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http://www.clubic.com/actualite-1896...-le-fx-57.html
Ok sorry the link is in french but this article is some kind weird. They said that the 4200+ will be released in Q1 and the FX-57 in Q2.
So the good news is the 4200+ is really ready to go! (Q1 is ending in the end of march) :toast:
i knew that it had to be close since sxs guy here had engineering samples of them...good news though and good find :toast:
Well thanks! But if the 4200+ is soon-to-be-released, does'nt that mean that it's the end of the FX-55???
:D O.K. - here we go:
"AMD’s Athlon 64 4200+ processor is clocked at 2.60GHz, contain 1MB of L2 cache and sport dual-channel PC3200 memory controller, copying major specs of the currently shipping AMD Athlon 64 FX-55 processor for Socket 939 infrastructure. However, the Athlon 64 4200+ is made using 90nm fabrication processor, sports SSE3 instructions as well as minor memory controller enhancements. Potentially, the chip may also fit into lower thermal envelope than the FX-55 model.
Availability of the AMD Athlon 64 4200+ processor among those affiliated with AMD may indicate approaching commercial release of the chip. Still, the launch is not inevitable just because of that.
According to unofficial sources, AMD’s Athlon 64 FX-57 processor at 2.80GHz made using 90nm Silicon-on-Insulator process technology will be released in Q2 2005. By the time the AMD Athlon 64 FX-57 hits the market, the Sunnyvale, California-based chipmaker will have launched its Athlon 64 4000+ (Q4 2004), Athlon 64 4200+ (Q1 2005) and Athlon 64 4400+ (Q2 2005), some sources said.
Advanced Micro Devices did not comment on the news-story."
SOURCE: http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...308013109.html
:confused: So maybe the new 4200 will perform better than an actual FX-55, same structure but 90nm........ :p:
What the heck will do a FX-57 then.......... :slobber: :slobber: :slobber:
:toast:
I think the answer is easy gonna make 4Ghz on cascade :DQuote:
Originally Posted by HARDCORECLOCKER
Would be nice, without the cold bug though :eek:
:D Yep, maybe - I see exciting times come up, first AMD 4GHz, 20sec SuperPI 1M............. :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by $0m#0n#
I agree I think we're definitely going to see 4ghz on cascade... :eek:
So basically we should see 4200+ 90nm pretty soon then huh.... anyone thinking what I'm thinking? used fx55s for sale, all nice and burned in :D :p:
Looks like I'll be blowing my money this summer on an FX57. We better see some of this stuff in action at CEBIT damnit, I can't take it any longer!!
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Originally Posted by isp
:lol: :lol: :lol:
non to rain on the parade, but 2nd quarter could still mean June 30th.
:D Yep - but even that would be a success, first release date Q3 could have been also September 30th.......... :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
the FX 57 seems to be insane :slobber:
:D Yep - and that's the reason I will buy one, even for $1.500......., but the major question is if the first releases will be the better one or if it will be a good idea to wait for the second or third charge......... :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bla$nA
1) Gawwwwd it would SUCK if the 90nM FX had a cold BUG, lol...
2) The 4200+ is nice.... with a locked 13x multi, it'll STILL need TCCD, as 26osih from VX won't be enuff when super-cooled! 13 x 260=3380mHz.... With TCCD, drop the multi to 12x and shoot for 300+ or use the 13x and get a nice stable 280+....
If you don't OWN VX/BH5, then there's really not a BIG reason to go FX-57 OVER 4200+, unless you just want Dresden's BEST silicon.
:D That is almost unpossible - FX-57 will be AMD's new flagship and they cannot allow themselfs such a mistake, otherwise AMD will be ruined..... :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie
can i please have some of ur money guys? u all seem to be so well off. Im contemplating a AMD64 3000 lol. Just 100 bucks from everyone is good. thanks in advance. :)
Whats wrong with running VX with a divider? I thought 1:1 was only important w/ p4 rigs.Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie
The EXACTLY same question here! :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by J-Mag
What makes you so sure AMD whont put the FX57 under a tripple cascade? :banana4:Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie
Just to make sure that is :cool:
There will probably be FX-55 90 nm... so no way it will be like 4200 > FX-55
I dont know how much amd cares for xtreme cooling, yes they fx chips are aimed at overclockers but the vast majority are on air or watercooling at above 0c which isnt cold enough for the bug. I thought the 4000+ and fx55 diego was the one to come out, did amd have a last moment change of plans and decided to one up Intel and make it 4200+ and fx57? How low will diego be available in? Maybe amd wants to milk diego with high clocks first before releasing the slower and cheaper 4000+ months later. I am curious about Venice and hope amd doesnt do something to hurt venice clocks, some say they could use ovp, others say deleberate speed binning to make sure only the best cores go to the diego. I will be happy with even just 3GHz on venice
Thats what parents are for :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
Well they obviously are well aware of extreme cooling otherwise they wouldn't have this article (Log-in required :-/ ) posted at AMDEdge.... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Geforce4ti4200
Well this will be interesting to see the cold tolerance of diegos. Its gonna need to be able to take -100c to be usable with cascades. No winny I know can handle below -30c and many cant even go into the negetives
:D There is an easier way:Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
1) One bottle of Whisky less each day !!!
2) Keep Your wife / girfriend away from shops and destroy her credit card !!!
3) Sell Your car - You won't do some clocking on the drivers seat !!!
4) Have a nice smalltalk with the friendly guy at Your bank !!!
5) Bring one cup of coffee more to Your boss every morning !!!
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Result = 1 x FX-55 / 57 !!!
:toast:
HARDCORECLOCKER
LOL what happened with just earning that much money? :) Honestly, though I'll take a 1 week vacation @ Cuba over FX-57 anyday.
Overclocking an FX to 4ghz...................Priceless :eek:
....
BUT!
See some cute ladies topless @ Cuba is priceless too!!! :slobber:
but u dont get to keep them.
Charloz24
Technically I've gone there with my gf so that is totally unlimited :D And now I can bring my Dothan with me and o/c it with clockgen heh. Honestly, though, you don't really have any inclination to do anything with computer while there.
Any hopes of an FX57 here will be solely dependant on my summer job. :p:
I'm sure there are some other broke college students around here? Heres to us... :toast: :D
yea I would rather save my money towards payments for a condo or even house over having the latest $900 cpu when a $200 cpu isnt much slower and serves all my needs just fine. Not that I am against seeing what others can do with fx57s, especially in 3dmark01 :slobber:
I hear ya isp...i deff wont be seeing a 57 or anythig else for another yr prob atleast... kinda sucks when all your $ goes to school, thankgod ohio schools are the most expencive right? :( but anyway it will deff be nice to see the benches and the ghz people get these up to
A toast to me, ISP, and the bazillion other broke college students! w00t ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by isp
as am i...........damn catholic colleges take so much friggin money......... and i'm not even catholic!
Any private school takes a lot of money.. that's what happens when state no longer subsidises..taking from the haves to the have nots..they should all be this way. Where you go creighton?
Still a few months to wait for the FX-57, then I'll see how good it really is and I'll prolly sell this nicely burned in FX-55 :D Though 3.36Ghz on a Vapo isn't bad either ;)
You should look at law schools if you want to see expensive
suckers :devil:
you all dont have an extremely rich dad who will buy your love for a few thousand every month or so...
I'm glad I don't too. I'm only 16 and used the stock market to pay for my phase change, DFI SLI-DR, 2 EVGA 6800 Ultra's, PCP&C 510 SLI with custom mods from factory, Coolermaster ATC-101b, etc, etc. My dad would never make a major purchase like that for me (because he thinks I should work for it), and I'm kinda glad to tell you the truth.
Maybe he's looking to adopt a 19 year old man? :p: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by One_Hertz
hmmm . . . . .
FX+90nm :slobber: hope thats a killer :banana:
but when wil it appear in the US
yup, i'm one :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by isp
*goes off to look for a job during the last quarter to have enough money to buy a turion*
and that french site... actually has the specs right. though that shouldn't take much effort, i'm impressed. now to include the TDP.. and the price (probably ~900-1000 as per fx-55) :banana:
:ROTF: OMG !!! That ...must be frustrating LOL ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by mrnuke
Zebo, i go to St. Louis University pretty much in downtown St. Louis.
It won't :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky 4 Finger
Just kidding ;)
If European shops start listing them, they should hit the US streets pretty soon as well :) :banana:
Don't tease us like that! :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by wimpie007
Look at my edit ;)
:D HAHA - AFAIK AMD will produce the new chips in Dresden so this time Europe comes first........... :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky 4 Finger
I thought the diego fx55 will come first? Maybe amd had a change of plans and decided to call it 4200+ instead and just release the fx57 early? cant wait for overclocks and 3dmark results
"There will probably be FX-55 90 nm... so no way it will be like 4200 > FX-55"
I think the 4200 will replace the fx-55 much like the 4000 replaced the FX-53. AMD will use only 'one' FX badge as their top of the line chip. Thus the FX-57 and nothing else, to keep things less confusing :rolleyes:
the first link has NEGATIVE stock? Does that mean preorders? Damn even if one of these things came out, i gotta wit for my G5 from Cathar.
one thing I wonder, will we need a bios update to make it work with diego and venice? are new bios out yet for those cpus?
that first site.. i've seen it before, but it looks different now. and they still have the box codes wrong, it should be ADA3x00BPBOX.Quote:
Originally Posted by cupra
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Originally Posted by rodman
maybe amd would release the fx-57 a lil earlier and hopefully later in the year there will be a fx-59 dual core...so for the first time 2 fx cpus at the same time?
FX should stay single-core as the highest performing CPU. A64's will go dual-core.
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I agree, but according to all roadmaps I've seen this isn't the case. Actually, if I'm not misstaken, won't the FX-59+ series be the only dual cores on S939?Quote:
Originally Posted by IvanAndreevich
Moreover, I'm a student too, yet I could "easily" afford (matter of definitions) stuff like the FX by working hard. Right now I'm only waiting for the FX-57, then it's sweet new riggy time. (Gonna get me some sort of vapo/prometeia too, if sub-zero bug has been fixed. Cascade would be a bit out of my budget, though. lol) :toast:
Edit: The biggest problem for me, though, is the two main characteristics of Sweden:
1) Unavailability.
2) Taxes - I only get to buy computer parts for ~42% of my earned income (rest = ~58% is lost to taxes - and yes, I am a low-income earner :rolleyes: )
AFAIK AMD confirmed that FX will stay single-core and dual-core will debut @ 2.4 GHz in the A64 flavour on the desktop ;)
Then what about Toledo?Quote:
Originally Posted by IvanAndreevich
That would be the dualcore, ie its not going to be an FXQuote:
Originally Posted by krille
any infos about FX57?? when he comes out??
maybe 4/15
:D Who buys first and does the tests on single phase........ ???Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
:toast:
According to this sticky here over at EOFC, Toledo will be FX. But, I too understand that isn't fool-proof evidence...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentential
http://forums.extremeoverclocking.co...chmentid=57162
http://forums.extremeoverclocking.co...chmentid=57257
According to these roadmaps too, it looks like Toledo is going to be FX. And I think I've read it somewhere else, as well. However, if you've got better knowledge, enlighten me, please.
yeah, thats very good, thx :banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
hope thats a killer cpu :D
He needs to update some of that info, he shows the 4200+ as being Venice core. 4400+ as venice too (Not sure about that). Also, all the prices are very out of date.Quote:
Originally Posted by krille
Very good read though all-in-all
:D We already have a lot of killers here yet - has to be an overkiller so.....Quote:
Originally Posted by FX Freak
:toast:
I was under the impression that Toledo was simply the Dual-Core chips that would support DDR whether it was FX or A64.
your FX55 is very nice :DQuote:
Originally Posted by HARDCORECLOCKER
according to this, the toledo's will be called athlon 64 d's (similar to pentium D's?)Quote:
Originally Posted by krille
LOL!! Athlon 64 D. Well, at least better than aEC2T (AMD Extended Core Dual Technology :banana: ).Quote:
Originally Posted by pik-ard v1.1
Sorry for doublepost mods, but according to that, the Toledo has a huge 2MB L2-cache - now that smells FX long way.
Does anyone have a solid price for the FX-57? I mean is it going to be around 800 like the 55 was? I plan to grab one fast this time as the 55s went through the roof (from 850-1200) after a few months, not to mention were out of stock for like 2 months :rolleyes:
I think AMD put a RRP of 1000 so my guess is it probably be somewhere around 1k to 1.2k.
Re the dual core c627627 does not know what it is going to be called he has used the "d" reference purely because Intel dual cores are referred that way.