Any compatibility issues?
Thanks.
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Any compatibility issues?
Thanks.
wondering same thing. Thanks.
Well, I have a DFI SLI-DR right here besides me...and a XP-120 in my surf rigg...maybe I could try and match those...hmm
do it! try it! and where in the freak did you get your board! :cool:
hehehe I would appreciate any testing you can do. Thanks.
testing would be much appreciated :)
ok.. AND? Compatible or not ? :|
Yes, please test!Quote:
Originally Posted by Marquzz
Ok, ok, I will ;)
so... :)
Done, and it fitted. It works both ways aswell. But if you gonna have mem in slot 3 & 4 you have to have it the way I have in the pictures, otherwise yhe heatpipes are in the way. Good clearens to gfx aswell.
Cool. thanks!
yes thank you! That looks real sweet. Definately getting an XP 120.
you got me. I just ordered this board and a XP-120 w/ 12 cm fan. I guess i will cancel my MSI neo4 order and sell my brandnew, unused XP-90 then.... the fact that the Xp-120 fits did it for me :)
Sweet. XP-120 is the way to go. Your ram get's some free air from the 120mm fan to help cool off that OCZ VX or TCCD :D
So can you please state which slots will not be usable with the XP120. Will it work with memory that has a heatspreader?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marquzz
Thanks for trying. :)
Does that XP-120 work when you have the motherboard mounted vertically?
it looks like you can use all dimms...just turn the sink that way the pipes face the other direction. Look at his pictures.
I still don't get it :confused: :stick:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...chmentid=23068Quote:
Originally Posted by D_o_S
look at this...it looks you wont have problems with any DIMM slot...there is clearance above each slot. His pics are pretty clear :)
so would XP120 fit with say like VX ram with spreaders on and a big gfx card at the other side like a dual slot x850XT PE?
thx for testing, have an xp-120 + a delta fan sitting here, really didn't want to sell it.
i really dont think the spreaders would add any significant size to the dimms...its maybe 1/20 of an inch more..i really dont see that as a problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nube
I just look at my OCZ and even with spreaders its hardly higher than the DIMMS itself.
X850XT: Dont see any problem here. Look at his pics, again. The fan and blower slot would be on the other side, away from the heatsink.
And from the back of the card to the XP-120/pipes it looks there is almost an inch clearance.
This is actually what finally made me cancel my msi k8n neo4 and pre-order the dfi....the other thing i like is that there is clearance between the two memory dimms. (because you plug it in slot 1,4 or 2,3 and NOT like the MSI in 1,2 or 3,4. So..there is more airflow because of this gap.
Add a XP-120 and 12cm fan and you get niiiiiiiice cooling even over the memory :) Great board design !
My mems (KHX 3200/256 without HS, the ones in the pics) is about 31.2mm high, do you have nodules any higher then that you won't be able to mount them after mounting the heatsink. And you have to remove the modules from the slots when mounting the xp. If you mount the XP the other way, that is, heatpipes towards the mem, then you won't be able to fill the slot closest to the socket. But you can mount the XP by having it horizontally during clip fastening, just keep a hand on the heatsink so it wont tip and then use a screwdriver to fasten the clips under the sink. Did that when mounting it on the MSI. With this method you just place the mems in the slots before mounting the XP, then you can use mush higher modules. Though you have to unmount the XP if you wish to remove you modules.
Hope you understood what I ment, it's not that easy for me to explain this in English :D
so, its possible to mount rams on all sockets except the one closest to the CPU if u have the right skills?
did i get it right?
lol my rams, xms 3200 xl pro is 45 mm tall!
is there hope? somehow?
:( ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Onepagebook
is the pink ones #1 and #3 and the yellow 2,4 or is the other way around?
it's the other way around, afaiuQuote:
Originally Posted by daniel734
That is if you mount the XP so it's heatpipes are towards the mem slots.Quote:
Originally Posted by daniel734
I would say that maximum height for mems is about 40mm to fit under the XP hs. There is a chance for you, and that is if you mount the HS with heatpipes towards the slots and mount your modules in slot 1 & 3. Have to get back to you on that one.
sure? ok. thanks...
I'd really appreciate if u'd try that. Mounting the xp120 with heatpipes towards the RAM and then measuring the max height. By max hight I mean height OVER the plastic socket, which is pink or yellow in this case.
And I will measure what height my 45mm RAMs need over the socket when placed into sockets.
Thanks for all!
EDIT: My RAMs need at least 42-43 mm of space over the sockets to fit.
bump*
Good news everyone, you have a package....I mean, there's no problem with your modules in slot 3, but you cannot fit any mem in slot 4 and the margin to the gfx-card is drastically redused.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marquzz
I love you!! thanks!
so ill be able to use my high 2*512Mb corsairs in slot 3 and 1 then?!??!
tack så jävla mycket marquzz, jättesnällt av dig!!
no, im not gay.
Hmm.. ur RAM with heatsinks cant be much higher than 35mm, mine are 45mm. Are mine gonna touch the xp120, looks like it. but i think i can bend em a smal fraction anyway, what you guys think?
damn, no 2-4 dual channel with XP120.. :mad:
uhm, well.. 1-3 should work out anyway.
Heeey, marquzz.. thanx for testing, appreciate it ;)
what are you talking about ?? :)
Didnt he say you cannot use slot 4 *only* when the pipes face the memory ?
If you turn the HSF the other way round you can fit ALL modules.
Is there a reason you WANT to put the HSF that way so the pipes face the memory ? If not...then just turn it around and have more clearance towards the card AND can fit all modules.
Please clear that issue up....in his first pictures with the pipes the other way it looks like there is no problem at all with the Xp-120 !
Q: If the pipes face the card, can you fit in ANY module in any slot ?
A: ( ) yes ( ) no
Q: Is there a reason to have the pipes facing the memory ?
A: ....
:)
read the whole thread...
mY mems are to high for the xp120 to face the gfx.. see.. i i cant get my ram under there.. cuz the mems in the pic is 32mm tall and mine are 45mm!!! so if i should be able to us the xp120 at all i need to have the heatpipes to face the ram. see?
ya, seee? ;) lol..
flexy, marquzz placed XP-120 every possible way, HSF rotated, moved, etc.. The pipes would touch the GFX the other way, look at the size left.. You can't use 4-th DIMM slot.
thanks for those pics of the xp120 fitting... i just hope i can fit a ddr booster under there
hmmm if this is going to be a problem perhaps an XP-90 would be better unless someone could recommend something else. I would like to use 2 + 4 as oskar stated those are better for performance. I also would like to be able to switch dimms if need be and not have my vid card in the way.
but i mean how do we know its better with slots 2 and 4??? cuz someone said so.. and ONLY this person.. I havent seen a thread that goes.. Must put dimms in 2 and 4 cuz it sux in 1 and 3.. if that actually was the case then its a mobo error nothing else.. In 1 case perhaps 2 and 4 was like 1% better but i mean.. come on...
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...chmentid=23067Quote:
Originally Posted by tjj
where do the pipes touch the graphics ?
I'm with flexy here. I would say that it would appear that all 4 slots are usable with the pipes facing the card, and 3 are usable with the pipes over the ram. I think what was confusing is he mentioned that with the pipes toward the card the heatsink hangs over the ram slots making it to where you would have to mount the ram before the heatsink if you wanted to use some of the slots.
It was Oskar himself who said this. He is one of the main guys who designed this board and not to mention is the main bios coder for this board as well. Do you not think this particular one person would know best?Quote:
Originally Posted by daniel734
So to sum this up, you can use slots 2+4 when the XP120 pipes are facing the vga?
And daniel734, It's a shame that you slight Oskarwu.
Ok, it seemes that appearantly I wasn't clear enough so here is a short sum up:
With pipes facing the gfx:
All 4 slots usable, though max ram height is about 40mm, are your modules taller you just can't fit them under there. And if your rams are taller then about 32mm you can't mount them after HS is mounted, and due to the way the HS is mounted (you tip it over towards the slots to get those hooks in the holder) it's going to be quite hard to mount it when rams are already in slots.
Pros: All 4 slots can be populated
Cons: Max ram height is 40mm for slot 3 & 4
With pipes facing the slots:
Slot 1-3 can now be populated with ram with any height. But HS is going to be close to the gfx which could lead to problem with some third parts cooling for gfx. And slot 4 cannot hold any ram, not even low profile.
Pros: slot 3 can now hold high ram modules
Cons: Slot 4 cannot hold any module at all and HS is very close to gfx.
Hoped I cleared everything out now :)
sorry guys, but im kind of a noob here at xtreme.org. sorry. But is it wrong of me to ask? Perhaps I was a bit unsensitive. My bad. Instead of asking the question - who is this guy and why should i believe him - I should have asked the following:
How much will putting the RAMs in slot 1 & 3 affect my computer preformance and OC?
And why?
Shouldn't the 2 pairs be identical?
Sorry guys, didnt mean to offend anyone. =/
damn, ur still going about it? :D Look m8, it wasn't Oskar Wu who suggested using 2/4 instead of 1/3, it was OPB (but, uhm.. maybe it's from Oskars recommendation?).. Just RELAX.. it would run just a smooth as in 1/3. Well, there are cases, when u have to swap RAM, if you have some OC incompatibilties (MSI).. But DFI board? I'm sure everything would work out OK for u..Quote:
Originally Posted by daniel734
Lol, just for few mms :D.
Hey guys anyone have tested that mobo ( SLI-DR or SLI-D)? :confused:
Regards :toast: .
sorry tjj. :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by tjj
But I wouln't call myself rich, so money is definately a factor for me.
Buying incompatible parts is not only annoying but also expensive. :cool:
Well I thank you all for the help!
And Im sure my(our) DFI board(s) will rock. :banana: :banana: :banana:
Thanks Marquzz! :p:
Anyone know how tall are the G.Skill TCCD and OCZ VX? I'm on a dilemma here (HSF related, not RAM) ;) :D
well..OCZ 3200 plat rev2 is exactly 3cm tall, incl. spreaders and pins. Dont know about other modules tho.
I happen to have the DFI NF4 Ultra-D and OCZ VX memory and it fits nicely with the XP-120's pipes facing the gfx card.
At first I have populated DIMM slots 1 and 3 and got a message in the BIOS saying that if I want dual channel I should use 2 and 4! Nice one I though. Also just to make sure while running 1 and 3, I run memtest and yep, they were in single channel.
@ Anakin :
Thank you very much :toast:
i was wainting for that !!
Could some of you guys take a rule and measure the height of your RAM ??
That would be quiet nice.
Maybe we could make a list for compatible and not compatible ram for DFI nF4 and XP120
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anakin_Skywalke
anakin, so no problems installing/removing (i do swap rams quite often so i prefer it not to be too much of a hassle) the vx from slot 4 with how you've got the xp-120 setup?
Quote:
Originally Posted by googles
It WOULD be difficult to remove ram from slot 4, but it is doable I suppose. Please note that this is with the heatpipes facing the gfx card the other way around is not possible to even install a module in dimm 4.
In whole the XP120 is quite a hindrance in part removing... not to mention it is difficult enough to remove the hsf itself. Was happy with my Zalman 7000Cu, just could not resist an 120mm fan!
EDIT: joe smith, it would be impossible to install several corsair pro modules in conjuction with XP120 since it overhangs dimm 4.
I would stay away from them anyway... :toast:
@ Anakin :
I've already read that it is impossible to use most of the corsair Dimms cause of the heatsink.
I'm lucky that i didn't want to buy corsair :D
I was thinking of g.skill or ocz vx (what else ????)
I wanted to buy the following stuff :
A64 3500+
DFI nF4 SLI Dr
1024Mb RAM ???
His X850xt IceQ II Toxic
XP-120
...
What ram would you guys recommend ? (that fits under the xp-120)
I'm not going to do heavy overclocking.
~ 2,5Ghz should be enough for my purposes, so i think the ram should have good timings (2.0-2-2-5) up to at least 240Mhz
I did not want to use the 5v rail for the ram, so the ram should not eat more than 3,2V.
hrmm...maybe ill just go for the xp-90 then. thanks anakin.
Since you want to go up to 250HTT and use the 10x multi, then why not get a 3200+ Winnie? Perhaps you might be lucky enough and get 10x270 out of your memory... then I think in your case VX memory is the most appropriate one. Also get at least 1GB and don't think about anything less than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe smith
@googles an xp90 is a quite good choice provided that you can find a good fan for that (meaning: near silent)
tornado and some ear mufflers :D
good recommendation anakin, was thinking the same..
so just to clarify, a XP120 with;
1gig ocz vx in slot 2-4
x850xt pe
DFI NF4 SLI- DR
should b okay ? if not Hyper6 better than XP90 ? is it okay for hyper6 weight beign tilted sideways on mobo ?
So they won't fit in 2,4 with the XP-120?Quote:
Originally Posted by Anakin_Skywalke
Thanks :confused:
sauria, they will fit in slot 2 & 4 if you dont have very "tall" ram ie more than 40mm.
I grabbed the best of this thread and stuck it here.
Mem that does fit would be handy though :)
Thanks googles & split, I'm thinking of getting this RAM on a new system
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...227-204&depa=0
but don't know how tall the OCZ VX DIMMS are.
well anakin has already said that the vx fits in slot 2 & 4 with xp-120 (pipes facing gfx) so there you go.
i have the vx too so ill be getting the xp-120 in a couple of days...now i have to decide which fan to mate with the xp-120 :D
good luck mate
Thanks so much!
So I guess the xp120 fits well on the DFI NF4 Ultra-D if you have the heatpipes facing the graphics card? Just wondering, I am interested in getting this heatsink, but is it worth getting over my Zalman CNPS-7000Al-Cu? Was it hard to install the xp120?
I've owned a zalman 7000cu in the past and I must say that it was much easier to install it and uninstall it than with this xp120. Performancewise the xp120 is better, but then again you could get a zalman 7700cu (weights about 1Kg). Overall the change over a Zalman CNPS-7000Al-Cu won't be breathtaking unless you use a Delta 120mm fan on your xp120 :2cents:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sgt_Strider
Is the zalman 7700cu as good? I wonder if this would be better?
http://www.nvnews.net/reviews/silenx...er/index.shtml
Read this.
The prob with the zalman is you are limited to the max speed of the fan (not much).
If you want good cooling at high overclocks that might be a problem, so in theory the xp120 is far more flexible as it can easily take faster fans.
I just found this thread,Quote:
Is the zalman 7700cu as good? I wonder if this would be better?
Anandtech, "Official" DFI nF4 Ultra-D / SLI-DR Thread
There is a link there where you can see a Zalman 7700cu fited on the DFI,
LINK
http://www.subzero.plus.com/Image10.jpg
http://www.subzero.plus.com/Image11.jpg
http://www.subzero.plus.com/Image12.jpg
;) or i ought to buy an zalman7700?
thanks
jeebus, that comes CLOSE to the memory. Glad i got my XP-120
Here are my specs:
DFI NF4 Ultra DR-SLI W/BIOS ?
AMD64 4000+ (San Diego)
Thermalright XP-120 CPU HSF w/ Thermaltake 120mm fan
OCZ DDR 500 Gold VX 4000 (512x2)
BFG 7800 GTX OC
74 GB WD Raptor SATA
OCz Modstream 520w PSU
NEC 16X DVD Writer
Lian Li PC65B Case
Win XP Home SP2
These parts are in transit to my house, I'm curious about how to install this and if everything will be compatible in relation to my graphics card / heatsink / ram.
Which picture (how should I install my heatsink) should I follow to ensure premier performance from my computer?