19288 mark is mine, that scores no cheat real scores.
ps1, ps2 cheat used 24000Point.
ps1, ps2 cheat 510/1260 run 21900 scores.
why my score deleted?
i don't understand.
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19288 mark is mine, that scores no cheat real scores.
ps1, ps2 cheat used 24000Point.
ps1, ps2 cheat 510/1260 run 21900 scores.
why my score deleted?
i don't understand.
I wish return my scores compare.
This is my 510/1260 cheat scores.
http://www.lo-mac.net/bbs/data/vga/cheet.JPG
Sticky,
I a reasonable claim my scores compare deleted.
I wish return my scores compare plz.
this is my deleted compare real scores.
http://www.titiworld.com/Blueremy/19288_6085.JPG
Well.. what cooling what voltage for 597/1291?
Your GT2 and 3 scores don't look in line with the rest of the scores.
you admit cheating but now want some of your scores back claiming they were not cheated? :stick:
sorry, but why should we believe you?
if its really not cheated congrats! :toast: amazing scores indeed, BUT they dont look real and you have no proof that they are real, all we have is your word and you just admitted you have uploaded cheat scores...
The disproportional GT scores seem to be implying that PS nulling was enabled and ran with o/ced card which throttled after GT2.
it said on ur description u had a 6800u water cooled, it seemed abviously to me that a 6800u WC couldnt get 2000 more points than a -98º cascade cooled 6800u from Lardarse...Quote:
Originally posted by blueremy
Hi Blaster,
19288 mark is mine, that scores no cheat real scores.
ps1, ps2 cheat used 24000Point.
ps1, ps2 cheat 510/1260 run 21900 scores.
why my score deleted?
i don't understand.
... perhaps u can explain then how u can get those extra 2000 points then :)
i split the threads since the other thread is to report and discuss questionable and fake 2k1 and 2k3 entries only.
I got around 7K increase for with nulling. 19k + 7k = 26k. Can you do a nulled run at 597/1291 then? That should give 26K
Your nature is 99fps while my 17K run was 100fps. Your GT1 with nulling is only 353 while mine is 500+ with nulling.
http://www.vr-zone.com.sg/Shamino/3dmscores/23k1.JPG
That GT1 score tells a lot about your system strength.
lardarse just admitted cheating in a 3d run? nice one... *crosses lardarse off of trustful compare links...
doesnt matter if your score was legit or not, you still cheated..
Right...Quote:
Originally posted by AcEmAsTr
lardarse just admitted cheating in a 3d run? nice one... *crosses lardarse off of trustful compare links...
doesnt matter if your score was legit or not, you still cheated..
I posted this a while back when the PS nulling weren't really known and raised it an issue.
Who cares if I'm on your list or not anyways.
cheating vs testing is a big difference.Quote:
Originally posted by AcEmAsTr
lardarse just admitted cheating in a 3d run? nice one... *crosses lardarse off of trustful compare links..
doesnt matter if your score was legit or not, you still cheated..
good job, keep testing and showing the truth LardArse
WTF? Are you kidding me? :bs:Quote:
Originally posted by AcEmAsTr
lardarse just admitted cheating in a 3d run? nice one... *crosses lardarse off of trustful compare links...
doesnt matter if your score was legit or not, you still cheated..
I suspect you may want to rethink this comment :confused:Quote:
Originally posted by AcEmAsTr
lardarse just admitted cheating in a 3d run? nice one... *crosses lardarse off of trustful compare links...
doesnt matter if your score was legit or not, you still cheated..
I agree that cheating vs. testing is a big difference.
I really hope that "doesnt matter if your score was legit or not, you still cheated.. " Was ment blueremy and not for landarse.
Else i dont know what to think about Ace, that i earlier thought was a Mr.niceguy_2k4 :bounce:
i hope ace was just joking and didnt make it clear?
thx for helping to clear the wuss about blueremies score up shamino!
so blueremy, please post a nulled 3d run.
I think Ace was refering to the comment made earlier about blueremey cheating before and therefore cheating know and was not trying to insult LardArse. It just didn't come out well.
As far as LardArse is concerned I can't think of anything that showed more integrety then to pull a legitimate #1 score because of the controversy surrounding this issue
where the other thread? :stick:Quote:
Originally posted by saaya
i split the threads since the other thread is to report and discuss questionable and fake 2k1 and 2k3 entries only.
haha this thread is funny.. The guy really cant be serious? Then less he actually dont consider null ps a cheat..
im not kidding at all, lardarse used a cheat, end of story... 'testing' a cheat means you used a cheat, means you cheated, means you can do it again, u may have a fast rig, but you've lowered yourself by 'testing' a cheat, low.....
I can't believe what I'm reading here. LardArse is probably one of the most honest people in the benchmarking community, and now he's being villified by someone who seems more interested in semantic games. How pathetic.
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Originally posted by AcEmAsTr
im not kidding at all, lardarse used a cheat, end of story... 'testing' a cheat means you used a cheat, means you cheated, means you can do it again, u may have a fast rig, but you've lowered yourself by 'testing' a cheat, low.....
I really cant believe I am seeing this.. So you´re saying that Lardarse used a example to figure the cheat out and therefore he´s a cheater..
If its about the words well yes then he is a cheater.. But then stepping on bugs dont make you a killer..
this thread was split from the "report psnull and other cheat orb entries here" thread.
ace, its not like in games. many people in games claim they just used a cheat to "test" it and see how it works.
this is different. the psnull cheats are integrated into the drivers!
i think its very good from lardarse to have tried the cheat and see how it performs , if he wouldnt we still wouldnt be sure if blueremy's score was legit or not.
its pretty obvious a cheated score as he didnt even bother to reply :rolleyes:
btw, this is REALLY dirty move by nvidia!
integrating a cheat into the drivers is sooooo low. THEY are the ones we should be mad at, not the noobs that use them!
and dont tell me nvidia made this option to give users more advanced controll over pixel shaders. thats complete BS! if thats what they would have wanted they would have told FM about it and FM would have made a patch, maybe even with the help of nvidia, to detect psnull cheats and ban and block them from the orb.
its nvidia that went low, lower ,REAL LOW!!!
Carefull Acemaster, Lardarse brought the PS problem to our attention first. He is not a cheater and has our admiration and respect.
Call him a cheater again and you will be on a three day vacation to think about it.
wheres my gun, someone called my friend a cheater, means he called me a cheater, wheres my gun :dammit: :frag: :upset: :grr:
****shakes head****
wow how can someone not see a difference between testing a cheat and exposing it as a cheat vs being a cheat.
and I thought the dumbing down of america was bad enough, sounds like the UK is having this problem too. (no offense to the smart people in europe ;) )
wee calm down guys
shamino himself said he doesnt really give a XXXX and he knows that nobody else considers him a cheater.
and ace is prolly just p!ssed because it reminded him of people using cheats "just to try them" in games.
ace, just apologize and its all good :)
lets not make a big deal out fo this please :buddies:
He used a cheat, ban me if you wish, i just despise anyone who even attempts one, not saying hes a cheater, i havent ever said hes a cheater, just he used one.
i seem to be getting flamed quite nicely here, cheats are :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:, simple as.
dont get involved with them and theres no problem is how i see it.
Ace you seem to be missing the point that lard was prooving.
so its still wrong if someone does a nulled run so he can examine it and try to compare it to others so that other nulled scores can be detected???????Quote:
Originally posted by AcEmAsTr
He used a cheat, ban me if you wish, i just despise anyone who even attempts one, not saying hes a cheater, i havent ever said hes a cheater, just he used one.
i seem to be getting flamed quite nicely here, cheats are :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:, simple as.
dont get involved with them and theres no problem is how i see it.
:stick::stick::stick::stick:
perhaps, but a world renowned 3dmark'er shouldn't be getting mixed up with cheats, at all, may hurt your rep lard, i mean no disrespect.
Quote:
Originally posted by Çhrist0ph
so its still wrong if someone does a nulled run so he can examine it and try to compare it to others so that other nulled scores can be detected???????
:stick::stick::stick::stick:
this should be down to 3dmark, they should be strictly checking and doing everything they can to do so, since pro users pay for it
Now you're suffering from amnesia. These were your own words:Quote:
Originally posted by AcEmAsTr
He used a cheat, ban me if you wish, i just despise anyone who even attempts one, not saying hes a cheater, i havent ever said hes a cheater, just he used one.
"'testing' a cheat means you used a cheat, means you cheated"
Quote:
Originally posted by sierra_bound
Now you're suffering from amnesia. These were your own words:
"'testing' a cheat means you used a cheat, means you cheated"
he used a cheat... so hes a cheater, but i'm certainly not saying he uses it in his serious bench runs as we all know he doesnt.
You must really want that vacation.... :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by AcEmAsTr
he used a cheat... so hes a cheater
Quote:
Originally posted by AcEmAsTr
he used a cheat... so hes a cheater, but i'm certainly not saying he uses it in his serious bench runs as we all know he doesnt.
We all know he tested out the null option to notifiy futuremark of this problem so they can remedy this. His scores are all legit. also it was nice seeing you, but I guess your about to be banned now, sorry :(
Now lets get back to Blueremy,
I blow you away in machine speed and card clocks, your numbers in GT2 and GT3 are way too high.
FUGGER your 03 link isn't workin.
neither is yours....
:D fixed.
heh, working on new score now =)
beep beep, passing with a Prescott!
oh no ! :p:Quote:
Originally posted by FUGGER
heh, working on new score now =)
beep beep, passing with a Prescott!
i thought u were distracted :banana: :banana:
.... well at least i gotcha for a few hours :toast:
/me shakes head violently at the content of this thread..
To even question LardArse's motives or integrity on this matter :stick: :stick: :stick:
Quote:
lardarse just admitted cheating in a 3d run? nice one... *crosses lardarse off of trustful compare links...
doesnt matter if your score was legit or not, you still cheated..
Quote:
im not kidding at all, lardarse used a cheat, end of story... 'testing' a cheat means you used a cheat, means you cheated, means you can do it again, u may have a fast rig, but you've lowered yourself by 'testing' a cheat, low....
Quote:
He used a cheat, ban me if you wish, i just despise anyone who even attempts one, not saying hes a cheater, i havent ever said hes a cheater, just he used one.
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he used a cheat... so hes a cheater, but i'm certainly not saying he uses it in his serious bench runs as we all know he doesnt.
Ace; your flopping around more than John Kerry...
once and for all; is Lardarse a cheater or not?
I'm saying NO just to be clear on this :)
you said;
no, no, not really, kinda-sorta-not...
we're listening....
My head hurts from all these circles. I didn't even know of a null? W/e anywase... that'd be like saying using windows 2000 on an amd system is cheating. :confused:
Nah... this is some option that alleviates work for the card. Disregarding shader programs or something of the like. Anyways, I dont think Lardarse even put any up on the orb in his testing.Quote:
Originally posted by WesM63
My head hurts from all these circles. I didn't even know of a null? W/e anywase... that'd be like saying using windows 2000 on an amd system is cheating. :confused:
Also, it's a necessary evil to try for a bencher because basically this is incorrect....
Futuremark has shown they can't exactly handle this on their own. If statements like this were true, I would also still be waiting for Abit to enable a 2T option so my friend could use his gig of ram on the NF7-S, the socket A board I recommended him. Often hardware enthusiasts are left to do what others have seemingly disregarded or seemed to have not found the budget or non-tart to do so.Quote:
Originally posted by AcEmAsTr
this should be down to 3dmark, they should be strictly checking and doing everything they can to do so, since pro users pay for it
lol!Quote:
Originally posted by Arkangyl
Ace; your flopping around more than John Kerry...
Anyway...
this is dumb! lets just leave the poor dude, he's probably not even 10 years old. And or is just looking for attention, he knows he will never be as recognised as Lardarse is.
He's not ten years old, he seems to have lightened his stance against lardarse a bit.... and yeah I agree lets let him be... without any cheapshots attached.
why isnt lardarse alowed to even test the PS null whatevers as long he acknowledges like 99% of us that they are cheats and shouldnt be used for legit scores
if i knew about a bug i would test it out
Testing a cheat; makes you a cheater:
In Counter-Strike, yes
In benching, no
Blueremy's similar gt2 score is 30% higher than Lard Arse's for similar card clocks so there is obviously something up with it, so either it is
a bug
a driver issue
a cheat.
A long time ago I mentioned an issue with Walldow of Overclockers.com benching team where his GT2 was massively inflated compared to the rest of the games. Walldow is definitely not a cheat and he used the same drivers as everyone else, but the more he overclocked his card the more his GT2 got out of alignment with the other games. If Blueremy is not cheating then maybe something similar is happenning here ?
Certainly though it is not a valid score and should not be up there.
In regards to this Acemaster / LardArse thing, Lardarse was one of the first to get a 6800 and the first to use the drivers and see the new options in display panel. Using a new option to see what it does is not a cheat, continuing to use it when it does what it does, is :) .
At that stage it was not a cheat it was an option. When it was seen what the option did then that was the point when you had to make the mental decision what to do about it and it is that mental decision is when to cheat or not to cheat starts. Lardarse decided not to use it.
Regards
Andy
Quote:
Originally posted by Crankster
Testing a cheat; makes you a cheater:
In Counter-Strike, yes
In benching, no
Testing a cheat in your own game with bots is not cheating.
To be a cheater, one must use the cheats in a competition with others.
AcE: You really should rethink the whole thing. Lardarse is only trying to help, and is telling everyone his finds/results.
Theres a saying; "Dont bite the hand that feeds you" .. not entirely correct, but is somewhere down the same street. He is just trying to bust the low-life s**theads, and that is much aprichiated amongst the ppl here.
My system platform changed AMD64.
test again result.
Cooling Beer refrigerator.
AMD 64 3200+ 270 X 10 2704Mhz
Abit KV8Pro Bios 1.6 LDT x 4
Hynix PC4400 ES 1G Kit 270 3-8-4-4
6800Ultra ES 591/1308
PCPower & Coolings 510ATX PFC DLX
see this picture.
don't cheat.
http://www.titiworld.com/Blueremy/18656.JPG
http://www.titiworld.com/Blueremy/18656-1.JPG
19288 result system
Cooling Beer refrigerator. water temp 0, air temp 12
6800Ultra 597/1291
3.2@4230Mhz 264 x 16
Corsair XMS3500C2PT 512 x 2 264Mhz 1:1 2-3-3-7 3.2V
IC7-MAX3 Bios 1.6
PCPower & Coolings 510ATX PFC DLX
As per suggested since you've already tried ps nulling why not null ps and run 597/1300 and take a 26K score?
i will try ps cheat run.
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Originally posted by blueremy
19288 result system
Cooling Beer refrigerator. water temp 0, air temp 12
6800Ultra 597/1291
3.2@4230Mhz 264 x 16
Corsair XMS3500C2PT 512 x 2 264Mhz 1:1 2-3-3-7 3.2V
IC7-MAX3 Bios 1.6
PCPower & Coolings 510ATX PFC DLX
OMFG! Have you even looked at your details??? Youve got 175 FPS in GT2 ... Dont you get it? IS A ***** BUG!! (or cheat)
If its something you do to get that score or not, I dont care, because its not a valid score.
A guy on a norwegian forum has got the same problem. His GT2 is WAY to high. He is a newbie, and hasn´t even OC´ed the card. Still, he understands that its a bug, and he dont claim to have a valid score.
Again, YOUR SCORE IS NOT VALID.
EDITED-Dont try a censor bypass again.
ps null cheat score
http://www.titiworld.com/Blueremy/24292.JPG
What driver version are you running ?
Regards
Andy
so what would be a valad non bugged score for him? 17k? what could be inflating his GT2 score?
lol, can someone explain me the score, if 18xxx is without a cheat and 24xxx is with. 18xxx is impossible with an A64@2.7Ghz, if u would have like 3.7Ghz I would start believing it a bit but man it's impossible! try 2 run 3DMark on 2k , u r gonna have 19xxx without a bug lol.
Blueremy screenshots dont prove anything in that matter. You could have changed the settings after a run. I DONT say you did/do but just what could be a thought among some of us.....I think. Are you not running at lower Mhz at core/mem than Shamino, but still getting better score = dont seem right !?
You could make a film by a webcam to prove it haha...just a joke :)
I dont care if you believe or not. Just because I am the only person who made that score does not mean I am a chaeter. Records are there to be broke. And I did it fare and squre. 3Dmark03 can not have result of 18000 are you saying? What kind of blind faith is that?
Anyway, if anyone who is still interested in my score and want to discuss about this, let me know.
But if you are just going to acuse me of something that I didnt do, just pass this thread and mind your own business
Dude they are really trying to help you. Everyone is saying they are not accusing you of cheating, they are trying to help you figure out why your scores are off.
hes saying he tweaked for those scores and earned it fair and square
Could this be a problem with directx 9.0C? because it seems that blueremy is the only one using it who is using itat the top of the first page? Is 9.0C still in beta? There may be a problem with the 3d mark GT 2/3 tests being inflated because of it. What direct x version did the other benchmarkers with high GT 2/3 use? I know it boosts alots of peoples scores who used it but if it is 9.0C that is effecting it it is obviously a fault. Maybe someone else could give it a try with a 6800, because these cards was not as widely available as they are now when 9.0C was released in beta and blueremy is the first person who I have seen use it with a 6800.
EDIT: also what tweaks did you use for that score blueremy? (the one you say is legitiamte)?
In you futuremark desription after your 6800 you say it is an ES, could this make some difference?
Thanks
JWB
Bugged score / run not a cheat I'd say.
There is no tweak that pushes the GT2 and GT3 to 170+ and 130FPS but still keeps GT1 and GT4 at only 360 and 89fps. A normal score just doesnt' look like that. sorry.
Tried reinstalling everything and rerunning it? What kind of score do you get at default clocks? Could memory/GPU OC be too high and artifacting is causing the abnormal result? Whatever it is its causing your system to produce bugged 3dmark03 results. Its not the first rig we have seen. Wierd things happen every now and then :D
I've seen a stock 9800pro pull 38k default :D
The testing score I got was actually a little bit lower, since my testbed had a lag on the Nature test on the beggining. You probably know that its easy to get 100 points of by that slow start.
you probably know that its easy to get 100frams loss if it lags on the beggining, in my case I'm assuming at least 400fps
well, I never heard of lag in beggining loosing 100fps LOL
as it seems u dont seem interested in knowing why ur GT2 and GT3 scores look bugged for everybody else
so probably u know what u are doing...
unless u provide a valid explanation for stupid results on GT2 and GT3 we will always consider that a bugged score
w00t, where can I get a card like that? I wouldn't need a XT PE then. :D ;)Quote:
Originally posted by macci
I've seen a stock 9800pro pull 38k default :D
Wow I just got a chance to actually look at his score and dude how can you not think its bugged lol. Im not trying to be a :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: but its obvious really obvious.
Try what macci said, reinstall everything and rerun.
EDIT Wow cant even say :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:?:stick:
OK, i can do exactly the same thing (make my GT2 score ridiculously high and upload but not be able to publish). I tested using the old "make 1 second = 4 seconds" trick on GT2 only. You could obvioulsy do it less drastically to get whatever result you want. Anyway, here's what it looks like:
http://img56.exs.cx/img56/1060/timecheat.jpg
wow thats another way people cheat other than using the null cheat! could also explain most of the bugged 2001/2003 scores!
Its nothing new, Everything but the PS Null has been around for quite a while, there are a few that haven't been mentioned, wireframe, gear, and a few more obscure, was even a program that edited the save before uploads.Quote:
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
wow thats another way people cheat other than using the null cheat! could also explain most of the bugged 2001/2003 scores!
Ha, I remember seein' the wireframe one. Scary fast. ;) It's pretty obvious from my scores, I've never felt the need to cheat. Heck, I even run ALL the tests, not just CPU. :p: ;)
I see there is anorther score up at the top from 25th August now.
This reminds me of the guy a while ago who had bugged scores and would not admit it, said he had some technique where the first run was ultra cold or some such.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ghlight=bugged
It ended up with him putting anti XS slogans in hus details field, as if we were out to get him. All we were doing was pointing out the obvious, like in this case. Some bugs are hard to spot and in the past a good score has been pointed out to be slightly bugged and people have removed them with good grace. This is not a slight bug though.
This all boils down the fact that if you cannot police yourself then someone else has to police you for yourself, which is a lot less respectable.
There is something more important than being the top of the ORB and that is having the respect from like minded people who know what you have gone through for what you have acceved, no matter how big a score.
Regards
Andy
you couldnt have said it better! I do wish those bugged 2001 scores get removed soon though, seems like all the attention is on 2003 now! also check my thread, I posted a response to your post
GF4TI: Thats because its a little harder to find bugged 2001 scores... You can get same score with a TI4200 as with a 9800pro...
But did anybody else notice that all of a sudden BlueRemmy began to be able to write english correctly???
On the first 2 pages it was jiberish... But the last 2 its really good... Hehe... What the hell is up with that???
Dude face it... That score is a bugged 1...
Oh yeah and the thing about Nvidia's PS null why the hell did they do that???
dont think it was meant to be used for cheating in benchmarks, but more for developer purposes to test code efficiencyQuote:
Originally posted by Mini
Oh yeah and the thing about Nvidia's PS null why the hell did they do that???
How does the 1 second - 4 second work? Do any of these actually run the tests with proper graphics? Any scores above 20k cannot be published I think, else you would have seen lots of them up already
reverse speed-hack. The 3dm-FPS counter will be able to fit more frames in one "second" as you slow down the system clock.Quote:
Originally posted by LardArse
How does the 1 second - 4 second work? Do any of these actually run the tests with proper graphics? Any scores above 20k cannot be published I think, else you would have seen lots of them up already
There he goes!
Another 18K publish from Blueremy Korea OC! :D
http://www.vr-zone.com.sg/Shamino/3dmscores/blue.JPG
He stoped replying to this thread as soon as he published that score
Maybe hes happy now LOL
jesus i wanna punch him, what a ********... :mad:
Edit: Karnivore
Lets make a post on Furturemark forums.Quote:
Originally posted by r3b0rN
jesus i wanna punch him, what a ********... :mad:
Topic: Cheater on top spot
I consider it cheating, cause he has been told by many people that his score is bugged. Publishing a score when you know its a bug IS cheating. (unless of course you put it in details for the FM-staff to check out and fix. But then you have to remove it after a day or so.)
I say blueremy is a CHEATER!
i think they should just suspend his account or something, as he knows its cheating and hes uploaded another 1.
Yup, he should remove it and give me #17:DQuote:
Originally posted by LardArse
There he goes!
Another 18K publish from Blueremy Korea OC! :D
http://www.vr-zone.com.sg/Shamino/3dmscores/blue.JPG
That is untill he puts up a legit score that im sure would be higher than 14.8k:(
I believe the correct term is "********". :banana: :DQuote:
Originally posted by r3b0rN
jesus i wanna punch him ******... :mad:
Edit: Karnivore
If i ever go to korea to hunt teh asian chicks and game as a profession i will hug him.
EDITED
um.....
driver reinstall forceware 66.00 run.
I think driver's bug. but I'm not a cheater.
http://www.titiworld.com/Blueremy/17241.JPG
macci told you that about 50 posts ago....
Your GT2 score still doesn't look right. And with those video card clocks, you should be getting a much higher score in GT1.
What that it's a driver bug or he's not a cheater?
Ok your not a cheater, but you have to admit you have a bug, You are not getting 1000 more than everyone else because you have better skillz than the rest. No one ever Is 1000 more than the rest of the pack, Unless they are the only one with the new video card that no one else has.Quote:
um.....
driver reinstall forceware 66.00 run.
I think driver's bug. but I'm not a cheater
You should quit trying to say the score is correct and defending it. The only way you can prove or see if it's correct is Reformat the whole drive, Put certified drivers on and no "cheat software" on you computer even if it is for testing. Then Run again.
Your cheating yourself and all of us. If i was going to cheat I would put myself in the top 10 and work my way up slowly so the cheating is believeable. No. coming out of no where with the top score with an unknown name!!!
2nd reason i wouldnt cheat is. Everyone know's my name. And i will keep this name "tedinde" forever on here I sell something people know its good as gold on them getting it based on my name. IF i put a score up i wouldnt risk my good name by getting caught cheating!!
Just redo you windows and drivers and test again like i said. You know your not truely pulling 18.5k+, your just dragging you name through the mud!!!
If your on a 3dmark team anywhere or On this one. People with 1/2 that 3dmark 2003 get just the same respect from everyone on here as the top dogs. Go an read through the 3dmark Team thread in here.
You need to renounce your scores as bugged, and unpublish them, and you will get some credibility back. Fool us once it's ok, but dont take us for fools.
Later
Ted
quoted for truthQuote:
Originally posted by Tedinde
2nd reason i wouldnt cheat is. Everyone know's my name. And i will keep this name "tedinde" forever on here I sell something people know its good as gold on them getting it based on my name. IF i put a score up i wouldnt risk my good name by getting caught cheating!!
we told you your score wasnt legit, you defended it as legit and now you say its bugged, this kills all your creditability. unpublish that bugged and all bugged scores and show us what you really can do
for once I actually agree with ti4200 :)