All DFI NF4 users, please come in if you still have problem with 2.17 bios

As this effort is belong to OSkar,
I just have this beta bios couple minutes ago. It's regarding some XS friends PM me about they still got some issues on the 2.17.
As I mentioned yesterday, it could be different NVMM version package. So , here you go, this 2.18 beta bios is the old nvmm
please understand that, I can not talk about the NVMM. ;)

If you get the bios, please DO compare and confirm the results in this thread, don't just take it for granted and nothing back. PLEASE. :D

Here you go for DFI NF4 2.18 Beta bios.

what's NVMM ? i'm used 209 and 217 bios with no probs :)

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Originally Posted by eva2000

what's NVMM ? i'm used 209 and 217 bios with no probs :)

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can't talk about that.. :D
Glad to hear you don't have prob. :)

Which of the bios' is the best/most optimal for TCCD? GSkill to be exact?. :shrug:

2/09, 2/17, 2/18? :confused:

Haven't got any problems with the 17/02 bios, but i will try this one out also, i want 10x270 :)

Result with the 17/02 bios see attachment. Was better than the 09/02 bios, timings are tighter on this one.

edit: uploaded wrong image lol, was from my previous mb.

has this sorted the issue with BP815 based memory?

SONOFA!!!......I haven't had any problems with 10x or 11x 270, but....


...well, problem solved with 2/18. Need to do some longer term testing but this seems to have helped me out enormously with the problem I did have. :D :toast: Since board #1 died on me, board #2 was not making me a fan of these boards. Pass my thanks on to Oskar. :)

edit to add: little more testing and there is no doubt this helped me out.

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Originally Posted by Lidocaine

Which of the bios' is the best/most optimal for TCCD? GSkill to be exact?. :shrug:

2/09, 2/17, 2/18? :confused:

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Yes I'd like to know that too :confused:

I've had a terrible experience with 217, after restart I couldn't load windows anymore with my SATA Raptor 74GB drive, said ntfs.sys had an error and I got the dreaded BSOD!!! Had to LLF the drive and then reinstall everything... Lost all my data on the disk. I also reverted to my old BIOS but to no avail, the harm was already done. Now, I don't think I'm in the mood to try 218...

Just my :2cents:

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Originally Posted by mikead_99

SONOFA!!!...... I haven't had any problems with 10x or 11x 270, but....


...well, problem solved with 2/18. Need to do some longer term testing but this seems to have helped me out enormously with the problem I did have. :D :toast: Since board #1 died on me, board #2 was not making me a fan of these boards. Pass my thanks on to Oskar. :)

edit to add: little more testing and there is no doubt this helped me out.

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:confused: What? 2/18 solved the problem You never had ???

This is a bit too high for me........... :toast:

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Originally Posted by Onepagebook

As this effort is belong to OSkar,
I just have this beta bios couple minutes ago. It's regarding some XS friends PM me about they still got some issues on the 2.17.
As I mentioned yesterday, it could be different NVMM version package. So , here you go, this 2.18 beta bios is the old nvmm
please understand that, I can not talk about the NVMM. ;)

If you get the bios, please DO compare and confirm the results in this thread, don't just take it for granted and nothing back. PLEASE. :D

Here you go for DFI NF4 2.18 Beta bios.

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:D O.K. - first thanks for the work, but this is the 4th BIOS since beginning of February and makes me wonder which one to use?
So if You cannot talk about NVMM please give us an information when it is better to use 2/18 with the old NVMM or the 2/17 with the new one.

I mean You don't have to post secrets here but try to explain it in Your own words so that You don't get a problem with somebody.......... :toast:

i cant get over 210 with out memtest or prime95 crashing the computer. ive tried everything, except moving the jumper to the 5v rail.

3000winnie
ocz 3200 plat rev2
promie

i have to pump 3.0v into the memory just to boot or else i get beeps and a flashing power light. and what makes it bad i was able to get 240hht on a8n-sli prime and 3d stable with just 2.9v. can someone let me into the big secret here. well off the flash the bios again. wish me luck

my system work hest great with the 217 bios, to be honest its work fine wite the official bios
and all of the beta bios, but i will try the 218 anyway

thanks opb :toast:

the official 125 bios was horrible for me, wouldn't allow me to change vdimm. 209 was good, and 217 was better, so if this one uses old nvmm, i don't think i'll switch, becuase 217 has been working better than 209.

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Originally Posted by HARDCORECLOCKER

:confused: What? 2/18 solved the problem You never had ???

This is a bit too high for me........... :toast:

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I guess I can be a little more clear. My 12x multi was utter crap, 13x not so good either. Much better now with the old nvmm. I'm guessing other peeps with multi issues should get some help out of this release. Doesn't seem like everyone has the multi issue either, and some that do have issues with other multi's. I honestly thought until today that my board was crap.

NVMM=NV memory management or what? :rolleyes:
I have to compare the bins one of this days :P
I like the often BIOS updates, good work, but I can't test it yet :(

ok, using the beta bios on dfi's site for now, only got board installed today but had it for a week now. its an a01 i think, had the 1/25 bios on it. so far on both the bios's i literally can't overclock at all, even slightly, will bsod in windows. 600W ocz psu, 2x 6800gt's, turned off the nx bit protection which seemed to stop bluescreening at stock which was infrequent, but overclocking it didn't help. 3500+ winchester, 2x200gb dm10+'s in raid on the nvidia controller with 2 more maxtor drives on the nvidia controller not in raid.

this same setup(diff psu though, 520W ocz) would run 2.6Ghz stable at 245ish Mhz 1:1 so i assume the memory(couldn't test anyhigher fsb) gskill LA kit is fine for at least that, and cpu can clearly do 2.6Ghz, was fully 100% stable and would do much more not stable on 1.5v.

am i missing some major setting on this dfi board, i normally laugh at people with threads with really obvious stuff but, pci-e is locked, on both other nf4 boards 101Mhz didn't auto lock it or anything so kinda assuming we don't need it here either.

also where can i get teh 2/09 2/17 bios's if they aren't on dfi site?

also i think i used raid drivers i got with the asus sli board as my dfi floppy just didn't see any drivers on it while installing windows, assume they are the same though, and using 6.39 nforce drivers, 71.81's for gfx, any known issues with any of that lot?

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Originally Posted by drunkenmaster

am i missing some major setting on this dfi board, i normally laugh at people with threads with really obvious stuff but, pci-e is locked, on both other nf4 boards 101Mhz didn't auto lock it or anything so kinda assuming we don't need it here either.

also where can i get teh 2/09 2/17 bios's if they aren't on dfi site?

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You've got mail (bioses). :toast:
edit: no you don't. the email in your sig bounced.

re: the tccd...have you used 3.0V+ on them yet? I haven't tried my tccd out on this board, but that seems to be the deal with them.

No problem for 217. Will try 218. Here is the result using BIOS 217



PS: All stock air cooling.

mikead_99 , cheers for trying, haven't updated sig in a good year, or two probably :p changed it , got hte 2/09 and 2/18 now, too tired to look for the 2/17 right now.

just very weird, normally i can always max out my stuff, never ever not been able to overclock and this literally won't go 5Mhz fsb faster when i know all this stuff did 245Mhz minimum fine before. who knows :(

218 contains old nvmm and nv raid rom
for me 218 is a bit better than 217.

That's all I can say

** By teh way, I am using wd740gd in Raid 0 mode.
I try several bios without any prob.:D

i'd rather you not say anything more and break your trust with oskar, its really great for everybody here that your business relationship is as good as it is with him, all these beta bioses are great!

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Originally Posted by Onepagebook

As this effort is belong to OSkar,
I just have this beta bios couple minutes ago. It's regarding some XS friends PM me about they still got some issues on the 2.17.
As I mentioned yesterday, it could be different NVMM version package. So , here you go, this 2.18 beta bios is the old nvmm
please understand that, I can not talk about the NVMM. ;)

If you get the bios, please DO compare and confirm the results in this thread, don't just take it for granted and nothing back. PLEASE. :D

Here you go for DFI NF4 2.18 Beta bios.

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i have not tried the 217 but with this bios gave me 30" on 1mb pì finally I can say I'm happy with my 3000 winchester with vitesta's 566 :D


cheers bud :banana:

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Originally Posted by enduracell

NVMM=NV memory management or what? :rolleyes:
I have to compare the bins one of this days :P
I like the often BIOS updates, good work, but I can't test it yet :(

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maybe Nvidia Video Multi Media or Memory Management

C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\ForceWare\Multimedia\NvMM.exe

???

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Originally Posted by eva2000

maybe Nvidia Video Multi Media or Memory Management

C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\ForceWare\Multimedia\NvMM.exe

???

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:D ..you 're not eva2000, you're evil2000 :toast:
but that still under bios.. :)

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Originally Posted by Onepagebook

:D ..you 're not eva2000, you're evil2000

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:lol: Sorry. That just made me laugh for some reason.

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Originally Posted by conrad.maranan

:lol: Sorry. That just made me laugh for some reason.

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me too!

i just kept imagining opb's little doll running after eva2000 with a knife dripping blood screaming your'e evil2000!

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:D ..you 're not eva2000, you're evil2000 :toast:
but that still under bios.. :)

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LOL.... i want to get a Kenshin doll like Onepage's doll hehe we can fight it out lol

This reminds me of Chuky in Child's Play... :p:

OPB. Will it fix the dual channel probelm ?
we can't get our OCZ plat to run in 2/4 or 1/3
Works fine with one stick just not two.
Have to RA the board I reckon for a leter revision

Graham tried both sticks on other boards ?

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Graham tried both sticks on other boards ?

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I'm having the same problem with my OCZ plat rev.2, I have to run them in 3&4 single channel.

has anybody tried it with BH5 memory? some incombatibility issues have been reported with KHX3000 abd KHX 3500.

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Originally Posted by dpresv

has anybody tried it with BH5 memory? some incombatibility issues have been reported with KHX3000 abd KHX 3500.

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i'm using Kingston KHX3200K2/512 BH-5 ram with no probs on 217 bios

3200+ 90nm 0445 VPMW cpu
DFI NF4 SLI-D 217 bios
2x eVGA 6800Ultra PCI-E @453/1215
2x 256MB KHX3200K2/512 BH-5 2-2-2-6

divider = 9:10 for 3d2k3/3d2k05 and 1:1 for 3d2k1

3dmark2003
3200+ @ 302HTT/271mhz mem = 2719mhz
= 23,921

3dmark05
3200+ @ 300HTT/270mhz mem = 2700mhz
= 10,976

3dmark2001
3200+ @ 271HTT/271mhz mem = 2710mhz
= 31,477

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...5_23921_tn.jpg

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...5_10976_tn.jpg

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...5_31477_tn.jpg

just an update.... flashed the bios to 218 but didnt help. i switched out the ocz 3200 plat. rev2 with some good old ocz 3700el ram. now im able to run the mem at 265 with 2.5,3,3,8 t1 timmings with some 3.4v. all prime and 3d stable. im not too sure whats under the heat spreaders on the 3700 but the board seems to like it better than the 3200 plats.

i just flashed 218 and everything gets crappy with my EB3500... cant go past 240-245 with tight timings (w/ 209 i could do 260 3-2-2-0) and past 250 no matter what timings i use... flashed back to 209 and the problem remains. seems everyone's going the tccd way. too bad coz eb has a great potential. i hope a future release will solve this
cheers

My vdim in Bios says 2,9 but everything else in Windows says 3,1V. I am using the 217.
What shows wrong?
I set it to 2,9 in BIOS.

all the probs I will report to Oskar.
Thank you everyone.:)

2.17 is good :toast: hope 2.18 is better...
Heres with 2.17 and 3.0V on mem....benched at 313x11

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Originally Posted by Onepagebook

218 contains old nvmm and nv raid rom
for me 218 is a bit better than 217.

That's all I can say

** By teh way, I am using wd740gd in Raid 0 mode.
I try several bios without any prob.:D

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;) THX mate........... :toast:

WOW! im surprised im not the only one that can't run dual channel with ocz platinum rev 2's :)

Anyone else having the same problem as me?

just updated to 218 bios not much changed but those default advance mem timings can be trouble if you're not using good ram i.e. bh-5/6!

7-AUTO-2-2-1-2 is pretty aggressive for unsuspecting non-BH-5/6 ram users who leave it at that when overclocking their HTT/FSB higher in 1:1!

218 seems to be worse for oc for me, was at 285x9, with 218 I would crash in superPI.

Whats the best bios for BH-5? Thanks I'm surrently using 209

Not exactly sure, but with the 02/17 bios bank interleave don't seem to work with my VX. Enabled or disabled makes no difference in sandra / everest.
Known problem?

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Originally Posted by vrtn

Not exactly sure, but with the 02/17 bios bank interleave don't seem to work with my VX. Enabled or disabled makes no difference in sandra / everest.
Known problem?

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Bank interleave enable works only on 2x512 on DC, on 2x256 DC doesn't work so it doesn't matter what u set on BIOS.
Sandra doesn't been effected by BI. Use Super Pi 4M for example to see the deferent or pifast, Sandra sucks big time by the way :)

thing is GoldVX only comes in 2x512MB heh

So i should just use 2/17 for bh-5?

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Originally Posted by enduracell

Bank interleave enable works only on 2x512 on DC, on 2x256 DC doesn't work so it doesn't matter what u set on BIOS.
Sandra doesn't been effected by BI. Use Super Pi 4M for example to see the deferent or pifast, Sandra sucks big time by the way :)

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Tested all three biosses again, and my conclusion before was drawn too quickly :) Bank interleave does work. The 18/02 bios is not good for my system anyways, the best for me is 17/02. Tested with pifast/sandra/everest/3dmark01. Wrote all the results down, so if anybody is interested, I can give them. Tested with 11x249 and 10x268. Both 1,5-2-2-5-7trc-17trfc.

Hi

my bugls with SLi DR 2.17 Bios

- system hangs on reboot before postscreen with high Vdimm (3.2Volt), all 4 Leds red. Reset button dont help, i must switch the system off with the Power supply switch.
- cant go over 230MHZ with lastest BH-5 from OCZ VX Ram.
- System hangs after postscreen if no CPU Multiplcator is set in the Bios. (overclocking)
-cant lower ore increase CPU V-Core from Windows if CPU VID Voltage is set to something different than "Auto"
-C&Q dont work with high vdimm (over 3.2) because i need to set CPU VID Voltage something different than "Auto" to reach higher Vdimm.
- memmory Bandwitch is 10% lower in comparison to other S939 Boards.

i hope at least the reboot Problem can be fixed.

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WOW! im surprised im not the only one that can't run dual channel with ocz platinum rev 2's :)

Anyone else having the same problem as me?

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Hi, i have 2 kits of the Rev 2 that run great iun dual channel. Settings on this board vary depending on your CPU type. The memory conotollers are all different. I use 2.8v on my Wincester at 300mhz and need 3.2 with a 4000+ Clwahammer (same core as FX55). Go figure. Try more voltage I guess, but you should not need more than 3.2. MAKE SURE you have the memory cooled with a FAN.

If you post your CPU type and power supply I can possibly help you.

jsut conjecture, but i'll bet that the NVMM is something to do with SLi....new one is probably meant ot disable full sli capability for those who got a moddable one. I heard they will try and do somehting in nvidia drivers as well to attack the modded ones. Lame-o if you ask me.
if that's it. I dont see how tthey could tell the difference, either the board reports sli or not.
oh well, I will be running x800xt, so attack sli all you want dfi. I did nte mod anyway, just for kicks!

btw, is the 217/218 the bios of choise for Gskill TCCD onpage? I have to assume that is what you are running! I will be benching it against UTT though, so I hope it also happens to be the same bios they both run best on.

Heres with 2.17...

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Originally Posted by andyOCZ

Hi, i have 2 kits of the Rev 2 that run great iun dual channel. Settings on this board vary depending on your CPU type. The memory conotollers are all different. I use 2.8v on my Wincester at 300mhz and need 3.2 with a 4000+ Clwahammer (same core as FX55). Go figure. Try more voltage I guess, but you should not need more than 3.2. MAKE SURE you have the memory cooled with a FAN.

If you post your CPU type and power supply I can possibly help you.

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Intersting info Andy.

So it's still up to the mem controller being foobared on some winnies not being able to run in DC.

Well at least the 3000+are affordable so it's no biggie to get a good one.

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Heres with 2.17...

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Why did you have the PCI Express Frequency set to 103Mhz?

FYI I still get the 10DE 0057 error outlined in this topic here even with the 218 BIOS:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d=1#post732974

I have issues with Crucial Ballistix PC3200 RAM on the 218 BIOS. The built-in MemTest reports memory errors at stock CPU and RAM speeds all the way from it's rated 2-2-2-6 speeds to 2.5-4-4-7 at 3.0v. The same memory on an Asus A8N-SLI board works fine.

I'm having issues with my 1/25 2/17 and 2/18 neither of them seem to help my problem.. I randomly freeze inwindows at optimized defaults, and just BSOD when I try to oc my ram or up my vdimm voltage on either vdimm jumper, with two different power supplies..
So Im all out of ideas what to do, dont know whether I should RMA or try and wait for a fix?

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I'm having issues with my 1/25 2/17 and 2/18 neither of them seem to help my problem.. I randomly freeze inwindows at optimized defaults, and just BSOD when I try to oc my ram or up my vdimm voltage on either vdimm jumper, with two different power supplies..
So Im all out of ideas what to do, dont know whether I should RMA or try and wait for a fix?

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i can't even boot to windows at 210

all @ stock and i got some errors in memtest (test6). i´ve tried different bios versions, but it´s always the same.
my settings:
dfi nf4-sli-d
3200+ (200x10)
2x512mb 2-2-2-5 (2,74v) (dual channel)

when i changed to single channel, it passes memtest without any errors.
is this a problem of the board or suck my gskill modules?

The weird part is I memtest upto 265 with no problems on my vx, except it doesnt scare worth a damn
I can actually get 265 at 3.3v but at 3.5 it givves me 4 errors per pass

Which is why Im gonna try this IDE hdd

great 2.18 fixed all problems :)

hello

is this problem only with the ultra d and the sli d versions of this board
i looked at everyone's sigs and you all had just d versions


this isnt an issue with the sli-dr's is it (crosses Fingers)

thanks
-Brandon

thats so weird all the people with OCZ 3200 el plats and having problem with them.

Btw. i have bios 2/17 and two sticks and right now everything runs like a charm 9x289 1T 2.5.4.3.7 1:1 prime stable.

I really think if you plug two of these sticks in (dimm 2 and dimm 4) and ASSUMING you have 2/17 bios already flashed and 2.8 or 2,9 VDIMM and have a PROBLEM....then either your board is hosed or your memory ! Or you have an especially crappy PSU !

How else can you explain people (incl me) dont have those problems ?

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thats so weird all the people with OCZ 3200 el plats and having problem with them.

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Not true! I have OCZ 3200 el plats rev2 and everythings working great! With a little more burning in, I should acheive 2,5-3-3-7 @2.6V @ 300htt 1:1 (I say I should because right now it's memtest #5 stable up to 305 but not in windows)

The fact is that much more people with problem will post than those who don't have! ;)

try running cas 2.5 or 3 with your pc3200 el plat
It helped me stabilize my vx alittle

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I have issues with Crucial Ballistix PC3200 RAM on the 218 BIOS. The built-in MemTest reports memory errors at stock CPU and RAM speeds all the way from it's rated 2-2-2-6 speeds to 2.5-4-4-7 at 3.0v. The same memory on an Asus A8N-SLI board works fine.

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Were you using the same CPU also? Remember that the memory controller is on the CPU. Some winnies have marginal memry controllers, although they normally run memest fine.

Adjust the Tref in the DRAM Configuration section of the BIOS. Lower or incorrect Tref timings can cause big issues and complete instabilty.

Try upping LDT voltage to 1.3v and chipset to 1.7v. Try giving the CPU at least .05v more than stock. I use 1.5-1.525v.

Try setting all memory settings to auto, then manually set cl2.5/7/3/3 or whatever and try again.

It didn`t solve the problems I have with higher HTT then 280MHz....

/offtopic
those gskill heatspreads are perrttyyy, i want them.

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/offtopic
those gskill heatspreads are perrttyyy, i want them.

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Gskills, heatspreader? Am I missing something here?

http://www.e04hardware.com/gskill.jpg

opb started the thread and i was admiring them on the first page

atm im still using the final bios from 25/1

are those newer beta bios's really allways better?

im having problems getting my system primestable, also 3dmark05 gave a blue screen once, memtest86 did fine and passed 3 tests
augmenting the cpu volts from 1.325 tot 1.4 did help a bit, but prime still errored after a few hours :/

before i start thinking about overclocking i wanne get it stable at stock cpu settings

u guys think the beta bios might improve this? (i consider a beta bios as last resort normally)

or do i have more chance to get it stable by messing a lil with strange bios settings? (which ones? ;))

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Originally Posted by andyOCZ

Hi, i have 2 kits of the Rev 2 that run great iun dual channel. Settings on this board vary depending on your CPU type. The memory conotollers are all different. I use 2.8v on my Wincester at 300mhz and need 3.2 with a 4000+ Clwahammer (same core as FX55). Go figure. Try more voltage I guess, but you should not need more than 3.2. MAKE SURE you have the memory cooled with a FAN.

If you post your CPU type and power supply I can possibly help you.

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Andy,
I'd be very interested to see all the Ram timings you use with Rev 2 Plats and and Clawhammer @ 300 (preferably FX 55).
If you look at my sig (full of OCZ products, well 2 anyway ;) ), you'll understand why
Thanks :)
Geoff

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Why did you have the PCI Express Frequency set to 103Mhz?

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I run my X850XTpe at 105. I have seen that reccommended for ati's and 102-3 for Nvidia cards on this board. Not sure why, but it seems fine.

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The fact is that much more people with problem will post than those who don't have! ;)

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This is very true. There are also many things that can be the weak link on this setup, from a simple bios setting, to not enough voltage, not enough cooling, to the PS on and on.

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I run my X850XTpe at 105. I have seen that reccommended for ati's and 102-3 for Nvidia cards on this board. Not sure why, but it seems fine.

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i read that too (didnt angry games say that ?)...the reason might be "to make sure the pci-ex bus is locked"....(by overclocking it a bit).....but well....this might also be an urban myth :)

I can list a bunch of "recommendations" which are all nice and good...but mysterious since there is not ANY explanation why to do this and why to do that...:)

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Originally Posted by Mastakilla

atm im still using the final bios from 25/1

are those newer beta bios's really allways better?

im having problems getting my system primestable, also 3dmark05 gave a blue screen once, memtest86 did fine and passed 3 tests
augmenting the cpu volts from 1.325 tot 1.4 did help a bit, but prime still errored after a few hours :/

before i start thinking about overclocking i wanne get it stable at stock cpu settings

u guys think the beta bios might improve this? (i consider a beta bios as last resort normally)

or do i have more chance to get it stable by messing a lil with strange bios settings? (which ones? ;))

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If you are having stability problems, then by all means you should try the beta bios. I would throw 218 on and see if it helps. Jst make sure you follow the instructions for flashing from the officail DFI site.

here is a beta bios list:

http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/other/114

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i read that too (didnt angry games say that ?)...the reason might be "to make sure the pci-ex bus is locked"....(by overclocking it a bit).....but well....this might also be an urban myth :)

I can list a bunch of "recommendations" which are all nice and good...but mysterious since there is not ANY explanation why to do this and why to do that...:)

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It's not for the lock. But I never did get a straight answer as to why he reccommended this. maybe it is the safe o/c setting for those repective cards for best performance.

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It's not for the lock. But I never did get a straight answer as to why he reccommended this. maybe it is the safe o/c setting for those repective cards for best performance.

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This is correct. Its a performance issue. I run my 2 x 6800U at 103mhz for a small added kick in throughput. But, the actual performance difference is quite small:)