Are there any pics of a watercooled SLI-System so far?
i´ve already seen a phase changed one but no watercooled.. only one @ inquirer and there wasnt much to see
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Are there any pics of a watercooled SLI-System so far?
i´ve already seen a phase changed one but no watercooled.. only one @ inquirer and there wasnt much to see
I did run watercooling for 1 card only since the 2nd block is still Work-In-Progress. It will be done this tuesday. The temp difference is quite a lot between watercooling and stock cooling as you can see below. Note: normally the temp of the 2nd card is couple degrees lower so the temp diff is even bigger.
http://www.anti-x.org/bbs/attachment...fai-vs-air.jpg
The half-water and half-air setup is pictured below:
http://www.anti-x.org/bbs/attachment...pOiM_combo.jpg
k thnx add some more pics if you got the second done
but nice job man.. ;)
the cooler is looking really nice. nice work :)
Thanks guys. It is made locally by a friend using CNC machine. I have Innovatek GPU+RAM block for my 6800 Ultra AGP card but it does not fit PCIe card.
i will get an Inovatek Cool-Matik for my 6800 Ultra soon... i have to get a dual radiator before.. what was the full load temp?
very nice block
indeedQuote:
Originally Posted by enzoR
indeed very nicely made blocks :)
Nice work on the block again :toast: you should sell them and beat up dangerden :cool:
nice work ;) , but you must have an asus Board to use them , not enough compact.
I suggest you to put the exits on the side or bottom of the waterblock for the second one. :toast:
http://pageperso.aol.fr/misteroadster/68003.JPG
As I said before, Innovatek CoolMatic cannot fit PCIe card due to extra capacitor circled below...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bla$nA
http://www.anti-x.org/bbs/attachment...800gt-pcie.jpg
Due to brand unawareness, he is making a few block only and selling them to a few friends locally but I am sure he does not mind overseas customers if you guys are interested. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by orig3n
In fact, I measured the thickness - it is <20mm and the fittings are purposedly made above the cards so they should not become obstructions.Quote:
Originally Posted by misteroadster
FYI, I did try to fit in my cards on MSI SLI sample board and it was okay.
Here is a close-up picture of the block.
http://www.anti-x.org/bbs/attachment...5_IMG_0367.jpg
And the other side? :D
Wait a while. Either I take mine off or wait till tomorrow when I get the 2nd block. Sorry!! :worship:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kriller
it would be also better for the flow if the exits are on the side :) .Quote:
Originally Posted by H2OGun
But really beautifull Waterblocks :toast:
Ah, thanks for the suggestion and I'll let him know.Quote:
Originally Posted by misteroadster
Solder the cap on the back side, if thats not to extreme for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by H2OGun
That's really a bit too extreme for me... as easy as it looks... worry about the warranty and card's resale value... :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dissolved
shhhh no one will know ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by H2OGun
Ah, got it. I will keep my big mouth shut then. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dissolved
I dont blame you ;) i hate removing blocks from videocards then having to clean up all the goop off the chips :(Quote:
Originally Posted by H2OGun
H2OGun - amazing block, mate! :D I just think that 1/2" fitting should be better (flow reasons), but still kinda kick-ass one!!! :D DangerDen and Innovacrap should be ashamed ;) How much do you ask for it anyway? :p:
Dissolved - solderign cap on other side has it's problems, man! I would STRONGLY WARN ANYONE ABOUT SOLDERING CAPACITOR TO OTHER SIDE OF ANY PCB!
Why? I did it. The card stoped working. Aparently, when multilayer PCB come in game, it simply happens, that the cap has to get some contact even "inside" the hole. Believe me or not, this is very very hard to make by hand soldering :( I solder from my 6 years (and Im soon 30...) and I did have problems.
Sure, there could be lucky guy that manage it w/o even knowing it, but believe me, he got more luck that mind then! For example, for space reasons I decided to replace 100Mhz switch on DFI LP B mobos by just a wire, so my NB cooler could be better. On first of my two mobos is worked flawlessly w/o a glitch. The second one I resoldered about 7 times, before it start kicking again.
Same for FX5600XT Gigabite card. One capacitor was too close for the DangerDen Maze4 GPU cooling block, so I soldered it from the back of the card. Wrong idea. The card never worked again, till I solder the capactitor back in place - from front, using the PCB contacts rather to add wires and move it to the need distance... :(
So, I doing such things, but I did not recommend them anyway. Is not better buy H2OGun cooler that the Innovacrap instead of voiding the warranty and getting into possible trouble? :confused: :stick:
Thanks!! For the record, I bought it from a friend of mine. The guy is really good with designing and making metal stuffs with CNC machine. I have asked his permission to publish his selling price here so here goes. The 6800 waterblock 's selling price is US$80 but any payment and S&H charges are buyer's responsibility. Also, this is really made-to-order so it will take some time to get the blocks ready. The fitting thread's is G1/4 size same as Innovatek.Quote:
Originally Posted by trodas
P.S. MOD, please don't ban me. This is not a commercial posting!!
Im certainly interested in 2 of these and i bet some other aussie members over at OCAU are such as eva ;) so maybe we could get a group buy together :)
Is it possible to have the blocks fitted with 1/2" ID barbs, thats what we are big on over here ;)
I will ask him about fitting the 1/2" barb. Will let you know. In the mean time, anyone interested with the blocks, can always PM me - A group buy and/or individual buy are all welcome. :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by orig3n
cool. nice blocks ...i will be interested once i get my SLI system. you should post this in service or sales section.
Thanks. It was not intended to be a FOR-SALE posting. Sorry!! :worship:Quote:
Originally Posted by a5h
I was just responding to others' question.
As promised, here are some pictures of my SLI waterblocks for 6800GT/U. The fitting's positioning is asymmetric so tight spacing between cards shouldn't be a problem. Also, I just got the confirmation from the maker that it is possible to fit the block with 1/2' barb.
http://www.anti-x.org/bbs/attachment...20012-013s.jpg
http://www.anti-x.org/bbs/attachment...20016-017s.jpg
The following picture is to give an idea on how it looks on MSI K8N Diamond which has a very tight spacing.
http://www.anti-x.org/bbs/attachment...ure%20015s.jpg
:slobber: :slobber: :slobber: :cool:
They look so professionally done :) Have you weighed them yet ? :)
They are really beautifully made. More pics here...Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
http://www.anti-x.org/bbs/attachment...ure%20019s.jpg
http://www.anti-x.org/bbs/attachment...ure%20020s.jpg
And, to answer Eva's question re its weight:
http://www.anti-x.org/bbs/attachment...ure%20022s.jpg
Just in case you guys want to see the bigger version of the above pictures.
http://premium1.uploadit.org/WaterGun/Picture-017.jpg
http://premium1.uploadit.org/WaterGun/Picture-016.jpg
http://premium1.uploadit.org/WaterGun/Picture-013.jpg
http://premium1.uploadit.org/WaterGun/Picture-012.jpg
http://premium1.uploadit.org/WaterGun/Picture-014.jpg
http://premium1.uploadit.org/WaterGun/Picture-019.jpg
http://premium1.uploadit.org/WaterGun/Picture-020.jpg
thanks that 450 grams ?
Yes, exactly 450 grams.Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
Very nice blocks, your friend has some talent.
Wow 450 Gramms!
I'm using The Alphacool NVXP (love it!!!) and it has 620 gramms!
Does cool the power converters too though.
Pics for those who don't know this pretty new cooler:
http://people.freenet.de/mustrum/NVXP3.jpg
(Those bubbles are gone now)
http://people.freenet.de/mustrum/NVXP5.jpg
http://people.freenet.de/mustrum/NVXP%20003.jpg
Damn now i want a SLI system! DOH
wow.... he should seriously give that idea to some companies... they could use a tip.
hurry and patent it!! wow those are some nice waterblocks :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by idleuser
Thats very true, some bugger of a company will come & nick the design otherwise.
this block look soo sick !! :slobber:
congrats :toast:
me would never decide to buy a SLI sys.
too expensive :D
Btw, how does this cools compare to the silverpop fusion HL?
@H2O Gun: I know that the Innovatek Cool-Matik Nv40 normaly does not fit with the PCI-E 6800GT/Ultra but i got an Agp one and i just wanted to know the load temps with it on the agp one :D
and sry for my late answer i wasnt online for two days now ;(
Please tell me we can buy some of these!!! :toast: :banana:
do you mean the Alphacool NVXP from mustrum?
I cant help think it'd be easier for sli setups if the barbs/holes were in the top of the cooler facing upwards.
Is it simply too hard to put them there?
I dont think it's feasible with this type of waterblock design. that is ofcourse you want to add some elbow barbs but then again it'll take space inbetween the cards.
They are Truly Sweet, I recon il have to get me some of these for my SLI setup, atm i have 2 Fusion SL blocks on 2 6800 GT's ( but no SLi mobo:( to test them)
Waaaay Sweet Blocks WE WANT THEM ,hook us up :slobber:
Just send me a PM. Thanks!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Stumpjumper5200
DANG! Very nice :slobber: :slobber:
I can't resist to them... :slobber:
Ordered a pair of them :D
Hope they can make me happy with my new rig... any ideas about how to insulate them right?
What is the clear side made of? I need to know what temps it will tolerate.
Absolutely beautiful work. Would be the best if it will tolerate sub-zero temps.
By the pictures, I think that the clear side is made of acrilic and don't know if it's thick enough to tolerate sub-zero temps...Quote:
Originally Posted by Onycho
I want to use mines with a chiller... can someone say something about it?
Copper top's would be better, but...
copper tops with add a lot of weight, its already a fairly beefy thing, i asked if a delrin top could be made, they where pretty helpfull and tryed to source the material but couldnt yet, said they would try again on monday
What is "delrin"? If it's better than acrilic for waterchilled (if we can say that acrilic is good for that :rolleyes: ), then I'm interested too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smurfy
I've allready ordered mine's, but think that can wait for the reply about delrin...
H2oGun: nice blocks you have there :banana:
The maker is truly talented & yourself H2OGun would have to be one truly fortunate SLI user indeed
nice :cool:
derlin is a non clear plastic based material that is very very very durable and very easy to machine. it is probably the best material to machine out there as far as ease of workability and quality of the cuts. The good thing about it is that it will never crack. if anything it will flex, but it wont crack.
People over at OCAU love your work and are very interested but they would need to be derlin tops as everyone is in fear of them cracking over an extended period of thermal cycling :(
Just to let you guys know, he found delrin, it cost me $20 extra per card ($40) which i felt was reasonable as he must have done a bit of research to find the material and i did say i was willing to pay extra for a delrin top if he could source it.
Apparently my 2 blocks will be shipped out on monday so should have them fairly soon, atm i have my SLi setup cooled by 2 x Silveprop SL il give a comparison when i get them installed bare in mind i will not install them straight away, my SLi watercooling took me around 6 hours in total to install:P
God i hope nothing goes wrong:P
It is very good to see some nice SLI watercooling solutions already under production - you have some fantastic and professional looking blocks there :). Have you considered adding dimples, or small pins to the part of the block that looks to be cooling the video card's RAM? The troughs that are in there now probably will not do too much in the way of generating lots of turbulence.
Personally, I'll be holding out on SLI untill someone figures out how to peltier cool both of the video cards :D.
let us know how it goes ? so you have the version with barbs facing opposite directions ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Smurfy
Here is a couple of pics of the Innovatek NV40 blocks in an SLI system. 2 mm of dremel action, and they fit fine. Now, I just have to wait until the MSI board arrives Wednesday, then bye bye ASUS.
dwwalker, correct me if im wrong, but in that second pic there is no pump. i see 2 vid cards, cpu, and two rads, but no T line, no res or no pump... am i seeing things??
It is hiding in the 5 1/4 inch bay area at the front of the case. So, you don't actually see the pump or reservoir when looking into the system. The CM Stacker is huge, so it was easy to place there.
And, now looking at the pic on the bottom right side, it is easy to think the hose to the cpu comes from the rad. They overlap almost exactly in the pic.
I am rebuilding the system when the MSI board arrives, and I also have tee lines coming as well. Right now everything is in series. Pump, CPU, small rad, GPU 1, GPU 2, then big rad, back to pump.
ahh ic.. wow, my vision is going.. lol.
Did you dremel the lower right of your CoolMatic? I tried to fit that block on my card before but I can't becoz of the capacitor on the lower right.Quote:
Originally Posted by dwwalker14335
I took the top of the block, measured it out, and used a grind stone the same size as the cap. Then, I ground it, test fitted, ground some more. After I had one fit, I ground the other identical to the first. It does not take too much to get it to fit. Also, I took off the plastic middle part (mine had the blue LED insert, ground that to match, and then put it all back together. The top plate did not need to be touched, since it cleared the cap. So, the blocks look stock still.
Nice!
To let you guys know i recieved my Watergun waterblocks ( dont know the name but the one H20's m8 makes) I have to say at first glance they look very well made, atm they are in need of a bit of cleaning with a soft cloth and some brasso, but they look very well made, il try and get some pics if i can get my brother to lend me his camera on friday. Il also post Temp differences and overclocking differences.
VTW yes i got the version with barbs facing opposite directions
Post those pics. It will be interesting to see how well they work, as well.
Has anyone else use any other blocks successfully? Mainstream (DangerDen, Innovatek, etc) or custom?
Well i dunno if you say but i currently have 2 Fusion SL on the block, id be very surprised if these blocks outperformed them but the fusion SL's i have make it impossible for me to cool 2 of the ram chips on each card which im slightly worried about. atm on my system im gettign temps of
CPU:(3000+ @ 9 x 285)
32 idle
37 Load
(based on the MSI Core Centre on Neo Diamond Sli)
GPU1 (6800 GT stock)
35 Idle
GPU2 ( 6800 GT stock)
38 Idle
Its intrestign to see the temp difference between the 2 blocks, they are being run in parallel as im mainly worried about the CPU.
I dont know weather its due to a difference in the mountings or if its to do with the different tubing lengths ( i.e higher resistance lower flow).
I have to say for those who are wandering about SLI, it really down pwn.
I did a little testing, and I have found that running the cards in series keeps the temps of the video card within 1 degree, where using a couple of t-connectors had them at 3C difference.
If you have the time, run each card with the block by itself to get the normal idle temp. Then put the hottest one first in series instead of parallel. Otherwise, it can be hard to keep the flow even accross both cards. Mine were actually equal.
I am going to experiment some more this weekend regarding the GPU temps within series and parallel coolant flows. I want to see what works best.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smurfy
i emailed jeremy from silverprop asking about sli mounting issues and he replied that the fusion HL when mounted takes up less space than the double slot reference 6800ultra cooler. so there's no reason to get an SL and not cool your ram in an sli setup
Quote:
Originally Posted by jikdoc
The silverprop does not actively cool the RAM. It is just the GPU block, correct? So, if you put passive heatsinks on the RAM, where does the tubing go? You have to route it across a couple of RAM chips, so those go uncooled. True? I was looking at the spec of the block, and while low profile, the tubes do not allow passive heatsinks on a couple of the DDR chips.
If there is enough room to fit the HL in it i cant see it having enough room to fit ram coolers under the tubing maybe if you removed the Copper backplate which could be an option but not one i took.
the SL performs extremely well i have to say very impressed with it so far, infact very impressed with the temps from the whole system assuming they are accurate.
dwwalker14335: I saw one guy who cut down his ram heatisnks from teh stock setup when he watercooled.. he just used a dremel.. it worked really well to get the block to fit and keep the heatsinks.. I suggest you do the same.. it will work nicely
Actually, I am using the Innovatek blocks, so no problem with RAM cooling here. Just discussing RAM cooling options on the Silverprop low profile GPU heatsinks. ;)
there's plenty of room underneath the fusion HL for ramsinks. i've got some mounted underneath the tubing just fine. i'll borrow a camera sometime this week and take pics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smurfy
I second jikdoc. My bro has 2x6800GT with 2xHL's. The cards have the original ramsinks that came with them (xfx cards btw). The HL's leave more than enough room for his ramsinks and i can see that there is enough room for the Tweakmonster ones aswell, im taking the tubing into consideration too. He is leak testing right now. The height of the HL sits lower than the cards double slot bracket so i see no reason for these to not fit on an SLI board that doesnt have the extra space that the Asus board has. I am anxiously awaiting the DFI boards to ship and am in the process of choosing which cards to get myself. The DFi SLI board is one that has restricted space between the pci-e x16 slots unlike the Asus and whichever cards i choose to get i can tell you that they will have Silverprop Fusion HL's slapped straight on them :) . As soon as a buddy comes over with a camera i'll get my bro to post some shots for you to see too.
Cheers, dEl. :toast:
Well im not doubting and maybe i should have got the HL blocks and depending on how the 2 Watergun Blocks work, i may change to them.
Il try and get a picture to show you just how cramped my setup is as it really is a tight fit, by the looks of the HL its a monster in terms of height and my naural reaction was to assume it wouldnt fit but if its less than 2 cards then it must fit and i must have been wrong:)
EDIT: Added Pics ( Sorry for poor quality il try and get some with a betetr camera sometime soon)
As you can see it is tight, but when lookng at it i there is a fair bit more space available by removing teh copper backplate and moving the zip ties ( i use zipties instead of jubilee clips)
http://www.ukvsmurfy.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/pic1.jpg
http://www.ukvsmurfy.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/pic3.jpg
The Picture above Shows the Bottom of the stock cooled when rested against the top of the first card as you can see there is barely 1 mm spare between the copped backplate and the stock cooler
http://www.ukvsmurfy.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/pic2.jpg
These 2 pictures show the Watergun Waterblocks ( i call them that as i have no other name for them)
http://www.ukvsmurfy.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/watergunwaterblocks.jpg
http://www.ukvsmurfy.pwp.blueyonder....terblocks1.jpg
What is the name and make of that waterblock????Quote:
Originally Posted by misteroadster
where I can find cool-matic waterblocks for 6800GT/U PCIe in north America(Canada)?
I don't understand German so I had hard time exploring their online shop
You can get them at highspeedpc.com.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarilynMX
Also, there is a new rev of the NV40 block that fits the PCI-E cards right out of the box. Ask about those. Mine took a little dremel action to fit.
And, the reason why I chose the Innovatek? Cooling? Sure. Copper Core? Nice to have. Cools the RAM? Hmmm. Does the power rail too? Nice add. The real reason? I like the "perty boo cullas". ;)
Doesn't anyone know??
It's PGEO it was french , this brand is dead :(
Okay, time for an update. Just hooked up the custom waterblocks to a pair of 6800U and here is the temp difference.
Stock heatsink
http://www.anti-x.org/bbs/attachment...AirCooling.jpg
Custom SLI waterblocks
http://www.anti-x.org/bbs/attachment...aterCooled.jpg
nice how about under load ?
Can you please recommend the tools to test 100% load. I remember that there is a program called HDLRD or something like that, but I can't get the name right. Hence I can't find it. Sorry!!Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
EDIT: found it. Name is rthdribl_1_2.zip
Hey H20Gun.. Did those blocks that i bought from ya get out in the mail yet?
Pick them up from the machinist last nite and I'm done with packing but Post Office is not open on sunday. They will go out first thing monday morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by eclypse
Flippin Sweet to hear man! Thanks!
Can someone tell me where i might beable to pick up some barbs for these blocks? 1/2" elbow is what i'm lookin for.
Eva, here is the load temp of GPU1 after running the program >10mins. GPU2 temp is pretty much the same as idle temp. Maybe the prog does not support SLI yet.
http://www.anti-x.org/bbs/attachment...load-small.jpg
CoolTechnica has it here: http://www.cooltechnica.com/Merchant...e=Barb_FittingQuote:
Originally Posted by eclypse
But, it is not a swivelling head one so the best you can use is 1 elbow and 1 straight combo.
COol thanks.. That'all work out great. THats what i was originally thinkig of using anyways heh.
With wat are those blocks sealed? (black stuff)
nice load temps indeed :)
Did you mean the black stuff in the middle of the block? If yes, it's a plasticky material to prevent water going around outside the channel.Quote:
Originally Posted by <Wouter>