First run with Newcastle 3400+ with Stock Mach 1 (home made A64 kit :D )

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07-22-2004, 06:28 AM
kakaroto

First run with Newcastle 3400+ with Stock Mach 1 (home made A64 kit :D )

Check this out :)

Today i finished my homemade A64 kit, made with 5mm UVBlue plexiglass. This looks much better then the madshrimps one :p:

And the results are awesome compare to a $100 A64 kit by Nventiv. This cost me around $10,- at most :)

Based on this: http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=gethowto&howtoID=41

Here some pics of the mod:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/mods/A.../UVplexi_2.jpg

http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/mods/A.../UVplexi_3.jpg

http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/mods/A..._kit_final.jpg

http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/mods/A.../backplate.jpg

Polisched evap:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/mods/A...ste%20evap.jpg [IMG]

And the results:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/A64_34...400_2.9GHz.PNG

Vcore: 1.68v-1.72v (EPoX 8KDAJ fluc. a little)

Pretty cool this first run :)
Temps: -25C idle / -18C stressed / evap: -43C

Playing further .. :)
07-22-2004, 06:44 AM
Jupiler

Nice work you've done there, and nice results too. Congrats.
Very inventive.;)
07-22-2004, 06:47 AM
Noldor

Great results! :toast:

Got any good gpu to do some 3d benching?
07-22-2004, 06:48 AM
Filter

:edit: i thought this was clawhammer not new caslte.
07-22-2004, 06:49 AM
kakaroto

3dmark01 scores are on the way... still finding best voltage. :)
07-22-2004, 07:00 AM
Tedinde

Very Nice!!!! I need a higher multi than this 3000+ newcastle so i can use my Good BH5's. I've been wondering how the 3400 newcastles would do.

I max mine out @ 2.85ghz and still benchable.

Do you think the chip has some more in her with some more volts??

10x less the price of having to buy is always nice. What's the max you Cpu volts you can get on the epox board. Mine max's @ 1.81v when set to 1.85v. My temps are staying in line. The newcastle runs a lot cooler than the Clawhammer i have here.

What's you temps at??
07-22-2004, 07:04 AM
kakaroto

Quote:

Originally posted by Tedinde
Very Nice!!!! I need a higher multi than this 3000+ newcastle so i can use my Good BH5's. I've been wondering how the 3400 newcastles would do.

I max mine out @ 2.85ghz and still benchable.

Do you think the chip has some more in her with some more volts??

10x less the price of having to buy is always nice. What's the max you Cpu volts you can get on the epox board. Mine max's @ 1.81v when set to 1.85v. My temps are staying in line. The newcastle runs a lot cooler than the Clawhammer i have here.

What's you temps at??

It depends on what voltage you are @2.85GHz. What cooling are you using?

My temps are now -1/-2C still priming.
Hows this baby do on a refilled mach 1 :D
07-22-2004, 07:13 AM
Jupiler

Ted :

I noticed that some stores in germany have dropped the prices for the A64 chips.

A64 3000+ : 170€
A64 3200+ : 220€
A64 3400+ : 300€

Don't know if they changed in the US too. perhaps wanna check it out.
I'm gonna wait a couple more days and prolly get an 3200+ or even a 3400+. We'll see.
07-22-2004, 07:35 AM
thephenom

nice oc. :slobber:
07-22-2004, 07:42 AM
Jeff

Very nice! :up:
07-22-2004, 07:45 AM
kakaroto

Quote:

Originally posted by Jeff
Very nice! :up:

what is your topic about your OC with NC3200+?
07-22-2004, 07:55 AM
Jeff

You mean this one... :confused:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...threadid=38606
07-22-2004, 08:02 AM
kakaroto

Jeff: Tnx, now i can see what temps a Mach 1 @507 has on this board :)

This is a stable speed now:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/A64_34...me_2.82GHz.PNG
07-22-2004, 08:05 AM
Jeff

I'll be curious if you'll be able to get over 2830-2840MHz stable. I'm having a bit of a problem getting above that to run stable... even with 2.1v. ;) Seems 1.95v gets 2810MHz stable and then the extra .15v doesn't get much more for me. Could be my chip though... :(

Good luck. :toast:
07-22-2004, 08:23 AM
skate2snow

Nice!

Hey, What did you use to cut the plexi? I just cant find out how to cut some plexi....

THX
07-22-2004, 08:27 AM
BMORIN

Man, that is a really nice cut on that plexi, how'd you do it?
07-22-2004, 08:34 AM
kakaroto

Quote:

Originally posted by skate2snow
Nice!

Hey, What did you use to cut the plexi? I just cant find out how to cut some plexi....

THX

Quote:

Originally posted by BMORIN
Man, that is a really nice cut on that plexi, how'd you do it?

Thnx :D i cut it with a dremel (the inside) and a Jig saw (@low speed :P) to cut the plate. Very easy to make.
Took me around three hours totale.
07-22-2004, 09:13 AM
HawainPanda

3 hours...lol nyways, sweet job!
07-23-2004, 12:42 AM
kakaroto

Quote:

Originally posted by HawainPanda
3 hours...lol nyways, sweet job!

3 hours made that plexi, including and modding bracket, etc.. :D
07-23-2004, 01:10 AM
Troopah

omg nice results dude :up: keep it uppppppppp
07-23-2004, 01:24 AM
kakaroto

Pushing some more :) stable offcourse.
But sometimes this board craps out... :confused: after hours of prime when i do something else...

http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/A64_34...8M_2.84GHz.PNG

A question maybe someone know:

When i scroll my mouse, i hear something from my cpu/mosfet. a litte sissing sound.

Whats that??
07-23-2004, 02:36 AM
Jeff

Quote:

Originally posted by kakaroto
But sometimes this board craps out... :confused: after hours of prime when i do something else...

Ok... that's what I've been getting too. It seems to happen more with my BH-5 sticks than with my AData for some reason too. I still haven't gotten around to really looking into it though. I tried the easy things like adding cooling to the chipset, regs, memory, etc but it doesn't act like a heat related problem. :confused:

At any rate... nice results! :up:
07-23-2004, 05:33 AM
spellsfromhell

Quote:

Originally posted by Jeff
Ok... that's what I've been getting too. It seems to happen more with my BH-5 sticks than with my AData for some reason too. I still haven't gotten around to really looking into it though. I tried the easy things like adding cooling to the chipset, regs, memory, etc but it doesn't act like a heat related problem. :confused:

At any rate... nice results! :up:

hmm, when you say you added cooling to the chipset, what did you? cause i need to make mine active
07-23-2004, 05:37 AM
Jeff

First thing is just take off the original and put some real thermal paste down. ;) I did that and then just added a fan blowing across it. My chipset temperature went from ~70c to ~40c.
07-23-2004, 05:42 AM
spellsfromhell

arctic silver adhesive stuff?

how did you fit the fan with nothing to attach it to? cause im in a tight spot thanks to the heatpipe vga cooler..
07-23-2004, 05:44 AM
Jeff

Nope... AS Arctic Alumina with a little hot glue in the corners(no glue is actually on the chipset though). Then the fan is just an 80mm fan blowing across the stock heatsink.

Not the best solution in the world... but it works. ;)
07-23-2004, 09:52 AM
kakaroto

some more juice :)

http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/A64_34...st_2.93GHz.PNG :banana:

temps: -17 idle / +7C stressed / STOCK mach I
07-23-2004, 10:58 AM
Jeff

Nice chip. :up: (yes... I am very jealous!!! :D)

What memory timings are you using? (is your siggy updated?)
07-23-2004, 12:13 PM
kakaroto

Quote:

Originally posted by Jeff
Nice chip. :up: (yes... I am very jealous!!! :D)

What memory timings are you using? (is your siggy updated?)

well, i use the same mem as in my sig.
But that was on the shuttle AN50R... this board do not like my mem or this board is crappy.

I need for 266MHz 1T 2-2-2-5 3.4v... that very crappy. On the shuttle i needed 3.07-3.2v.

But nothing to do about it...
07-23-2004, 12:30 PM
=STE=BloodAngel

I noticed that 2, my old BH-5 did 270 2-2-2-11 with 3.2V on my Nforce2 motherboard. And on my 8KDA3+ I could hardly get it any further than 250 with the same voltage.
07-23-2004, 12:33 PM
BMORIN

BTW, those are some sweet BGA ramsinks you have there. Where did you get those? I bet they'd be great for sticking on hotspots on the mobo as well.
07-24-2004, 12:05 AM
kakaroto

Quote:

Originally posted by =STE=BloodAngel
I noticed that 2, my old BH-5 did 270 2-2-2-11 with 3.2V on my Nforce2 motherboard. And on my 8KDA3+ I could hardly get it any further than 250 with the same voltage.

Yes, i have the same problem... crappy board i think or bios..

Quote:

Originally posted by BMORIN
BTW, those are some sweet BGA ramsinks you have there. Where did you get those? I bet they'd be great for sticking on hotspots on the mobo as well.

By a internet computer shop in the netherlands? :D
Butt is only foor the look, those ramsinks getting very hot with a decent voltage ..
07-24-2004, 02:03 AM
althes

i need to get that board to go with my 2800+ do soem tests.
07-24-2004, 12:16 PM
milan03

dont you wanna lower that multi and raise some more fsb?
07-25-2004, 02:50 AM
kakaroto

Quote:

Originally posted by milan03
dont you wanna lower that multi and raise some more fsb?

yeah but my mobo doenst like my mem so much, so MP11 is max.
07-25-2004, 03:27 AM
Zeus

Quote:

Originally posted by kakaroto
yeah but my mobo doenst like my mem so much, so MP11 is max.

You care to sell it to me? ;)
07-25-2004, 07:23 AM
amd3001

i have a mach 1 also, but i have never used it on my a64..
i guess i need to sell it but no one wants mach 1's anymore..
2900mhz+on mach 1 is killer thou..
07-25-2004, 08:28 AM
fr0zen

gj... i just love that cpu kit :D
07-25-2004, 08:38 AM
Jeff

Quote:

Originally posted by amd3001
i guess i need to sell it but no one wants mach 1's anymore..

Where did you hear that? Try putting it up forsale and if the price is reasonable... someone will buy. Hell... if it's cheap enough I'd even consider buying another one.

I love my Mach1. ;)
07-26-2004, 02:19 AM
kakaroto

i made a new backplate. The old one was not good enough.

http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/mods/A..._backplate.jpg
07-27-2004, 02:55 AM
kakaroto

a another push, :banana: killed a FX-53@2.92GHz

http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/A64_34...st_2.98GHz.PNG
07-27-2004, 03:16 AM
=STE=BloodAngel

Cool 2985Mhz without voltage :stick: , why is it gray in cpu-z?
07-27-2004, 03:56 AM
kakaroto

Quote:

Originally posted by =STE=BloodAngel
Cool 2985Mhz without voltage :stick: , why is it gray in cpu-z?

its when you open CPU-Z and make a screen, it always takes a while when te voltage shows.

Vcore = 1.84v idle state.
07-27-2004, 04:30 AM
bias_hjorth

good to see you made the front and backplate work dude ;)

nice ocing. :)
07-27-2004, 05:43 AM
mcnbns

All you need to do now is give it a couple more MHz on the HTT and get a 3GHz screenie. (Is it possible?) Awesome job! :)
07-27-2004, 05:53 AM
kakaroto

Quote:

Originally posted by mcnbns
All you need to do now is give it a couple more MHz on the HTT and get a 3GHz screenie. (Is it possible?) Awesome job! :)

here is it is :

http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/A64_3400/3GHz.PNG

:toast:
07-27-2004, 07:47 AM
YoupY

well done :toast:

Now let's see a pifast @ that speed. Should be possible with 1.9V :D
07-27-2004, 02:00 PM
fr0zen

3ghz with stock mach 1 o_0 damn that's wild
08-19-2004, 01:06 AM
kakaroto

Kicking my Topic :)

I refilled my prom with R507, Look what i get now :toast:

Soon a 3dmark run @3GHz !!

http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/A64_34...st_3.03GHz.PNG

temps: -28 ~ -32C idle
Evap: -44C ~ -51C idle
08-19-2004, 01:11 AM
bias_hjorth

nicely done! Awesome cpu you got there :)
08-22-2004, 09:29 AM
kakaroto

finally also 3dmark/ doom3 stable :D :D

http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/A64_34...ark_3.0GHz.PNG

The GPU (9800SE@PRo) is the bottleneck as you see. Time for a X800 XT !
08-22-2004, 09:59 AM
Raphaug

?

I see that you they have the spesific lenghts in inches(1/4")
But Im form norway, and here we only use Centimeters(cm) :slobber:

can anyone tell me the spesific lenghts of the mounting plate on top of the evaporator in centimeters?(cm)

Im planing to make my own allredy tomorrow.

:D
08-22-2004, 10:12 AM
Lyx0r

google can :)

http://www.google.dk/search?sourceid...define%3A+inch

EDIT: Btw, can anyone tell us whats up with that sizzling sound kakaroto is talking about? I've had it with both my 3.0C and my 2.0A, where the only component being the same is the graphics card (TI-4200).

But my ears tell me it's the CPU. But why is it only when scrolling? And only when i use the wheel on the mouse, the arrow keys or the (top/buttom) arrows on the scrollbar, not when using the scrollbar (pulling).

Wierd...
08-23-2004, 01:53 AM
kakaroto

Quote:

Originally posted by Lyx0r
google can :)

http://www.google.dk/search?sourceid...define%3A+inch

EDIT: Btw, can anyone tell us whats up with that sizzling sound kakaroto is talking about? I've had it with both my 3.0C and my 2.0A, where the only component being the same is the graphics card (TI-4200).

But my ears tell me it's the CPU. But why is it only when scrolling? And only when i use the wheel on the mouse, the arrow keys or the (top/buttom) arrows on the scrollbar, not when using the scrollbar (pulling).

Wierd...

Its not the CPU, the coils around the CPU socket make noise, thats because they move very fast..thats why you will hear some sizzleing.
08-23-2004, 02:00 AM
Zeus

Eh, your coils are moving very fast? :ROTF:
08-23-2004, 02:04 AM
kakaroto

haha, what is it then?
08-23-2004, 02:17 AM
Zeus

Well, most likely it's the coils you hear or even the caps but how on earth do you see them moving very fast?

Some mobo's have a high pitched noise coming from the coils, glueing them to the PCB with hotglue solves this. ;)
08-23-2004, 02:21 AM
kakaroto

Quote:

Originally posted by Zeus
Well, most likely it's the coils you hear or even the caps but how on earth do you see them moving very fast?

Some mobo's have a high pitched noise coming from the coils, glueing them to the PCB with hotglue solves this. ;)

cause when i touch them, the sizzle is gone...

Anyway with the prometeia on i dont hear it anymore :p:
08-23-2004, 02:26 AM
Zeus

You mean they vibrate with "move very fast" right?

Just glue them to the PCB with some hotglue and you're set.
08-23-2004, 02:36 AM
kakaroto

Yeah thats what i mean, my englisch is sometimes not that OK use the wrong words ;)

I think virbrate = moving (Bewegen toch? :D )
08-23-2004, 02:47 AM
Jeff

Nothing wrong with the way you said it Kakaroto... when something vibrates it moves so you saying "it moves very fast" is fine.

BTW, everyone seems to hate this sound... except me. I can tell how my PC is running by this sound. I have it on a KVM switch and without evening switching to it I can tell it's crunching away... or uploading... or gasp... crashed. :D
08-23-2004, 02:52 AM
Zeus

Quote:

Originally posted by kakaroto
Yeah thats what i mean, my englisch is sometimes not that OK use the wrong words ;)

I think virbrate = moving (Bewegen toch? :D )

LOL Vibrate= trillen ;)
08-23-2004, 04:26 AM
Boyne7

dang, nice clocks with that 3400+ and mach1 amazingly nice clocks.....
08-23-2004, 05:37 AM
kakaroto

Re: ?

Quote:

Originally posted by Raphaug
I see that you they have the spesific lenghts in inches(1/4")
But Im form norway, and here we only use Centimeters(cm) :slobber:

can anyone tell me the spesific lenghts of the mounting plate on top of the evaporator in centimeters?(cm)

Im planing to make my own allredy tomorrow.

:D

Very simple, find on the internet what one inch is.
Here is a list to make it easier.

IN mm

1 = 25.400
2 = 50.800
3 = 76.200
4 = 101.000
5 = 127.000
6 = 152.000
7 = 177.800
8 = 203.000
9 = 228.000
10 = 254.000
11 = 279.400
12 = 304.000

24 = 609.000

1/2 = 12.700

1/4 = 6.3500
3/4 = 19.0500

Good luck, show us some pics :D
08-23-2004, 01:41 PM
CrashOv3r1De

Nice! what ram and vdimm? Vdimm mod?
08-24-2004, 08:07 AM
kakaroto

Quote:

Originally posted by CrashOv3r1De
Nice! what ram and vdimm? Vdimm mod?

thnx :d

HyperX PC3200 BH-5 327WF 3.4v
I dont know why so much Vdimm, on the SHuttle AN50R i only need 3.1v :mad:

Yes, vcore and vdimm modded :)
08-26-2004, 11:31 AM
kakaroto

Still pushing.
Closing CCC by 0.01s :D

http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/A64_34...st_3.04GHz.PNG

Mem: 276MHz 2-2-2-5 1T @3.42v

Finally also hit 29SEC superPI 1M :banana:
Very difficult to hit with 512KB...must hit insane mem speeds to compensate 1MB and Dual channel.

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