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anyone have any experience with the OCZ EL-DDR PC3500?
ocprices.com were doing a review on a roundup of ddr, and it was able to break 500mhz cas2 on fastest timings using 2.85V
im thinking about getting a pair of them and stuffing it into an epox 8rda+
i just read that they have ddr500 cas2's using 4ns chips coming out soon, i think i will wait for those
I ordered a stick and should have it by tomorrow or friday.
I'll post some results as soon as I have it. Will be nice to compare it with my Corsair 3500 stick.
Me too :banana:Quote:
Originally posted by gokickrocks
anyone have any experience with the OCZ EL-DDR PC3500?
ocprices.com were doing a review on a roundup of ddr, and it was able to break 500mhz cas2 on fastest timings using 2.85V
im thinking about getting a pair of them and stuffing it into an epox 8rda+
:-O
To say the true, I don't belive this review..look at the timings, threre is jo chance that someone will hit such high speed 2\ those timings..especially beacuse all the IT7\IT7-2 (not IT7-2 v.2) users so far can't run their mem with aggresive timings@high speed.Quote:
Originally posted by gokickrocks
ocprices.com were doing a review on a roundup of ddr, and it was able to break 500mhz cas2 on fastest timings using 2.85V
I saw quite a few review with people hitting 490 range , also I think opainter has gone father with his It7
The EL PC3500 OCZ is running so far so good on my machine. :)
but Ryan still owe me a dinner thou :(
Maybe if you would leave the office before midnight we could go
Guys.....I just DON'T believe that it can do DDR500 with Cas 2-2-2.....It's IMPOSIBLE.....I think S-Sandra 2003 DID it again!!!!.....TOO Many "bags" this prog.....Anyways....for those who are going to buy it....HAVE LUCK...!!!
Here's the screnie of the OCZ stuff.....with Cas 2-2-2.....
http://www.ocprices.com/ben/PC3200/sandra.jpg
....and here is mine at the same frequency with Cas 2-2-3....If I could run it at Cas 2-2-2 , I would have had OVER 3900Mb/s Memory bandwidth.....This is a 512Mb Corsair XMS3200 C2 one....
But not with such aggresive timings. it's impossible.Quote:
Originally posted by ryanpgroovy
I saw quite a few review with people hitting 490 range , also I think opainter has gone father with his It7
Maybe I'll pick some up today and check it. I need something that can hit close to 500 on some nice timings. I know for one thing. Geil can't do it :(
good luck...
Why are you all so interested in the timings, over 220fsb the timings make little difference (on my amd at least), maybe a few mb/s on unbuffered scores but in the noise for standard test. And sandras crap we the overclocking community should find a better memory only benchmark.
]JR[
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Originally posted by DoGMaN
Maybe I'll pick some up today and check it. I need something that can hit close to 500 on some nice timings. I know for one thing. Geil can't do it :(
'Nice' timings really dont §§§§ at fast ram speeds. Maybe they help your 3dmark scores out some. Please tell you use your computer for something more than 3dmark2001 right?
Running at the slowest ram timings is fine on a p4 unless you are running 1:1, and maybe 4:5, high fsb's + 3:4 = YOU DON'T NEED CAS 2-2-2-5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Instead of dropping 200 bucks on some ram, why not drop 200 bucks on granite bay... that will do you more good.
hipro5
I think it took much voltage and most people wont be able to hit it
, but Opainter hit higher I beleive at 2-2-7-3
Well maybe not for some things it doesn't , but my 8RDA+ mem scores drop a good bit when I relax them, Sandra FWIW.Quote:
Originally posted by lefthandedgoat
'Nice' timings really dont §§§§ at fast ram speeds. Maybe they help your 3dmark scores out some. Please tell you use your computer for something more than 3dmark2001 right?
Running at the slowest ram timings is fine on a p4 unless you are running 1:1, and maybe 4:5, high fsb's + 3:4 = YOU DON'T NEED CAS 2-2-2-5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Instead of dropping 200 bucks on some ram, why not drop 200 bucks on granite bay... that will do you more good.
BTW Those are still some sweet scores in Sandra, most I could get was 3641/3426 . and thats pretty good for an AMD system. Of course it wasn't heavy benchworthy at that speed.
XMS3500c2
Wrong again...!!!.....You can't EVEN reach this with an OCZ memory module NO MATTER WHAT....even with MORE voltage...!!!...Can you???...Quote:
Originally posted by ryanpgroovy
hipro5
I think it took much voltage and most people wont be able to hit it
, but Opainter hit higher I beleive at 2-2-7-3
Hipro, dont say it cant be done if you havent used it.
It can't be done nowdays....perhaps later on..... ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Sinnah
Hipro, dont say it cant be done if you havent used it.
Where's OPP when you need him... :)
If I had my SWEET ASUS P4B533-E Mobo,this ram could do 257MHz(514MHz DDR) or even 258MHz(516MHz DDR),but I have stucked with this ABIT IT7-Max2 think for the time been and that's it.....Perhaps later on.... ;)
The memory just cost too much. $200+ a pop. NO WAY!!!!
Yes I understand the concern for fast memory timings on an AMD system, but we are talking p4 here.. Synch the ram with the fsb, and yes ram timings make a big difference, run your ram at balls to the wall speed, then no. (3:4 ratio with a high fsb)Quote:
Originally posted by muzz
Well maybe not for some things it doesn't , but my 8RDA+ mem scores drop a good bit when I relax them, Sandra FWIW.
BTW Those are still some sweet scores in Sandra, most I could get was 3641/3426 . and thats pretty good for an AMD system. Of course it wasn't heavy benchworthy at that speed.
XMS3500c2
K cool lefty................;)
woohooo
Hey Ryan,
Tell me EXACTLY how and if OCZ PC 3500EL will help me squeeze out 3-5 extra mhz fsb...
My current ram is Corsair XMS3200C2 256mb
I've got Jupiler's stick of the OCZ enhanced latency PC3500 here ... and i'm not impressed :(
It gets beaten by my trusty Corsair PC3500 on all fronts. In the IT7 MAX2 it managed to load windows at 230 MHz memory 2-5-2-2 2.9V. But 3Dmark crashed about as soon as it started. Without changing the settings we popped in the Corsair and it completed the whole bench without a hitch. 2-6-2-2 didnt work either @ 230 with the OCZ stick.
Its reached 250 MHz tight timings in that review ... I think its pure bollox. Maybe the sticks sent out for reviews are just a tad better than the ones getting sold. This one I have here wont even do 230 MHz at those timings.
236 MHz 2/7/2/3 enh is the highest I can run 3D on my rig (this is an older IT7) with this stick of OCZ. My Corsair managed 242+ (unable to test the limit because of CPU limitation). This is at 3.00 Vddr because at 2.9 it would also fail this.
I am afraid the sticks out there on the market are *slightly* less impressive than the ones used in that review. I can believe some weeks burn-in would help, but even straight from the production line the Corsair hit 238-240 with ease. This stick wont quite go there.
If it were my money, I'd shop at Corsair rather than OCZ, even though Corsair rate the 3500 with very slow timings ... its only the RESULTS which matter.
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Originally posted by JCviggen
I've got Jupiler's stick of the OCZ enhanced latency PC3500 here ... and i'm not impressed :(
It gets beaten by my trusty Corsair PC3500 on all fronts. In the IT7 MAX2 it managed to load windows at 230 MHz memory 2-5-2-2 2.9V. But 3Dmark crashed about as soon as it started. Without changing the settings we popped in the Corsair and it completed the whole bench without a hitch. 2-6-2-2 didnt work either @ 230 with the OCZ stick.
Its reached 250 MHz tight timings in that review ... I think its pure bollox. Maybe the sticks sent out for reviews are just a tad better than the ones getting sold. This one I have here wont even do 230 MHz at those timings.
236 MHz 2/7/2/3 enh is the highest I can run 3D on my rig (this is an older IT7) with this stick of OCZ. My Corsair managed 242+ (unable to test the limit because of CPU limitation). This is at 3.00 Vddr because at 2.9 it would also fail this.
I am afraid the sticks out there on the market are *slightly* less impressive than the ones used in that review. I can believe some weeks burn-in would help, but even straight from the production line the Corsair hit 238-240 with ease. This stick wont quite go there.
If it were my money, I'd shop at Corsair rather than OCZ, even though Corsair rate the 3500 with very slow timings ... its only the RESULTS which matter.
Agree, my OCZ el3500 don't beat the Corsair 3500c2
Best OC Regards
Tom Holck
Denmark
The Homeland of Prometeia
This fellow had really good luck after burn in
http://www.thecrucible.ca/reviews/OC...Benchmarks.htm
LOL thanks ryan.
Thanks to you my freind
You bought that PC-3200 unit through the retail channel am I correct ?
Where can I get one of these EL-DDR sticks??:D
OPP
Yah I bought it from hardcorecooling.com September 3, 2002.
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Originally posted by OPPAINTER
Where can I get one of these EL-DDR sticks??:D
OPP
Hi Opp,
You can get the El-DDR at:
http://www.chillblast.com/
But: no god, wait for Corsair PC4000 comming up
I have had several sticks of OCZ memory that was purchased for my computer and for a few friends.
All were rated at Pc2400 which at the time was the best you could get. None of them i could get to do that with the timings that they stated it would do. Later on they all died in about a 6 month period. Since companies that i had purchased them from have now gone where i dont know. I ended up haveing to buy name brand stuff to replace the OCZ that failed me
Jen
Hi Jen ,
You should Pm me , OCZ has been through some changes and I can help you out
Now you can get
DDR466 OCZ
http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...pecs.php?id=18
Looks pretty sweet. :D