like those are going to have the cold bug as well. If anyone has an FX-57, with good steppings, who is looking for a buyer, I'll take it!!:D
Hehehe - good luck getting a RMA'd cpu with no cold-bug. AFAIK, all the cpu's in RMA reserve are CAB2E = cold-bug. I may be letting go of my 0512 in a bit and I'll get in touch with you if I do ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by wkmgt
Please do. I'm getting a refund -- not another CAB2E CPU.....Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
http://www.jpop.com/gocchin/0516.jpg
I'm still trying to work my way around the cold bug characteristics of my
0516... Definitely cannot cold boot with base temps colder than -60C (Fluke
52II). After a few bench sessions I may be off about my max HTT @ -65 to
-75C or so... I thought I could not go over 255HTT which rendered my 14x multi
useless but that may not be the case... I do want to test more but I have a "nice"
dual core arriving that will be going under ice for 3D benching this weekend
with my GTX 512's so for now I only have the initial results from my intial
session with this cpu:
With 1.76v -70.5C idle, -68C load:
http://www.jpop.com/gocchin/gocchin1941.png
Then what I thought was my max htt at 255 cause anything higher would
result in a non stop beep from the computer forcing me to manually restart,
hence the digicam pic instead of screen cap:
http://www.jpop.com/gocchin/gocchin22258.jpg
Nice results gocchin
Thanks Ivan, hope I can tighten things up like formyfaith's timings, when I switch to the Expert board (as long as it doesn't kill my cpu ;) haha)Quote:
Originally Posted by IvanAndreevich
Nice 0516 there Gocchin:toast: ...Did you try with ACPI multi yet?
B/way thi is one interesting info @ one those auction site, I guess some of those seller really know about the items taht they're selling:)
http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/3...shot0911js.jpg
If the ser# on those 0530APMW is Y95XXX then he's right.
I just got this Opty150 CABNE 0528GPMW that has a problem with its multiplier hardcoded, it shows as 182 with 11x multi max. So far no significance cold bug problem @-98.5C evap. temp or -63C cpu temp.
Heres a comparo with FX57 0516....
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8...teron210ed.jpg
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/9...teron229zs.jpg
Ah, that's (was) dogsx2's bugged Opteron 150
Yep, its on its way to 500 cpumark and 3.8Ghz:) I play a guessing game.... which one it will boot with.....182 or 150.Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_fx
Almost 1.4Ghz overclock...not bad. I hope the same with any 0528GPMW FX57 with the right heat load.
http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/8...shot0930im.jpg
If someone have an good FX-57 that works good with CO2 above +3.6GHz, please PM me, have money to buy it from you today:fact:
CO2 ? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dani
Maybe he meant DI.Quote:
Originally Posted by biohead
I have a Cabne 0528GPMW FX-57, same as your 150 Dumo. does 3600 on a LS, and 3500mhz on an old Mach 1 bench stable :)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=84953
Co2 cascade.Quote:
Originally Posted by biohead
Sorry guys, I mean DryIce=CO2:rolleyes:
I may have a source on some 0530 FX-57's.
Waiting to hear back from the guy. If the steppings are gooood....rut roh.
After this Opty 150, I am seriously thinking to get Opty 154....as an FX57 alternative..
If anyone here is looking to sell an Fx-57 with a cold bug, cheap, let me know. I'm looking for an FX-57 to watercool. Key word cheap. Don't care if IHS is removed, as long as it works.
Guys...just use pm for any trade info:)
Anyway the reason I think that Opty 154 will work ok. with xtreme temp is ....
Heres the start of Opty 150 with a "little" cold bug...Evap@105:)
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/6...shot0993gp.jpg
CPU core temp. in bios...-64C
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/6...shot1002wn.jpg
Set up in bios....
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/3...shot1010vg.jpg
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/9...shot1025bi.jpg
It booted in windows @-94/-59C in bios..
Then...start benching @-86/84C evap. temp.
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/3...shot1039do.jpg
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/9...shot1048nu.jpg
Ordered Opteron154 from Egg:) ..Hope it will fly like this 150...
Awesome, good luck DUMO. My 150 doesnt have cold bug either, although I only have a peuny single stage heh heh.
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Dumo, clear out some of your PMs. Your box is full bro. :doh:
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Done:)
Roger that, thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
Back on topic....In a few days, I'm gonna receive the cpu which I consider the Holy Grail of all AMD cpu's :woot: :
http://www.cryo-laboratory.com/uploa...%20154/154.JPG
Too bad I won't be able to get it into the -100's :p:
Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
Surprises me that you dont own a cascade, honestly.
But with your auto it will run with less temp swing (load<>idle) @ high vcore:toast:...Thats better than an instant -105C evap..Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
I don't own one by choice ;) My feeling is why be like everyone else when you can have something unique yet sufficient for most intents and purposes. It also helped that AMD was starting to release cold-bugged cpu's and an autocascade would put the chips @ a temp which was idealQuote:
Originally Posted by Hell-Fire
You're right - but tbh, and autocascade isn't designed like that. Usually autos have more of a deltaT than multi-compressor cascades. The reason why mine holds a load so well is that we haven't even begun to challenge the capacity of this unit. Chilly1 says it's possible to tune this unit to HOLD @ -110C temps :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
Its the way of the future....less cold, more load stable cascade:)
Only the masters can tune it right.
Don't forget that it's Energy Star Efficient too! lol....(well at least it only uses one compressor).....Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
I am using my FX57 with Vapochill LS stock and at -50 degrees evap. temperature and -25 degrees cpu. There's minor coldbug at these degrees and it doesn't boot up above 310 mhz fsb and I haven't tried with lower temperatures. I am willing to give it a go with some Ln2 setup of my friends.
It has a good stepping as much as I heard from here. It's CABNE 0530 APMW
Don't know how it behaves under LN2 , but with DI it had a small :) easy to control coldbug if running > 265-266 HTT , once temps are lower then -45 (actual CPU temps) it goes into blue screen (that's why there's memtest running in background :D )Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozan Baseski
I wish i could test it with LN2 but i can't find a place where i can buy some :(
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/5748/22256qk.th.gif
Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
LOL, if you mean "like everyone else" you are referring to the maybe 5-10% max of the overclockers here that use cascades?
Not diggin' at ya, but I doubt they are that prevelent compared to single stage cooling. There are obviously a ton of them here, but I would say compared to overall member strength the numbers would be relatively small.
I still have tons to learn about how phase change works in general, but are you saying that an autocascade adjusts??
it's sorta a cascade, but with one pump driving multible kinds of gas. iirc, steve's autocascade is actually.. 6 stages? :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hell-Fire
LOL...kinda sorta....Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzimark
Phase change uses COMPRESSORS and not "pumps" :p: Pumps are for watercooling, women, and people with small wee-wee's :eek: LOL
The compressor in my autocascade actually only compresses one gas (or blend of gasses) and in turn that gas cools another gas which cools another gas which cools another gas and so on.....my unit is unique in the sense that it utilizes 6 stages in which 2 different gases are interacting with one another inside of a heat exchanger. That allows the unit the ability to condense such gases as R1150 (ethylene, boiling point @ -104c) and R14(Tetrafluoromethane, boiling point @ -128C) which on a normal single stage would be impossible because of the pressures necessary to do so. I'm FAR from grasping the concept behind an autocascade, but you know it's complicated when Chilly1 says that he "has no clue what's happening in the heat exchanger area" of my unit and is offering a trade of a true cascade for my auto so he can take it apart and analyze it :p: Basically it does the work of a dual compressor cascade with just one compressor.....
@ Hellfire: When I say "like everyone else", I'm referring to people who use phase change. Tell me - how many single stages you see around -> A LOT. Now how many dual or triple cascades do you see around -> Enough that you probably can't recall the exact number. So tell me, How many AUTOCASCADES do you know of that are currently up and running and in use? :p: If that's not unique, then I don't know what is :cool:
ANY phase change unit (including single stagers) can be adjustable as long as the right valve is correctly in stalled on it.....;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hell-Fire