Finally got me a few nVidia 6800 Ultra cards, MSI.
I'm gunna test them on a couple of Swiftech MCW-50 Tec blocks today.
Looks like fun, see if I can't get into the Top 20 on the ORB:D
OPP
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=27400&stc=1
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Finally got me a few nVidia 6800 Ultra cards, MSI.
I'm gunna test them on a couple of Swiftech MCW-50 Tec blocks today.
Looks like fun, see if I can't get into the Top 20 on the ORB:D
OPP
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=27400&stc=1
Somehow I think you wont have a problem getting into the top 20 there OPP. :D
Look forward to the results as usual.
Edit: is that the DFI board?
Yeah, somehow I don't think you're going to have any problems getting into the top 20 OPP :D
Chunky: it is MSI...
Opp: If you are trying for 05, you might want to try out the newest driver 76.41 (came out today and looks like it is the fastest for 05 of the bunch)unless u whql only...
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1022
Good setup buddy,
Besure to press:
shift F2(press together) and then alt f3
and use ati/nv speed up to OC your video card.
like this you will see under bios.
http://www.devilsword.com/ms7125/test/biosnvoc.jpg
Thanks for the info guys. I still have to build a couple water loops. After that, it's on:D
OPP
looking good, what chip you using with that killer setup?
OPP,
I think the swifty's will work really well with that...
TEAR IT UP!!
MSI board, right? Looks to have GREAT spacing between cards... that's the ONLY place that DFI fell asleep with their NF4 series....
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I'll be useing a FX55.Quote:
Originally Posted by mushk1n
OPP
The DFI have the Same Spacing between slots as the MSI, they both have 1 slot between them.Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie
OPP
Before I fire this thing up, does anybody know were to measure the core voltage on these 6800s?
OPP
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=27405&stc=1
Nice OPP. So what's going to be powering those TECs? The 17X watters too or something else?
edit: Cross posted :D Here is the vcore mod for 6800U with checkpoint:
http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=926&s=1
These are 80W pelts, I have a 25amp supply here that runs at 13.7V, my Radio Shack speacil:DQuote:
Originally Posted by texuspete00
OPP
This is gonna be good! You got a taste of SLI from Equito now you want some of your own do you?! :hehe:
Be sure to pop into this thread with your results when you finish ;)
*** The XS SLI 3DMark 05 and 03 Top 10 List ***
Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
The ASUS is the only board with good spacing, but, we know how well that board does. ;)
The VREG is the same as the AGP versions. Shamino has the info right here:
http://www.vr-zone.com/index.cgi?i=926&s=1
And the memory mod:
http://www.vr-zone.com/index.cgi?i=1622&s=1
I used the VRZone info for modding, but on the VRZone picture the measure point doesn't exsist on my card, my card looks different.Quote:
Originally Posted by dwwalker14335
I have measure two places, one reads 1.58V and the other reads 1.1V, neither sound right to me.
OPP
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=27406&stc=1
Do you wanna give me one?Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
:D
Good luck with those cards :)
When I measured mine, I used the one that is directly in line with ic's 5&6, right to the left on your pic. I got around 1.42 V.Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
OPP , maybe u can do something with this
Its my XFX 6800GT
http://cranox.com/Vmods/XFX6800GT/68...E_core_mod.jpg
Well I do have that point on the card, It may be it, thanks. I'll just poke around some more when it's up and running.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cranox
OPP
how cool do them blocks get to ?Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
any special water setup you gunner create for the cards? what size rad etc ?
i think top 20 is a little optimistic dont you think :D
I'm thinking ~15c not sure thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Bennah
Opp, what are you using to power all this? :slobber:
i suppose a 520w powerstream and his radioshack unit for the pelts.
I guess the mcw50-t are just narrower than I remember... on my DFI-SLI, with default ASUS coolers there was nearly NO space!!Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
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I'm thinking OPP uses the powers of the "master" for top "3".... maybe can even take a run at #1.....Quote:
Originally Posted by µnrealneo²
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I thought the 6800U put out more than 80 watts. I'd like to see the temps on the cards - and I might have to cancel my Maze4 plans. Oh yeah, and I almost forgot: benchmarks too. Silly me.
I don't think the TEC's can handle the load, but we'll see.
not to rain on your parade or anything Opp, but a stock 6800 ultra puts out 110w, i think you need 172w's at least
try to use some sort of ram sink on the mem.
I had lost about 40 mhz from the ram when I removed the ram sinks from my 6800 in the past, then when I took the mem think off, and filed it down, to get a much tighter fit on the ram, I gained another 20-30 mhz or so by having it tight on the ram.
OPP are you going to be testing the 3500 out tonight?
cant take a joke Dave :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by µnrealneo²
expecting OPP not shooting for the top when hes ready to 3D Bench is crazy D:
I was under the impression that it had been proven with a MM that voltage is a constant ~1.4v, no separate 2d/3d or throttle volt....?Quote:
Originally Posted by µnrealneo²
But the MSI Plat. and Diamond are the same as the DFI.. I have a Diamond and use its SLI bridge on DFI at the moment as I am modding a DFI Ultra into a SLI.Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie
OP are 80Watt pelts gona be enough?
Quote:
Originally Posted by FROG
Well, I think we'll find out soon ;)
I think it'll be FINE :stick:
110w consumption guys, not 110w heat output, and not all from only the core.
Well, IC circuits are something like 99.9% consumption -> heat output?
Cool Opp :toast:
Don't forget the bags of ice and you'll be set:D
Good luck OPP.
Can't wait for teh own4g3 :rocker:
The coolers are colder then straight water so thats why I'm useing them, they will be fine untill my Cascade is ready.Quote:
Originally Posted by FROG
I'm waiting for JB weld to dry on my ehiem for my second loop. I thought I had more water stuff in my garage but my Pumps and Rads suck:D
Won't be able to play until tomorrow, I have one card now. It reads 10c.
OPP
I have the 3500 running now, it can't handle -90s, it freezes up in windows.Quote:
Originally Posted by chunkylover77
OPP
That sucks.
Was looking foward to seeing a -120c winnie
sweet, go Opp!! that board and setup looks ready to rumble man. good luck. Shamino/Lardarse, has got a head start, lets see how well you do. who's got the world '03, '05 record btw??
Sampsa and Kamu hold the WR for 05, they had FX-55 3184 w/ 2 Liquid Nitrogen cooled XFX 6800GTs and scored 12483.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanavit
I was talking about the Venice. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by althes
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid...-power_10.html
a 6800ultra does no where near 110watts according to that.
I got my first SLI bench uploaded :D
FX55+Gainward 6800U GS SLI, no overclocking => 10153
fugger was telling me the other day about a trick that works for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
I think it went something like this.
get the cascade alittle cold, like -20, boot up, and max out the voltage, let it get into windows and clockgen your way up.
the extra voltage, and overclocking from windows up while your not at your max coldness, may do the trick to keep you just warm enough to run the CPU without windows going nuts.
Oh-oh.. macci & OPP @ SLI. Watch out ;)
That's a shame about the 3500venice :( I guess you'll have to rely on the trusty fx55 :D
Little OT but ,Do u have to be rich to buy FX-55 in USA ? At least if u live in Estonia like me , any regular person cant buy it because its way expensive. Like to know hows it in USA
^^^^^ In us its around 900$
But I'm looking forward to seeing some SLi benches from Opp and more from Macci in the near future :)
As long as you don't dabble in the 6600GT class, bring on the benches. I am anxious to see the results.
Would it be possible to run a chilled alcohol at say -40 through those tec blocks :confused:
Yes but if you have a liquid that cold you might as well throw out the tec's and run a sraight block.
Alright! OPP is joining the SLI action. Excuse me while I pull to the side of the road:)
Looking forward to some interesting results!
Yeah at -40C liquid it would be more effective to not use the TECs.Quote:
Originally Posted by G H Z
Well OPP, wheres the benchies? :D
Water eh..........well i guess youve gotta get used to it first. But seriously, those guys on the top atm im sure can be taken down, true ln2 on the 2 gpus, but only a single stage on the cpu.....
Haha MAcci!! i knew it was only a matter of time before joining the SLI continuum. Nice is that stock air cooled score?
well well well... here he is :DQuote:
Originally Posted by macci
great score at stock :toast:
now let the cards and fx55 stretch thier legs :D
Quote:
Originally Posted by isp
He has a winchester, Venice doesnt seem to mind the cold much unlike the majority of winnies. No matter, the fx55 is the one to get the highest, especially in 2001 :slobber:
Left side of this resistor (+) and any ground for VGPU. Your voltage will increase once Windbloze loads the drivers so don't start too high. VR-Zone has a nice BIOS mod for an extra .1v also. I got my cards to 1.77 with pencil/BIOS mods.Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
I'm pretty sure he was trying to use pc ice's venice. Have I gone mad? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Geforce4ti4200
He said Venice didn't like -90C.... using FX55 for SLI...Quote:
Originally Posted by isp
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Yeah that's what I thought. Geforce doesn't think venice minds the cold but OPP has already tried pc ice's 3500 venice and said that it doesn't like cold temps at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie
I thought pc ice got the Venice so I assumed opp used the winny. well we know the venice is good for -40c, -90c is a whole different story which even some fx55s cant handle. I am not to worried, it depends on the cpu and I believe at least some venice and diego will take -90c
Hey opp, I'm not sure I'd use those 80watt TEc's.
at 13.7V you're looking at about 70watts of cooling power. If you put any sort of load on these cards, I'm afraid the temps will skyrocket. I would look into some 172watt 24V pelts at 24V.
You're free to do what you want, I'd just hate to see you burn up those cards.
And if you try it with those 80watt TEc's, I hope I've drastically overestimated the 6800Ultra's power consumption on the core.
Just watch the card temps.
I would have to agree. My 50-T would not handle a X800XT under load at stock volts with 13+v on the TEC. The temp would slowly climb and not stop. And that was with water cooled to around 8 C by drawing cold outside air to rad.Quote:
Originally Posted by sandman
OPP having fun on Easter? :)
I see Opp is wandering up the first page without volt mod yet using the 66.93 drivers to be fully legit.
Regards
Andy
yea 6800 ultra are about 75watts. That is 75 watts power consumption, not dissipation, im sure the heat disipation is no where near 80watts.
Wow ,that a nice not overclocked score ;) (great gt3)Quote:
Originally Posted by macci
Good luck opp and macci :toast:
idd ,I'm 1st in the 6800Nu class ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Steven
i knew it was only a matter of time before OPP got his hands on a pair of these cards...it's almost not fair! lol....
Well here's the story:D
The MCW-T blocks worked OK, 16C Idle, from what I could tell they went up to 26C load or so.
#8 in 05 and #6 in 03
3D05
3D03
My memory ran good, 1300s, the core on the other hand sucked, 470. I need to test each card seperatly and see if one card is a dog or somthing, if so I'll have to replace it.
I didn't use the mods, the cards were hot enough as it was.
Next will be with cascade cooling, an extra 100C of cooling should take care of bussiness.
OPP
Good show :toast:
Can't wait for the cascade action :D
2x6800U under cascade :slobber:
Good luck with cascade. Unfortunately -100C isn't enough :D
We'll just have to wait and see on that:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Sampsa
By the way, Congrads on the world record, great job! :toast:
OPP
You are quite funny :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Sampsa
Great work! :banana3:
Guess you had no problem making the top 20 :p:
Can't wait to see the results of the -100c Cascade Give em hell!
DGeNeRaT3
Good start with SLI OPP. :up:
So close to 25k in 03 damn...would of been a nicer number to hang your hat on...;)
That's one of the problems of SLi, you have to get 2 good cards and not 1.
Regards
Andy
Yea, I really believe that one card is holding back. The core of 470 is just plain bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by zakelwe
I won't be able to test it untill tomorrow. If it's the case, I'll replace the card and try again on my water setup before going Cascade.
OPP
3D Mark 03
Move over CPU City... OPP & Xtremesystems.org is coming through :D
3D Mark 05
Head to head!
Vapo LS / LN2 vs. Cascades.... Sampsa & Kamu (www.muropaketti.com) vs. OPP (www.xtremesystems.org)
rememeber they have backup scores 600+ core and 1400+ mem, so cascade better help out a whole lot ;)
Vapo LS / LN2 was just warming up :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Bennah
wow still very nice with just 66.93 drivers hehe wait till ya go 76.10 heheQuote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
Those aren't Futuremark approved and won't propably never be. Better to run with approved drivers so the score is legit, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
Don't make me bust out my "buggy" back-up, lol.... :p:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...chmentid=27594
Are you sure on that boss? sure it's just one slot on both but i think MSI has some more milimeters to play, I say this because one of my MCW50-T's does not fit between the cards, unless I'm doing something wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
That is a difficult question to answer to be honest. In one sense you want a driver set that has no IHV cheats, so 66.93 is the one, but on the other hand as everyone is using the same IHV in this case it does not matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sampsa
But on the other hand the top scores have been done with 66.93, which currently beats later driver with tweaks so if the later drivers are now used will that mean that the new record holder ever beat the old score and so had the fastest rig ?
But on the other hand nvidia drivers are always progressing and benching multiple drivers over time is part of the fun. It also makes people with onetime LN2 put more effort in and cost to keep up with the OEM heatsink guys with the latest drivers :p: :D
On the whole though I'd say at present 66.93 is the way to go to see who is top dog.
Regards
Andy
well i never had 66.93 drivers work in SLI for either of 2x XFX 6800GT PCI-E or 2x eVGA 6800U PCI-E on Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe and DFI NF4 SLI-D only driver that worked in SLI was 71.24, 71.25, 71.84, 75.90, 76.10 and 76.41
You guys need to get some $$ and go for the dual tyan PCI-e board.
It supports two 16x pci-e slots via two "INDEPENDENT NVIDIA CHIPSETS ON ONE BOARD" and yeilds up to a 1k lead in 3dmark 2k5 due to the increases speed.
2 opterons 248 2.2ghz =$900
tyan mobo $500
2x 6800u =you already have
4x512 ch-5 ecc/reg ram $450
http://www.hkepc.com/hwdb/tyan-x16sli-3.htm
http://www.hkepc.com/hwdb/tyan-x16sli-4.htm
Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
That's a good start OPP! Yep, it definitely takes two good cards to pull of top SLI scores. Aside from having two solid cards, I also have a secret "hint" on maximizing your overclock in SLI. PM me if you'd like:)
Having another benching sesh soon then ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sampsa
Charlie... nevar bring out that back up score :D
OPP is slowly crawling up there... instead of the usual fashion of 'BANG... #1!'
do tell :DQuote:
Originally Posted by mdzcpa
sandybeach
You can't o/c the CPU there so I don't think you can take WR. MAYBE in 05?
yeah only talking about 05 :) since 2k1 is about to be phased out 2k5 will take over as the preimer benchmark and cpu has little effect at all on score :)
plus the folding power of a dual 2.2-2.6ghz opteron setup "yum"
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bennah
I think he's refering to the use of LN2@cpu in the last runs, wich are not published yet ;)