Check it out!!! The DFI Lanparty NF3 S939 AGP MB :D
Link to pic:
http://www.hardwareasylum.com/forums...?p=430#post430
Enjoy :D
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Check it out!!! The DFI Lanparty NF3 S939 AGP MB :D
Link to pic:
http://www.hardwareasylum.com/forums...?p=430#post430
Enjoy :D
looks pretty good!
i can keep my Zippy Psu, and great oc'ing x800p now :D
Edit: Is there any place with the offical specs?
I think the ship has sailed on the need for this...really. I'm not to excited about this at all unless it costs less than an Ultra-D.
Perkam
MSI better get it together soon with a bios update to address missing bios settings with the San Diego+Neo2 or they may lose their throne of best 939 AGP overclocking board. I may have to pick one of these up.
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Originally Posted by JonEapples
There is no Best 939 AGP mobo. The neo2 had issues as well. i had 2 there were complete junk.
Thats nice Perk;)
I'm lookin forward to this board myself as I have an AGP X800 that's needs to be benched with FX-55.
X850 is a POS
Well for us that have a socket A system with a 6800GT AGP then that board will be perfect combined with some TCCD and a venice it'll be a nice upgrade.
I would assume it to be less than the Ultra-D otherwise that'd be pretty damn pathetic if it wasn't.
I've been following this info at dfi-street.com for quite some time, and it's been pretty iffy as to whether or not the board was actually coming out until someone get a spec sheet recently.
EDIT: Aright....the thread that was following that board was just closed because of some rather lame people accusing DFI of 'cloak and dagger' ethics or some stupid BS like that =/
LOL this isnt my thread ghz, you can thank echow87 for the info...Quote:
Originally Posted by G H Z
Hope you guys post benchies when you get it :)
Perkam
Wow, great marketing strategy.... Release the NF4 board first to force people to upgrade to PCIe, THEN release the NF3 S939 board after everyone who never planned on running SLI have already wasted their money on new PCIe cards.
Actually I was referring to this....Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
;)
I have requested specs on this board from DFI, they should have them to me tomorrow I'm guessing.
Forget the specs, just ship the damn things;)
Seriously, are you gonna get one for review by chance?
About a year late to the market in my book ! lol
But if it's anything like the DFI NF4 then should be the AGP board to beat.
http://www.hardwareasylum.com/forums...?p=428#post428
Official specs posted :)
Edit: G_H_Z...Yes I'm sure I'll be getting one for review over at Hardware Asylum ;)
i been waiting for this board for a long time and enough is enough i wont even bother now, i dont know why they even said they would release this board and be so late, i can see a month or 2 but geez its been so long now who wants to buy this, this board should have been out in november/december
Thank God! I'm so fed up w/ my Neo 2. I want to stay agp though b/c of my 6800gt golden sample. I hope these ship soon.
If the reviews are good, i might swap this in for my Neo2! Since it's being released so late on, they should have ironed out all the bugs i hope! :)
i think the board layout is curious.
anyone notice that all 4 sata plugs are together? and the +12v connector is finally in a good spot?
Hmmm I could use one of these boards....will follow with interest.
What I don't get is why they don't use NF4. Is NF4 native PCI-E only?
Not everybody jumped to PCI-E yet, and those who did didn't just toss their AGP 6800Ultra in the garbage. Great AGP cards are out there so I don't see this as a uneccesary release, better late then never. There's still a market out there for AGP, I'm one of them. If I can buy a awesome performing, stable board to pair with my AGP 6800GT for <$150, that would be great. Hopefully reviews will come soon.
Think nf4-d modded for nf3 :hehe:
Bet it looks VERY familiar now...
20pin psu :(
3.2vdimm :(
under the specs only says 4 sata when the picture clearly shows 8 :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
for the sake of 939 hope it's as good as the 754 version
that's probably a marketing sample, again..
board will probably be exactly the same as the UT just 939pin... too bad they waiting too long and newark will be out before this board is available so there's no reason to get it :(
NF3 Ultra-D LANPARTYQuote:
Originally Posted by Dissolved
NF3 Ultra UT?
What's the newark?Quote:
too bad they waiting too long and newark will be out before this board is available so there's no reason to get it
This board will be perfect for the likes of me looking to upgrade from a socket A system. Currently using an XP-M and an NF7-S v2, with some good TCCD, a 6800GT and a nice strong PSU....combined with a venice this will be a sweet upgrade :D
1.95v for the chipset is pretty nice, 3.2v dimm is decent, but I honestly thought they might provide 3.5 or even perhaps be extremely lucky and push it to 4v like the NF4 boards =/ oh well, 3.2 will be more than sufficient for the likes of me with TCCD.
I just REALLY hope I can fit an XP120 on there. I'd have a really hard time justifying a move from my Neo2 if I can't.
For those who say it's too late and no one will buy it, you're wrong. There are heaps of people with Neo2's and the like out there that don't want to upgrade graphics cards just to get a new CPU. I for one don't want to sell my 6800 just yet, as I bought it only 6 months ago.
It's great i've finally been able to see a pic, I bet a lot of people have been waiting for at least something like this. Can't wait 'til I can get my hands on one!
---dens
guess what i was trying to say is, besides people who are looking for a performance increase , people who have all ready moved to an agp s939 board most likely wont be buying this as they allready upgraded, thats not most of us here who will probably be buying one, but normal folk who just upgraded and thats it for the next 2 years. in many aspects dfi missed the boat on the majority of people upgrading to s939 who kept their old agp cards and gave msi a nice lead in the market for agp s939 boards, and most of the people who upgrade afterwards unless they have an expensive vid card (not everyone buys a x800 or 6800u) will be upgrading to whats new on the market for some future proofing.
but hey ill be buying one unless something like the r520 card and a nice sapphire ati chipset board comes out before it.
:2cents:
if dfi will sell it in a cheap price (like the msi ) so he can have nice piece of tha cake.
very nice vdimm for s-939 board.
well done dfi :toast:
why only up to 3.2vdimm ?
woo hoo! I can keep my 9800pro and finally get a DFI board for high memory voltage. this neo2 is ok, but i liked my dfi nf3 board muchos better
Looking at the picture, it'll be extremely tight between the AGP slot and the heat pipes. a matter of 1-2mm. It will also depend on the type of card and cooling you're using. The 120 on an NF4 blocks the first PCI-E slot so if it does work on this board I will be very surprised.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeNs
Oh my god! Luckily I hold my upgrade from K8N NEO2 to NF4! I can now save lots of money! No need to upgrade my X800Pro AGP! :woot: :woot:
this thing is going to be amazing i hope, as long as the voltages are stable, and with DFI bios support, im excited
Tad dissapointed in the vdimm tbh, would have liked to have seen a little higher. 3.5 would have been nice...
Gonna wait for reviews, but looks like this neo2 might have to tide things over until PCI-E calls, pushing up to 270*10 which appears to be maxing mem, cpu and mobo at the same time... Lovely stuff....
Damn it, this makes my next upgrade so much more complicated. I could get this, and I would only have to replace my s754 motherboard and processor, or I could just wait and get a newark, or I could ditch my AGP 6800 Ultra as well as my processor and motherboard and go NF4. The only reason I'm considering ditching it is because it doesnt clock terribly well, but I haven't really tried too hard, just upped the frequencies in coolbits. Anyway, great to see DFI is finally getting their foot in the door for NF3 939, although it is a little late. Hey, I'll take it though!
Agreed. :toast: I would love to replace my Epox 9NDA3+ with one of these - I have always felt my overclocks were being held back by my mobo. About the XP-120, it is going to be really tight - the heat pipes may encroach on the AGP slot. I guess we could use an XP-90 or XP-90C instead. The fan would be a little louder, but the Venice chips run incredibly cool so they should be enough. :slobber:Quote:
Originally Posted by DeNs
newark = :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nubius
and with the vdimm topping out at 3.2v, it looks like it's based off the 3.3v rail, which probably means a modded bios will allow the same 4v range as the current dfi nf3 'has' ;)
I'm gunna have to sleep on this..... Sell the Neo2 go DFI, sell the CBBID and get Venice... hmmm
That's exactly what I was wondering, after seeing that, I figured it wouldn't be a problem for TicTac or someone alike to mod the BIOS to allow up to 4. Like I said earlier, even 3.5v would be nice and more than adequate for me.Quote:
and with the vdimm topping out at 3.2v, it looks like it's based off the 3.3v rail, which probably means a modded bios will allow the same 4v range as the current dfi nf3 'has'
Thanks for the newark link BTW, I see it's socket 754 though so yeah that's definitely not a feasible route that I'd like to go, although I hear they might have the dual core mobiles be moving to socket 939 which would indeed be freaking awesome.
I wish the mobile were standard socket 939, that'd be pimp, it'd almost be like the XP-M days aggain :D
The Neo2 platinum is indeed a good board, seen as the best OC'er for nf3 AGP, but as far as I've heard it can be buggy from time to time, so hopefully this DFI will solve that. I've been holding out on AMD64 for this DFI board specifically....if for whatever reason it winds up not coming out I'm just going to have to bite the bullet and sell my 6800GT and upgrade from there, which sucks because it's all nice and burned in now :(
San Diego here I come!
I hope DFI release a 754 with pic-e, so you can have the advantages of runnin a mobile chip and pci-e.
That'd be nice too.
That aint gonna happen. As far as I know NF4 = strictly PCI-E.....socket 754 = strictly nf3......nf3 = strictly AGP
Adding PCI-E to socket 754 which AMD has already announced would be discontinued would be like going backwards as far as new technology goes
Ha, two people quoting me in one thread? That's gotta be a record.Quote:
Originally Posted by wickedld9
Like Nubius said, it's very unlikely that this will happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by =[PULSAR]=
Anyway, It really pisses me off that they've got the CPU socket in the same place as the Neo2. I'm sure they've got their reasons for not having the mem sockets on the side of the board like the UT 754 (i.e. having the CPU PWM's there would mean they'd have to put them above at the top of the board, which won't be close to the 12v and ATX connectors).
I've waited so damn long for this board, and if people need to do some cap-bending just to get a fkn XP120 on there like for Neo2's, then i'll be slightly miffed. However, it's not that I don't appreciate all the hard work that DFI have put into it, just that if after all this we can't put one of the most popular coolers of today onto the board, then damn, that's just one hell of a letdown.
---dens
I concur with this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dissolved
My GB Ultra kicks the snot outta my NEO2
And it has since day 1
I looks similar, but the regulation circuit is much different.Quote:
Originally Posted by mad mikee
I hope folks that jump on this don't have the same dumb issues their NF4 version has with cold booting.
Maybe thats why they finally released it.....
:D
I saw that poll about the cold booting issues.....what exactly was the problem because I don't leave my computer on 24/7 so technically I'll be 'cold booting' once every single day =/
The term "Cold booting" is rather ambiguous, as people have referred to it as:
1) Booting after long periods of being off
2) Booting when sub-zero (though this should be referred to as a below-0 boot issue or something)
---dens
only 3.2v vdimm... back at cebit when i saw this board the first time i was told it would have up to 4v vdimm :(
I really hope this board is great. If it'll allow me to buy a venice or diego and keep my current setup it would be wonderful. If its as good as the 754 board I've got they've got at least one customer! :D
yea i was kinda expecting 3.2vdimm onlyQuote:
Originally Posted by saaya
cause i have a picture of a old reference board with only 20pin connector.. good thing i have a powerstream.. might get myself this board just to try it out..
Hope it gets released soon...
Been having to many problems with my Neo2 lately :stick:
I was referring to booting up after it being shut down for awhile/ overnight.
Not the cold bug of AMD.
I remember seeing a comparison review between AGP and PCI-E awhile ago and didnt seem too show much difference. Is there that big of a diff between NF3 and NF4? Really makes you think about getting this board when you can get an X850XTPE AGP for $530 less than the PCI-E version.
how wonder how msi would feel if they heard a crap load of msi neo2 users ditched their boards for this new one
well there's a nf4-4x for 754Quote:
Originally Posted by Nubius
The asus K8N4-E
- AMD Socket 754 Athlon 64/Sempron CPU
- NVIDIA® nForce™ 4 4X
- PCI Express Architecture
- PEG Link
- Precision Tweaker
- AI NET2
- Dual RAID
I just can't understand how it can take them that long to release a 939 AGP board. It's come way too late and the only thing I can see it selling well is if they are priced well.
My guess is they have been working on fixing the temp issues with the vdimm derived from the 5v rail, have failed a long time thus delaying the board, and finally settle with 3.2vdimm max to get the board out.
Seems as if Abit figured a nice way of providing upto 3.5vdimm on their new AN8 without excess heat generated from the mosfets.
This vdimm battle is so nice.
I need 3.4vdimm without the need for active cooling, otherwise i go Dothan-amok!!!
won't tictac be able to mod the BIOS to allow for 4v dimm....isn't that what he did for the skt 754 nf3?
Yeah. His BIOS enables up to 4v VDIMM on the DFI Lanparty NF3 250gb socket 754
I certainly hope he can on this new board.
The phrase "a day late and a dollar short" comes to mind. They had over a year they "missed" out on while leaving users with suck arse products like MSI, EPOX..hell ABIT and ASUS did'nt even make a NF3 939. So most everyone already made move to platform with future, with PICe, NF4 if they don't already have a 939AGP board they happy with. Either way I can't see this being a hot seller no matter how good it is.
that's an even better phase:)Quote:
I think the ship has sailed on the need for this
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Originally Posted by =[PULSAR]=
Ya wait till r520 comes and you can't get it in AGP, then you really :upset: you hung with a card and a slot with zero resale value
yeah its gonna be out june/july just as the first gen non agp cards come out. my neo2 will last till then. also since the dfis seem to take a while to iron out the problems it could be a while till its worth having. hopefully if they make on the ati chipset dfi board wont be as late in the game as this.
this board better be flawless..........even the first revision
However...ATI has said Fudo will be released in both pciE and AGP. AGP isnt going anywhere soon folks.
Need more Vdimm, i hope Tictac can mod bios for 4Vdimm or maybe voltmod...
My Gigabyte NF3 939 is a pretty damn good overclocking board, you just need an OCZ memory booster for hard core stuff... DFI's are good boards but I think they are relying on their uber-fanboys to make this very late release successful. Either that or people with crappy MSI's and Epox 939 NF3. Only one guy has brought up the Gigabyte, don't forget those!
there are hundreds out there that will be getting this one
I agree...Quote:
Originally Posted by Zebo
This is really only good for those on SocketA with high end AGP cards... personally I think an "upgrade" from 754 AGP to 939 AGP is foolish... you will see little to no gains for all your troubles.
But for those with high end AGP on SocketA it is great... they get to keep their current 20pin PSU and video card... only a board, CPU and HSF is required... not bad
I'm getting rid of all AGP related hardware and you folks should do the same ;)
Regarding this board I expect since its based on nforce3 to be alot more trouble-free than the freaking nforce4 based mobos..
the nf4 754 board doesnt have an agp slot afaik...
and tic tact enabled higher vdimm by unlocking those features, its not possible to provide that high vdimm on a board that isnt built for it.
it only works on boards that use the 5v rail to derive vdimm, and im sure thats what the new asus board does to get 3.5v :)
maybe dfi wont ever release that board... i think its too late for a 939 agp board...
I'd love to have one. Would make for a great folding platform.
With all these other options coming up now the only people I can see really going for a board like this are people like me who are fed up with their current NF3 939 option and want a decent board for their 939 chip.
I've been considering the fact that if they're going to take much longer that i'm gonna consider going to 754, with the only drawback I can see being a single-channel mem controller. Apart from that the DFI UT 754 board would be an ideal board for me.
---dens
heh that's me then. I don't want to go PCI-E, since i quite like my 6800, and i know that r520 will be released on AGP. Therefore, this means as you say, i can get new mobo, cpu and hs, coming in all to about £300 or less, hopefully. Then in a year or twos time when AGP support is stopped, i can keep the 939 chip/hsf, and get a new pci-e gpu and mobo, again coming to no more than £300. Works perfectly from where i'm standing, and as long as these are reasonably cheap (say less than £80) then i'll have one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rabbi_NZ
What's the ETA on this thing? If it's as good an overclocker as the dfi nf4, I'm definitely interested. What's been causing the delay of this board, I believe I've seen this picture before somewhere, last year at some convention.
hope they come out soon ! i have to much money invested in my 6800's to go NF4 ! and now i have a Winchester 3000+ sitting here with no mobo. if the bord is good i'll put this uber Venice in it, and then finally see how far it will go. i'm presently suck at 290HTT :( then the winnie can go in the Neo2 ;) ya thats the plan ...
Any update on this board? I havent heard a peep in a while :(
If the Grouper board comes out with a "9800Pro" class onboard graphics, this board is useless.
Sell your current AGP board and your gfx, buy the grouper, use onboard gfx untill you can afford a PCI-E gfx card. Done deal! :D
I mailed DFI last week, they answered that they start production of the MB this week (they said "next" week last week so . . .).
Quite a good news! Hope that they will be out on the market soon :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by NEC
I really want to get rid of my NEO2..... the vdimm is only up to 2.85V which is definitely not enough for my 2 pairs of BH-5 512MB :rolleyes: :slapass:
I have high hope on this, don't let me down, DFI :toast:
don't worry.. looks good at the moment :D
http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12885
and for aussies :D
http://www.nintek.com.au/x/scripts/p...idProduct=1848
I doubt i'll grab one over my Neo since there are rumours that there will be new Neo2 bioses that support more timings (Prob just Trc and Trfc though). But i doubt they will allow more then 10% Over VID :(
I guess its time for a vcore volt mod or i'll live without the extra timings (my ram survives with the 166 divider pretty well, though they would be handy).
I would only buy the DFI if it was cheap, and i highly doubt that its going to be that..
But hey, if crunch comes to crunch this is probably the board to get!
it is listed as 160 canadian on NCIX if i'm not mistaken.. so when it reaches here shouldn't be much more expensive.. TMM = T M ? :)
nope, different personQuote:
Originally Posted by babyelf
;)
heh ok ok
Yeah the T_M (or tim) is the one that frequents i4memory and OCAU, not this one.
I swear babyelf, you're watching like EVERY forum's NF3 Ultra-D thread looking for new info. Like me :D With A_G getting it next week hopefully, we'll see some results in the not too distant future.
Oh, and also TMM, the only vCore mod for the Neo2 that I know of is kyocen's one, which involves trace cutting. Good fun. There may be others by now, but I haven't looked up vMods for this board since its release.
If this board is even under AU$250, i'll be happy :P However i'm willing to settle for less.
---dens
i think it should be under 250... don't think it's gonna be that expensive cause :
1. it's nf3
2. it's lanparty UT not lanparty
lol my name is Tim aswell :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by DeNs
If its worth it (bios w/ mem timings but no overVID over 10%), then cutting traces it shall be! :banana:
This mobo will come out very early, around 10 days.
Alright, I am holding my breath till it comes out :explode:Quote:
Originally Posted by linhvndiy
Well, sort of . . . it's coming out tomorrow. :banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by linhvndiy
http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/show...&page=12&pp=15
well.... not sure whether places like Hong Kong will have stock.....Quote:
Originally Posted by NEC
anyway, great news to those who want to stick to AGP cards :woot:
You do realise that you can go up to about 1.85-1.9v without even modding the board? You can do it through Corecenter and with a modded BIOS. Simple :)Quote:
Originally Posted by TMM
---dens