G.Skill: world’s first Guarantee DDR600 PC4800 1T Memory

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03-05-2005, 01:26 PM
ooztuncer

G.Skill: world’s first Guarantee DDR600 PC4800 1T Memory

Welcome on board: http://www.gskill.com/release-0503.htm

The new model is F1-4800DSU2-1GBFF, a matched pair of 512MBx2 dual channel DDR memory module. These modules are tested at DDR550 PC4400 1T 2.5-3-3-7 latency setting and DDR600 PC4800 1T 2.5-4-4-8 latency setting in the configuration as below:

Motherboard: DFI LANParty UT nF4 Ultra-DVersion A02, BIOS Date 1/25/2004
Voltage setting between 2.7V to 2.9V
CPU: AMD Athlon64 3000+ (Overclock to 300*8 or 300*9)
Software: MEMTEST86+ V1.51 in DOS mode
03-05-2005, 01:32 PM
Ashe

I always thought ocz was first with their EL 4800 Platinum? :stick:
(i know they are tested 2T but still run 1T on "certain" motherboards)
03-05-2005, 02:28 PM
Tony

ALL TCCD modules rated at ddr600 will run 1T on some boards and only 2t on others, it also depends on your memory controller.
03-05-2005, 02:34 PM
skate2snow

Yes, notice the word garanteed;)
03-05-2005, 02:54 PM
saaya

so are those tested at ddr6001t or are they guaranteed at ddr6001t?
03-05-2005, 03:03 PM
skate2snow

Tested and Guaranteed
03-05-2005, 03:24 PM
Tony

Only on the DFI m8...read the whole press release
03-05-2005, 03:26 PM
bachus_anonym

DFI NF4 is what makes difference here...
Good TCCD (OCZ or Gskill) that does 275 7-3-3-2.5-1T should hit STABLE 300 7-3-4-2.5-1T with ease....
03-05-2005, 03:29 PM
saaya

im sure many people will complain as they wont be able to run 1t and wont accept that its their cpu/board holding them back...
03-05-2005, 03:46 PM
cupra

noting new here, most of the tccd can do 300mhz 2.5-4-4-8 t1 on the dfi boards.
03-05-2005, 03:46 PM
klootzakje

Quote:

im sure many people will complain as they wont be able to run 1t and wont accept that its their cpu/board holding them back...

hehe that's forsure
03-05-2005, 03:58 PM
skate2snow

Yes, but they are at least tested;).

And the difference here is not that they are able to do 300MHz T1, it is that they are GUARANTEED!
03-05-2005, 04:58 PM
StarvationPlan

Argh. When will either the ocz or the gskill ram hit the europe market. I'm buying a new comp and waiting eagerly :D

Edit. I were talking about the "new" models
03-05-2005, 05:04 PM
Theo404

http://www.pc-memory-upgrade.co.uk/

Edit: http://www.overclockers.se/catalog/p...oducts_id=1693
03-05-2005, 05:37 PM
Tony

Quote:

Originally Posted by skate2snow

Yes, but they are at least tested;).

And the difference here is not that they are able to do 300MHz T1, it is that they are GUARANTEED!

Just as OCZ's are, difference is we test on both MSI and DFI
03-05-2005, 05:45 PM
bachus_anonym

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigtoe

Just as OCZ's are, difference is we test on both MSI and DFI

are you saying that OCZ EL PC4800 is capable of stable DDR600 8-4-4-2.5-1T on Neo2 ?
Nice... Then I guess 7-3-4-2.5-1T is doable, too ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by OCZ Website

Tested to 2T, but may also run 1T on certain motherboards

So which category Neo2 falls out into ?
03-05-2005, 05:49 PM
Tony

Quote:

Originally Posted by bachus_anonym

are you saying that OCZ EL PC4800 is capable of stable DDR600 8-4-4-2.5-1T on Neo2 ?
Nice... Then I guess 7-3-4-2.5-1T is doable, too ;)

So which category Neo2 falls out into ?

No thats not what im saying, i said we test on both boards. I quoted earlier many MSI boards need 2T to run 600 stable, some will get lucky though.

The board for 1T is the DFI although i haver a feeling the Epox will be sweet also, the NF3 was with a vdimm mod.
03-05-2005, 05:55 PM
bachus_anonym

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigtoe

No thats not what im saying, i said we test on both boards. I quoted earlier many MSI boards need 2T to run 600 stable, some will get lucky though.

The board for 1T is the DFI although i haver a feeling the Epox will be sweet also, the NF3 was with a vdimm mod.

Bigtoe,

So can you honestly say that OCZ EL PC4800 is finally a good strong competition for Gskill PC4400LE or PC4800LA ?
I would love to play with it to see if it hits what my GSkill 2x512MB does - DDR640 7-3-4-2.5-1T SuperPi 16M stable on my DFI NF4.... Is it available yet?
03-05-2005, 05:57 PM
Jessfm

Then the OCZ is'nt a comparable product if its DDR600 2T, this is DDR600 1T.

As usual though, these will be very hard to find :(
03-05-2005, 06:06 PM
skate2snow

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigtoe

Just as OCZ's are, difference is we test on both MSI and DFI

I never said you weren't;). I just answered a question which was if they were testing them....
03-05-2005, 06:09 PM
isp

Whats the pricetag on these, anyone know?
03-05-2005, 06:11 PM
skate2snow

They aren't released yet, and G.skill is not givin any MSRP on any of their products....
03-05-2005, 07:00 PM
craig588

I'm going to take a stab and say the command rate has nothing to do with the memory and the limit of it rests solely on the memory controller.
03-05-2005, 07:24 PM
Playful_Buffalo

LOL i dont think he goes that far into testing, let me give it a shot though

FAH only consumed proc power as far as i know, maybe 10mb of memory tops. it would make a very minor difference if any at all
03-06-2005, 01:54 AM
krille

How would these God Skill DDR600-1T 2.5-4-4-8 end-up compared to the OCZ VX PC4000 (DDR500-1T 2-2-2) for benchmarking and gaming? When will they be able to beat tight timings with even looser?
03-06-2005, 02:38 AM
jayo

Just found the OCZ PC4000 Gold VX in stock here:
http://www.memory-configurator.com/brand/OCZ.html

-jayo
03-06-2005, 02:39 AM
SteveOCZ

As with BH-5 lower timings win on all but Sandra buffered

http://www.anandtech.com/memory/show...px?i=2369&p=12
03-06-2005, 02:46 AM
skate2snow

Tight timings is what you are looking for when Benching... For 24/7 and "not so heavy" benchmarking go with TCCD...
03-06-2005, 07:04 AM
saaya

Quote:

Originally Posted by skate2snow

Tight timings is what you are looking for when Benching... For 24/7 and "not so heavy" benchmarking go with TCCD...

why? why is tccd better for everyday settings? :confused:
03-06-2005, 07:18 AM
Jupiler

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

why? why is tccd better for everyday settings? :confused:

Not everyone is willing to run their memory at +3.2V for 24/7 use.
Therefore, I think that TCCD is better for everyday usage. Lower volts, able to reach higher HTT at 1:1.
03-06-2005, 07:20 AM
kakaroto

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

im sure many people will complain as they wont be able to run 1t and wont accept that its their cpu/board holding them back...

Memory that require Overclock (high HTT) like gskill DDR600, you need a good chipset (mobo) and CPU (memorycontroller).
Not every (eg. winchester) will take DDR600 1T.

For people buying this new memory, make sure you got some new rev. memorycontroller to hit that DDR600, otherwise you can always run DDR550 as rated.

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

why? why is tccd better for everyday settings? :confused:

Maybe he mean you only need voltages lower then 3v to achieve DDR600.
To run with winbond you need voltages higher then 3.5v to match DDR600 1T.
03-06-2005, 07:40 AM
Revv23

^The VX will definetly beat ram thats at 2.5-4-4, it would probably beat those timings even if the TCCD was at 330mhz, the idea is that those timnigs should be more of a stable low point for this ram, and hopefully it will run better timings or more MHZ, for me, VX\BH is where the party is at, unless you dont like running high volts...
03-06-2005, 07:40 AM
LikwidKool

i hope gskill has as good an rma dept. as OCZ when these hit the market. I see all the people complaining about regular rams not hitting specs when it is their hardware and not the ram, but now saying ddr600 1t gaurenteed is going to be comical. Like others have said command rate rest's on more than just the ram. To gaurentee 1t on all boards is just misleading, and marketing hype.
03-06-2005, 08:19 AM
btomasie

subscribed
03-06-2005, 11:57 AM
XiN

G.Skill TCCD 440, DFI LanParty nForce4

300@2.5-3-3-7 T1

http://img136.exs.cx/img136/9373/300...idth2wp.th.jpg

W G.Skill :toast:
03-06-2005, 12:03 PM
StarvationPlan

Quote:

Originally Posted by XiN

G.Skill TCCD 440, DFI LanParty nForce4

300@2.5-3-3-7 T1

http://img136.exs.cx/img136/9373/300...idth2wp.th.jpg

W G.Skill :toast:

Update if you manage to push them further (at the same timings) :). VX @ 2-2-2-5 @ 265Mhz is superior, but if you can push these up higher, they will get alot more tempting :)
03-06-2005, 12:09 PM
XiN

Quote:

Originally Posted by StarvationPlan

Update if you manage to push them further (at the same timings) :). VX @ 2-2-2-5 @ 265Mhz is superior, but if you can push these up higher, they will get alot more tempting :)

Yeah, I'll try ... ;)

Unfortunately I have a CBBID Winchester (max 2550 mhz, not stable) so I can't do good spi scores :(
03-06-2005, 12:43 PM
StarvationPlan

I just hate those CBBID... I wonder why they are performing so badly...
03-06-2005, 04:40 PM
Marlowe

Quote:

Originally Posted by ooztuncer

DDR600 PC4800 1T 2.5-4-4-8 latency setting in the configuration as below:

Motherboard: DFI LANParty UT nF4 Ultra-DVersion A02, BIOS Date 1/25/2004
Voltage setting between 2.7V to 2.9V
CPU: AMD Athlon64 3000+ (Overclock to 300*8 or 300*9)
Software: MEMTEST86+ V1.51 in DOS mode

Hmm... Is memory bank interleave enabled in that bios? Does the guarantee include enabled bank interleave? I've seen people sucsessfully run memtest, but still fail to run Windows stable at the same settings. Does the guarantee include failsafe memory operation in windows?

*sceptical*
03-06-2005, 05:57 PM
Cornelious0_0

This is definitely nice to see.....but for now I just wanna get my hands on an Ultra-D and a 3200+ to try out my 2x256MB of LE 431 that I've got in my NF7-S right now. ;)
03-06-2005, 09:30 PM
Kazoo

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