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Originally posted by ABIT Marketing on 08-27-2004
NF4 Fatal1ty board will be available late this year or early next year depends on when the chipset is available. And yes it will have PCI-E, SATA 300 and other ABIT innovative features that I can not talk about right now. :)
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Originally posted by ABIT Marketing on 10-30-2004
New update on the AN8 Fatal1ty, it will be released around late of November instead of December. :)
i will wait for DFI's offerings.
Yeah, the DFI looks awesome and if it comes out before the AN8 I'll buy it too
probably will be a month or so after the abit is released. hopefully before Xmas.Quote:
Originally Posted by EQuito
i'm still waiting my NF8 board :)
the DFi..................... is it goung to be AGP as well as PCI................. i am refering to the 939 board not the 754 ???
I think their might be a NF3 LanParty and later a NF4 Lan party....
No AGP on any NF4 we've seen so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by bradpit999
The NF8 (754) is doomed from the start, too little too late IMHO... :(Quote:
Originally Posted by tictac
NF4 would be nice, but i wont upgrade untill the pci-e cards geta bit more advanced..
are there pics of the AN8 Fatal1ty?
Not yet, only pics of the plain AN8Quote:
Originally Posted by p4z1f1st
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=44016
jjcom,
That's the AA8 Fatal1ty. We're talking about the AN8 Fatal1ty here... :stick:
:toast:
it was meant as speculation on how it might look...yeah..umm..that was plan from the start...of course it was...dont look at me like that...*cough*
LOL
jjcom
oh ok... :cool: but actually, I think it'll look more like this with the OTES stuff added to it:Quote:
Originally Posted by jjcom
yeah I agree...opps I got the two threads confused...I clicked thinking this was the Intel topic thing...o'well :(
ok here you go.........
ABIT fata1ity :explode:
http://www.abit.com.tw/upload/englis...e/index-en.htm
what does this mean anyway... is the multiplier for P4 unlock? :shrug:
"...On the Fatal1ty AA8XE is specially designed unlockable BIOS, which grants the user a number of BIOS options designed to push the system to the very limits for unmatched gaming performance..."
Once again, that's the AA8 Fatal1ty. We're talking about the AN8 Fatal1ty... :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by tictac
:hehe: wops... sorry then
AN8 Fatality..... i cant give you any info yet ... sorry.... :hehe:
:hehe: multiplier is unlock tho for AA8 .... :hehe:
DFI or Abit...hrmm, easy choice "OSCAR WU" :banana:
http://www.hardwareluxx.de/andreas/N...mp_k8_1_bg.jpg
Guys I'm sure it will look just like the intel fatal1ty, fans over the dimm slots. mosfet exhaust, blood-red pcb etc.
Every PCI-E board for AMD is coming out "next month." That's been true for about 4 or 5 months now!
Hell of a coincidence it sounds like my plan with dieting. I'm going to start a diet... the same time I always do... tommorrow. :p:
Who cares about the AN8 fatality mobo???????
Where's the SLI version????
I mean really, would you guys even concider paying the $160+ (I 'm sure it will be more in Europe) to pay for the memory fans and the OTES when you can pay another 20-30 to go SLI?? If you like the fatality "notion" then my guess is that you're hardcore. If you are hardcore there is NO WAY you're gonna go for 1 PCI-E 16X instead of 2!!!
I am not going out to diss the AN8 Fatality (I think it's a great addition to the non-SLI crowd), but it seems to me that the hardcore crowd, at the present, is waiting for the SLI, not for flashy fans, "intergrated" mosfet coolers and stuff like that.
Just my 2 cents...
Regardless Intel or AMD - take a look at that MB. Looks like some good stock cooling. Wonder how loud those little fans are?
well hardcore crowd and people with a spare $600 aren't one and the same group.
Overclocking cpu's(which is what we do most across the forum) will be same situation on both boards. Most people, even those who buy an sli board, won't buy a 2nd card straight away, and if you do spend $600 on a 2nd ultra card, the next speed bump nvidia cards will be out in 2 months.
AS for the "they'll be out next month" being said for 3-4 months for pci-e boards, thats bull. We've known the nvidia product launch will be mid october since late august or so, and we knew that was a press thing not available boards.
AS for unlockable features, the multi's might be some of them, dunno if they've scrapped the idea but there was supposed to be the bios codes to unlock more overclocking options, which should include i would guess the vdd voltage options, unlocked multis(very limited and on two chips only) and probably the range of other voltages increased.
Has anyone used this yet? http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...uctCode=240148
thats a new board, not sure if anyone has it yet. Its out of stock so someone must have.
Ya :\ im kinda curious to see how its doing tho.
Fatal1ty AN8 appears to be very close now, no pics yet.
http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/...es=1&model=247
The AN8 SLi shows something called "uGuru 2005" and "Audio Purification Technology", also uses OTES, sounds interesting. Again no pics, check the links every couple of days and there should be something soon.
http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/...es=1&model=246
pfoot
This is typical of zzf. the dfi board was on here when they were going to do the pre orders. It never worked out becuase zzf doesn't give you the option to preorder, they ended up doing the deal with gameve instead. I can assure you that zzf has never had this board in stock.Quote:
Originally Posted by jjcom
That goddamn NEXT MONTH will be the death of me!!@#$!@#%#$%!#$%
abit vs dfi i wonder who will come out on top.
Its going to be interesting to find out which is gana be the biggest badest NF4 board considering that alot of the companys are using NForce other thin via this time arround.Quote:
Originally Posted by Squid_Spit
agreed... :banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by WildKard
he have the skill & mostly interest in helping Overclockers community....
that make the difference between he & other bios engineer :toast:
Well, maybe if someone is "hardcore" as you state, they'd get another board come SLI time :stick: I don't define myself as truly hardcore but Im in this boat. I would be an early adopter and buy a PCI-e mobo from AMD with nearly ANY of the three chipsets, right now(please God why not now :( ) if from a good manufacturer. I curently have an AGP GT that I would think about selling(before it gets much tougher) or trying to trade up with eVGA so I can go PCI-e.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLN
No one here is wow'ed by PCI-e as we know its no faster than AGP. We want it because the current generation of cards is pretty damn good, and that's a concern for a longer haul. I'd probably like to change the board or the cpu out anyways within a few months. You see it is important not to the cheapies, but the middle of the roaders. I will pony up the money for a new board when the time comes but am noticeably less than excited about buying $400 video cards all the time. Everyones different, I guess I used "we" alot because Im sure a bunch are in the same boat. I'll pay for a short lived board if it means I can be comfortable with my card choice for a long haul. I imagine many people with 8 pipe cards getting restless. I was in this boat and jumped the gun a bit. Besides... knowing I might not have the board awhile, it'll give me a little nudge to REALLY GIVE IT HELL!! :D I'm down for a ~$150 experiment witha little promised fun. I am having little hardcore OC fun with my $400 GT simply because I dont exactly know what I want to do with it.
I repeat, there WILL be an AN8 SLi board, see my post above.
pfoot
lets just hope that Abit makes a better board this time around, more compition will drive prices down.
abit AN8 SLi or DFI LAN PARTY SLI :confused:
anyway we still have a much time to think our choise :comp10:
Any news on the release date of a 939 DFI Board?
Me thinks AN8 Fatal1ty will be to expensive.
Given the fact that Abit has not produced a decent overclocking board since NF7-S I kind of doubt they still have the balls to do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by tictac
I have Abit now in my "NO" column, together with Biostar, ECS, and similar crap. The reason: too expensive and meager performance.
This from what used to be the best overclocking name in the business. But everything changes, I guess.
The Intel version of the Fatal1ty turned out very nice. So wouldn't count Abit out just yet
jjcom
Is this one of the ugliest motherboards you've ever seen? yeuck
umm i like that abit fatality ram cooler thing which fits over the dimm slots, hopefully it will be included in the NF4 version :)
yeah that would be nice for people pushing 3.2v+ through their RAM. Very nice idea...I'm really wondering if this will be another NF7 or something...but who knows...all those fans and extra stuff...just more stuff that could go wrong...
jjcom
Ppl on xtreme are just too easily persuaded by one brand, Abit one day, DFI the next (there was a long time ago everyone hated OCZ here, and now everyone wants to suck ryan's :banana::banana::banana::banana: :D). I couldnt give a stuff who designed the board and which gamer promotes the board, as long it overclocks good I will buy it
I couldn't agree more. One thing I do like about DFI's LanParty series is the aesthetics. Not only do they overclock good, they look as good as they overclock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ragnarok
AN8 still long way to go... maybe January/February ;)
AN8:
http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/...es=1&model=245
AN8 Fatal1ty:
http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/...es=1&model=247
AN8 SLi:
http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/...es=1&model=246
AN8-V:
http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/...es=1&model=248
:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: 4 varian... which 1 to choose :toast:
Finally a pic!
http://www.abit-usa.com/images/produ...1ty_an8_lg.jpg
Credit where it is due, got a link from AMDZone.
pfoot
nice one, im wonder if its can go on the voltge ( 4v -vdimm and 2.1vcore) like the dfi.Quote:
Originally Posted by pfoot
tictac are y ready for y "tricks"? ;-)
:hehe: ..... i wish Abit send me the board tho... :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by XTCgr
http://www.abit-usa.com/images/produ...-an8-angle.jpg
http://www.abit-usa.com/images/produ...1ty_an8_lg.jpg
From what I've seen this board doesn't look half bad. I like the layout. The power connector is in a good place (At least for me) the NB cooling won't interfer with a vid card. Theres a cooler for the RAM, the extra fans cooling the board seems alittle different but I could get use to it. Just need to get ahold of one of those boards.
jjcom
why do they use Aluminium Capacitor for Vcore?
Does all 4 phase Vcore system need Aluminium caps? :confused:
Abit better put some good effort into this board, otherwise I think most would go for the DFI.
And they better not charge a high premium for those dinky little fans.
:hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by thephenom
hope so
why did abit put a riser for the audio again?
So they could fit two fans in there.
is there any info about board's BIOS?? specifically about voltages, vcore,vdimm etc?
Layout looks good.. I like the location of the NB more on the Abit board than the DFI solution since you can't fit a 3rd part cooler on the DFI board when gfx installed. But the 4v vdimm still would make me go for the DFI...
The fans over the RAM on the Abit board is a nice thing, but when benching, how hard is it to just put a 80mm fan over them?
If the vtt follows on the Abit board all the way up to 3.5v and don't cost much more than the DFI, I think I'll go Abit.
The board is expected to launch after Chinese New Year
About the voltage it is still confidental...
no info available :hehe:
at least i hope it will be competitive....DFI paved the way!!!
This AN8 Fatal1ty is not ABIT SLi version so there are only 1 PCI express slot..Quote:
Originally Posted by nCrusader
we have not yet seen ABIT SLi northbridge location :hehe:
tictac you sound like you know smthing :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by tictac
Oh, ofcource.Quote:
Originally Posted by tictac
When is the chinese new year? :confused:
9th february i think - not sure
11th i thought.....
They will launch KT890 mobo at the same time :hehe:
* tictac... self destruct... in 5 sec :explode: *
SLi = has lots of issues.
single pci xpress card like a 6800ultra or x800 XL = less issues and teh pwn
If you fall for that SLi crap after many tests have proved that a single card is sometimes faster well I feel sorry for you.
If your smart youll wait for dual cores and SLi that might be the time when SLi really shines as there will be less a bottleneck at the cpu.
Will a currnet socket 939 NF4 mobo support dualcores? Thats still up in the air. MY guess is there will be revised boards if NF4 isnt replaced by NF? in the dual core age by then.
As for me I'm waiting to see how the fatality an8 single pci express board does.
Other reason I'd hold off on SLi is this x16 slots however when using 2 cards they become x8 slots. I'd wait till they figure out how to do dual x 16 slots.
NVIDIA's SLI Shortchanges Gamers? : According to NVIDIA’s marketing, NVIDIA’s Scalable Link Interface (SLI) "can deliver as much as 2x the performance of a single GPU configuration for unparalleled gaming experiences." What NVIDIA fails to make clear, however, is that SLI currently requires NVIDIA to write driver profiles for each game to support SLI. Are all the games you want to play supported? :banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Gamers dont use SLi :banana:
All mine are supported. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by tictac
Cool :bsod:
:hehe:
There are programs around to create your own SLI profiles, thus allowing you to play any game with SLI. This is what I've heard anyways.
Alot of people unlike you dont want to pay twice for a vid card to have bragging rights meanwhile at quake con ill be playing on a single pci x16 slot getting higher frames in some games then you get with your um cool looking rig. Plus ill have an extra 400 for snacks at quakecon and no I'm not sharing.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLN
SLi is also known to have a frame stutter or a slight lag. A frame stutter or slight vid lag with the fps players i play against = teh fragged.
In answer to the comment on the fans being noisy. Smaller fans do tend to be noisier than lets say a 120 mm. Another factor to take in is the rpm of the fan. Abit has accounted for this and the fans are controlled via system load with the program they offer with the board. Thus gaming is prolly gonna be a little noisier. So will benchmarks. Will they scream like a delta, I highly doubt that. Headphones while gaming work to block out noise and turning sound up a tad more also helps. As for the comment on the reason they use an external sound card ill quote abit.
"Audio performance is also top-notch with 5.1 channel audio backed by ABIT’s AudioMAX technology. By using a separate daughter card for audio connectors, ABIT Engineers have greatly reduced the amount of noise caused by high frequencies generated from the motherboard. "
Heres a quote on fan noise
"For the optimal balance of thermal and acoustic performance, all fans are automatically controlled via µGuru."
I just hope this board performs as well as or better than my abit nf7-s. Hopefully abit has removed they're head from they're A$$ this time around.
AN8 Fatal1ty got Vtt voltage selectable :hehe:
http://www.tictac.katrourke.com/pic/AN8-F2.JPG
Can't agree more. I've tried SLI and gave up with high fluctuation of FPS. Max FPS is cool to have but low FPS ranging below what I consider normal is major turn off unfortunately. For benching though, it is amazing.Quote:
Originally Posted by tictac
BTW, stop teasing and show us what options on voltage there are :)
man they package that in a nice box. if i had the money for 2 rigs that could be all-out benching rigs and not just one be an internet rig, i'd definitely get that abit mobo.
abit is high charging $200+ for a non-sli board. thier rep has'nt been exactly *HOT* to warrant this.
Chew I only have two fans (120mm) in my whole system and that includes my modded PSU. They are at 5V too. so 5 fans this board comes with is definity unwelcome no matter how low they throttle.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
lol, i know exactly what you mean, but they sure think their rep warrants it with their entire fatality line, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zebo
TicTac, you got your board before me. Damn Fed Ex!
Are you going to post some screenies for us?