Got me a new mobo today.
Heres a little preview, 1 stick of Kingston @ only 2.7V :D
Needs work and Voltage mod but we may have 3D monster here:D
OPP
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Got me a new mobo today.
Heres a little preview, 1 stick of Kingston @ only 2.7V :D
Needs work and Voltage mod but we may have 3D monster here:D
OPP
OPP
Sweet, mine will be here in the morning. Cant wait to see some scores.
I have a question bout the v-mod. How exactly do u do the vdimm mod? Like what pot and omhage?
And the vcore mod is the same as the kx7 rite?
Nice. What CPU is it that you used for the WCPUID screenshot? Seems at least we're getting high FSBs with this bad boy....
i'm impressed! i think i still like the epox though.
any word on when the board with mounting holes will be available? this is the only reason i am leaning towards the epox.
Is that a Xp 2200 or a B core Tbred?
mbrock, it would have to be a 'B' core based on the stepping id of 1 in the wcpuid shot.. :DQuote:
Originally posted by mbrock
Is that a Xp 2200 or a B core Tbred?
Sorry I did not pay attention to the 1,1 in the steppings.Quote:
Originally posted by AKRedneck
mbrock, it would have to be a 'B' core based on the stepping id of 1 in the wcpuid shot.. :D
Well if that is a B core that that sort of blows the theory that the NF7-s only lets A core get high FSB. Now I am really confused.:confused: unless this board is newer than a rev1.0
OPP:toast: ,
looks like 226fsb on nForce should guarantee you brutal 3dmark score right off the bat. however, i would expect little higher score at this speed. unless you relaxed the timings a bit.
Opp does your NF7 has the 4 holes around the socket?
Opp, are you using a pci raid controller card to get ya past 188fsb? I see your using a Tbred stepping.
Your bench is a good sign though the bandwidth seems low compared to the Epox.:(
As far as 3dmark goes some of the tests will suffer from the decreased mhz's won't they? That is roughly 500mhz's less than your previous AMD score with the KD7. It will be interesting to see how high a score Opps NF7-s will get.
mbrock,
i don't think this was achieved with Prommy. He prolly knocked down multi just to max out the memory/fsb. 12x226 should be within the reach with Prometeia.
btw @ 204fsb cas2/2/2/2, i scored around 32xx/31xx on Asus board, but it's limited to 211fsb only:(
226 with 2.7v .. not too bad :D
I hope the holy NF7 will have voltages we need to do 3D at those fsb!
GG OPP ;)
Unless the problems with the NF7 is that there is a problem in the way it works while using the high bit multipliers. I did not check that on mine.Quote:
Originally posted by QuadDamage
mbrock,
i don't think this was achieved with Prommy. He prolly knocked down multi just to max out the memory/fsb. 12x226 should be with the reach with Prometeia.
btw @ 204fsb cas2/2/2/2, i scored around 32xx/31xx on Asus board, but it's limited to 211fsb only:(
i don't know which chip OPP uses on this board, but if it's 12.5x or lower multi chip, there shouldn't be any problem. at least upto 12.5x. hmm, let's wait for OPP's input.
This could be interesting. I know on my 2800+ I never even tried anything lower than 13.5. Hopefully Opp will shed some light on this soon
bandwith seems a bit low to me... I hope you're not with tighest timings
I decided to keep mine (when it gets here) because of Opps luck...but then he always gets more out of his hardware than I do. The no holes does not bother me as I will use the Prommie...the volt mods do bother me...looks nasty!
I am surprised he got such high fsb without a mod..even tho looks like relaxed timings? I always have to ram the juice to it to get fsb up that high. looks like I need to shop for a 256 Kingston also. The spending never stops!
Don't keep us waiting too long, OPP :p
:slobber:
I wanna know:
PCI Lock?
Mounting Holes?
HD Corruption?
I'm stuck with my KD7 at 191 with XMS 3200C2 :mad:
i think it's safe to rule out HDD coruption as nForce2 uses zillion of diffrent controllers for agp/pci/southbridge. PCI is locked for sure, so no data corruption:)Quote:
HD Corruption?
Okay, I had to go to bed:D
Heres the deal, for one thing this is a XP2700 chip, I was just testing:D
No HD corruption:D
There are no holes on the mobo, this is a original.
It took me 2 hours to figuer out the mobos problem with high fsb, there are 2 problems running at 225.
1) You have to dissable both IDE controllers, I have 2 IBMs set up on the ATA 150 controllers, Raid-0.
2) your internet conection is shot at this speed.
Of coarse I only had so much time to play, I'll be testing it today after my AC DC Mid Term I didn't study for last night:D
The mem mod will be a B!tch, it is the same as the BE7-BD7.
The timings were very low 4-4-10, can't do much at 2.7V :D
I'll be back later and figuer this bad boy out. Remember the #1 above is the secret to get this mobo to go high with the FSB.
OPP
Thanks, OPP :)
I'm tellin ya, Abit wants me to be an EPoX buyer 4 life ;)
Opp - you using your network ports for an internet connection?
Thought there was 2 NICs onboard on the NF7?
Anyway, youve answered one of my questions about the nforce - a board with RAID. Im taking it its a highpoint 372a chip with SATA headers instead of IDE?
Hows the vcpu mod look? Standard HIP chip?
Sorry for all the questions :). This is the board ive been waiting for to go back to AMD, and withthe new stepping Tbreds now looks like the time.
Incase anyone didnt notice with the mem bench it wasnt in dual channel mode. That was one stick of memory only. Should be looking at about 200 - 300mb/s increase in the buffered bench. Any chance of you running some unbuffered benches Opp? Im yet to see NF2 unbuffered.
PiLsY.
Very excellent. I was using a Promise raid card but I did not dissable Both IDE's. That is very strange only thing on the ide was my CDrom.
Standard V-core mod, Hip 6301 Pin 7, 50k VR, works great.
OPP
Well for you water cooling guys out there, there are prefabbed ziff socket hold downs available, I went to this guys shop yesterday to pickup a waterblock for my 9700( gf3 waterblock ). I met the owner and he showed me around, he showed me alot of quality stuff. He designs all his own stuff right there, and has it silver plated. He has some cool chit like memory water blocks and stuff. Anyways he can probably come up with anything you need. He sells his block with a zif clamp, he sells a zif clamp for a different block also. He even milled the bottom of my new block while I waited, including milling the edge so that I wouldn't have to take the shim off the Radeon ( 1 less thing I gotta do :D ). Like I said he could probably come up with anything you need as far as hold downs( no guarantee here, but you can ask ), even if he doesn't have them listed at his site, as he does all the work himself ( 'cept plating ).
It was my first time at a place where someone designs/builds/mills their own stuff, and it was cool to see it all..... wish I had that kind of gear!!!!! heheh
I took some pics of the block after he milled the edges for me, but I don't have the cable to take them off my camera( thought I did, but wrong camera cable :( - will need to get a sandisk ). Any way enough of this.... here is his site if ya want a prefabbed hold down- talk to Scott ( the owner ) and make sure what he has will work on your particular block b4 you order it.
http://www.cpufx.com/Merchant2/merch...tegory_Code=UC
Just picked up 2x256 Kingston 3500 hyper to go with this board...ouch! $240
hmm. don't like that
You should think with a pci lock it should be no trouble to use the IDE controllers.
Anyway, which Promise Controller is better for overclocking?
FastTrak 100 TX2 ? oder the TX2000 ... both should handle 66mhz pci, so there should be no Problem pushing up the fsb (at least with the HD drives)?
Just because the controller will work @ 66mhz pci doesnt mean the hard drives will :p. Dont forget it doesnt convert the speed and fix @ 33 for your hdds.
PiLsY.
Excellent! hmmm....TheDude looks at his huge shaking hands.Quote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
Standard V-core mod, Hip 6301 Pin 7, 50k VR, works great.
OPP
@ PiLsY
Thx, didn't know that...
According to Randi's post in another thread the PCI bus is Locked so HD problems from high FSB's should not be a problem. I will be very interesting to see how Opp's board does when he starts using the high bit multipliers. I just wonder if they could also be part of the problem.Quote:
Originally posted by PiLsY
Just because the controller will work @ 66mhz pci doesnt mean the hard drives will :p. Dont forget it doesnt convert the speed and fix @ 33 for your hdds.
PiLsY.
make that 2x512, really ouch!!Quote:
Originally posted by TheDude
Just picked up 2x256 Kingston 3500 hyper to go with this board...ouch! $240
by statement 1, i assume you are referring to the onboard SATA....darn, i was hoping to go the cheap route and just buy an adapter to add my 2 extra HDs, now i suppose i have to pick up a rocketraid cardQuote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
Okay, I had to go to bed:D
Heres the deal, for one thing this is a XP2700 chip, I was just testing:D
No HD corruption:D
There are no holes on the mobo, this is a original.
It took me 2 hours to figuer out the mobos problem with high fsb, there are 2 problems running at 225.
1) You have to dissable both IDE controllers, I have 2 IBMs set up on the ATA 150 controllers, Raid-0.
2) your internet conection is shot at this speed.
Of coarse I only had so much time to play, I'll be testing it today after my AC DC Mid Term I didn't study for last night:D
The mem mod will be a B!tch, it is the same as the BE7-BD7.
The timings were very low 4-4-10, can't do much at 2.7V :D
I'll be back later and figuer this bad boy out. Remember the #1 above is the secret to get this mobo to go high with the FSB.
OPP
as for statement 2, i assume you are referring to the onboard nic....darn again, but o well, i have a few of nics lying around
so i guess high fsb means i have to give up everything thats onboard? does abit make a regular nf7? i have an m-audio revolution soundcard on pre-order, so i wouldnt be using the onboard sound either...sort of defeats the purpose of having a nforce2 except that i want those agp and pci locks
gokickrocks,
You assumed right.
Well I ran into some problems. I was testing for dual DDR action, BTW, it did 220 tops and there was no difference between haveing the 2 sticks in and just one as far as a Sandra bench. Anyway I fried the OS going for 225 so I installed w2k, then I tryed some 200 and couldn't get into Windows. And Now I can't even BOOT past 188 or so. Very strange, I should have benched some 3D last night while the sucker was running good:D
Back to the drawing board:rolleyes:
OPP
Any idea when the holes version is supposed to be released? I'm trying to decide on 8rda or Nf7-s... Gonna be hard to mem mod you say? Argh! any idea how hard the 8rda is gonna be to volt mod?
Were you still at multiplier setting of 10 when all the problems started?
Opp, did you have it in the correct two slots for DualChannel !?
You should really be getting much better bandwith .. go down to 200 FSB, and see what you get at max timings.. you need to get around 97.3% mem bandwith, otherwise Abit fouled up !
/Damir
DJ:)
Sandra really does not show a difference as far as Dual Channel is concerned. I've benched the 8RDA+ and can tell you this from experience...don't expect to see big differences in numbers. Where you can see the real world difference is in a bench such as Hexus PiFast Challenge....where a KT400 board may make the low 60 second range.....but the nForce2 boards have delved into previously only Intel territory with sub-60 second runs and better. I saw a big difference in the Car and Lobby games in 3DMark which rely on high bandwidth to produce highest FPS, between the 8RDA+ and the KD7....by 8-9 FPS..which might not seem like much...but it makes a substantial impact on scores across the 4 games.
Randi:D
I was able to work with my friend Aceman and his NF7-S tonight, and here are the results:
I believe this is the fastest 3DMark score under 2GHz. Project description has more detailed hardware specs. This is with ALL onboard devices enabled. One harddrive was running and it was on the IDE controller. The onboard NIC seemed to function fine, but we did not do any extensive testing (we will know to check on it next time). Our Sandra scores were not that impressive:
http://webpages.charter.net/praetere...Praet_6322.jpg
This is with one 512MB XM3500 at Cas2-6-3-2. We were able to load Windows, but unable to run Sandra at 238:
http://webpages.charter.net/praetereo/WCPUID_238fsb.jpg
I think better cooling may help, as it was hot in his room, and the system would become unstable if we did not allow a little time between benching. The worst thing is that I still can not get my XP2700 to work at a decent FSB in this board:brick:. Tonight we tried unlocking it, and lower multipliers would work fine in my AT7-MAX, but the chip would not work with any multiplier or FSB at all in the NF7-S. I am running out of ideas. If anyone has any suggestions, I would love to hear them.
OPP, a pitty that 225FSB shot isn't some DCDDR action, otherwise it would have been pretty sweet. :)
@preatereo: nice work! Don't concentrate on sisoft membenches if you want to see dual channel power though, run a pifast/superpi bench and you'll see the true power. As far as I know, you don't need to unlock your XP2700+ to change the MP's on a nforce² board.
agreed with Randi on Car/Lobby boost as my VIA boards were lagging behind by quite a bit in those tests. 250fps with air cooled ti4600 isn't that bad considering my last bench was only @ 2.44ghz. however dual DDR gave me 350 marks of boost @ 204fsb on A7N8X. i wish i could put my hands on NF7-S mobo...
I'm confused, why is everyone (so far that I've seen) who is using the Abit board only using one stick... what the hell is the point?! Dual channel is what I'm interested in! Rarr. :P
Heres a quickie unbuffered at 200mhz fsb
Hmm
Thats certainly not as good as id hoped gallifrey. I hit nearly that on the KR7A. Think the best I got was about 1500/1450. Its certainly not revolutionary put it that way.
I take it thats in DC mode?
Anyone remember Asus claiming 5000/5000 @ 225 fsb?
PiLsY.
yeah dual channel, but sandra benchie doesnt support it...
AT 200fsb sandra only gives a max 3200mb/s out of a max 6400mb/s
Therefore all scores are halved...
The fault is with sandra as it only uses 64bit wide bw checks except for on rdram where it uses 128bit wide...
The reason for the scores improving with dual channel slightly is not down to the BW merely the fact that the bus is slightly more efficient with bot channels running...
When sandra supports NF2 properly you will see some improvement in the scores...
Looks like this board is going to be pretty sweet. I hate voltmods thought. So much work ;). Nice Job OPP, Praetereo
and Galifrey. Keep us informed. I think I'll be trading one of my Intels in for one of these new AMD/NF2 setups.
I await Opps 3d benches ...
I got this board on the way with a AXP 2800 / 9700pro / and 2 256mb sticks of XMS 3500. Now I kinda wish that I would have waited till the 1.1rev or so . Oh well no guts no glory :D
JC
OPP, just curious on any other timings in the BIOS?
Im at 223 @ 2-2-2-4 @ 100% on the 8RDA+, and am seeing nowhere near your results (3300/3100ish).
do you use multiplier under 10?
if yes this is the reason for your perfromance drop!!!
all 8rda bios version have poor performance with multiplier under 10.
in sandra you loose 150mb's if you use multiplier under 10!!!
try it for yourself and run some fsb's with multiplier 10 and 9,5 and you will see what imean!!!
under 10?!!?!
been using 9.0 - 9.5
FARK =(
Is your mem set to aggressive? If not do that for sure.
This setting makes only 50/60mb/s. Nowhere near the speed increase its supposed to be.Quote:
Originally posted by muzz
Is your mem set to aggressive? If not do that for sure.
I tested 9.0, 9.5, 10.0 and 10.5x 200mhz FSB (aggressive settings, 2-2-2-4), and the multiplier problem is not there at all. Theres little to no difference in the results that could not be put down to a slower/faster CPU.
I think agressive is just cpu fast decode on the epox. It may be that the Abit, as usual, is tuned a bit higher on timings than the epox. I have the 8rda+ as well and it just seems to me that the dual channle setup is highly unpredictable and prone to timing caused corruption and hardware failure when overclocking, compared to single channel. This may be why Via has now said that 400a will not be dual chan. capable. Are you using the c16 epox bios?
Using c05 (off aoa forums).
Sinnah,
There is one thing in the ABit softmenu, it has optimal or aggressive, it's for cpu/fsb performance. Not sure if this made any difference in the score but other then that there isn't much else to tweak besides timings.
OPP
I want DCDDR action :D
Is the board a keeper or not? -
Also, is there any word on a new bois release?
The NF7 Died :(Quote:
Originally posted by Mike EFix
Is the board a keeper or not? -
Also, is there any word on a new bois release?
No clue as to why, it just stoped booting. I have another on the way and see if it will Stay running at the high FSB.
OPP
How many versions are they releasing of this board? The NF7, NF7-S... and I thought I read something about NF7-M or something? I know it was a third one... I know NF7 doesn't have all the integrated features, but what does the third one have? Also, how many IDE to SATA cables do they include in the box? I need 2. If there isn't 2, where can I pick up another one? I'd like to keep my WD drives in RAID 0.
It only comes with one. You can get a second one here:Quote:
how many IDE to SATA cables do they include in the box?
http://www.excaliberpc.com/product_i...roducts_id=703
$25? that's high
NF7-M is the one with nForce IGP, which has onboard graphics.
I think $25 is a little bit high, but consider other nForce 2 motherboards that have SATA onboard do not even include ONE.
Hey Abit Marketing, when can we expect the boards with holes? And do you have any word on a bios with better voltages?
No words of BIOS with better voltages yet.. I believe they are still working on it.
The HOLY version SHOULD be here around early January. I am sorry that's all I know so far. :(
Darn, was hoping for an inside scoop, hehe. Another question, is there going to be any difference between the holy version and the non-holy version besides that? Any fixes or updates to the physical part of the board that can't be fixed with the BIOS?
Has anyone in here actually done the vmods for this board yet? I hear all kinds of different stories on this...from nasty to cake.
Well Iv'e done the v-core and it's simple 6301 mod. Works great.Quote:
Originally posted by TheDude
Has anyone in here actually done the vmods for this board yet? I hear all kinds of different stories on this...from nasty to cake.
The v-mem is like the BE7, there is a guy that has done it successufully already.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&threadid=6039
I'll be doing it on my next board.
OPP
:eek: 3.24 vmem
im waiting till after the holiday season to pick mines up
Got mine up and running. :) Awsome board!! Besides the voltages, this mobo is f#$king sweet.
I set it up, popped in my 2400+, set it to 200x11 and she booted right up. At 200fsb and tight timings it pushed over 3100/2900. But cant do much more with 2.7v :(. Im using XMS3000. Time for some new RAM. ;)
Im using the IDE channels and having no probs as of yet(only been up to 210fsb tho), everything works good and the onboard sound is nice.
But anyway time for bed.:slobber:
*sigh* And yet another Abit board dies an unknowningly death as so many others have before it. Rock on Abit!Quote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
The NF7 Died :(
No clue as to why, it just stoped booting. I have another on the way and see if it will Stay running at the high FSB.
OPP
and joins the host of other nforce 2 boards that have done the same...
Ok I couldnt sleep ;).
Anyways the multi's are kinda whacked. Im using a 2400+ and so far i can use 15-11 multi. 10.5, 10 and 9.5 will not load into windows. However 9 will. I havent tried anything lower then 9 or higher then 15.
from what I have read and seen on my own NF7 it looks like there is something really flacky about the multipliers. What FSB were you using and at what multipliers. I may be wrong but it looks to me that if you use the low bit multipliers then a FSB of 200+ is no problem. When you change to high bit to maximize the CPU's mhz's then you are lucky to get 188 FSB without trashing your OS.Quote:
Originally posted by twiggy
Ok I couldnt sleep ;).
Anyways the multi's are kinda whacked. Im using a 2400+ and so far i can use 15-11 multi. 10.5, 10 and 9.5 will not load into windows. However 9 will. I havent tried anything lower then 9 or higher then 15.
THANKS OPP!:DQuote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
Well Iv'e done the v-core and it's simple 6301 mod. Works great.
The v-mem is like the BE7, there is a guy that has done it successufully already.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&threadid=6039
I'll be doing it on my next board.
OPP
I think I'm going to buy it
You know this is just another example of why we should really re-define the meaning of stable overclock. Maybe we can't label an o/c stable until it holds for a certain period of time. It just seems that at so far out of spec for a period of time, sooner or later something generally gives out. But, it is nice while it lasts.Quote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
The NF7 Died :(
No clue as to why, it just stoped booting. I have another on the way and see if it will Stay running at the high FSB.
OPP
I've ran 200+ by 9, 11, 11.5. I need to do the vcore mod and get some better ram but i havent have any probs with trashing the OS.Quote:
Originally posted by mbrock
from what I have read and seen on my own NF7 it looks like there is something really flacky about the multipliers. What FSB were you using and at what multipliers. I may be wrong but it looks to me that if you use the low bit multipliers then a FSB of 200+ is no problem. When you change to high bit to maximize the CPU's mhz's then you are lucky to get 188 FSB without trashing your OS.
But i have noticed something bout 3dmarks, I'll grab a pic and post it in a min.
this is my nf2 stock vs my kx7 stock. Now all scores are better with the nf2 except this one.
This is my kx7 stock vs Praetereo's 3dmark with his nf2.
twiggy, how many pts different in 3dmark2k1 compared to your AT7 ??
Thanks !
Well i never did the at7 stock and its dead now, but heres a stock nf2(on top) and a stock kx7.Quote:
Originally posted by Henry
twiggy, how many pts different in 3dmark2k1 compared to your AT7 ??
Thanks !
opps. :p
Thanks twiggy :banana:
Almost 350 pts, that's with Dual Channel ??
9 pts different in nature test ?? Nature test is VGA intensive, isn't it ?.
Thanks again :)
Yes its dual channel. I have no clue whats up with the nature, bump mapping and pixel shader. Im 100% sure i used them same settings also.
Im looking into some new RAM but im stuck. Corsair or Kingston?!?!
A little 200 fsb action.
http://bravo.ausgamers.com/Epox/mem5.gifQuote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
Got me a new mobo today.
Heres a little preview, 1 stick of Kingston @ only 2.7V :D
Needs work and Voltage mod but we may have 3D monster here:D
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=&postid=74286
OPP
I wish my Epox would perform like your Abit. Imagine my memory coupled with your board, mmmm.....Abit efficiency @ 2-2-2-5.
Lovely guys looks like a top notch board :)
Does it have RAID IDE ports as well as the SerialATA ports??
I tend to agree higher core and ram voltage would be lovely even if it means having to use an overvolt jumper protection :)
Is it the icky orange coloured PCB?? Also whats the NB HSF like on these boards??
@ Sinnah
do you use multiplier under 10???
if yes you loose 150mb's with multiplier under 10 in sandra membench with the epox
@200fsb sync dual channel with 2422 timings on my epox i get:
with 9,5 multiplier 2954 mb's
with 10 multiplier 3106 mb's !!!
@210fsb sync dual channel with 2422 timings and 10 multiplier
i get 3270 mb's
so 10 mhz more sync my sandra mem score increases minimum 150mb's, @226mhz sync you should get 3450mb's!!!
I am reluctant to post anything yet, but my friend Aceman and I have come up with a solution that appears to solve the high FSB problem most people seem to be having with the NF7-S. We have now gotten my XP2700 to successfully run stable (prime, sandra, 3dmark, etc...) at 220+ sync FSB, where as before it would suffer the exact same problems everyone here is mentioning when trying to run high FSB on these chips. Again, I really want to do some more testing to be sure we have it figured out - I have several CPUs and two NF7-S boards to try. I just noticed many people not happy with the high FSB problem :D, so I figured I would mention that we were able to fix mine before everyone RMAs their boards :). We plan to bench on Thursday and Friday, so hopefully I can post our solution then once I completely verify it.
Praetereo,
Ah, it's Christmas my friend, just post your Possible Fix:)
OPP
By God please do!! Im sure TheDude as well as my brother would love you forever.:p :D :am:
OPP...I am with you my man....I want to hear this possible solution:)
PM OPP and I if you prefer and share your yet uncertain fix...my NF7-S just arrived 2 minutes ago along with some other nice goodies....I'm raring to go Praetereo...please please oh pretty please:D
Merry Christmas !!
Randi:D
That means Mine will be here soon also, I better go do some X-mas shopping so I'll have time to play:DQuote:
Originally posted by MrIcee
OPP...I am with you my man....I want to hear this possible solution:)
PM OPP and I if you prefer and share your yet uncertain fix...my NF7-S just arrived 2 minutes ago along with some other nice goodies....I'm raring to go Praetereo...please please oh pretty please:D
Merry Christmas !!
Randi:D
OPP
Uh oh, i think im havin a vision here. *Looks into crystal ball* Yep, i see the NF7 at the top of the ORB.;)
Today is gonna be a great day.:) (If fed-ex will hurry up!)
mmmm.......Epox not looking so bad either @ 2-2-2-5Quote:
Originally posted by Sinnah
http://bravo.ausgamers.com/Epox/mem5.gif
I wish my Epox would perform like your Abit. Imagine my memory coupled with your board, mmmm.....Abit efficiency @ 2-2-2-5.
http://home.attbi.com/~phippy1/TwinMos222.bmp
Sorry, that bench taken at 222fsb.
I personally do not think there is a Via offering as of now that will compare to the NF2 boards........ I've been saying that for awhile now.
Whether it be the 8RDA+ or the new Abit...... with the right cooling it will lead the AMD @ the orb.
Praetereo,,
Got your PM and rushed to this thread to find NOTHING!
Share Bro! Don't worry about jumping the gun...post it so we can try it too. It's all I want for Christmas! It would make me a very happy camper!:D