thanks GOD , my UTT is back alive again!!

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06-07-2005, 02:42 AM
setyotomo

thanks GOD , my UTT is back alive again!!

HOLY COW .. my twinmos UTT mtec is alive again!! muahahahah :cow:

so here's the story, about 4-5 days ago, 1 of my beloved Twinmos mtec value, died after flashing BIOS>clear CMOS,do the "routine",... turn ON.. and she DIED, only one survive (which is in slot #1, dead one on the #3 DIMM) - she's running @ 260 2-2-2-5-7-15 with 5v jumper , running at 3.5v before flashing, FYI 260 only for benches, and for 24/7 i use 3.3v 250 2-2-2-5 for almost 3 month (i forgot)

so... because my vendor doesnt have any stock of these stick,and i've read somewhere that MAYBE she'll wake up someday.. so i decided to keep the stick and just try everything to get her up again . yes i only using 1x512 at that moment (it's been a hard time) :)

so this what i do (dunno which one bring her alive) :
1. wrap with my vga wrap(sorry dunno what it called in english), and put it on my fridge for about 6-7 hours
2. try to turn on> no go .. so i put her back again in the fridge for like.. 8hours
3. try again > no go .. ok.. getting desperate, so i just put on my desk and try to forget it
4. just now.. (after 4-5 days), i try my luck.. put her back again in slot #3
!!this time i use bigtoe vdimm jumper solution!!

and you know what... back and running as usual..., now im too afraid to turn of my computer :p

i'll do some test now, i hope she's doing well like before :D

so maybe, because i have read dead UTT everywhere (more than 80% on DFI NF4 boards), u could try the method before RMAing yor RAM sticks..

any inputs are welcome,

S
06-07-2005, 03:14 AM
goatman

rofl, ur lucky setyotomo!!
see if she'll clock better this time!!
06-07-2005, 03:19 AM
PowerSlide

tats sick lucky :toast:

:clap:
06-07-2005, 03:35 AM
Vincentvega18

Lucky, but i wouldnt like to try rmaing sticks youd done that to.......just imagine if they realised somehow. :D
06-07-2005, 04:20 AM
setyotomo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vincentvega18

Lucky, but i wouldnt like to try rmaing sticks youd done that to.......just imagine if they realised somehow. :D

no RMAing right now, she will be here for some moment :D

but it seems she had a hard time, memtest @ 250 2-2-2-5 3.3v give 700ish errors , before was 0 error for like 6 hours++
FYI : IMO this mtec do better with orange slots, i had error too after switching to yellow slot before all this happened, so i have a good feeling she'll do 250 3.3v in orange slot, but now i'm too afraid to switch her to orange(got a lot job to do,and needed 512x2 RAM - video editing)

ATM i'm running 245 2-2-2-5 @ 3.3v, maybe she just need a bit of time,after my jobs done,i'll try the orange slot

SuperPi 16MB stable
=The Return Of the UTT= :lsfight:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...idup_245-r.jpg

Also 3Dmark01 stable :toast:

PS : expecting that "single beep" (when restart/booting) become sooo depresing right now :para:
06-07-2005, 06:06 AM
jiff

Silly question ....but did flash bios with j17 set to 5v and 3.5 through ya RAM?
06-07-2005, 06:12 AM
zt_lee

ur case is same as my utt, revived after dead. I tot no hope to make it alive then i went to bed, tomorrow morning decided to give her a try for last time, magically survive, but test with memtest86 the error appear crazy, bfore can do 250 without error, but now only 245 without error.
06-07-2005, 09:06 AM
enzoR

i think SPD corruption
06-07-2005, 11:39 AM
[XC] moddolicous

Its good to hear that your ram is alive again. I know I'd be scared if my ram dies on me.
06-08-2005, 03:23 AM
Reefa_Madness

I don't mean to cause you alarm, but that happened to a friend of mine as well. It only ran for a few days, then died again.

It stayed dead afterwards.

Hope yours does better.
06-08-2005, 11:52 AM
setyotomo

yes reefa, it also happened to my friends TMSP ,back alived for 2 days.. and dead on the 3rd day guess.. but he's lucky my vendor got load of TMSP for RMA

for me.. its either shes dead .. or rma and get CADT (PSC chips)

edit : ok this is my 3rd day.. and i'm no way turning off my pc.. not even restart until my jobs done on next monday... OMG i just remember.. tommorow my gskill 256x2 arrived :eek: ... the LE's are coming but i didnt have the courage to flash the bios and shutdown my rig :rofl:
06-08-2005, 01:48 PM
Ubermann

Sounds like my kretons that did real good then died for a month.
Do never ever turn off your pc again cuz i think you will have to wait a long time until they get alive again.
06-08-2005, 02:01 PM
Aleman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ubermann

Sounds like my kretons that did real good then died for a month.
Do never ever turn off your pc again cuz i think you will have to wait a long time until they get alive again.

Well you did not tell me about that when i asked you about the Kretons HHAAHAHA (they´re on its way, ETA 2 days :D!)
06-08-2005, 03:52 PM
uscfan

So basically you just stuck it in the fridge and it came back to life? Whats the physics behind this?
06-08-2005, 06:52 PM
blackjok3r

stuck it in the fridge, then changed jumper to 3.3v-.1v vdimm option, bigtoe tweak. Then it worked.
06-08-2005, 07:18 PM
tictac

setyotomo... please dont restart or turn off your pc.... :nono:

...send me that gskill le :D
06-08-2005, 07:24 PM
HiJon89

Quote:

Originally Posted by setyotomo

yes reefa, it also happened to my friends TMSP ,back alived for 2 days.. and dead on the 3rd day

The lord giveth and the lord taketh away :p:
06-08-2005, 08:56 PM
uscfan

But seriously, why is it that the low temps of the fridge "cured" the ram?
06-08-2005, 09:07 PM
uwackme

hmmm

Doubt the fridge helped. The SPD rom's seem to be spazzing at high Vdimm on some sticks, and once they "go" they never come back to high Vdimm tolerance.

My affected sticks.... 2 SP3200 from different batches.... work fine as long as I stay UNDER 3.3Vdimm. They died at the 3.5Vdimm point, on stick was a real champ doing 250Mhz 1T on NF2 with its brother (who is still going strong).

Only thing I cant think of is the SPD rom chips are NOT 3.3V (3.6V abs max) chips, but are instead 2.5v chips, and can get damaged with too high a Vdimm and forever be voltage sensitive from then on. I still havent had the chance to go up and use the SMD rework machine to swap SPD roms from a high Vdimm tolerant stick to my (former) god stick, now turned wimp stick.

This will be able to confirm the hypothesis as soon as I can manage it.
06-09-2005, 08:52 AM
setyotomo

Quote:

Originally Posted by tictac

setyotomo... please dont restart or turn off your pc....

...send me that gskill le

muahahahah ,already got the LE, now just sitting there on my desk.. this is very temptiiingg..
add pic :
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...ose-crop-r.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by unwackme

Only thing I cant think of is the SPD rom chips are NOT 3.3V (3.6V abs max) chips, but are instead 2.5v chips, and can get damaged with too high a Vdimm and forever be voltage sensitive from then on. I still havent had the chance to go up and use the SMD rework machine to swap SPD roms from a high Vdimm tolerant stick to my (former) god stick, now turned wimp stick.

i think a agree on your point there, so do you think the old BH-5's got that high voltage SPD roms?
06-09-2005, 08:58 AM
jrw

Glad I didnt jump that "cheap BH5" boat. The low price seem to have - well - a price :)
My Mushkin have been spanked with 3.3vdimm for almost a year now :D
06-09-2005, 08:15 PM
uwackme

hmmm

Yes, I think the old BH5 have 3.3V spd roms, while new stuff has 2.5V ones.
06-15-2005, 12:28 PM
setyotomo

ok .. after my job finished yesterday, i have to unplug my Harddrive.. so have to turn off my rig. So i turn off

guess what happened next?

LOONG BEEP .. muahahahahah

okay you little bastard,this time you wont get away from me (thanks to EMC2 post about the PSU and BIOS issues that uses 2.6v after you shutdown and remove power chord)

so i unplug the faulty RAM, and boot to windows, restart... make sure i'm running 3.4v at bios.. then shut down

now.. without powerchord (PSU) off, i put the "dead" RAM... and then...

wala! She's back!! (i think smowhere charlie did mention this routine :D )

now its time to switch to my LE's , shes waiting too long :)
06-15-2005, 12:37 PM
oqy77

nice work setyotomo :clap: :clap: :clap:
and do please put that LE in .. wanna see some nasty results
06-15-2005, 04:15 PM
HousERaT

lucky fellow... glad you got some juice back in that stick..... hope it lasts.
07-16-2005, 05:38 AM
Aleman

Something very weird happend today.

I tried the "dead" Kreton UTT Stick after one week of being "broken" and it works, flawless... Weird weird weird.
07-17-2005, 12:24 PM
computerpro3

I'm scared :banana::banana::banana::banana:less to turn off my computer, I'm leaving it on the entier week I'm gone for vacation.

Every time I turn it off it takes me 30min - 2 hours to get it working again if the utt hasn't "temporarily died", and sometimes I have to run with only 2x512mb ( I have 4x521mb) to get it to start and run it at that for a few days while "resting" my other gig.

I abso:banana::banana::banana::banana:ingloutley hate this nf4 board when it doesnt work.
07-19-2005, 12:34 AM
red_dragon

damn you are lucky haha. I have no clue how ram can revive itself, but oh well. whooo hoo! Congrats on its revival.