Anyone made or know of a Util to edit the 6800 bios's. I'd imagine it would be a pretty simple VB program now that the locations of the main values are known.
Anyone?
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Anyone made or know of a Util to edit the 6800 bios's. I'd imagine it would be a pretty simple VB program now that the locations of the main values are known.
Anyone?
I will release such a tool soon. :)
Ah thought you might ;)Quote:
Originally posted by xtremetheme
I will release such a tool soon. :)
You managed to find things like fan speed, mem timings etc?
Woow that is very good news :-)Quote:
Originally posted by xtremetheme
I will release such a tool soon. :)
Been looking for that as well!
I have no idea about fan speed, my card doesnt even have a fan anymore lol.Quote:
Originally posted by Noxis
You managed to find things like fan speed, mem timings etc?
I added editing memory timings but only for 5700/5900 class, i dont have a 6800 so i cant test if the values i look at are right.
Well here it is, a easy to use BIOS editor for new gen nvidia cards!
http://home.graffiti.net/omniextreme/oee10.zip
:)
Supports editing Speed and Voltage settings on 6800/U, 5900/U/XT, 5950U, 5700/U. Timings on 5900/U/XT, 5950U, 5700/U.
Better use an fresh unmodded BIOS, a previous modded BIOS may not have correct voltage display.
Maybe not all BIOS are read correctly so dont cry plz. ;) But thats also written in the program. Tell me what doesnt work and your BIOS and i can look if i can fix it.
Esp. would be nice if some 5700 owner could give feedback, it looks like some 5700Us can even have up to 1.5V
I hope that will make ppl happy who dont like hexeditors and save some time :)
Will it be okay if I host it on my site?Quote:
Originally posted by xtremetheme
I have no idea about fan speed, my card doesnt even have a fan anymore lol.
I added editing memory timings but only for 5700/5900 class, i dont have a 6800 so i cant test if the values i look at are right.
Well here it is, a easy to use BIOS editor for new gen nvidia cards!
http://home.graffiti.net/omniextreme/oee10.zip
:)
Supports editing Speed and Voltage settings on 6800/U, 5900/U/XT, 5950U, 5700/U. Timings on 5900/U/XT, 5950U, 5700/U.
Better use an fresh unmodded BIOS, a previous modded BIOS may not have correct voltage display.
Maybe not all BIOS are read correctly so dont cry plz. ;) But thats also written in the program. Tell me what doesnt work and your BIOS and i can look if i can fix it.
Esp. would be nice if some 5700 owner could give feedback, it looks like some 5700Us can even have up to 1.5V
I hope that will make ppl happy who dont like hexeditors and save some time :)
http://www.mvktech.net
Thanks,
Mavke
Is it possible to edit 2D speeds in bios?
Sure you can. :) But lets wait untill tommorrow maybe someone finds a heavy bug and posts it.Quote:
Originally posted by Mavke
Will it be okay if I host it on my site?
http://www.mvktech.net
Thanks,
Mavke
5700 and 5900 yes, 6800 i dont know are there cards which use a 2d speed?Quote:
Originally posted by Goldlocke
Is it possible to edit 2D speeds in bios?
All i read from ppl is that the 6800 have the same speed in 2d and 3d.
uhm,...I mean the "throtteling speed". Where is the throtteling speed set? In the bios I assume.
Would it be possible to stop the downthrotteling by setting this speed to the same as 3D speed?
I tested your editor. I think it doesnt show the voltages of modded bioses accurately. It only shows 1.4V max. in bioses which set 3D voltage to multimeter-approved 1.5V.
Throttling speed is labled 2D/3D in my editor. And 6800s use their stock speed as throttling from what i heard.Quote:
Originally posted by Goldlocke
uhm,...I mean the "throtteling speed". Where is the throtteling speed set? In the bios I assume.
Would it be possible to stop the downthrotteling by setting this speed to the same as 3D speed?
Yeah thats what i wrote above. ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Goldlocke
I tested your editor. I think it doesnt show the voltages of modded bioses accurately. It only shows 1.4V max. in bioses which set 3D voltage to multimeter-approved 1.5V.
Ah. OK, but on my GT I am not able to change the 2D/3D clockrate setting. Only the 3D. :(Quote:
Originally posted by xtremetheme
Throttling speed is labled 2D/3D in my editor. And 6800s use their stock speed as throttling from what i heard.
With the stock speed i mean the 3D setting. The value you enter there should be the one your card throttles back to.Quote:
Originally posted by Goldlocke
Ah. OK, but on my GT I am not able to change the 2D/3D clockrate setting. Only the 3D. :(
Great stuff xtremetheme, this will be a very popular tool.
Thanks for sharing it :).
EDIT:
There appears to be a bug in the program for 6800s, the 3D speed shown is actually the 2D speed.
'Detonator' has reported it on OcUK and I've noticed it too.
My BIOS shows up as 400/550 in the editor, but that's my 2D speed, my core is actually at 425 3D default.Quote:
Posted by Detonator
There is a bug in this tool,actualy if I do a 450/1250 bios, editing a 425/1200 bios and flashing the card ,after the bot the coolbit show 450/1200 2D so far is ok , but on D3 still 425/1200 seem like dont take any effect on D3.....Some one should tell xtremetheme about this bug.. I dont have any account on Exstrem forum and I cant contact him....
I love it..! Thx
Ah thx for reporting. Can you send me your BIOS and tell me what card the other guy has?Quote:
Originally posted by Sir Random
My BIOS shows up as 400/550 in the editor, but that's my 2D speed, my core is actually at 425 3D default.
Okay I have done that :-)Quote:
Originally posted by xtremetheme
Sure you can. :) But lets wait untill tommorrow maybe someone finds a heavy bug and posts it.
OmniExtremeEdit FX v1.0 - At mvktech.net
Let me know when new version come out :-)
And then I will add them as well. If you want to host em direct on my site let me know as it can be arranged as well.
Here's my Club3D Ultra BIOS:Quote:
Originally posted by xtremetheme
Ah thx for reporting. Can you send me your BIOS and tell me what card the other guy has?
http://www.handspun.utvinternet.com/daniel/CLUB3D.ROM
(425/1.1 3D - 400/1.1 2D)
I don't know what card 'detonator' has :(
EDIT:\
Noxis' modded (+0.1v) BIOS shows as 1.4v with the tool, but Noxis says he tested it with a multimeter and it is definitely 1.5v.?
Yep definitly 1.5v (well 1.52v as it floats up) my card does 470mhz core with it, so unless its some kind of super GPU i got in there...Quote:
Originally posted by Sir Random
Here's my Club3D Ultra BIOS:
http://www.handspun.utvinternet.com/daniel/CLUB3D.ROM
(425/1.1 3D - 400/1.1 2D)
I don't know what card 'detonator' has :(
EDIT:\
Noxis' modded (+0.1v) BIOS shows as 1.4v with the tool, but Noxis says he tested it with a multimeter and it is definitely 1.5v.?
ThanksQuote:
Originally posted by Sir Random
Here's my Club3D Ultra BIOS:
http://www.handspun.utvinternet.com/daniel/CLUB3D.ROM
(425/1.1 3D - 400/1.1 2D)
I don't know what card 'detonator' has :(
EDIT:\
Noxis' modded (+0.1v) BIOS shows as 1.4v with the tool, but Noxis says he tested it with a multimeter and it is definitely 1.5v.?
Noxis, could you please make a 425/1.2 1.5v BIOS?Quote:
Originally posted by Noxis
Yep definitly 1.5v (well 1.52v as it floats up) my card does 470mhz core with it, so unless its some kind of super GPU i got in there...
3DMk03 froze in Nature at 450 core (@ 80c+), so I don't want to try the 450/1.2 1.5v BIOS until I've checked temps at 425 with 1.5v.
xtremetheme I am sure is going to shake the bugs pretty quickly, best to wait for that :)Quote:
Originally posted by Sir Random
Noxis, could you please make a 425/1.2 1.5v BIOS?
3DMk03 froze in Nature at 450 core (@ 80c+), so I don't want to try the 450/1.2 1.5v BIOS until I've checked temps at 425 with 1.5v.
Xtremetheme, the stock 6800GT bios's show up with 1.4v under the 3d settings, not 1.3 like stock.
I uploaded the stock BFG6800GT rom in case you didn't have it.
Thx, but like i said previously modded BIOSes may not show correct voltage. Use a fresh BIOS.Quote:
Originally posted by Sir Random
Here's my Club3D Ultra BIOS:
http://www.handspun.utvinternet.com/daniel/CLUB3D.ROM
(425/1.1 3D - 400/1.1 2D)
I don't know what card 'detonator' has :(
EDIT:\
Noxis' modded (+0.1v) BIOS shows as 1.4v with the tool, but Noxis says he tested it with a multimeter and it is definitely 1.5v.?
That is correct because the BIOS says the card will have 1.4v in 3D.Quote:
Originally posted by Zombie10k
Xtremetheme, the stock 6800GT bios's show up with 1.4v under the 3d settings, not 1.3 like stock.
I uploaded the stock BFG6800GT rom in case you didn't have it.
1.3V is for the throttling.
Have you measured the values using a multimeter?
Ok, but what about setting the 3D speeds?Quote:
Originally posted by xtremetheme
Thx, but like i said previously modded BIOSes may not show correct voltage. Use a fresh BIOS.
New version should fix the 3D Speeds for 6800Us.Quote:
Originally posted by Sir Random
Ok, but what about setting the 3D speeds?
But my webspace now exceeded traffic it seems (dang thats only a 200kb download, how many people got there lol), so you have to wait a bit i hope mavke answers me soon.
If you need webspace, I'll host it for you.
Just email it to me at random@eircom.net
Thx thats very nice. I sended the file now to sir random.
In Version 1.1 6800U should have correct speed setting, all 6800 card should have 2D speed shown, (although i dont know if all cards use them), and i renamed the 2D/3D to Throttle, as it did confuse ppl :)
Here it is:
OmniExtremeEdit FX1.1.rar
Thanks again extremetheme, gonna try it out now :)
Thanks alot, you are a GOD.
I have a BFG6800U water block version with default clock speed of 470 and could not get it to run on my Asus A8V MB. I even RMA'd the card to BFG and new one would only run 3D at 440.
It is not a power supply problem, I bought a $200 PC Power and Cooling 510W power supply. I have enclosed the orginal BFG bios.
And here is a mirror :
OmniExtremeEdit FX v1.1 - At mvktech.net
Regards,
Mavke
I used the editor to increase the voltage to 1.5 on my 6800. Oddly enough, it didn't improve overclocks any. Temperatures remain in the 60s most of the time. Frustrating, I can get 380 on the core, but I can't even get 750 on my memory completely artifact-free. A lot of people are getting 800. :(
EDIT: Nevermind, it does get into the 70s.
I get a lot of people saying that on their Original 6800 GT the Tool is reporting 1.4V on 3D GPU. While they are expecting 1.3V...Quote:
Originally posted by xtremetheme
Thx thats very nice. I sended the file now to sir random.
In Version 1.1 6800U should have correct speed setting, all 6800 card should have 2D speed shown, (although i dont know if all cards use them), and i renamed the 2D/3D to Throttle, as it did confuse ppl :)
Can this be looked into?
Finaly I can post:)3 days to activate my account...
Ok I edited a bios from a fresh XFX 6800ULTRA 425/1200@450/1200 V1.5 3D
to test it,but I got ramdom frezzes...on 3DMarck 2003...
So I flashed back to Noxis's bios 450/1200 and everything work great again....
Ok now Coolbit show the right frequenzy, but I think the voltage dident take any effect ,stilll 1.4on my guess ,that why I got frezz.
Thx for reporting ppl.Quote:
Originally posted by Mavke
I get a lot of people saying that on their Original 6800 GT the Tool is reporting 1.4V on 3D GPU. While they are expecting 1.3V...
Can this be looked into?
The thing with the 6800GT is strange.
The Editor shows what the BIOS says and on every 6800GT BIOS i have seen it says 3 modes with default values 1.4V , 1.3V and 1.1V.
First of all why do people expect 1.3V to be the standard of 6800GT?
Can someone with a unmodded BIOS and a GT measure what V it gets when running 3D ?
Can 6800GT people overclock higher if the change the 3D Vs ?
Can they overclock higher if they only change the Thrtl Vs?
A guess could be that the 6800GT only uses 2 modes, the 2D and the mode labled as "Thrtl." in my editor is their 3D mode, which is at 1.3V
Hmm thats strange can you send me your bios?Quote:
Originally posted by detonator
Finaly I can post:)3 days to activate my account...
Ok I edited a bios from a fresh XFX 6800ULTRA 425/1200@450/1200 V1.5 3D
to test it,but I got ramdom frezzes...on 3DMarck 2003...
So I flashed back to Noxis's bios 450/1200 and everything work great again....
Ok now Coolbit show the right frequenzy, but I think the voltage dident take any effect ,stilll 1.4on my guess ,that why I got frezz.
Trying this now on a new PNY 6800U
I will upload the rom file too.
Send it to me as well (mavke@mvktech.net) or upload it to www.mvktech.net :-)Quote:
Originally posted by FUGGER
Trying this now on a new PNY 6800U
I will upload the rom file too.
hi, dudes,
i have a xfx6800gt, and when i run the program its says the same things, 1.1v for 2d, 1.3v for thrtl and 1.4v for 3d, I changed mine to 1.4v for thrtl and 1.5v on 3d, i kept 1.1v for 2d, everything worked fine and i ganes 25mhz extra and now after running aquamark and 3dmark2003 then doing a detect optimum frequencys in coolbits im gettin 429 core and 1.19 mem, befor i only got 401 and 1.12, so after this i tried changing the thrtl to 1.5v aswell and as soon as i started a game it crashed, therefor i agree with xtremetheme i think thrtl is the 3d mode.
also can sometell me why in the verson 1.1 of the program its tells me that my 3d core and mem speeds were 350 and 500 (i changed these to 400 and 1.15) but the bottom one called 2d says only 300 and 300, but when i used coolbits it told me my 2d and 3d speeds were the same, is this 300 and 300 the speed it starts up at while booting into windows.
And by the way this program rocks,
Hi, thx your reply is very valuable. :)Quote:
Originally posted by warhorse
hi, dudes,
i have a xfx6800gt, and when i run the program its says the same things, 1.1v for 2d, 1.3v for thrtl and 1.4v for 3d, I changed mine to 1.4v for thrtl and 1.5v on 3d, i kept 1.1v for 2d, everything worked fine and i ganes 25mhz extra and now after running aquamark and 3dmark2003 then doing a detect optimum frequencys in coolbits im gettin 429 core and 1.19 mem, befor i only got 401 and 1.12, so after this i tried changing the thrtl to 1.5v aswell and as soon as i started a game it crashed, therefor i agree with xtremetheme i think thrtl is the 3d mode.
also can sometell me why in the verson 1.1 of the program its tells me that my 3d core and mem speeds were 350 and 500 (i changed these to 400 and 1.15) but the bottom one called 2d says only 300 and 300, but when i used coolbits it told me my 2d and 3d speeds were the same, is this 300 and 300 the speed it starts up at while booting into windows.
And by the way this program rocks,
So your 3D and 2D Speed is always the same in coolbits? If i look at my 6800GT BIOSes i see that everyone has these 300/300 as 2D mode, so it seems 6800GTs dont use a 2D mode but always 3D instead.
Will be fixed in next version.
About the voltages i dont understand:
You changed them to 1.5V 3D, 1.4V Thtr and 1.1V 2D, and you could oc more.
Then you made 1.5V 3D, 1.5V Thrtl and 1.1V 2D and game crashed. So you think that 1.5V is to much and caused the crash?
What happens when you do 1.3V 3D, 1.4V thrtl, 1.1V 2D, can you oc the same?
ok this is a XFX 6800 Ultra Bios.standar:
425/1200
hi again,
right i did the test you asked mate,
on 1.1v 3d, 1.4v thrtl, and 1.1v 2d, same overclock as 1.5v 3d, 1.4v thrtl and 1.1v 2d.
on 1.3v 3d, 1.4v thrtl. and 1.1v 2d, same overclock again.
on 1.4v 3d, 1.4v thrtl, and 1.1v 2d, same overclock again.
only when i push the thrtl up to 1.5v does it crash, so i do think having 1.5v on the thrtl is to much for the card.
on the above settings using auto detect in coolbits i always managed an average optimun frequency of 428 core, and 1.19 mem.
when i put the settings back to there original ways, 1.4v 3d, 1.3v thrtl, and 1.1v 2d, i only auto detect in coolbits optimum frequencys of around 406 core and 1.15 mem.
therefor i think the thrtl is the 3d setting, (but dont take my word for it, i know :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: about bios's).
It just seems the 3d setting does nothing at all.
i hope all this helps you.
Could you try 1.3v throttle? That would help confirm your theory (if clocks are lower).
i did try a 1.3v thrtl.
when i put the settings back to there original ways, 1.4v 3d, 1.3v thrtl, and 1.1v 2d, i only auto detect in coolbits optimum frequencys of around 406 core and 1.15 mem.
Thx, can you test if this one works?Quote:
Originally posted by detonator
ok this is a XFX 6800 Ultra Bios.standar:
425/1200
http://home.graffiti.net/omniextreme/xfxultra2.zip
@warhorse
Very good, that will make life better for 6800GT users :)
So default GT BIOS is 1.3v "thrtl", and raising that to 1.4v gives higher clocks?Quote:
Originally posted by warhorse
i did try a 1.3v thrtl.
when i put the settings back to there original ways, 1.4v 3d, 1.3v thrtl, and 1.1v 2d, i only auto detect in coolbits optimum frequencys of around 406 core and 1.15 mem.
It looks like you're right about the "thrtl" actually being the 3D setting, but my Ultra shows 1.3v "thrtl" too, and it's supposed to be 1.4v 3D?
thats mighty weird. :confused:
Your Ultra is shown correct, 1.4V 3D and 1.3V Thrtl. Its just a thing of 6800GTs, new version will show them correct.Quote:
Originally posted by Sir Random
So default GT BIOS is 1.3v "thrtl", and raising that to 1.4v gives higher clocks?
It looks like you're right about the "thrtl" actually being the 3D setting, but my Ultra shows 1.3v "thrtl" too, and it's supposed to be 1.4v 3D?
(And 6800NUs? Anybody got an 6800NU?)
bios work great now,I cna bench at 450/1300 full air.wath was the problem?
I have no idea, maybe the BIOS you modded before was not clean or you didnt made the 2D value the same as the 3D, like Noxis had in his BIOS. Maybe your card needs that for some reason.Quote:
Originally posted by detonator
bios work great now,I cna bench at 450/1300 full air.wath was the problem?
I used the xfxultra.rom you gave me, opend in my editor and changed 3D V to 1.5V and the 2D & 3D values to 450/1200.
Hmm Cybercat could you try if giving Thtrl. more Vs helps you oc?Quote:
Originally posted by Cybercat
I used the editor to increase the voltage to 1.5 on my 6800. Oddly enough, it didn't improve overclocks any. Temperatures remain in the 60s most of the time. Frustrating, I can get 380 on the core, but I can't even get 750 on my memory completely artifact-free. A lot of people are getting 800. :(
EDIT: Nevermind, it does get into the 70s.
Maybe its the same like with the 6800GTs.
On my BFG6800U the new 1.1 reports 3D at 300 300 and 2D at 470 550. The later is correct for this card. Your old revision did report the correct 3d clocks and 2D.
Any way the 1.1 revision does work.
can be... tnx alot for yuor job:):toast:
do you think is possible to leave the fun spipping at the max all the time?
Sorry what u mean with fun snipping? :confused:Quote:
Originally posted by detonator
do you think is possible to leave the fun spipping at the max all the time?
And i have Version 1.2 ready.
Fixed 6800GT clockrates and voltages, fixed some 6800NU and 6800U clockrates.
http://home.graffiti.net/omniextreme...EditFX_1_2.rar
top job mate,
version 1.2 works perfect.
thanks. :toast:
I had both the 3D voltage and the thtrl at 1.5v when I did the mod. 2D was at 1.2v.Quote:
Originally posted by xtremetheme
Hmm Cybercat could you try if giving Thtrl. more Vs helps you oc?
Maybe its the same like with the 6800GTs.
Great :-)Quote:
Originally posted by xtremetheme
Sorry what u mean with fun snipping? :confused:
And i have Version 1.2 ready.
Fixed 6800GT clockrates and voltages, fixed some 6800NU and 6800U clockrates.
http://home.graffiti.net/omniextreme...EditFX_1_2.rar
OmniExtremeEdit FX v1.2 - At mvktech.net
When pc start the fan run faster,when bot on windos stop and run medium,Im askin if is possible to leave the fun spin at the max all the time.Quote:
Originally posted by xtremetheme
Sorry what u mean with fun snipping? :confused:
And i have Version 1.2 ready.
Fixed 6800GT clockrates and voltages, fixed some 6800NU and 6800U clockrates.
http://home.graffiti.net/omniextreme...EditFX_1_2.rar
i think he means is it possible to get the FAN SPINNING at full speed all the time. :confused:
yes wath I mean tnx,sorry for my english :p:Quote:
Originally posted by warhorse
i think he means is it possible to get the FAN SPINNING at full speed all the time. :confused:
I have a BIOS that will not work in the Tool...Quote:
Originally posted by xtremetheme
Sorry what u mean with fun snipping? :confused:
And i have Version 1.2 ready.
Fixed 6800GT clockrates and voltages, fixed some 6800NU and 6800U clockrates.
http://home.graffiti.net/omniextreme...EditFX_1_2.rar
This is of a AOpen GeForce 6800 GT 256MB 350/1000 .
BIOS Version 5.40.02.15.02
I have attached it.
thats very strange, because the bios on my xfx 6800gt is exactly the same one, BIOS Version 5.40.02.15.02. and my comes up fine.
when i tried yours it said vgpu not found and clockrates not found, very weird.
ive included my original bios with this post (i hope), try it if you like. just select rename and remove the .txt bit.
also here is my modified one, it has 405 core and 1150 mem.
it has 1.1v on 2d and 1.4v on 3d.
on my card i can set the core up to 425 and the mem up to 1200, but i do the rest of the overclock through coolbits,(just incase anything goes wrong or i push it to far).
do the same as the last one just select rename and delete the .txt bit.
Quote:
Originally posted by Mavke
I have a BIOS that will not work in the Tool...
This is of a AOpen GeForce 6800 GT 256MB 350/1000 .
BIOS Version 5.40.02.15.02
I have attached it.
Hmm that BIOS looks strange, the checksum is either missing or incorrect, you sure it was read out correctly?
I will ask to make sure :-)Quote:
Originally posted by xtremetheme
Hmm that BIOS looks strange, the checksum is either missing or incorrect, you sure it was read out correctly?
I notice that when changing a 6800 Ultra from 1.4V to 1.5V using OmniExtremeEditFX v1.2 that 8201 is changed to 9603. I would have expected it to just be 8203 for 1.5V. Is the change to 9603 correct?
First of all thank you Xtremetheme for the Great tool and for supporting the FX users!
I have an XpertVision (Nvidia reference) 6800NU which overclocks pretty well: 400Mhz Core/900Mhz Mem (with Powerstrip). (3DMark 2003 Score: 10982:banana: )
I wanted to mod my bios just to avoid using a tool to change my core/mem frequencies (and see if the core overclocks more;) )
I tried the following versions:
1.2 Results: -can't change 2D clock speed
-3D clock displays correctly
-can't change thr voltage
1.1 Results: -can change both 2D/3D but 3D speeds displays incorrectly
-can change thr voltage.
Sry for the n00bish question but are these settings correct?
3D voltage: 1.4v
Thr voltage: 1.2v
2D voltage: 1.1v
Thx
PS: Im currently on a MS Server2003 course :D , but as soon as I get home I'm going to link here the bios.
Yes, the 96 is just like a comment which describes what the 03 setting means.Quote:
Originally posted by bmg
I notice that when changing a 6800 Ultra from 1.4V to 1.5V using OmniExtremeEditFX v1.2 that 8201 is changed to 9603. I would have expected it to just be 8203 for 1.5V. Is the change to 9603 correct?
Original vendor BIOSes use the 96 if their card is 1.5V by default. 8203 gives the same result, but a stranger (or my program ;)) would think that the 03 means 82 = 1.4V, when not knowing someone modded the BIOS.
8202 -> 8203 works but is a lazy way ;)
Thats why my program shows not the right voltage on handmodded BIOSes which didnt change the comment.
Hi, good to hear someone with a 6800.Quote:
Originally posted by Desmondo
I wanted to mod my bios just to avoid using a tool to change my core/mem frequencies (and see if the core overclocks more;) )
I tried the following versions:
1.2 Results: -can't change 2D clock speed
-3D clock displays correctly
-can't change thr voltage
1.1 Results: -can change both 2D/3D but 3D speeds displays incorrectly
-can change thr voltage.
Sry for the n00bish question but are these settings correct?
3D voltage: 1.4v
Thr voltage: 1.2v
2D voltage: 1.1v
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I based handling of 6800 like on the 6800GT.
6800GTs always use the same clocks, that why i took their 2D setting away, as they where not used anyway.
Or does your 6800 use different 2D / 3D Profiles in the drivers?
6800GT also dont use the thrtl voltage so i took them away from the 6800s also.
I am not sure what V mode the 6800 in 3D uses, but its easy to test:
With 1.2 change the 3D Vs to 1.5V and see if you can oc higher.
Or change them lower to 1.2V or such and see if you cant oc good anymore.
Yes I have different profiles for 2D/3D on the 6800Nu if my memory doesn't fails.Quote:
Originally posted by xtremetheme
Hi, good to hear someone with a 6800.
I based handling of 6800 like on the 6800GT.
6800GTs always use the same clocks, that why i took their 2D setting away, as they where not used anyway.
Or does your 6800 use different 2D / 3D Profiles in the drivers?
6800GT also dont use the thrtl voltage so i took them away from the 6800s also.
I am not sure what V mode the 6800 in 3D uses, but its easy to test:
With 1.2 change the 3D Vs to 1.5V and see if you can oc higher.
Or change them lower to 1.2V or such and see if you cant oc good anymore.
(Maybe 2D runs at the same base clock speeds, but I only set the 3D part when I'm overclocking. I don't think 1.1v should be sufficient even in 2D, or am I wrong? Or should i just set the 2D voltage to 1.4 or 1.5 too and syncronize my clock speeds?
Example: 1.4v for 2D 400/450 and 1.4v for 3D 400/900?)
What does the thrtl voltage for?:help:
Thank you in advance.
Ps: Still I'm going to post my bios first, just for sure;)
Here is my bios:)
What are your speeds in 2D profile then? Can you change your 2D Profile speeds? (in driver)Quote:
Originally posted by Desmondo
Yes I have different profiles for 2D/3D on the 6800Nu if my memory doesn't fails.
(Maybe 2D runs at the same base clock speeds, but I only set the 3D part when I'm overclocking. I don't think 1.1v should be sufficient even in 2D, or am I wrong? Or should i just set the 2D voltage to 1.4 or 1.5 too and syncronize my clock speeds?
Example: 1.4v for 2D 400/450 and 1.4v for 3D 400/900?)
What does the thrtl voltage for?:help:
Thank you in advance.
Ps: Still I'm going to post my bios first, just for sure;)
Thrtl is the mode the card switches into when its overheated or doesnt know if it has to deliver 2D or 3D mode.
My 2D Profile setting are the same as the 3D settings (325/350) and yes I can change the 2D profile speeds (in driver).Quote:
Originally posted by xtremetheme
What are your speeds in 2D profile then? Can you change your 2D Profile speeds? (in driver)
Thrtl is the mode the card switches into when its overheated or doesnt know if it has to deliver 2D or 3D mode.
It would be nice to change the thrtl voltage too, because sometimes between 2 tests in 3DMark 2003 the card switches to suspended mode. (not because of overheating issues for sure)
If you change the settings in 2D profile and apply, what happens then, do the values from the 3D profile also change?Quote:
Originally posted by Desmondo
My 2D Profile setting are the same as the 3D settings (325/350) and yes I can change the 2D profile speeds (in driver).
It would be nice to change the thrtl voltage too, because sometimes between 2 tests in 3DMark 2003 the card switches to suspended mode. (not because of overheating issues for sure)
Or do the 2D values change when you change the 3D ones?
About the thrtl voltage im not sure unless someone answers me on the 3D voltage.
Quote:
I am not sure what V mode the 6800 in 3D uses, but its easy to test:
With 1.2 change the 3D Vs to 1.5V and see if you can oc higher.
Or change them lower to 1.2V or such and see if you cant oc good anymore.
Can you use voltages like 1.35, 1.45, etc?
At 1.4vgpu, my PNY 6800 GT clocks very well, but heat becomes an issue due to the increased voltages.
No sorry you can only use voltages the card offers.Quote:
Originally posted by Çhrist0ph
Can you use voltages like 1.35, 1.45, etc?
At 1.4vgpu, my PNY 6800 GT clocks very well, but heat becomes an issue due to the increased voltages.
But your card could like watercooling :p:
darn, I thought it would work since I could change 1.3 to 1.35 in the text box of the program. Looks like I have to cool her some more!Quote:
Originally posted by xtremetheme
No sorry you can only use voltages the card offers.
But your card could like watercooling :p:
Anyone know if there is a way of checking a Bios file to see if Fast Writes is enabled?
Also how do you tell which Bios version you have?
Thanks.
If I change the settings in 2D profile the values from the 3D profile doesn't change. So it is separated like on my "good old" 5900. The memory settings are the same. If I change the memory in 3D, then it is changing in 2D too. But I can set different frequencies for 2D/3D core.Quote:
Originally posted by xtremetheme
If you change the settings in 2D profile and apply, what happens then, do the values from the 3D profile also change?
Or do the 2D values change when you change the 3D ones?
About the thrtl voltage im not sure unless someone answers me on the 3D voltage.
I think the 3D voltage is correct at 1.4v, but i don't know if the 1.1v for the 2D is OK?
Did u check my bios?
THX
I dont know how to check FastWrites.Quote:
Originally posted by dzuser
Anyone know if there is a way of checking a Bios file to see if Fast Writes is enabled?
Also how do you tell which Bios version you have?
Thanks.
But my Editor should show the BIOS Version.
Ok then i will enable 6800 to edit the 2D core. :)Quote:
Originally posted by dzuser
If I change the settings in 2D profile the values from the 3D profile doesn't change. So it is separated like on my "good old" 5900. The memory settings are the same. If I change the memory in 3D, then it is changing in 2D too. But I can set different frequencies for 2D/3D core.
I think the 3D voltage is correct at 1.4v, but i don't know if the 1.1v for the 2D is OK?
Did u check my bios?
THX
I dont know about the voltages, it could also be that the card gets 1.2V in 2D. Someone with a multimeter could clarify this.
Thank you!:cool: And as I mentioned it would be pretty cool to change the thtr voltage too (which I could't set in 1.2 version of your tool). I should set that voltage to 1.4v because I think this causes the most of the problems: "Playing for three hours without a problem or artifacting then quiting from the game freeze" or "sometimes the card goes standby mode between 2 tests in 3Dmark 2003")Quote:
Originally posted by xtremetheme
I dont know how to check FastWrites.
But my Editor should show the BIOS Version.
Ok then i will enable 6800 to edit the 2D core. :)
I dont know about the voltages, it could also be that the card gets 1.2V in 2D. Someone with a multimeter could clarify this.
Thank you in advance:D :toast:
Xtremetheme!
I tried the first version of your tool (1.0) and it's perfect!:banana: (almost;) ):
-I can set all the three voltages (I really need the possibility of setting ALL three, so its fine!)
-3D speed is detected correctly! (325/350)
The only thing I need is the 2D profile setting (also 325/350 base). So could you please enable the 2D setting in 1.0? That should solve my "problem"!
Thx:worship:
Ok 1.3 has now your proposed changes for 6800.
Also it has support for 5800/U, 5700LE, 5600/U/XT, 5500, 5200/U.
http://home.graffiti.net/omniextreme...Edit_FX1_3.rar
Mavke when you mirror this, can you include the release notes in the txt file you add to the download? That would make the txt a bit more informative.
So my tool supports now:
- 6800U/GT
- 5950U
- 5900/U/XT
- 5800/U
- 5700/U/LE
- 5600/U/XT
- 5500
- 5200/U
Cards im missing right now are the 5900SE and the 6800LE, correct?
THX Xtremetheme:banana: But:(Quote:
Originally posted by xtremetheme
Ok 1.3 has now your proposed changes for 6800.
Also it has support for 5800/U, 5700LE, 5600/U/XT, 5500, 5200/U.
http://home.graffiti.net/omniextreme...Edit_FX1_3.rar
Mavke when you mirror this, can you include the release notes in the txt file you add to the download? That would make the txt a bit more informative.
So my tool supports now:
- 6800U/GT
- 5950U
- 5900/U/XT
- 5800/U
- 5700/U/LE
- 5600/U/XT
- 5500
- 5200/U
Cards im missing right now are the 5900SE and the 6800LE, correct?
Thtr (which I set to 1.4v) doestn't stick. I set all the three voltages to 1.4v then when I reload the modded bios it says Thtr voltage 1.2v, so it didn't saved:(
2D core setting is now available (the memory not). But maybe I shouldn't need that or am I wrong?
THX!
Arghh, good you reacted so fast. :)Quote:
Originally posted by Desmondo
THX Xtremetheme:banana: But:(
Thtr (which I set to 1.4v) doestn't stick. I set all the three voltages to 1.4v then when I reload the modded bios it says Thtr voltage 1.2v, so it didn't saved:(
2D core setting is now available (the memory not). But maybe I shouldn't need that or am I wrong?
THX!
I replaced the file with a correct one, dowload again.
If you cant keep seperate 2D / 3D mem clocks in your driver, changing them in BIOS would have no effect, as the driver will always only use one.
Man it's working!:banana: THX! I'm gonna try to falsh the new bios and report back!;)Quote:
Originally posted by xtremetheme
Arghh, good you reacted so fast. :)
I replaced the file with a correct one, dowload again.
If you cant keep seperate 2D / 3D mem clocks in your driver, changing them in BIOS would have no effect, as the driver will always only use one.
Xtremetheme you did it!:banana: :banana: :toast:
Now I can I set all the tree voltages to 1.4v (and they "stick"!!)
Coolbits2 shows 400/900 in 2D and 400/900 in 3D too.
Thank you :worship: :worship: :D
Xtremetheme i have a Chaintech FX5700U and i have 2 problems with your program.....
I can't change the memory values......
and when i try to change the momory timings i see the following message and some strange numbers for timings........
Hi, you can only change the 2D mem speed because 3D or thrtl would be ignored anyway, try changing the 2D speed and your 3D mem speed should also have the same value.
The message shows that you are not allowed to edit timing A, which obviously you cant.
The numbers represent some of your timings. Making them lower will give you more performance, making them higher should allow you to oc the memory higher.
I would try to test a timing changed BIOS with vgabios.exe first.
vgabios will load a bios temporarly under dos so you can see if your pc would crash with changed timings.
I try the vgabios.exe at dos mode writing the following...
vgabios.exe -f5700o.rom -t0
but it gave me the message "Checksum Error!"....
Hmm try without the -t ?Quote:
Originally posted by DMylonas
I try the vgabios.exe at dos mode writing the following...
vgabios.exe -f5700o.rom -t0
but it gave me the message "Checksum Error!"....
Or use nvchk.exe on the BIOS, and post if it wrote a new checksum.
Again the same message.......
the same without -t....
Hmm pfff nvchk says the checksum is correct, no idea why vgabios does this crap. Have you tried accessing the bios from your harddisk?
E.g. leaving the .rom on your c: drive and not on a floppy?
I use Windows XP Pro with NTFS and i can't se drive C: from dos mode.... I send you my bios, to test them....
Hmm i cant see a failure, can you use vgabios on the unmodded bios?Quote:
Originally posted by DMylonas
I use Windows XP Pro with NTFS and i can't se drive C: from dos mode.... I send you my bios, to test them....
And you set your memory speed to 62mhz in the modded one.
You use nvflash to read them out?
No i can't use vgabios with the unmodded bios... I take the same error...
I set the memory speed to 1000mhz from OEE1.3, and the program set it to 62mhz.... i found a little bug on your program, i think :)
Thx i will look into this :)Quote:
Originally posted by DMylonas
No i can't use vgabios with the unmodded bios... I take the same error...
I set the memory speed to 1000mhz from OEE1.3, and the program set it to 62mhz.... i found a little bug on your program, i think :)
But you know the mem values must be multiplied by 2, so i would set 500mhz instead of 1000.