4400+ @ 3GHz, STOCK COOLING

It's only a suicide, but impressive, IMO. Voltage was 1.7V (1.55V * 113%) on the stock cooler. There were fans for the RAM and the PWM area, which helped, I'm sure. This 4400+ is generally benchmark stable at around 2.8GHz and 1.6V on the stock cooler, will try to post some screenies of it in action as I only have this validation link for now. It'll be watercooled by mid-week when I get my barbs for my MCW-50, I'm expecting to run at least SOME benchmark at 3GHz then.

For now, here's the validation link...:D

Nice overclock on the stock cooling, are you going to test with better cooling? :D

Yup....have my WC all setup for it, just I decided to wait for my MCW-50's barbs to come in. I'm considering putting it on WC really quickly, just to get a general idea, but I don't want to take it out, install the MCW-50, leaktest and then put it all back in. I just might though...:D

Just be carefull ;) I did the same once, but wanted to do it so quickly that I didn't do the leaktest, one fitting on the CPU block was a bit loose, and the VGA card died because of the water dripping on it :rolleyes:

What's the temp btw with the stock cooling at that voltage?

I know, I've already done a 72hr leaktest on what I have in there now (TDX, heatercore, res, pump), not a single problem. Definitely don't want to have any sort of leakage onto my stuff though and will take my time when the barbs come in.

I've never seen 50C on this cpu under any condition (49C, yes, but not 50C :D). Ambient is 24C or so.

Pretty freaking good man. 2.8 is really only bench stable? Because I've got my single core Venice Prime stable at 2833, and it's only screen stable to around 2966 (both on upgraded air). Though it could be a board limit.

I honestly haven't really tried to get much stable past 2.8GHz, or used much more voltage than 1.55V. I have a feeling my first core can do 2860 or so at high volts (1.65V or so) but my second one will hold me back to 2800 for multithreaded benches. I'll update tomorrow when I test some more.

Remember, while your Venice might only have 133MHz difference between suicide and prime stable, these are two cores and over 2x times the transistors...putting a load on it is a lot more stressful.

You should post your w/c results as soon as you get them, You seem to have a good core (uhm, sorry, good coreS :)) the w/c just HAS to improve then benchable freq!

I kinda wished i kept my DFi board as the max voltage i can get from the A8N SLi Prem is only 1.47v @ 2666MHz :(

Nice VAPOR, i would like to see game stability when your at 3gig with W/C .

so I'm assuming the 4400+ x2 does 2,6ghz+ with stock cooling :)? that's pretty nice considering it's dual core and twice the cash

REBEL: also looking forward to dual 3GHz, but for more things than just gaming of course... (if I only gamed, I woulda gotten an FX)

biohead: yeah, this does 2.75GHz all day. Maybe more as the memory was also maxxed out at that speed when I tested it.

Vapor is it possible for you to post some screens please ?

And some results as soon as you can... :p:

Thanks !

Tonight. :)

UPDATE: having a hell of a time getting my room to cool down (AC was off all day...ugh), will have at least the 3GHz screeny though, promise. 2.8GHz stable is doubtful as my room is a good 7C warmer right now than it was last night (AC was on 'freeze' mode, held 23C ambient with two computers a, a TV and too many lights on in the room :D). Knocking on 30C's door right now...ugh. Barely getting 2.76GHz benchmark stable right now :stick:

Anyway, I'm making that screenie and some max runs my chore for the night.

3GHz screenie!
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/1313/3ghz9ut.jpg

Room finally cooled to 25C, maybe I'll get some 2.8GHz benches in now too.

Alright, 2.8GHz is being a :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: to me (crashed in NATURE of 01...wtf?...shoulda run them separately, allowing the cpu to chill a lil, but w/e)...probably too much voltage, raising temps too much. Don't wanna hurt this baby though so I'm putting off my benchmarking until my WC is all set up and leaktested. I'm hoping to have some 3GHz benchies then for you all...:D

2800Mhz DualCore @ 1.6v with stock cooler, and only 49-50c?? Now that cant be right?

Nice CPU tho .. im thinking of getting one myself. A bit overkill for Counter-strike, leeching and FireFox .. but overkill is nice :D


What stepping?

Take your time we'll be waiting :toast:

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Sure we'll be !!! :toast:

Nice OC man i hope i can get my 4800+ up to round 2.8 24/7 on the water setup i got going....

good luck with yer water

4400+ @ 3 GHz with only 1.600V on water ;)

http://mitglied.lycos.de/xxmartin99/...4RPMW/3000.png

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=28068


all stable results with 2x P95 here
http://mitglied.lycos.de/xxmartin99/..._CCBWE0524RPMW

xxmartin, that's a very nice chip u've got there :)

Vapor, what's the stepping?
XXXMartin, is that stable, and what's the stepping either?

Tia.

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4400+ @ 3 GHz with only 1.600V on water ;)

http://mitglied.lycos.de/xxmartin99/...4RPMW/3000.png

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=28068


all stable results with 2x P95 here
http://mitglied.lycos.de/xxmartin99/..._CCBWE0524RPMW

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ONLY 1.6? :rolleyes: :p:

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ONLY 1.6? :rolleyes: :p:

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"only" with water ... with phase change it would need ~1.4V, I guess. ;)

Looks like a good chip, what stepping? and is it stable at 3.0gig?

Thanks :)

Nice very nice, though unless it's stable mean :banana::banana::banana::banana: all really.

Im sure i could get mine to 2.8ghz with 1.5Vcore, but it wouldn't be stable.

Ive got just 1.365 for 10x261, so beat that on air! :p:

Looks like it's only prime stable through 2.83GHz @<1.55V. Doesn't look like higher voltages have been tested.

Of course, 3 GHz is not stable. Just wanted to show that such suicide screens are nothing special for X2. ;)

With 1.75V I could get up to 3100-3150 MHz for suicide, I think.

Getting past 2860 MHz on water is quite difficult. 2800 MHz 10 hours and more dual-primestable with 1.520V no problem at all. But 40-60 MHz more are limited by the the worse core.

Yeah my cpu volt mod is deff in order this week. Gotta do that :D And mem! :D

I want 310 x 10! hehe

After that 3 GHz suicide, here is something stable with watercooling ... :)

http://mitglied.lycos.de/xxmartin99/...2914@1.648.png

Stepping please?!?

My X2 4400+ is "was" stable at 2950Mhz with 1.77v on Prommi mach 2 GT .
Here is a screeny at 3100Mhz same setup...
nice chip u got there :D ...

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Stepping please?!?

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CCBWE 0524 RPMW

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My X2 4400+ is "was" stable at 2950Mhz with 1.77v on Prommi mach 2 GT .
Here is a screeny at 3100Mhz same setup...
nice chip u got there :D ...

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thx, maybe I'm going to buy a Mach2 GT for this one ;)

2.91GHz... close enough :p

VERY impressive! :)

Wouldn't a Vapo LS Rev 1 be better than a GT? It's a lil warmer but it can take a lot more load (which *might* be a concern with these X2s).

ummm, that's just insane. congrats on awesome chip :)

Welp, I've been testing my WC and it's not a tad better for my OC...

Temps are lower (not sure by how much exactly, room is much hotter and only the load temps are lower, usually by 10C or so). I don't know what is holding me back...but it's pissing me off. I added voltage, nothing, I took away voltage, nothing, I changed the LDT multi to 3x (unable to break 252x11, 277*10, nor 308*9...so I know it's my CPU and not my TCCD [I ran 3-4-4-8 2T timings to be sure, which is WAY loose for my 4800LA]), still nothing.

Anyway, I can run 3D benches at a whopping 20MHz higher now. SPI, Prime, Systool, etc all still crap out at 2770ish.

Believe it or not...I'm considering going back to stock cooling for my CPU just so my 7800GTX can have a colder loop...

I've tried reseating twice (each time I got slightly colder temps) and my OC still won't budge. Could it be my board?

Of note is that 275x10 is COMPLETELY stable for everything I've tried so far at 2.5-3-3-5...wtf? This is about 100MHz higher than air and at less voltage...more aggressive setups have not been tested for utter stability yet.

As good as my 4400+ was on air, it's a bum on water. Before it's 24/7 stability wasn't great but it's top end was while now the 24/7 is great and the top end is only SLIGHTLY better.

Anyway, I'm leaving on a roadtrip Sunday morning so I'll be away from testing and I'll have lots of time to think about it for when I return.

Hiya

I'm kinda a noob @ overclocking,
yesterday I recieved my 4400+ and went OC'n right away :)
but because I don't have a 24 pin PSU I can't get my vdimm higher than 3.2 volt. (my OCZ PC-4000 Gold VX needs 3.3 to run @ 250 FSB)

So my max FSB for the moment is 245 mhz with multiplier x11 = 2700 mhz with 1.55 volts , cas 2-2-2-5

Superpi 1M stable = 31.015 seconds (almost 30 :( )

This is with stock cooling !
Btw half hour ago I was doing some superpi @ 1.6 v and realized I forgot to plug in my CPU fan :slapass:
I was benching superpi @ 2700 mhz @ 1.6 volt on passive stockcooling!
temps were 47° :)
Nice stockcooling AMD has !

offcourse there was a 92mm fan blowen a bit over the heatsink as it also blowing over my memory.

What you guys think?

Looks like you got a decent chip gigolas. :D

These are my scores :
3DMark 01 :31056
3DMark 03 : 18345 ( there was something wrong with my internet at that moment so I couldn't submit the score )
18345
3DMark 05 : 8299
Aquamark 3 : 93899

hi guys, just got my 4400+ today, the chip is CCBWE 0525UPMW. Just wondering if any of you had it, and what was the overclock you were getting with it. I'm still waiting for my PSU and my RAM, so I can't play with it :'( !!!

Take that IHS off and you might hit 3 GHz STABLE

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Take that IHS off and you might hit 3 GHz STABLE

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Man I will be saddened... lol
Mine does 3ghz stable dual prime only with heatspreader off and being cooled to 5c (single phase DD) @ 1.7v.
Mucho heat dump I say, it is blazingly fast at this speed at least though :P

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If I do so, can I still use the stock cooling?

Also, how do we reput the IHS on the cpu, if I have to?

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Also, how do we reput the IHS on the cpu, if I have to?

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It won't be possible :(

ok then, I remember having seen a Danish website link showing how to remove the IHS fromt he CPU on this forum, but can't find the thread, anyone can help?

very nice chip, I'll be looking for same stepping and hoping to get close to the results

for mine 4800+ (brought it from andreyang)
with IHS can do 2.8G @ 1.39 prime95 x2 stable

but without IHS, still can not do 3G @ any voltage stable even single pi 1M.....

very very hard to OC dual core

I remember when 3GHz on a single core was a big deal

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2800Mhz DualCore @ 1.6v with stock cooler, and only 49-50c?? Now that cant be right?

Nice CPU tho .. im thinking of getting one myself. A bit overkill for Counter-strike, leeching and FireFox .. but overkill is nice :D


What stepping?

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Trust me, it's right. My CPU is at 40 degrees celsius stressed on low-noise air cooling (XP-90 + Enermax 92mm at min speed). These dual cores are amazingly cool.

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ok then, I remember having seen a Danish website link showing how to remove the IHS fromt he CPU on this forum, but can't find the thread, anyone can help?

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Yup: Riska's guide at burn-it.dk

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THANK YOU, THAT'S THE ONE!!! Now it's Babelfish time!

I think I'm gonna do this too...

what are the steppings on those chips....lol it seems that budget has caused me to downgrade to a 4400+ and stock cooling untill i get phase

uh guys.... here ya go, no need to babel, heh.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=59068
it's a sticky :P

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Trust me, it's right. My CPU is at 40 degrees celsius stressed on low-noise air cooling (XP-90 + Enermax 92mm at min speed). These dual cores are amazingly cool.

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and what speed/voltage are u running at??

maybe ur talkin about stock, cuz as soon as u start overclocking these things, they get ridiculously hot! on my slk948u running nude (ihs removed) i couldnt get near the same voltage as i did with my single core 3500+

not even CLOSE cuz it got so hot

which is why i have water now ^^


btw, just upgraded from my 4200+ to my current 4400+ which is has the exact same stepping as yours (the OP)

testing stability right now at 2.8ghz with 1.56v

just for comparitive purposes my 4200+ only did 2750 @ 1.623v

would you be able to pass it thru an RMA with some black dye in the artic thermal epoxy, ....or the method chharlie used to put the P4 HS on a dothan?

on a scale 1-10 what are the chances of a 4400+ being 32M and gaming stable at 2.85 ghz running 2GB ballistix??? This would be on a water cooled system(below) and replacing the 6002 with a G4 block.

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2530mhz
1.4V or thereabouts
My chip doesn't OC so well (and I don't feel like removing the IHS, never done it, not gonna do it for the first time on a 500 euro chip)

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on a scale 1-10 what are the chances of a 4400+ being 32M and gaming stable at 2.85 ghz running 2GB ballistix??? This would be on a water cooled system(below) and replacing the 6002 with a G4 block.

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3-5, IMO....mine didn't quite make it there, but I only have a TDX.

Note, mine can't quite pull 2.71 with the IHS on. Mine isn't too bad shabby, not the greatest, but still a good clocking CPU.

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3GHz screenie!
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/1313/3ghz9ut.jpg

Room finally cooled to 25C, maybe I'll get some 2.8GHz benches in now too.

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Curro--->27,562seg<---- A64 X2 4400+@3004,5 Mhz (300,5x10) Wattercooling

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/9298/275628kg.th.jpg

Very nice, what stepping/week?

yeah, week and stepping info would be great!

1.728 core ***sings to self*** burning ring of fire

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on a scale 1-10 what are the chances of a 4400+ being 32M and gaming stable at 2.85 ghz running 2GB ballistix??? This would be on a water cooled system(below) and replacing the 6002 with a G4 block.

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My personal experience says 4. You aren't going for dual prime stable after all nor dual super pi. Single side overclocking experience with X2 shows me 2.8ghz are norms on watercool. So 2.85ghz seems to be quite reachable but hit or miss as usual.

Anyone know if this will be any good for overclocking?

ADA4400AA6CD
CCBWE 0525UPMW
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I hav'nt opened it up yet since i've been tryin to find someone else with the same week and there results on water.

Test it out eclypse :)

Post the results

I got mine on 20c water, next week will be -40c water! :slobber:
Here, here! Don't wanna exceed 1.6v yet the chip doesn't like the 11x multipler, i can do 3.0 @ 1.6 300HTT, yet i can only do 265HTT x11 1.6 :confused: Anyone know what just plain BLUE screens mean, w/ no text on them?

yours is soo nice mate. i hope my 0529 RPMW can do the same!

I am stuck at 2.66Ghz with 1.47v the new BIOS for the A8N was far worse which would only give me the top of 1.37v so could only get to 2.53GHz stable :( So i am stuck with 1006 BIOS inorder to run my processor at 2.66GHz. Disappointed in ASUS i must say.

It seems prolonged use at 2.66Ghz has allowed me to get to 2.7Ghz, games play fine at 2.75GHz however there was artifacting in Generals.

hey guys, is there a way to see what are the temps for each core? I use Everest Home, I got NorthBridge Temps, CPU Temps, Motherboard Temps and Video Card Temps.

What is motherboard temps ??? Could it be the second core?

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hey guys, is there a way to see what are the temps for each core? I use Everest Home, I got NorthBridge Temps, CPU Temps, Motherboard Temps and Video Card Temps.

What is motherboard temps ??? Could it be the second core?

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Nope, the mobo temp is the mosfets, it's one big core... so i don't think it's possible.

ok thanks.