Tune up version of DFI NF4 510 bios

just chat with Oskar and he gave me this:
After bios update, it will show as 623

http://img295.echo.cx/img295/8907/112cx.jpg

http://oskarwu.myweb.hinet.net/dfi/b...s/510-1FIX.zip
http://oskarwu.myweb.hinet.net/dfi/b...s/510-2FIX.zip
http://oskarwu.myweb.hinet.net/dfi/b...s/510-3FIX.zip
if you feel 510 bios are better than other versions , these 3 bios are based on the 510 and fixed the following:

add dram response time fastest and fixed the program vdimm after ac off.

any problem please reply here, about the 618, he will have some fix as well. stay tune.

I will try this tonight after work, as the 618 (-2 & -3) were not working too well with my setup, were as 510-2 & -3 were really good.

Have you had time to test them yet OPB?

:cool: :)

I remember someone saying the 618 series of BIOS had issues with X2 compared to the 510 series. Any word on that?

Are these the same with the 6/23 that windwithme just posted ?

I think they are different

Remind me what each number says (1, 2 or 3).
If I remember correctly 1 is general ram 2 is UTT and 3 is TCCD. Am I right?

Thanks,
Suma.

:D "After bios update, it will show as 623" so I think it's the same WWM has posted.

According to the last BIOS release (618) DFI said:

-1 is for BH-5/UTT
-2 is for general
-3 is for TCCD


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Thank You, will try now!

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Originally Posted by HARDCORECLOCKER

:D "After bios update, it will show as 623" so I think it's the same WWM has posted.

According to the last BIOS release (618) DFI said:

-1 is for BH-5/UTT
-2 is for general
-3 is for TCCD


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Nah they said:
-1 is for BH-5
-2 is for CH-5/UTT
-3 is for TCCD

Well thats what I read :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by UnreaL

Nah they said:
-1 is for BH-5
-2 is for CH-5/UTT
-3 is for TCCD

Well thats what I read :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by HARDCORECLOCKER

:D "After bios update, it will show as 623" so I think it's the same WWM has posted.

According to the last BIOS release (618) DFI said:

-1 is for BH-5/UTT
-2 is for general
-3 is for TCCD


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Well, both of you says that -3 is TCCD which is what I need.
Anyway thanks :)

Suma.

Damn, who can clear up this confusion for once and for all?

Oskar, maybe you can include a small read-me with the updates...?

Well Ive just flashed to the -2 version, from 618-2, and my 11x multi now works, before I had to do 371x7 to get 2.6GHz at 1.45 volts (actual, BIOS was set to 1.5), now 236x11 works at the same voltage, before it wouldnt even POST!

Updated www.dfi-bios.tk with these new bios's.

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Originally Posted by NiCKE^

Updated www.dfi-bios.tk with this new bios's.

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:D THX NICKE^ !!! :banana:

Found this on NICKE^'s hp: "All bioses from 5.09 and later are optimized like this, TCC* = Orange slots and BH-5,UTT = Yellow slots"

Never heard about - still on the orange ones with my BH-5.

Anyone with some further informations? :confused:

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Originally Posted by RGone

-1 uses 3.26 ram table
-2 uses 3.16 ram table
-3 uses 3.10 ram table


That is correct from a msnm conversation with Oskar.

Ok a couple of other points you might want to know and consider.

3/10 ram table limits you to 'two' stick dual channel to Orange slots still.

Since the 3/16/05 bios sticks could go into Yellow or Orange slots and NOT have warning to place sticks in Orange slots. This means bios with ram tables 3/16 and 3/26 can have two stick dual channel in either Yellow or Orange slots.

Now knowing that you should be able to take advantage of this feature for "however much" you find it worth.
Yellow slots 1 and 3 are supposed better suited for HI voltage and therefore UTT/BH-5 types of memory.
Orange slots 2 and 4 are supposed better suited for normal lower voltages and therefore TCCD/TCCC/TCC5 types of memory.

RGone...

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This is a quote from a moderator at DFI-Street which spoke with Oscar over msn.

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Originally Posted by HARDCORECLOCKER

:D THX NICKE^ !!! :banana:

Found this on NICKE^'s hp: "All bioses from 5.09 and later are optimized like this, TCC* = Orange slots and BH-5,UTT = Yellow slots"

Never heard about - still on the orange ones with my BH-5.

Anyone with some further informations? :confused:

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Angry_Games said over at dfi-street that all high voltage (bh-5 + utt) should be in yellow slots. Orange for lower voltage stuff.

He said this when they advised everyone not to use the 4v jumper setting IIRC.

*bah I cant see it on forum, but I remember one of admin saying it over there...*

Hope this helps!

:banana: Very nice - THX again !!!

Learned again somethin' important at XS !!!

So I will give the yellows a try with my BH-5 and if there is an improvement best is that 1 GIG of MUSHKIN REDLINE 4000 is already on the way to me..., it also should like yellow then ! ;)


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Yellows with my Mushkin Redline XP4000's do nothing but lock up at updating DMI screen during boot. Orange works like a champ for me :D

so... which one for bh5 again? I always thought it was 2, but im seeing mixed answers here.

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Originally Posted by HARDCORECLOCKER

:D "After bios update, it will show as 623" so I think it's the same WWM has posted.

According to the last BIOS release (618) DFI said:

-1 is for BH-5/UTT
-2 is for general
-3 is for TCCD


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I wish to heck someone could get this straight once and for all and quit switching it around lol. I mean seriously, could someone who actually knows tell us which version is optimized for what?

I thought it was like this:

-1 is for general
-2 is for BH-5/CH-5/UTT
-3 is for TCCD

I know OCZ reps seem to always recommend -3 for TCCD based modules but AG over at DFI-Street recommends -2 for TCCD modules cause he says it works best for him. I have BH-5 myself and i dont know which one would be best so i just been using the -2 version BIOS's but if their switching it around with the new 618's then i'm clueless.

What BIOS would you recommend Onepagebook? I have a 3200+ Venice and the new G.Skill 1GBGH UTT-BH.

Is the USB keyboard problem fixed in the 510 refresh?

Mushkin recommended 510-2 and that's what they have been using to test the Redline on, therefore I'm going to stick with -2 version for UTT :D :D

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Originally Posted by SVTSnake

Yellows with my Mushkin Redline XP4000's do nothing but lock up at updating DMI screen during boot. Orange works like a champ for me :D

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:confused: Taken from #16: "Since the 3/16/05 bios sticks could go into Yellow or Orange slots and NOT have warning to place sticks in Orange slots. This means bios with ram tables 3/16 and 3/26 can have two stick dual channel in either Yellow or Orange slots."

Maybe You're on the wrong BIOS or ramtable ???

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Originally Posted by HARDCORECLOCKER

:D "After bios update, it will show as 623" so I think it's the same WWM has posted.

According to the last BIOS release (618) DFI said:

-1 is for BH-5/UTT
-2 is for general
-3 is for TCCD


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NO , different

As i've said before, my BH5 runs much better in orange slots than in yellow ones.

I've just flashed the 510-3Fixed and it is working better than any previous bios (tryied 310,310-p,510-2and3, 615,618-2 and 3) it is doing 237 1'5-2-2 at 3.04v while with any previous one i needed 3'17v for that. CPU seems to need a little lower voltage to run at same frequency. Now trying 240x10 1:1 1'26v air cooled.

Edit: I was using SP2004 but seem that superpi fails :( (usually i can pass superpi and not sp2004, that's weird :S)

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Originally Posted by Onepagebook

NO , different

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Do you mean NO their different or that there is NO difference? lol

Which one should i use for my G.Skill UTT-BH? -1,-2,-3?

Seems that I needed some vcore. By now it has passed spi 16MB at 240 1'5-2-2 3'04vdimm so i have gained 1Mhz with -0'1V :p

I can now change Dram response time and it boots.
Ealier bios it just rebooted.

I think its time for a BIOS FAQ once and for all.. Definitions of Yellow and Orange Slots and Which -#'s go to what ram. Each day i read something different! LOL

Awaiting for the DFI UT RX200 Blah Blah board to surface.

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Originally Posted by burningrave101

Do you mean NO their different or that there is NO difference? lol

Which one should i use for my G.Skill UTT-BH? -1,-2,-3?

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"different" means the one I post 510 fix, is totally different from master WWM 's post 623bios

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Originally Posted by Onepagebook

"different" means the one I post 510 fix, is totally different from master WWM 's post 623bios

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Ok, and which 510 fix version would you recommend for running on the G.Skill 1GBGH UTT-BH modules? 510Fix-2? or 510Fix-1?

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Originally Posted by Onepagebook

"different" means the one I post 510 fix, is totally different from master WWM 's post 623bios

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:slapass:

Be clear svp!

Somebody with a decent amount of time at his disposal should do us all a favor and do a perfomance comparison between all these bios' files.:toast:

Thanx for the info OPB. :clap:

I have 2*512 Ballistix pc4000 which slot and version please?
or is it "taste and try before you buy"

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Originally Posted by Zyklon5

Somebody with a decent amount of time at his disposal should do us all a favor and do a perfomance comparison between all these bios' files.:toast:

Thanx for the info OPB. :clap:

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second that.

Compare all bh5 bios,tccd and UTT/CH5 :)

I'd just flashed the 510-2Fix but it's now reporting the date at 6/23/05....so these 510fix version have the same date as those that winewitme posted? :confused:

added to main .ISO and -mini ISO compiled.

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Originally Posted by ben805

I'd just flashed the 510-2Fix but it's now reporting the date at 6/23/05....so these 510fix version have the same date as those that winewitme posted? :confused:

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Yes they have the same date but their not suppost to be the same BIOS versions.

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Originally Posted by Ubermann

I can now change Dram response time and it boots.
Ealier bios it just rebooted.

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What did you have Dram Response set to when it used to reboot? For me normal and Fast work fine in 510-2 however Fastest causes my boot to hang right when it would have said verfiying dmi pool data. Instead of showing that however the system just reboots. Is this what you were mentioning and can you now choose fastest and have it boot normally? Is the system still stable overall and has any performance increase been seen with this new value?

ok, i will try it now, thanks a lot opb :toast:

I think I will flash back to this 510 fix from the 623

just flashed to this 510-3 bios. And all of a sudden i cant seem to use Clockgen i windows? everything above 230fsb makes it freeze but in bios im ok to +300fsb!! kinda weird!

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Originally Posted by Onepagebook

NO , different

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:D Nice to see You here again mate - and THX for clearing up this. Of course I will try the 510-FIX and I think the -2 is best for my BH-5 and my REDLINE 4000 in future.

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is there really any point to upgrade from 3/10?

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Originally Posted by AMD-me

is there really any point to upgrade from 3/10?

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:D Yep - now my vid card send a signal to the screen while POST without need to hit reset each time..........

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Originally Posted by HARDCORECLOCKER

:D Yep - now my vid card send a signal to the screen while POST without need to hit reset each time..........

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wow, i dont have any problems with that. I havnt had a single hiccup with mine :D

Do any of these bios allow for special ram voltage adjustment? I have some ch-5 at 3.2v and i want 3.3v. Is it possible to get 3.3v while on the 3.3v rail?

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Originally Posted by AMD-me

wow, i dont have any problems with that. I havnt had a single hiccup with mine :D

Do any of these bios allow for special ram voltage adjustment? I have some ch-5 at 3.2v and i want 3.3v. Is it possible to get 3.3v while on the 3.3v rail?

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:D Yep - with the jumper trick. See AMD section - thread opened by SAAYA.

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510-2fix doesn't like my rig, prime95 blend test crapped out in 43 min while the 618-2 let me passed 58.5 HOURS in blend test...same settings and everything!! Going to try the 623-2 and see what's up.... :stick:

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Originally Posted by cantankerous

Fastest causes my boot to hang right when it would have said verfiying dmi pool data. Instead of showing that however the system just reboots.

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I experienced the same with my OCZ Rev.2 TCCD with the 6/15 bios and Fastest setting and have to move down to Fast to get it to boot properly. I then flashed to 6/18-2 and I can now use the Fastest setting without issue :)

(note: I've not tried 6/23-x yet)

oh sweet so maybe it was a bios issue. I just thought my ram couldn't handle it. I will have to check out the 618 variants and see what they bring me. So timko, does fastest bring you anything desireable? lower latency, higher bw etc or does it in fact make the system less stable?

edit, I just realized I am using 618-2 so I have no clue lol.

623-2 works just fine for me, been running prime95 blend test for 2.5 hours without any error so far :D :D


Edit...decided to stopped the prime95 and tried to run superpi 32M, failed within 30 seconds....WTF??? :stick:

510-2fix is looking to be a great BIOS for my G.Skill LE 440s.

Running stable at 2.5-3-3-7 DDR630....

My G.skill 440s do not like the 510-3fix nearly as much.

I need to test with my LE 437s also..I'll post results here later...

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Originally Posted by cantankerous

So timko, does fastest bring you anything desireable? lower latency, higher bw etc or does it in fact make the system less stable?

edit, I just realized I am using 618-2 so I have no clue lol.

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I did some Sandra Membench scores whilst using 6/15 + Fast and 6/18-2 + Fastest and the scores were pretty much the same, varying by only 1point either way. I ran the test about 6 times on each BIOS and calculated the average for each and compared/

As for stability, it's rock solid at the speed I have the RAM at and has been rock solid ever since the 3/10p BIOS with the same dram settings :)

TY very much for fixing 510. Me sys seems to like this one most (2 that is), had some issues with 618, but this ones just as good as me previous 510-2.

Can I say that the 623 Series Bios is mainly to fix some bugs for the X2 Dual Core?

Awesome BIOS! Especially for my 2 x 512 BH-6 Kingston sticks. ;) Thanks for the info about yellow/orange slots... Now I use Yellow slots instead of orange because of configuration I have. Before using Yellow slots I could not get SuperPi or Gold Memory stable > 240 MHz CL2-2-2-5 + the fastest alphas and now I am testing my cfg @ 255 MHz 3.4 + 0.03v. And it looks to be stable so far.

Hi! Well, i was using 310 bios for a long time, but this time thought update to 510-1. But my experience with this bios was bad, i could't run stable even in stock speeds, SuperPI 1M fails on stock speed and stock timings!!.

I decided come back to 310, and all return to normality, i returned to see SuperPI 32M stable with such parameters that previously were unstable.

Well, there are 2 yellow leds, close to dimms and in the bottom of motherboard, I remember that before update to 510-1 when i shutdown the PC these leds stayed ignited, and now only stayed the led in the bottom. Why? My motherboard damage?

ok, after reading this thread, I saw 3 different answers, on what bios, goes to what ram...

I think someone really needs to clear this up finally.

What Bios goes to What Ram?

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Originally Posted by Kunaak

ok, after reading this thread, I saw 3 different answers, on what bios, goes to what ram...

I think someone really needs to clear this up finally.

What Bios goes to What Ram?

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Yep, What Bios goes to What Ram? :slapass:

Got some 2x256 KHX3500 DW50 (new BH5) and 3200+ Venice

Im currently using the 510-2 FIX bios and it is rock solid running my BH6 @ 255Mhz no probs atm testing it at 260Mhz and its getting there a bit more tweaking and it will be stable , all timings at 2-2-2-5 :D

Kunak, there are some general statements made by Oscar as to which bios ver is better for whatever ram, but truth is that you really need to try all three versiosn of any bios # and users are getting different results no matter what ram they use. From my experience -3 worked best for TCCD. -2 is good for 2gig balistix. -2 is alos good for BH or UTT or redline. I never had great luck with -1 for any of it.