PCMark04 WR: 9364 with A64 X2 4800+

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05-19-2005, 01:57 AM
Sampsa

PCMark04 WR: 9364 with A64 X2 4800+

Real quick test before the real action (3DMark05). 3233 MHz isn't the limit of the CPU but I should have spent more time tweaking the system, I think mobo/graphics card was holding us back. Radeon X850 XT PE running at default.

edit: ORB update and now it's offical: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm04=2961306

I think we'll get more deep into this after I get back from Computex 2005.

http://www.muropaketti.com/artikkeli.../ln2_setup.jpg

http://www.muropaketti.com/artikkeli...ark04_9364.gif

http://www.muropaketti.com/artikkeli...800/orb_wr.gif

Once again, by: Sampsa & Kamu
05-19-2005, 02:03 AM
harleybro

Congrats very cool! :toast: Lookin forward to 3D results. :)
05-19-2005, 02:07 AM
GazC

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sampsa

imho this "WR" thing is pretty much out of hand, everyone wants to have some kind of WR :rolleyes:

:p:

Seriously though, good job. I can see the X2 chips potentially making the FX series into a lame duck.
05-19-2005, 02:17 AM
Sampsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by GazC

:p:

Seriously though, good job. I can see the X2 chips potentially making the FX series into a lame duck.

Yes in PCMark04 which benefits ALOT from HyperThreading/SMP but in games which doesn't support HT/SMP FX-55 is the best choice.
05-19-2005, 02:24 AM
GazC

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sampsa

Yes in PCMark04 which benefits ALOT from HyperThreading/SMP but in games which doesn't support HT/SMP FX-55 is the best choice.

But considering your clocks there are in the same ball park as phase cooled FX-55s there is potential there for them to tread on the FX series toes in general.
05-19-2005, 04:13 AM
Zebo

AWESOME!!
RAID raptors + 3500chip(s) = 11,000???:D

55/57 = dodo bird?
05-19-2005, 04:31 AM
[XC] leviathan18

sampsa but what is going to happen when games comes multithreaded??? they are going to run a lot faster in any athlon64 x 2 so you have a chip that perfoms great now and will perfom better with time :D
05-19-2005, 04:50 AM
Sampsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by leviathan18

sampsa but what is going to happen when games comes multithreaded??? they are going to run a lot faster in any athlon64 x 2 so you have a chip that perfoms great now and will perfom better with time :D

Yes :)
05-19-2005, 04:53 AM
Kanavit

wow, big congratulations on PCmark04 WR Sampsa. will A64 X2 4800+ work with Asus A8V deluxe?
05-19-2005, 05:14 AM
mike

Very impressive - great score. Now Intel is also de-throned form that benchmark...
05-19-2005, 05:19 AM
Moonman

Very well. :clap:

Tell us something about PSU unit.
05-19-2005, 05:19 AM
DazzXP

UT 2007 and Unreal 3 has been confirmed to be multi treaded Psyics & Ai is used on one core while the Graphics is used with the video cards on the other core.
05-19-2005, 05:19 AM
Kunaak

LN2 or Dry Ice?
05-19-2005, 05:29 AM
k|ngp|n

Great results sampsa :toast:
05-19-2005, 06:17 AM
Sampsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by k|ngp|n

Great results sampsa :toast:

Thanks and please remember we work as a team with Kamu :)
05-19-2005, 10:28 AM
vapb400

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kunaak

LN2 or Dry Ice?

look at the temp display :p:
05-19-2005, 10:35 AM
Sampsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by vapb400

look at the temp display :p:

14,8 C

Pic is taken before the tests. LN2 was used but like I said, I believe the CPU wasn't limiting factor.
05-19-2005, 10:43 AM
Charles Wirth

:toast: Now to find out how low you set the bar.
05-19-2005, 10:53 AM
Sampsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by FUGGER

:toast: Now to find out how low you set the bar.

Really low. 1st run was 9078 and 2nd run 9364. That's it. Like I said, we'll get more into this after Computex :)
05-19-2005, 12:36 PM
5-Clicks

wow very impressed! great job! :toast:

i too would like to hear some things about those power supplies...
05-19-2005, 01:05 PM
Sampsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5-Clicks

i too would like to hear some things about those power supplies...

It's two 430W server AT PSUs combined with 460W ATX PSU == 1320W custom made power supply by Kamu :)
05-19-2005, 10:14 PM
DazzXP

What voltage was used?
05-19-2005, 10:25 PM
Sheik

Nice to see the 4800+ is working on the DFI :D

Did you need a special BIOS ?

Well done :toast:
05-19-2005, 10:33 PM
Sampsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheik

Nice to see the 4800+ is working on the DFI :D

Did you need a special BIOS ?

I used 5/10 BIOS which had A64 X2 support and worked fine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DazzXP

What voltage was used?

1,6V
05-19-2005, 10:40 PM
LardArse

Good job Sampsa + Kamu! :toast:
Maybe you can tell me more when we meet at Computex! :)
05-20-2005, 01:04 AM
Sampsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by LardArse

Good job Sampsa + Kamu! :toast:
Maybe you can tell me more when we meet at Computex! :)

Thanks :toast:

I just got a word from Futuremark that they are trying to update the ORB before the weekend.

Lardarse, I sent you a PM.
05-20-2005, 02:38 AM
NeVeRLiFt

Great job Sampsa.
05-20-2005, 02:58 AM
Sampsa

Now it's offical:

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm04=2961306
05-20-2005, 03:34 AM
Pejsen

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sampsa

Now it's offical:

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm04=2961306

Nice :)

And congratz on the nice results!
05-20-2005, 03:35 AM
ADT

What was the highest screenshot-stable speed?
05-20-2005, 09:11 AM
Kristian

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeguava

Very impressive - great score. Now Intel is also de-throned form that benchmark...

I'd like to see an Intel Dual core on liquid nitrogen and HT off before committing to that statement. The two Intel systems both had hyperthreading on which makes PCmark04 run slower.

I still like my setup though. With 8276 points on water.....
05-21-2005, 02:22 PM
Hans.Gruber

You have been beaten..

;)

Found it here.

That dude thinks that it's real.. at least i got that impression. :D
05-21-2005, 02:43 PM
PetNorth

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hans.Gruber

You have been beaten..

;)

Found it here.

That dude thinks that it's real.. at least i got that impression. :D

impossible...
fake like the hell...
05-21-2005, 02:49 PM
jellybeard999

Quote:

Originally Posted by PetNorth

impossible...
fake like the hell...

if you read the posts, he had various "unbelievable" scores in 3d01 etc too...

plus he thinks a cpu is cooled by a res, and is at 0*c by only active cooling...

so i agree ;)
05-21-2005, 03:30 PM
Sampsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hans.Gruber

You have been beaten..

;)

Found it here.

That dude thinks that it's real.. at least i got that impression. :D

hehe, think that fake will disappear soon :D
05-21-2005, 04:01 PM
(sin)morpheus

Great stuff, glad to see amd bashing intel in multithreading for once. :D
05-21-2005, 05:14 PM
[XC] leviathan18

SAMPSA GREAT JOB you make me feel sad that i cant have a chip like yours :( but i hope you can clock it higher and break some more records with that baby
05-21-2005, 05:34 PM
[XC] moddolicous

wow, nice job sampsa. We need this CPU up to 3.4, then we will see some nice results. (9500 is next goal).
05-21-2005, 10:29 PM
Sampsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by moddolicous

wow, nice job sampsa. We need this CPU up to 3.4, then we will see some nice results. (9500 is next goal).

Yes, more tests will be done when I get back from Computex 2005. I've been working my ass off with Dual Core Review for my site: Muropaketti.com

I'll be flying to Hong Kong on Tuesday, spend few days over there and then fly to Taiwan. I hope to see G70 and R520 there and lots of more :)
05-22-2005, 06:09 AM
[XC] leviathan18

if you can tell us if the g70 will be 90nm that would be great sampsa :D
05-22-2005, 11:00 AM
Sampsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hans.Gruber

You have been beaten..

;)

Found it here.

That dude thinks that it's real.. at least i got that impression. :D

http://www.futuremark.com/community/halloffame

The cheater with 14k has been removed.
05-22-2005, 11:52 AM
[XC] leviathan18

OMG that guy is just ............. how in the world he can say that his system can score 14k fugger has the fastest intel system right now and sampsa the fastest amd system and they are below 10k......
05-22-2005, 12:36 PM
Vapor

Congrats Sampsa!!!

As for the 14k guy, he also has tried to claim that he's getting 15000+MB/s in Sandra with some crappy DDR2....anyway, glad to see that score has been taken down.
05-22-2005, 12:42 PM
Charles Wirth

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=63028

Sampsa could you give systool a go? I want to see how your 2 threads compares to my 4 :D
05-22-2005, 01:35 PM
jellybeard999

anybody know how the s940 x2s fare ?... i guess theyre for server use...
05-22-2005, 07:58 PM
Sampsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by FUGGER

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=63028

Sampsa could you give systool a go? I want to see how your 2 threads compares to my 4 :D

Sure, when I bench next time. Calculation with 4 threads seem to be quite fast :)
05-22-2005, 11:10 PM
maoten

Very impressive! Result and u have done a really great Work!! :clap:
Hope to see more challenging benchmarks about AthlonX2
05-23-2005, 10:35 PM
dimcar

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With Ht off, 9222 at 4,6GHz.. I am going more, as soon as i return home..!
05-23-2005, 10:45 PM
Sampsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by dimcar

With Ht off, 9222 at 4,6GHz.. I am going more, as soon as i return home..!

So turning HT off from Pentium EE 840 makes it better in PCMark04?
05-23-2005, 10:55 PM
dimcar

Yes, a lot better, between 5-10%. From what i have seen, when HT is on, at 4,7-4,8Ghz, the CPU finds it difficult to "sync" all 4 threads. The bars at the 2 first tests have a very strange movement. But when HT is off, it works absolutely perfect. I have seen the same behaviour with WorldBench also, where EE is faster with HT off.
05-23-2005, 11:03 PM
Sampsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by dimcar

Yes, a lot better, between 5-10%. From what i have seen, when HT is on, at 4,7-4,8Ghz, the CPU finds it difficult to "sync" all 4 threads. The bars at the 2 first tests have a very strange movement. But when HT is off, it works absolutely perfect. I have seen the same behaviour with WorldBench also, where EE is faster with HT off.

Ok, so 5 GHz should score around 9500 and 5,5 GHz could make 10000.
05-23-2005, 11:10 PM
dimcar

I am sure i cannot hit 5,5 with Vapo. :D
I will post my results tomorrow. The only thing is that Futuremark doens't leave me publish the results... :confused:
05-24-2005, 12:37 AM
Sampsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by dimcar

I am sure i cannot hit 5,5 with Vapo. :D
I will post my results tomorrow. The only thing is that Futuremark doens't leave me publish the results... :confused:

Maybe it's because the CPU is now Pentium D and those CPUs aren't launched yet. (Intel has so far only launched Pentium EE 840).
05-24-2005, 01:02 AM
dimcar

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I guess... the CPU is not recognized at all.....
06-02-2005, 06:33 PM
Puni Puni Poemy

So am I safe in assuming if I get a Vapo LS... 4800+ and good DFI mobo.... I could reach 3Ghz per core easy? Because I will settle with 250Mhz HTT x 12 Multi for my daily desktop system....
06-02-2005, 06:46 PM
jkabaseball

oh boy, i thought you were talking about getting the x2 up to 5.5 GHz, i was about to wet myself.

ANyway, nexi job guys, the PCmark04 is going to get smashed when Dual core becomes avaiable to everyone.
06-09-2005, 06:40 AM
xgman

Sampa, what do you think your X2 would hit on high end water only?
06-09-2005, 06:42 AM
Sampsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by xgman

Sampa, what do you think your X2 would hit on high end water only?

Around 2700 - 2850 I guess..
06-09-2005, 07:03 AM
xgman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sampsa

Around 2700 - 2850 I guess..

That's about 300mhz less than my 55 hits or maybe 300-400 less than what the 57 will hit. Can the X2 make up the difference in performance without chilling?
06-09-2005, 07:03 AM
xgman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Troman

and it is 1MB cache each core?.
total of 2?

yes.
06-09-2005, 12:22 PM
s7e9h3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by xgman

That's about 300mhz less than my 55 hits or maybe 300-400 less than what the 57 will hit. Can the X2 make up the difference in performance without chilling?

Umm, the x2 is dual core. Therefore it's recognized as 2 logical procs. There's no way in hell that a single 55 or 57 for that matter will even touch the x2's scores in PCMark... ;)
06-15-2005, 01:41 AM
dropadrop

Quote:

Originally Posted by Troman

shoudln't 2Mb on a64 own superpi? :stick:

It's 1MB per core. Unless the program runs multible threads, it will only use one core.
06-15-2005, 02:25 AM
ZxCs

Just realised that Sampsa was knocked off the pcmark04 top spot :( . Any ideas why the 4600+ (with 512kb less cache) scored higher than its 1mb counterpart?
06-15-2005, 03:14 AM
Sampsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZxCs

Just realised that Sampsa was knocked off the pcmark04 top spot :( . Any ideas why the 4600+ (with 512kb less cache) scored higher than its 1mb counterpart?

OPB had alot better platform (64-bit OS, higher memory, higher FSB, hard drives in RAID). Good work! :toast:

Unfortunately I'm busy with another thing currently :cool:
06-15-2005, 01:58 PM
bravoman10001

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sampsa

OPB had alot better platform (64-bit OS, higher memory, higher FSB, hard drives in RAID). Good work! :toast:

Unfortunately I'm busy with another thing currently :cool:

Good luck with your next try.
06-15-2005, 04:17 PM
Signal0101

Sorry if a liitle off topic......Fugger, not sure if you have been asked this before, but on the main page of xtremesystems, it says that there is a mod for Vapochill coming soon. I have been patiently waiting and checking back for over a week now. Can you give a little insight when we might expect this mod? Reason being is that I recently sold my FX55 and both 6800 u's and awaiting x2 4800 and G7800 GTx's (not yet released). This would be one of the best things that could happen to anyone owning a Vapo (if of course it did not impact stability due to lots of additional condensation and other unforseen implications. Thanks in advance.

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