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hi there all,
i'm looking for a new CPU/MoBo. right now the only nForce4 MoBo (with SLI :D ) that i can get is the Gigabyte K8NXP-SLI. :rolleyes:
so i wonder if any one of you had the opportunity to test?! if so, do you recommend it?! :confused:
thanks all
whoa, where can you get it? I dont know about the SLI version, but at anandtech they did a review of the NForce4 Ultra K8NXP-9, and it looked pretty sweet, the vdimm supposed to be up to 3.1, vcore up to 1.8, and I think 350-400 max fsb, it looked like a pretty sweet overclocker. I would rather get one of the gigabytes, so I would recommend it to you.
No, vcore is up to 1.75V, and vdimm is up to 2.8V.
If you want extreme voltages and SLI, you should wait for DFI, like me.
I see no reason why not because most of the people here are upgrading in Feb., just when the DFI is supposed to hit the shelves (or even sooner) IIRC.
you could wait but if the rumors are true that the dfi is 5% slower than go for the giga, I know I will if the dfi is slower. I dont need all those cpu and vdimm volts anyway
that's it! you see, the problem is that all what we hear are rumours!! :stick:
until now, no one did report about or even test the DFI! :rolleyes:
rumors are saying dfi wasnt part of nvidias plans or something so they had to implement pci-e differently and their way is slower, let me see if I can bump the thread on it
do you mean the XLI technology?! :)
:D :D :DQuote:
taken from HEXUS.net
XLi technology?
Posted on Sunday, 12 December, 2004 by David
Last week at NVIDIAs editors’ day I spent some time talking to 2nd Tier Taiwanese mainboard vendor, who have recently been working hard to break into the enthusiast market, something which we have seen strong support for.
We have learnt that NVIDIA needed to pick key partners in order to develop SLI. They decided to worked with the 'big 3' - in the form of MSI, ASUS, and Gigabyte. These three worked with NVIDIA in order to build the reference solution and following that to iron out the original bugs, both silicon and electrical. As a result you will probably see a lot of similarity in these manufacturers' boards over the coming months.
NVIDIA also released SLI chipsets to the other mainboard vendors but did not provide the same level of direction and support, which should hopefully lead to some more varied products.
In our extensive SLi coverage we showed the bridge ‘PCB’ connector and the physical 'SODIMM' selection PCB. This allows the user to select single or dual graphics cards. Over the past few years we have seen more and more migration from hardware based tweaks to BIOS integration so this sudden reversal was a surprise to us.
However, from our conversations with several tier 2 vendors we have learnt that there other board vendors have decided to take a different approach and are attempting to allow the selection to be performed in the BIOS.
We have also had it reported to us that you do not need the additional PCB bridge, which NVIDIA claims to pump 1GB/s throughput, apparently this can be run via the board. We are dubious about this, but we are interested in seeing the performance hit on this change. We know that the PCI-E bus is capable of running high bandwidth graphics (Alienwares original ALX video array technology).
Since the official launch of SLi it has become apparent that NVIDIA have launched an initiative to help 'control' and provide support to SLI. This is in the form of a validation suite, people can submit boards, chipsets and other parts to their SLi program to check to see if it conforms.
This solution from this board vendor does not appear to be within the SLI guidelines which are outlined by NVIDIA and the top 3 motherboard vendors. But will we see NVIDIA validate it? Only time will tell. All we know for sure is that different vendors will be launching their technology under their own brand.
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Update: From several conversations which we have had today some board vendors do not believe that the performance of this implementation will be to the same level as other SLi products. Our advice? Wait and see - you will see it here first.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=47805
heres that thread. like I said, dfi is slower. their s754 is slower, their nf4 s939 probably will be slower too. big price to pay for it having higher volts without mods
not particularly true.
"heres that thread. like I said, dfi is slower. their s754 is slower, their nf4 s939 probably will be slower too. big price to pay for it having higher volts without mods"
yes, at stock speeds the DFI is a bit slower, but when clocked, they shine much better than the faster stock running brethren clocked
as far as not having the extra volts available for clocking, i fail to see the logic of NOT getting the DFI, if you want max clockage with the most options..................especially volts............
baldy :D
which volts?! vdimm?! DDR BOOSTER!! :D :D
@ Geforce4ti4200: it will be NOT SLOWER then 5%
so, the most less performance will be 5% slower then a "normal" SLI-board
that's because the DFI-board "shall" use the nF4-Ultra....so, with one PEGx16 and one PCIe-x4-slot....that's the reason....
"that's because the DFI-board "shall" use the nF4-Ultra....so, with one PEGx16 and one PCIe-x4-slot....that's the reason...."
bldegle2, it may be faster when overclocked because it can overclock more than 5% ahead of other motherboards. However both at stocks or both at equal clocks, the dfi is slower. One could simply choose to just use the ddr booster or practice some soldiering if he wishes to avoid the nf4 ultra's 5% penelity.
How do you know it will clock higher than any other nforce4 mobo? Lately MSI has been head with the neo, so I think it has more chance of being the better overclocker. have you go a link for the DFI overclocking more Geforce? (EDIT) I am not thinking of buying one, I am just trying to stay up to date with the tech lol. If it is 5% slower at stock it would mean it would have to overclock 5% more than another board if it is indeed slower clock for clock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geforce4ti4200
@ geforce4ti4200:
man, do you just live for benching or do you game with your pc too?
and that shall be the maximum how i told.....sometimes it will be 3% slower, sometimes 1%, sometime 2,3%, etc
95% of 100fps are 95fps
95% of 10fps are 9,5fps
95% of 50fps are 47,5fps
95% of 400fps are 380fps
95% of 10000marks are 9500marks
95% of 80000marks are 76000marks
so, do you want to tell me, that i'll have a smaller "willy" when i just can play HL2 with 47,5fps then with 50fps or when i've 9500marks then 10k?
actually hold on if it is 5% slower that is = to 150mhz cpu speed less at 3ghz!. It cannot be THAT much slower clock for clock than other boards. so both clocked at 3.0ghz the dfi would only act as a 2.85ghz powered comp, I very much doubt it.
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Originally Posted by JWB
no, they just mean the SLI-performance!
because the DFI will use one 16xPCIe and one 4xPCIe - not two 8xPCIe-slots!
(because they'll make a nF4-Ultra board, not a nF4-SLI board)
there using an NF4 Ultra eh? Wasn't sure on that but ok. Now it would be interesting as to why your saying 5 percent...I mean come on there is almost no difference inbetween AGP 4x and 8x, and this thread is basicly doing the same thing PCI-E 8x vs PCI-E 4x. The preformance hit would be so small that it wouldn't matter
jjcom
I think he knows that. But like how my Abit NF7-S was a bit stronger than my infinity per clock. It would just be weird now... with the mem-controller on the cpu.
i said..........................already.
"bldegle2, it may be faster when overclocked because it can overclock more than 5% ahead of other motherboards. However both at stocks or both at equal clocks, the dfi is slower."
as far as volt mods, i prefer to not do them, i have fried a board or two with some insane stuffs in the past, and as far as the booster goes, although i could get it to work in my DFI, it would not supply more than what the board would deliver with a juiced 3.3 and one of Jess13's 4.0 vdimm bios's.
when the next DFI incarnation comes out, i am sure they will have enough play things in the bios to keep everyone busy and fairly happy. :D
baldy
Honestly, I will go for highest overclocking board. I've had my best luck with Asus back in S754. Easily 20-30mhz more overclock out of it than Chaintech or DFI (until it died). If the trend for last few years holds up, A8N might be the choice again granted we can find out a way to implement vcore vmod.
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Originally Posted by jjcom
http://www.tbreak.com/reviews/article.php?id=340
Listen to me..do NOT get this board unless you don't OC.
Friend(moderator at Coolaler forum) tried that already. it sucks all the way.;)
thanks mate :toast:
you mean the Gigabyte?Quote:
Originally Posted by Onepagebook
yep, he does! :D
the MSI nf4 ultra looks to do the same thing the DFI will be doing, 'cept maybe the dfi is a 16x and 4x and the MSI is a 16x and 2x.
but the MSI in the 2 or 3 threads about it is overclocking like crazy.
Another vote for the MSI motherboard.
BTW naelq, we live in the same country, and you know like me that the only "available" motherboard is the Gigabyte one (well not exactly available, just orderable) :(
I think we should wait for Pandas to get the MSI... I hope shortly!
Also, which PSU are planning to get? and where did you find the 6800PCI-E? Link me please :D :toast:
ahlan achi! :D
as for the MoBo, true it's preorder (should be here in 2 or 3 days! ;)) & i do believe that the MSI one will be available next week! :)
if you are in interested in a PCIe 6800 (plain, no GT or Ultra) then you can order from them, but if it's the GT or ULTRA, then we should order abroad!! :stick: (which what i'm going to do!! :D :D)
Ah, & as for PSU. right now i have:
1. Fortron 530W
2. Enermax NT 475W
3. i'm ordering an OCZ PS520 or a TAGAN 480W
BTW, if you interested in doing a group order, send me a pm ;)
Ma kore :D
So I have some questions for you:
1. From where did you got that Forton?
2. I know where I can get a Tagan (I prefer Enermax though), but I can't find the OCZ aynwhere in the holyland (Still searching for PCP&C anyways :D)
3. Really? You can preorder A 6800nu from Pandas? SoundS sweet but I think i'll put the extra shekels for an Ultra. So where are you ordering from? GT/U?
BTW, Pandas says the Gigabyte board will be here in 8 days, not that i'm gonna buy it... Anyways if the MSI will make it to next week it will be very nice :toast: