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looks very promising, but how about adding some 'sexy' heat-spreaders for the GSkill RAM?! :D :D :D
BTW, it would be nice to see some DDR600 though :banana:
heatspreaders actually make the RAM more warm. You can overclock a little more without them.
if there's one thing i noticed about these tccd chips, they do not get very hot. They just feel warm. To add a heatspreader to the gskill might be a waste and plus they would have to up their prices to accommodate the changeQuote:
Originally Posted by naelq
can u test with OCZ platinum pc3200 rev.2 sometime?
nice tests, ill be picking up some G.Skil mem soon :D
Jesus, that's amazing bandwidth for $250 memory. GSkill low budget DDR doing better than other high end DDR? Is that TCCD on the GSkill budget DDR?
And where did you get it?
so the ocz scores 40mb/s worse at DDR500 even though its running with the same timings? hmmm interesting!
the gskill is tccd right? and the ocz is hynix i guess? hmmmm
but this was not an average stick of gskill, right? it was an enginerring/review sample, right? or is it a regular retail pack?
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Originally Posted by saaya
it's just random select from retail package.. :D
wow....
where did you buy it? *pulls out wallet*
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Originally Posted by Torin
I don't know if I can bring it here.
wooohooo, that gskill is some great stuff. wish i could get my hands on some :( good job :toast:
F1-3200dsu2-1gbld ?
Edit: That leads to another question, what's the difference between the 1GBLD, 1GBLC and 1GBLE other than price? All use TCCD...
Edit #2: I noticed it is 1GBLD from one of your pics...
wow thats amazing , Let me post a comparison of OCZ to GSkill of my own LOL
Note: As you can see , its nice that you come in and post what your companies product can do here , in fact I do it all the time.
but comparing it to your competitors , well that might be a little to biased
Then again , I might be wrong , In which case I better get to benchmarking
no, i think your right ryan. 1pagebook, i think your going a bit too far advertising your memory :/
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Originally Posted by saaya
I am sorry, but I just try to post what I ha, I did not have that much bias.
I do apologize for all you guys feel that way. :(
Thanks for the benchmarks and I must agree with others as this is crossing the line into marketing/advertising.
I feel that one of this sites appeal is the lack of adverts and banners. I suggest contacting the top benchmarkers found here and offering memory samples for them to bench with. if your product is best of show they will sport the product name in the benchmark submissions. This is standard procedure.
I will allow the benchmarks but any further marketing will be frowned upon. I need to be fair to the other memory manufacturers and keep the site clean.
Nice results..
damzn that 3500+ 90nm is that 3GHz @1.5v :slobber:
Well...I tested OCZ and Gskill and not being biased in anyway :p the OCZ did better...LOL;),It all depends on how you tweak it :banana4: , with 3-4-3-10 1T doing 294fsb or so with the OCZ modules and the Gskill not fairing quite as well.I also see a lot of benches with 256 modules Vs 512 which is always biased to the 256's as they create less load.
Its ok posting benchmarks but only post your own and leave the reviews to reviewers ;).
well its nice to have you guys post some sick numbers and cool ocs advertising your new lines of memory, but lets not go down to the "mine is better than theirs" level.
as you said tony, thats best to be decided by reviewers and end users. :)
LOL... Send Saaya some ram please!!!!!! We *need* some quality posts from him.
I'm sure he would love a new kit to go with his new mb/cpu combo whenever he gets it.
LOL :lol:
i feel honored :D thx :)
each company is going to put forth the best it can
frankly ive found some of bigtoe, and ryans posts to be verging on advertisements
im glad you guys want to address that. im fine with people displaying their product, but let the reviewers do the reviewing ;)
The pics seem to be down...
I'm reviewing G. Skill now and hopefully will have my cpu issues sorted out soon. Seems my 3200+ 939 chip doesn't like 1T over 260mhz and my FX starts to get flakey at 1T over 270-280mhz. I can attest the G.Skill I was sent can run up to 280mhz fine with only problems being my own limitations. I feel the ram could probably go 285. this is at 2.65v and timings of 2.5 3:3:7.
Also, I do feel that posting comparisons to competitors ram is going to be frowned upon. Too much incentive to bias results, either intentionally or unintentionally.
I am hoping to review the 3700 Platinum if Ryan or OCZ would be kind enough to send me a kit. However, that is beyond my control.
I have purchased Opp's FX53 so I hope to resolve my bottleneck shortly and be back to high end benching soon.
more interesting comparison done on same MSI Neo2 s939 board at http://www.anandtech.com/memory/show...px?i=2235&p=20 and http://www.anandtech.com/memory/show...px?i=2235&p=19
regaurdless of who posted the pics and such...
the results are very interesting still.
the faster the ram got, the more OCZ fell behind.
then again, I would have rather seen EB and not EL ram against this ram.
but for the cost of G.Skill, it looks like nice stuff.
EB is no longer available as far as I know, so there isn't a great deal of point in comparing it other than curiosity. I have EB3700, 3200Plat rev 2, balistic 4000, BH5 and 3700EL Plat, all in 2x512. The 3700EB plat is the best of the bunch in my unofficial and unscientific but real world testing. The 3700EL plat's use the TCCD chips, same as Gskill, so it is a bit of luck of the pair I suppose. I would guess that if you had 4 pairs of each, you would have results all over the place.
By the way at DDR530, my EB3700plat 2x512 still run fine at 2.5-3-3-7 with no volt mods. Haven't tried higher yet.
if its both tccd then the result is odd... why does one score worse than the other at the same speed and timings then? yes, theres a difference on what pcb you use, but its almost 40mb/s! thats a bit much for a tweaked pcb afaik.
could it be that the gskill has more aggressive alpha timings programmed in the spd eeprom or something? :confused:
I believe the 3700EL rev3 uses the new hynix chips.
I am pretty darn sure that it uses the tccb. At least that is what I remember Ryan telling me. Ryan? Tony?
The 3700 we are speaking of is 3700 platinum EL (1st rev/new)Quote:
Originally Posted by CTKP
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Originally Posted by xgman
well, I just look inside of that chip..IT's TCCD!
Xgman, you're right :D
Sorry, with all due respect, I just spoke with OCZ and they are Samsung. (but I'm not going to rip my speaders off to prove it) ;)
saw your edit. ;)
Hey, great opportunity to see if they run better or worse without the spreader> Come on in the interest of fair play. :banana:
3700gold rev3 uses Hynix DTD5
3200Plat rev2 uses TCCD
3700Plat EL uses TCCD
hope this settles what we are using
hmmm kevin or tony, have you seen such a performence increasement from just the pcb ? or is it some alpha timings or other internal timings that make the difference?
kevin, you said there are two different tccd pcb types and you had a better expirience with one of them, was that just better in the meaning of a higher oc or is there a score difference between both pcbs at the same speed and timings?
ooohhh 3700el with tccd. :banana4: Gotta try some of that tccd one of these day's.
i dont think this is marketing at all... i think it'll just push both companies furthur into competition..
= better for us right?? :D
now bigtoe/ryan show us what OCZ performs like against Gskill,
and then.. Gskill try upping them up by doing some tweaks etc, and letting us know what ya did :)
and so on and so forth, with bigger and better MB/s each time
sounds like fun
Sounds good, anyone from Kingston, Corsair and Geil? :P
Wow that OCZ pc3200 Rev2 is starting to look very appealing. What about Geil pc3200 Ultra X, I have read a review saying it overclocks better and out performs OCZ.
Can you imagine if 6 months ago we could say:
Yeah, I've got these sticks that'll run 2-2-2-5 'til 220 and 2.5-3-3-7 up to 300.....
competition is good :D
yes it is, but when companies start showing off their own products comparing them to other products from the competitors it always goes wrong sooner or later...
look at all ati vs nvidia benches from ati or nvidia or amd vs intel benches from amd or intel? they always show their products as beeing waaaay superior to the competitors...
tony is right, leave the reviewing to the reviewers... :)
i said that :mad:Quote:
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It's absolutely OK and FINE for mfg/reps to PIMP their own goods (I guess) but they should certainly leave the reviews to the end users....
I'll have a pair of PQI TURBO TCCD sticks tomorrow, I'll certainly make some unbiased benchies :D
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Guys...
I have tested PQI, PMI, Gskill, Geil, OCZ and others...Im not going to say how and what the results were but I will say we do look at the competition and we constantly upgrade our products to remain the best you can buy. We also offer the best Customer Service out there with dedicated forums manned by overclockers who talk your language and who know what you want.
I stand behind the 3200 and 3700Plat, in real word benches(IE games etc) they were damn fast and I had ZERO probelems with them in all the boards I tested.
For a good unbiased look at TCCD check this review. Anandtech