New WR pifast A64 NewCastle

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10-23-2004, 02:35 PM
YoupY

New WR pifast A64 NewCastle

After a day of tweaking happyness we GoT it

40.59

http://members.home.nl/youpy/ministryoccrewsmall.jpg

Making the Ministry of Overclocking Crew the fastest A64 Newcastle as far as we know :D

The Crew

The Doctor
Fewture
Epsilon
YoupY

And with as guest

Kakaroto

All this started this morning @ 11.00 when the crew gathered. We finished the Dry Ice container at and started to setup the system. In the afternoon the system was ready for benching.

Mobo : Epox 8kda3+
Mem : OCZ EB PC3700
proc : A64 NC 3400+

Too bad we couldn't get any decent results with this setup. After a few tries the Windows install got corrupt and we had to reinstall, which failed upto three times. We got really sick of it and changed the mobo for a DFI NF3-250 Ultra.

In the late afternoon we made progress having 2 systems benching. The system mentioned above and the system of Fewture with

AXP-M 2600+
Abit NF7-s
Twinmos BH5

To our regrets the system of Few didn't live up to our expectations, also troubles of the Windows install. So we decided to give it another go with a DFI infinity tomorrow. So we hope to post more results of it tomorrow...

After a few succesfull runs with the A64 setup we finally reached 40.59. Giving us the fastest Athlon 64 Newcastle ranking with only 0.4 seconds to go for the fastest non FX proc :D

The pics (bad quality :()

http://members.home.nl/youpy/crew1small.jpg

http://members.home.nl/youpy/crew2small.jpg

http://members.home.nl/youpy/crew3small.jpg

http://members.home.nl/youpy/crew4small.jpg

http://members.home.nl/youpy/crew5small.jpg

http://members.home.nl/youpy/crew6small.jpg

There have been made more pics of this day which will hopefully be posted soon
10-23-2004, 02:49 PM
bh2k

wow, some very impressive work there ;)
10-23-2004, 02:50 PM
Syzzer

Hooooly sh*t, way to go!

Nice score!

Gotta have more records for us Dutch people!
10-23-2004, 02:51 PM
Kanavit

is that dry ice setup? I'd like to see some super pi 1mb runs if possible. maybe some 3d runs.

anyways, what a rad looking lan party you guys got going over there. newcastles cg overclock very well.
10-23-2004, 02:53 PM
sapphire

Sweet work dude's
Finally a dutch record again ;)
10-23-2004, 02:54 PM
PMM

0.04 off ;) CodeRed with his 3400+

you need to push further...
10-23-2004, 03:07 PM
YoupY

Quote:

Originally Posted by PMM

0.04 off ;) CodeRed with his 3400+

you need to push further...

If I'm not mistaken CodeRed uses a 3400+ with 1 MB cache making it a claw. Only he and Kunaak stand in the way of the fastest non FX proc.
10-23-2004, 04:18 PM
CodeRed

Quote:

Originally Posted by YoupY

If I'm not mistaken CodeRed uses a 3400+ with 1 MB cache making it a claw. Only he and Kunaak stand in the way of the fastest non FX proc.

Yeah my chip was a 1Mb CH

Superb results there guys :toast:

If your going to bench again, PM me and I'll send you some "tools" to get that 0.04 sec ;)

EDIT: actually need a bit more for S754 WR ... cal930 has done a 40.47 sec. See here :(
EDIT: never mind just saw kunaak's score
10-23-2004, 04:29 PM
The Doctor

Were gonna bench again tommorrow. Think we should be able to get a score lower then 40.19s.
10-23-2004, 07:48 PM
WeStSiDePLaYa

nice work,

but uhhh, is that a container of vaseline i see? in a room full of guys? :bananal:
10-23-2004, 08:23 PM
eva2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by CodeRed

Yeah my chip was a 1Mb CH

Superb results there guys :toast:

If your going to bench again, PM me and I'll send you some "tools" to get that 0.04 sec ;)

EDIT: actually need a bit more for S754 WR ... cal930 has done a 40.47 sec. See here :(
EDIT: never mind just saw kunaak's score

what tools may they be ? :D
10-23-2004, 09:02 PM
CodeRed

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva2000

what tools may they be ? :D

Oh nothing too special, just a small gain from this one ... around 0.05 sec, but sometimes every last ounce is needed.
10-24-2004, 01:25 AM
Zeus

What a bunch of geeks. :D
Well done guys! :toast:
10-24-2004, 02:05 AM
macci

Very nice work there! :toast:
Its done at 283x11 1:1 3-2-2 w/ EB RAM? Pretty damn fast :D

almost a sec. faster than my old 3000+ @3127MHz :)

In case your pushing it again and happen to reach the hexus pifast goal too easy then here's another challenge if your interested :)
10-24-2004, 02:11 AM
CodeRed

Quote:

Originally Posted by macci

Very nice work there! :toast:
Its done at 283x11 1:1 3-2-2 w/ EB RAM? Pretty damn fast :D

almost a sec. faster than my old 3000+ @3127MHz :)

In case your pushing it again and happen to reach the hexus pifast goal too easy then here's another challenge if your interested :)

Yeah, I think if they hit the pifast goal then a lean XP install should see them hit 05:10'ish in superpi 8M. Is that the Newcastle WR?
10-24-2004, 02:40 AM
Mrki

cool guys :D
10-24-2004, 05:04 AM
YoupY

Quote:

Originally Posted by macci

Very nice work there! :toast:
Its done at 283x11 1:1 3-2-2 w/ EB RAM? Pretty damn fast :D

almost a sec. faster than my old 3000+ @3127MHz :)

In case your pushing it again and happen to reach the hexus pifast goal too easy then here's another challenge if your interested :)

This EB's do even faster. We have seen them @ 292 @ 3.0-2-2-5-10-16-1T, but with 10x multi then won't do much more then 295, which gives us too little cpu power.

SuperPi 8M is a nice challenge too :D We'll see if we can do that too
10-24-2004, 09:15 AM
Mrki

Quote:

Originally Posted by YoupY

This EB's do even faster. We have seen them @ 292 @ 3.0-2-2-5-10-16-1T,

:eek:

What? 292 @ 3-2-2-5??? VDimm?
10-24-2004, 09:20 AM
Crow

excellent score :slobber:
10-24-2004, 09:25 AM
macci

Quote:

What? 292 @ 3-2-2-5??? VDimm?

I'd guess there running in the 3.2V range.

mine ran 3-2-2 at 294.8 w/ 3.3Vish
10-24-2004, 09:54 AM
The Doctor

Quote:

Originally Posted by macci

I'd guess there running in the 3.2V range.

mine ran 3-2-2 at 294.8 w/ 3.3Vish

Thats correct ;) it did 292MHz @ 3.2v

Some more pics:

Fewture doing..... something:
http://members.home.nl/youpy/DI3_2.JPG

The container:
http://members.home.nl/youpy/DI3_3.JPG

Me preparing the isolation for the backside:
http://members.home.nl/youpy/DI3_4.JPG

Container on the epox board (board was not used for the pifast run):
http://members.home.nl/youpy/DI3_5.JPG

A look inside the container:
http://members.home.nl/youpy/DI3_6.JPG

what we saw after removing the container (too soon :p: ):
http://members.home.nl/youpy/DI3_7.JPG

Setup overview
http://members.home.nl/youpy/DI3_8.JPG
10-24-2004, 10:13 AM
kakaroto

Looks like fewture is lapping his zalman chipsetsink :banana4:
10-24-2004, 10:19 AM
bh2k

Smoking is bad for you :-p
10-24-2004, 12:57 PM
Epsilon

Quote:

Originally Posted by bh2k

Smoking is bad for you :-p

He was there and he is right :D fewture was lapping a zalman heatsink :P
10-24-2004, 01:07 PM
YoupY

Quote:

Originally Posted by macci

Very nice work there! :toast:
Its done at 283x11 1:1 3-2-2 w/ EB RAM? Pretty damn fast :D

almost a sec. faster than my old 3000+ @3127MHz :)

In case your pushing it again and happen to reach the hexus pifast goal too easy then here's another challenge if your interested :)

The challenge is intresting, but we had some troubles with the DFI today. For some reason it wouldn't boot. After that we tried with an Epox 8kda3+ but we failed getting a windows install. Setup crashed several times and we decided to take an old GigaByte K8N Pro out of the closet where it was collecting dust.

We managed to get some decent results but not the kind we hoped.

Temps :

http://members.home.nl/youpy/ministry_temps.jpg

Max cpu speed :

http://members.home.nl/youpy/ministry_max_small.jpg

SuperPi

http://members.home.nl/youpy/ministry_superpi_small.jpg

Pifast

http://members.home.nl/youpy/ministry_pifast_small.jpg

For some stupid reason I forgot to change the Comand Rate to 1T so all these benches are with 2T :( I'm not sure if the nf3-150 chipset likes 1T but I can rip my head off for not trying at least :(

We have made a go for the 8M SuperPi but @ 3100 Mhz ond the cpu and 283 HTT sync on the mem we should come out near 5.40 if it didn't crash during iteration 17.

We hope to get more lucky next time :D
10-24-2004, 01:14 PM
saaya

http://members.home.nl/youpy/DI3_8.JPG

lol the di on the zalman :ROTF:

wtg guys! :toast:
10-24-2004, 01:17 PM
DeathMonk

what was the vaseline for huhhhhh? ;)
10-24-2004, 02:39 PM
kakaroto

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeathMonk

what was the vaseline for huhhhhh? ;)

no, not that what youre doing every day ;)

only for anti-condensation.
10-24-2004, 03:45 PM
blinky

i use vaseline as well
10-24-2004, 04:18 PM
YoupY

It works well, but since this weekend I prefer plastic spray. Works as good as vaseline but removing vaseline from the board isn't something I enjoy very much.

Plastic spray on the other hand is even harder to remove completely but it doesn't make the mess vaseline does.
10-24-2004, 11:53 PM
Fewture

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

http://members.home.nl/youpy/DI3_8.JPG

lol the di on the zalman :ROTF:

wtg guys! :toast:

Well that really works nice.. The DI sinks into the heatsink and makes great contact. On the NF2 setup the whole NB was frozen :D

Too bad the board is dead now.. Got home last night and it died :/ There is too much kiling going on :rolleyes:
10-25-2004, 12:24 AM
Nazaar

man thats what i call ghetto cooling

:banana4:
10-25-2004, 02:55 AM
Epsilon

The NB was around -30c :) We meassured it in a previous dry-ice run.
10-25-2004, 12:52 PM
SAE

:lol:

When is Fewture NOT going to kill something... ;)

Great job there, guys. :thumbsup:
Push it further! Superpi has to be lower!!! I can get 30secs, and you are using an A64!!! :p:

P.S. But you need 5 persons for doing what I can do alone ;) :p:
10-25-2004, 01:32 PM
DeathMonk

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAE

:lol:

When is Fewture NOT going to kill something... ;)

Great job there, guys. :thumbsup:
Push it further! Superpi has to be lower!!! I can get 30secs, and you are using an A64!!! :p:

P.S. But you need 5 persons for doing what I can do alone ;) :p:

Way to toot your own horn ;p
10-25-2004, 01:34 PM
WeStSiDePLaYa

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAE

:lol:

When is Fewture NOT going to kill something... ;)

Great job there, guys. :thumbsup:
Push it further! Superpi has to be lower!!! I can get 30secs, and you are using an A64!!! :p:

P.S. But you need 5 persons for doing what I can do alone ;) :p:

i smell a showdown!
10-25-2004, 01:56 PM
kakaroto

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAE

:lol:

When is Fewture NOT going to kill something... ;)

Great job there, guys. :thumbsup:
Push it further! Superpi has to be lower!!! I can get 30secs, and you are using an A64!!! :p:

P.S. But you need 5 persons for doing what I can do alone ;) :p:

OC'ing alone is fun, but OC'ing with 5 persons is great fun. :toast:
And the superPI is crap, cause it was runned with 2T. With a good run it must be a good 29sec.
10-25-2004, 10:52 PM
Epsilon

29sec and 5min10sec in 32M is very doable.

We didn't run superpi on the first rig. The main goal was pifast :D.

And btw sae, try using 2 systems which had to be prepared in 1 day :D. You're the k7 master still :D.

setting up the systems just takes a lot of time. It took 2 hours to get both systems running. In another 3 hours, we had that pifast score.

Alone is not as fun with 5ppl zo that's mainly why. And noone had the stuff to do a very good run. 1 has a good motherboard, 1 has good cpu (the other 2 are :banana::banana::banana::banana: :( ) and 1 has the di container + good PSU etc :).
10-26-2004, 02:41 AM
SAE

Quote:

Originally Posted by Epsilon

29sec and 5min10sec in 32M is very doable.

We didn't run superpi on the first rig. The main goal was pifast :D.

And btw sae, try using 2 systems which had to be prepared in 1 day :D. You're the k7 master still :D.

setting up the systems just takes a lot of time. It took 2 hours to get both systems running. In another 3 hours, we had that pifast score.

Alone is not as fun with 5ppl zo that's mainly why. And noone had the stuff to do a very good run. 1 has a good motherboard, 1 has good cpu (the other 2 are :banana::banana::banana::banana: :( ) and 1 has the di container + good PSU etc :).

:lol: Guys, you rock, I must say. It was not my intention to offend anyone. Just a lil fun between me and you Dutch guys :D

IT HAS TO BE FUN TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT WITH 5 WORLD CLASS OCERS LIKE U!!! :thumbsup:

Get it on, guys. :)

P.S. I am only jealous, I don't have friends nearby that OC like mad and could work together with me... ;) ... I have to have all the hardware myself, what's really a problem, you know :D (I only have 50€ spare money a month)
10-26-2004, 02:48 AM
Epsilon

well we live across the netherlands, but a most 70km away or so :). Very well doable with the train :).

I have some more spare money because i still live with my parents and work 10hours/week :D. (still @ school)

It is really an advantage to try things together. i did have all the gear to make a DI run (3400+ NC, dfi (used in this record), DI container (i made the one on the pic), 3700EB mem (not used, but the same as used, i ran pifast 10x293 -> 42.34s), PSU (not used, but same PSU as used). etc :)

But the cpu kakaroto clocks much better (3040mhz pifast, mine did 100mhz less) and we mainly needed that to get the record :D
10-26-2004, 05:17 AM
SAE

Quote:

Originally Posted by Epsilon

well we live across the netherlands, but a most 70km away or so :). Very well doable with the train :).

I have some more spare money because i still live with my parents and work 10hours/week :D. (still @ school)

It is really an advantage to try things together. i did have all the gear to make a DI run (3400+ NC, dfi (used in this record), DI container (i made the one on the pic), 3700EB mem (not used, but the same as used, i ran pifast 10x293 -> 42.34s), PSU (not used, but same PSU as used). etc :)

But the cpu kakaroto clocks much better (3040mhz pifast, mine did 100mhz less) and we mainly needed that to get the record :D

70km is nothing :D

And in order to have some fun with friends and additionally breaking some records... that alliance of Dutch ocers makes sense indeed ;)