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I must buy a s939 mobo and i'm very confused... i must buy a mobo compatible with OCZ Ram Booster ( i have just ordered it :D ), could you help me please?
I have choice for 2 mobo, NFI or Gigabyte.
I don't know if i can wait the release of new DFI ( i live in Italy ;) ).
Is the MSI Neo2 Platinum (s939) compatible with OCZ Ram Booster? :confused:
In your opinion is a god mobo or is better the Gigabyte GA-K8NSNXP-939?
I must overclock :toast:
Thanks & bye all . :toast:
none? :confused:
Impossible! ;) maybe? :eek:
I have the K8N Neo2, and I must say that I love it!
With my rev 1.1 Abit Av8, I could only run the mem to about 218 1:1 before it crapped out. The Av8 couldn't bench at high speeds either. My FX-53 will do 2750MHz on H20, but I was limited to 255 x 10 for benching, and that was on a 333MHz RAM divider.
With the Neo2, I can get my 3700EB up to 260 1:1...and it's perfectly stable. I have no trouble with stability, and it benches quite well. The neo2 does have its fair share of quirks though, but nothing like the Av8.
With the Neo2:
- be sure to use SATA ports 3 & 4, as they are the only 2 of 4 that the PCI lock extends to consistently.
- set your AGP freq to 67 or 68MHz, this ensures that the AGP lock is working.
- Pay little attention to the temp readings the board gives you. It reports my FX-53 as idling at 49C, whereas my trusty temp probe reads a cool 31C. It's a BIOS issue, and should be fixed when the 1.3 BIOS hits.
hmm... Anand did a big s939 roundup not too long ago and found the VIA s939 MSI board the best...
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2128
Arkangyl, that was the NF3 MSI that they found the best.
Frost_Bite, i also have the Neo2 but I never found that i needed to set my agp in bios to 67 or 68mhz to lock it. Ive run my ram/HTT 1:1 up to 290mhz and the agp locks seems to be working fine with agp always reported as 66.xx in clockgen.
I have the ddr booster as well Juspriss but I havent tried it yet in this board. I'll let you know how it goes when I do get around to it.
Ok I am now running the ddr booster at 3.2v on my Neo2. It does work fine and has allowed me to hit 300HTT 1:1 so far on my 3500 EBs.
Good! Tnx a lot m8! :toast:
You havn't a huge bandwidth, why? Bad timings? :confused:
Tnx again! ;)
Sorry I didn't specify but that was a unbuffered score.
Cheers
Those 3-5-5 timings don't look very good, but it's still quite an accomplishment to run 300 1:1.
damn Speaker4theDead you should be doing better than that look what I can do stock voltages you multi is waaay too low same thing with your ram bandwith
http://home.comcast.net/~mmolina12/fsb250.bmp
Mate my system runs fine at those same settings. My sandra score is a unbuffered score. My buffered score at 10x250 is the similar to yours.
Cheers
This is not running 1:1 but I dont have access to that image that is running 1:1 250HTT. I'll upload that tonight if you guys want me to.
Cheers
wow... I'm retarded; sorry bout that :p
MSI K8N NEO2/Crucial Ballistix PC4000
Oh and I have a Booster but havent realy gave it a try yet
http://thenakedreview.com/forums/att...achmentid=1339
What kind of voltage options are on this mobo?
How high?
OPP
Nice blue. What timings is those ballistix at?
Max vdimm is 2.85v and vcore on the 1.0bios is 1.85v. I pretty sure the 1.1 bios i'm running does not give more vcore. Cant check as i'm at work.
Cheers
Cas2.5-3-3-8-11-16-1t
Sandra reports cmd rate wrong..
Yep 2.85 max vdimm...1.85 max vcore
Good jobs! Tnx all my m8! :toast:
I have ordered this mobo yesterday! I hope to recive it next week! :banana:
Initially my MSI Neo2 had so many problems passing Prime95 even at 220 HTT. Other tests (SuperPI 1M/8M/32M, 3DMarks) were running fine though. But I think it started to get along fine with me now. :D
Here it is running at 250 HTT sync. Not a great score but it is a good start for me for now at least.
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/attachments/dHAy_adata250s.jpg
how'd you get it ironed out. I have this board waiting for me at home tonight. Would like to know what you didd to get higher htt stable
Hi,
H20 I have a similar setup.
Can you explain to me all youre bios settings you made to have it prime stable at 250 htt.
For me prime 95 makes errors in less than 10 minutes at 240 htt at 4 or 3 x with the cpu at 10*240 and giving the cpu 1.65v and 2.85 for the ram. My ram passes memtest at 240 without any problems.
Thanks
Mcklain
I'd like to know those settings also, mine is working properly...I'm just curious as to what all you changed.
I have changed so many settings now and honestly some of them don't even make sense so please don't be upset if these can't still help you:
- RAM on slot 1 and 2 instead of 3 and 4.
- RAM 1T/2T Memory Timing - set it to AUTO instead of 1T even though it turned up that AUTO setting also runs 1T
- High Performance Mode - MANUAL
- Aggressive Timing - DISABLED
LOL, it seems that MSI Neo2 is much pickier about RAM than Asus A8V. So, first of all, I made sure that my RAM can really run at the expected speed by using Memtest.
I am currently using Adata DDR566 at 2.8v vDIMM. I have tested both sticks can run Memtest 12+ hours error free at 250 HTT. At 260 HTT, MemTest reported 2 errors in 12 hrs run. I even managed to find the limit of each stick in single channel (270 and 267). I am thinking to get a replacement for the worse stick now.
I just started testing 260 HTT 2.5-3-3-6 (probably need to be relaxed a bit). StressCPU, SuperPI, 3DMark are all running fine but more tests (Prime95) to be performed still.
Hi,
Thanks H20 for the settings. I will try setting the clock cycle to auto instead of 1 t.
I have an fx-53. What about youre voltages on the cpu and also what htt multiplier are you using to have it prime stable at 250. Cause what I am having trouble is getting prime stable a 10*240 (so the processor is at stock speed).
Thanks
My setting for vCore is 1.65v for 10x250 and HT freq is 4x (rule of thumb is to keep HT Ratio x HTT <= 1000). At 250, I can run Prime95 for 12+ hrs without error.
System is now running at 10x260 sync with RAM timing of 2.5-4-3-6. Prime95 has been running for 2+ hours now. Let's see if this works out fine.
I'm having problems maintaining a stable overclock on my Neo2 at over 250HTT. I have the command rate at 1T and aggresive timing on. I'll try that out tonight and see if it will help.
Cheers
what bios are u using
Speaker4theDead?
Ok, H20
I will try those settings tomorrow. Damn I dont understand why prime makes erros in less than 10 min at 10*240. I already tried 4x htt with 1.65 volts in cpu and it didnt work either. The only thing left is to try it with the auto settings in bios fot the cycle time.
Mcklain
Bios version 1.1
Just received a pair of 512MB OCZ PC3700 EB today and has been doing some testing. Result is very disappointing. SuperPI failed starting at 222 HTT and I have tried most tweaks already.
have you tried memtesting those sticks? If it errors out at stock then rma them.
I have a pair of 512MB 3700EB ocz and I have them at:Quote:
Originally posted by H2OGun
Just received a pair of 512MB OCZ PC3700 EB today and has been doing some testing. Result is very disappointing. SuperPI failed starting at 222 HTT and I have tried most tweaks already.
3-2-2-10 1T
270
3.2v (ddr booster)
MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum
That's very nice. Can you run most tests (Prime95, SuperPI, 3DMarks, etc.) error free at that speed? And what's the max without the booster?Quote:
Originally posted by Gascogne
I have a pair of 512MB 3700EB ocz and I have them at:
3-2-2-10 1T
270
3.2v (ddr booster)
MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum
3DMarks I can run without any problems, haven't tried with the other programs.Quote:
Originally posted by H2OGun
That's very nice. Can you run most tests (Prime95, SuperPI, 3DMarks, etc.) error free at that speed? And what's the max without the booster?
And I bought these memories along with the ddr booster, so I haven't used them without it. :)
Hi,
H20, so what youre saying is that over 220 htt, youre pc is not stable??(either prime or superpi makes errors). Cause if its the case, youre not alone. At 218 I dont have any problems running prime but at 240 it makes errors quickly, but I know it's not the ram. I am thinking this board has alot of difficulties with the ram voltage. What fo you think?
Mcklain
I tried Prime95 and I get error but everything I do otherwise on my comp is stable. :confused:
But I read somewhere that Prime95 gets error if one has 1024mb in ram?
I have the same problem. I cant get my KHX PC3500 (bh-5) to run more than stock (216) it seems like my RAM is not responding to the increased voltage. if i give them 2.85v they dont wonna go further than 216 anyway. they should run 220 2-2-2-5 at 2.8 like they did it my barton system, but they cant.Its the same problem with my ABIT and my NEO2 and my Soltek. so i am starting to blame the memory controller in my fx-53 ???
Also when i try increasing my PSU +3.3 line all the way to 3.7 it does not make any change.
And 1 prob i dont understand is, that everytime i play with the rails om my PSU, i cant get ANY USB devices to work at the same time.
Also
ohh..and i cant run superpi or install any progs at 10*265, but ALL 3d marks and games i can run all night without probs
Gascone, how many point do you get in the 3DMarks? :D
I'll let you know soon as I get my X800XT PE. ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Juspriss
Gascone, how many point do you get in the 3DMarks? :D
Using 9600XT at the moment while waiting got my new card. :stick:
Ok Ok, no problem ;) .
In my opinion this mobos are very differents from standards, someone lucky, someone unlucky :( .
It is the same with all other mb's.Quote:
Originally posted by Juspriss
In my opinion this mobos are very differents from standards, someone lucky, someone unlucky :( .
Have had my fair try with some. :comp10:
I have tested 3 pairs of 2x512MB RAM. Here is the results:Quote:
Originally posted by Mcklain
Hi,
H20, so what youre saying is that over 220 htt, youre pc is not stable??(either prime or superpi makes errors). Cause if its the case, youre not alone. At 218 I dont have any problems running prime but at 240 it makes errors quickly, but I know it's not the ram. I am thinking this board has alot of difficulties with the ram voltage. What fo you think?
Mcklain
1. Corsair XL - max FSB at 2-3-3-6 is 230
2. Adata Vitesta DDR566 - max FSB at 2.5-4-3-6 is 260
3. OCZ PC3700 EB - max is 220 no matter what the timing is. Trust me, I have tried most known tweaks already such as lowering HT freq to 3x, increasing vDimm/vCore, lowering multiplier, relaxing timing. The only thing that can help is to run it at 2T. I managed to hit 230 HTT with this. But performance hit is pretty significant here.
Note that for all three, the only difference component in the system is the RAM itself. Also, Success/Failure is determined by the successful run of all SuperPI, Prime95, 3DMarks, and StressCPU tests.
Now, any advice will be greatly appreciated on why EB performs so badly on MSI Neo2 :confused:
Im using Ocz 3700EB with MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum.Quote:
Originally posted by H2OGun
Now, any advice will be greatly appreciated on why EB performs so badly on MSI Neo2 :confused:
3-2-2-10 1T 270fsb 3.2v (ddr booster)
Ocz likes lots of voltage it seems.
Hey Gascon what are all youre settings on the bios.
I am running an fx-53 with k8n neo 2 and prime doesnt last more than 3 hours without errors. I am trying to run stock settings on the cpu with 2.5-3-2-9 on the ram with 2.85 v in it. Can you help me?
I have ocz pc 3700 EB
Mcklain
Max Memclock: 200
Memory timing: 1T
Cas (Tcl): 3
Ras Trcd): 2
Min Ras (Tras): 10
Row (Trp): 2
Aggressive Timing: Disabled
Dynamic Overclocking: Disabled
Spread Spectrum: Disabled
HT Frequency: x3
Cool'n'Quiet: Disabled
Cpu Ratio: x9
Cpu Fsb Frequency: 270
Agp Frequency: 67
Cpu Voltage: 1.55
Memory Voltage: 2.8 (booster at 3.2)
Agp voltage: Default
My cpu is a 3500+ @ 3800+
Raptor on Sata port 3
I read somewhere that having 1024Mb will get error in Prime95. =/
same here with my 3700EBQuote:
Originally posted by H2OGun
I have tested 3 pairs of 2x512MB RAM. Here is the results:
1. Corsair XL - max FSB at 2-3-3-6 is 230
2. Adata Vitesta DDR566 - max FSB at 2.5-4-3-6 is 260
3. OCZ PC3700 EB - max is 220 no matter what the timing is. Trust me, I have tried most known tweaks already such as lowering HT freq to 3x, increasing vDimm/vCore, lowering multiplier, relaxing timing. The only thing that can help is to run it at 2T. I managed to hit 230 HTT with this. But performance hit is pretty significant here.
Note that for all three, the only difference component in the system is the RAM itself. Also, Success/Failure is determined by the successful run of all SuperPI, Prime95, 3DMarks, and StressCPU tests.
Now, any advice will be greatly appreciated on why EB performs so badly on MSI Neo2 :confused:
Best we can figure out on the EB @ 220fsb issue is that there is a power or available current issue on the MSI board. The EB requires lots of juice to work properly and the MSI is appatrently not up to the task in stock form. As you have read from guys that are running the OCZ DDR Booster in their boards, they have no issues at all.
The EB series was designed before this board came out and works just fine in nearly all boards. I suggest you add a DDR Booster and enjoy killer performance. This may be the only solution sabe for modding the board.
Thanks