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INTEL Smithfield 830[pic]
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this is the dual core right? Man I hear the EE dual core is supposed to have HT and dual core. That is like 4 logical CPU's in one chip :banana4: :banana4: :banana4:
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Originally Posted by kouch
this is the dual core right? Man I hear the EE dual core is supposed to have HT and dual core. That is like 4 logical CPU's in one chip :banana4: :banana4: :banana4:
No Hyperthreading with Intel dual core processors.
deception``
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Originally Posted by deception``
No Hyperthreading with Intel dual core processors.
deception``
I know, but the EE are supposed to have HT enabled in Dual Cores. Only the EE's. I swear I read this at either anand or arstechnica.
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look at the performance rating 3990 o/c that bad boy 100mhz more so you can get a higher p/r
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Originally Posted by deception``
No Hyperthreading with Intel dual core processors.
deception``
Incorrect. The dual core EE will have hyperthreading.
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Intel plans to deliver two separate dual-core products and dual-core-enabled chipsets for its Pentium® processor-class families in the second quarter, including the Pentium® processor Extreme Edition. The Intel® Pentium® Processor Extreme Edition will include Hyper-Threading Technology, providing the ability to process four software “threads” simultaneously.
http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archi...050207corp.htm
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thats incredible! lets see some dual superpi action or something!
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Yea & some oc, do ya have PhCh?
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CPUID just shows a P4 with HT. Where does it say thats a dual core chip?
Also, does the SIS649 even support dual core?
Maybe I'm missing something?
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Originally Posted by saratoga
CPUID just shows a P4 with HT. Where does it say thats a dual core chip?
Also, does the SIS649 even support dual core?
Maybe I'm missing something?
Yeah you're right, I'm not seeing anything that indicates it's a dual core. CPU-Z indicates it's a Pentium 531, which is identical to the 3 GHz Pentium 530, but with EM64T (64-bit extensions). The 531, along with the other 5x1 chips, are being released in Q2.
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those mips if at only 3 ghz are very impressive, comparable to a dual CPU at the same speed or close.
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I dont even wanna imagine it under a cascade @5Ghz :D, it 'd b like 9.5Ghz single core? :D 55k in 3DMark '01? :D
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dual cpus dont add like that. ;)
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dual cores should offer little to no advantage for games, dual cores should be like dual CPU's... so until things are specifically coded for dual cores, theres not gonna be much of a advantage for them in benchmarks, other then say PCmark... or other dual CPU benchmarks that might take advantage of dual cores.
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how will a game coded for dual core compare to a game on AMD? Will intel get the edge in games or will AMD still be on top?
*I am only talking about a game that is dual core coded vs a single core AMD.
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if a game is coded for Dual cores, then theres still no advantage for intel in games... AMD has thier own dual core 64's that they are sampling right now, and unlike intel, they can be used on any A64 board, where the new dual core P4 needs chipsets that no one currently has, like the 945/955 boards...
or this SIS board that was used for this set of benchmarks.
but a dual core P4 on a game coded to actually use both cores, should do just as good as a single core in a game.
but a Dual Core AMD, would again have the advantage, just like always... making it the same as always... Intel for office use, multitasking and video stuff and similar things, AMD for gamers and some other things.
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Originally Posted by thegreek
how will a game coded for dual core compare to a game on AMD? Will intel get the edge in games or will AMD still be on top?
*I am only talking about a game that is dual core coded vs a single core AMD.
If there's games coded for multiple threads i'm sure AMD will release a dual core FX in a timely fashion. The Opterons were designed with a direct bridge between the cores for cache and memory sharing so a dual core die is a very small step for them vs. Intel's Xeon line.
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Originally Posted by kouch
I know, but the EE are supposed to have HT enabled in Dual Cores. Only the EE's. I swear I read this at either anand or arstechnica.
i read at The Inquirer that "Yonah" will be a hyperthreading chip on its 2 lovely mobile cores, maybe thats what you're thinking about?
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Originally Posted by Northwood
i read at The Inquirer that "Yonah" will be a hyperthreading chip on its 2 lovely mobile cores, maybe thats what you're thinking about?
The Dual Core EE's WILL have HT - 4 logical cores!
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Can anyone verify if it's a dual core? It still says Prescott on the screenshots...
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Originally Posted by death metal
Can anyone verify if it's a dual core? It still says Prescott on the screenshots...
Smithfield=Prescott-X
PS: X=2
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Intel provides a small application that detects dual core CPUs and HT capabilities.
http://www.intel.com/cd/ids/develope...turl=40524.htm
If you have the opportunity, could you run it and post the result ? It would be very interesting.
Franck
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Originally Posted by cpuz
I only am the extension paste.. This is not my thing.. Sorry
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Originally Posted by sxs112
Smithfield=Prescott-X
PS: X=2
Yes, however the screenshots are pretty clear that its a single core prescott with HT, not a Smithfield (which doesn't have HT BTW).
You don't have any actual screenshots showing something dual core related?
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Lets see the phyiscal chip That will say alot
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They removed HT and added Arbitration that has much lower latency = higher performance and slightly lower temps. That is similar to the machine I played on in January except it was an Intel mobo.
This is mild to what I have in house, when NDA is up I will scare you.
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What do you have for us fugger ;)
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Originally Posted by FUGGER
I got a bus
WOW !!! a school bus ? :banana:
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err maybe a "dual independent" school bus...
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SXS112, as always thanks for the look at new stuff from your end.
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It has been said before on this thread but the normal 800's Smithfields will NOT have HT.
However the Pentium XE (smithfield core) will have HT making it have four logical cores. Here is a link with some info and a pic of a smithfield 800 rig running.
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=21517
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impressive mips...
ee w/ 4 logical instances of folding = :slobber: :D
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when is NDA going to lifted up =)...
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Originally Posted by death metal
when is NDA going to lifted up =)...
Well, that's the funny thing, he can't say because he's under NDA :D But my guesses ar mid april, early may (if it is the parts I think it is he's talking about...)
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Originally Posted by FUGGER
SXS112, as always thanks for the look at new stuff from your end.
From PC Perspective.
While I don't have pictures to share with you yet, I will get them soon, but Intel has shared with the press their plans for the upcoming Q2 2005 introductin of dual core processors. Here are the details I have now:
Intel Pentium Processor Extreme Edition
3.2 GHz clock speed
Dual Core
Two threads per core
800 MHz FSB
2 MB L2 cache (1 MB for each core)
EM64T
Execute Disable Bit
LGA775 Package
Die size: 206mm^2
230 million transistors
For the accompanying chipset we have:
955X Platform Chipset
Dual x16 GFX with bridge (will get more info on this soon!)
Up to 8GB of memory
Pentium D is another dual core option coming in Q2 -- there wasn't specific data on it, but I would guess it would NOT have the two threads per core to differentiate between it and the Extreme Edition version.
Check this post later for pics and more data! Feel free to discuss it with others in the forums!
Update: At the demo Intel showed the 3.2 GHz quad-thread (dual core) system run a test on CineBench 2003 with four threads in the render test. The test completed in 37.8 seconds. Looking at my recent DFI nF4 SLI-DR motherboard review the best AMD score for that same test (using only a single thread of course) was 77 seconds and the best Intel score was 69.6 seoncds. That is an 84% improvement over the Intel 560 processor and a 103% over the AMD 4000+ results. If we can get performance like this out of other, multi threaded applications as well as in multitasking, AND with SLI coming on the new nForce Intel chipset, then we may see Intel on the PC Per Hardware Leaderboard for the first time...""
Too bad, there shouldn't have been an Expesive Edition :mad:
Donnie
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Originally Posted by sxs112
Smithfield=Prescott-X
PS: X=2
where did you get the cpu from? I thought that Intel will release that on Second Quater 2005....
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stevendph
His grandma works @ intel
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Originally Posted by IvanAndreevich
stevendph
His grandma works @ intel
oh, i c, thanks! I'm also waiting for this CPU released! :)
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Hi there,
I have a SMF 3.2 and it doesn't look like this one. Yours seems to be an early (or later !) revision :) Could you submit the validation dump to CPU-Z valid ? Even if you choose to not publish the dump online (uncheck the checkbox).
thanks :)
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Originally Posted by FUGGER
I got a bus
HyperTransport?
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Originally Posted by Techmasta
HyperTransport?
Hmmm, makes you wonder doesnt it?
