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I'm gonna post a poll for ppl with X800Pro VIVO cards that have succesfully flashed their bios to enable the 4 "missing" pipes.
Please vote "yes" or "no" to the succes rates as well as card manufacturer.
I'll start:
Manufacturer: PowerColor X800Pro VIVO
Bios Used: Gigabyte Bios
Successful: Yes
Mfg. : Powercolor
Bios : Gigabyte
Successful : yes, need'd a vgpu pencil mod to 1.36 to get 520/560 stable. now at 1.41
Is it just me or are there only 8 owners of X800Pro VIVO cards??
Hope I'm not asking too much for replies with manfacturer details...
So far, I know there's Gigabyte, PowerColor, Sapphire cards.
C'mon guys, help us out in deciding which cards are the gems...
Cheers to those who've replied...
Minnyboy
HIS Excalbur X800 Pro IceQ II
Core 520
Mem 560
Just so I can join in
Power Color X800pro w/ Vivo purchased from MWAVE.COM
Core: 540
Mem: 620
Bios: 1st Gigabyte, 2nd stock X800pro, 3rd X800Xt rev01
Success :toast:
Judging by the results, the VIVO are the ones to get imo.
11 out of 12 so far, beats the hell out of the hardmod way.
Especially here in OZ where the PowerColor VIVO versions are the same price as the "normal" version.
Maybe this will get ppl's attention as what to get...
Cheers fellas.
Hope this helps would be buyers.
Minnyboy
So who failed this mod, and what were they smoking at the time ?
for one of my friend the mod work....but the card wasn't stable at 470 on gpu with 16 pipe :(
enabling the extra 4 pipes is what the vote is about, not XT clock speeds...
So now there are 2 votes for no, but nobody has posted their results ?
No telling. These cards are obviously failed X800XT's. They failed for a reason, which is why some of them are going to fail the bios flash.
I don't think any of them are actually 'failing' just not working at xt stock clocks. Not that that matters, because even downclocked the xt beats the pro.
If you vote fail, please post on the subject.
some are im sure. but not as many as are have'n problems at xt clocks. im sure a good chunk of the people not clocking to xt speeds have low voltage to there gpu like my card. did 517/570 at 12 pipes and 507/570 at 16 pipes. at 1.32vgpu, many pro's and all xt's ship with 1.4ish volts. my card did 520/560 perfectly stable at 1.36, and i can overclock to 540/570 on the GB bios with 1.41v. and its a simple mod.Quote:
Originally posted by pkrew
No telling. These cards are obviously failed X800XT's. They failed for a reason, which is why some of them are going to fail the bios flash.
Dont get me wrong, I'm not saying these aren't worth buying, I'm just saying that these cards were intended to be x800xtPE's, but for some reason were downgraded to pro's. This is why they have 1.6ns ram and why they have the vivo onboard. Some may have dammaged pipes. Also, from what I've read, they don't seem to oc as well as an XTPE or a pro. If that's the case they will probably be quicker in am3, 2k3, but maybe actuall slower in 2k1. still, I think they're a good deal and worth going for.
im not imply'n that you think there a bad card/bad deal. i just dont see this many x800xtpe's failing thats all.
Maybe true, but they do seem to be having trouble getting xtPEs to market and this is very similar to when saphire sold downgraded 9800xt's as 9800pro's 256mb. Anyway, its not worth worring about at this point
well if it were a problem with the cores they would be binned prior to final assembly. And wouldnt get 1.6ns gddr3 ect ect. hell under my powercolor x800pro sticker on the hsf is a x800xtpe sticker.
x800pro non vivo's also mod but require a hardmod. Ati laser cut the cores to disable the 4 pipelines so there x800xt's didnt loose value. Granted some of them dont work but the fact that they not all of them fail to mod seems to show that at the very least if a core is bad its more than likely to loose more than 4 pipelines than if it doesnt meet the clock speed at desired voltage. This is also the reason i believe we have not seen x800se's. if they were have'n problems with the cores these would be out allready. The reason the vivo's all softmod and have 1.6ns memory at this time is because all xtpe's have vivo. I dont think at this time in the x800 product cycle they can afford to take a x800pro line and convert it to make x800pro vivo's. But they could afford to take x800xtpe's that for whatever reason didnt pass spec add to it limited runs of perfect x800xtpe's to create some volume and softmod out 4 pipelines just like on the 9500np's and sell them as x800pro vivo's at a slight markup over the standard pro model. Up till a couple of weeks ago no one was spending the extra 30 bucks or so over a allready marked up x800pro just for vivo. So it took a while for these cards to sell. Now that there going out of stock there not come'n back in stock very quickly. I'll be willing to bet that once the current stock is out of these vivo's future vivo's will not be moddable other than the odd xtpe that doesnt pass spec after final assembly. In the grand scheme of things not many vivo's have been sold compared to the number of x800pro's that have been sold or the number of xtpe's that are ordered.
And i believe the reason some of the late 9800pro's came with r360 cores is because ati configured there r350 lines to r360 cores. If yeilds on the r360 were low there would be now way you would see a r360 core capable of doing 430+ on a $200 dollar card and it wouldnt make sence to stop production on r350 cores if that were the case. Then very very few R360 cores in 9800pro's would overclock worth a damn and it wassnt the case even tho they didnt overclock quite a far as the newer R350's due to process refinements. If yeilds were high it wouldnt make sence to keep 2 diffrent but essentialy the same cores in production at one time.
Just my personal theory on the subject.
Wow, you have a xtpe sticker under your pro sticker and you're stll arguing this. The vivo's don't have the laser cut of the pro's because that's how the xtpe cores get manufactured by ati. Ati sends them to saphire, powercolor, etc, who don't have the capabilty to alter the core once they have it and they assemble the cards. They test their xtpe's and maybe some are a little unstable at 520/560 or there's a flakey pipe. No worries, the pro only has 12 pipes and clocks at 475/500. They flash the card with the pro bios and sell it as a vivo.
You need to read the thread about saphire rebadging 9800xt's as pro's. They were indeed failed xt's and didn't clock as well. Some became unstable after flashing to xt, but they were identicle to 9800xt's, same core, same memory, same pcb. The pcb of a 9800xt and a 9800pro are different.
Either way, its still a good deal and worth getting.
Club 3D Radeon X800 Pro VIVO running 16 pipes @Ati bios default clocks (c526/m573 )without problems.
Bios: 1st Gigabyte, 2nd Ati
Just installed the latest 4.7 officials & man that was bad...
With the 4.6's I noticed minor artifacting at 580-590 vpu/mem but now it's like as soon as I hit the "set clock" at 560/80 I get the worst artifacts ever...
Anyone else with similar problems??
BTW, my VPU is like 25c (32c Celsius under load) so heat ain't a prob...
Oh well, might have to go back to the 4.6's... The 4.7's are better for 3D03 but hey, at least the 4.6's allow me to see the screen...
Minnyboy are you set clock both core/mem at same time ? tried setting mem first then core clocks ?
Success!
PowerColor X800Pro w/ VIVO
Flashed to the Giga-Byte BIOS, gonna flash back to Pro and then XT-PE tonight.
That's what I did. Reverted back to the 4.6's & getting through 3D03 at 581/181 w/out any artifacts at all.Quote:
Originally posted by eva2000
Minnyboy are you set clock both core/mem at same time ? tried setting mem first then core clocks ?
Can't beleive myself, had the card for over 4 days & haven't fully unleashed my rig...
Running a pitiful 240fsb 1:1 w/ 1GB Ram 'cos I'm limited by ram & it don't like dividers....
Enuff of this, shutting down & getting my 2 x 256MB BH5's out...
Back soon,
Minnyboy
where should i get a vivo from?
Sucsess.
Shappire X800pro VIVO with 16 pipes.
running 505/580 without artifacts (it did 505 as max before the flash to :confused: ) 1.4 Volts as default.
I have a Sapphire X800 Pro with TV-out I flashed the card but it thinks it has vivo and keeps locking up and corrupting windows when it installs is there anyway to flash it and keep it regular tv-out?
Powercolor X800 Pro Vivo Success to XT. Who are those that said no? I think all vivos work.
Newegg probably has them in stock as well as most of the big-name retailers. Just make sure that you're getting the VIVO & not just the standard version.Quote:
Originally posted by Cow2kie
where should i get a vivo from?
As for the failures, I wonder why the ones that have failed haven't posted about their card...
Or is it a case of "let's just fark up the vote"??
Cheers,
Minnyboy
Manufacturer: gecube X800Pro VIVO
Bios Used: Gigabyte bios
Successful: Yes
Clocks: 550/610 stock cooling 16 pipes, 564/615 stock cooling 12 pipes
are the vivos ocing just lie xts?
I don't know, but I don't see why not.. they are the same hardware.
If they come down to 335 like the PNY 6800GT i found ill jump on it but i guess it wont :(
X800 pro vivo Powercoler ( shapphire XT PE Bios )
i needed v-mods to run 560-577.
Gpu 1.55 and mem 2.08
Running cat 4.7
Gonna try gigabyte bios today and the 4.6 drivers.
Another success here with a Powercolor :)
can u run the 520-570 @ stock card ? and have u bios modded the card ? and if what bios are u using ?Quote:
Originally posted by Cactus Jack
Another success here with a Powercolor :)
I can run 520/570 at Pro spec and at XT spec :DQuote:
Originally posted by Astennu
can u run the 520-570 @ stock card ? and have u bios modded the card ? and if what bios are u using ?
I used the Gigabyte bios and then used the XT bios from Paddy007s "how to" page.
I'm thinking of hooking the cooler fan upto the 12v rail as it never seems to spin up too high and this card does get very toastie when running DX9 apps, much more so than running DX8.
can you give me a link 2 the how2 page ?Quote:
Originally posted by Cactus Jack
I can run 520/570 at Pro spec and at XT spec :D
I used the Gigabyte bios and then used the XT bios from Paddy007s "how to" page.
I'm thinking of hooking the cooler fan upto the 12v rail as it never seems to spin up too high and this card does get very toastie when running DX9 apps, much more so than running DX8.
I must get higer speeds than thost 560-577 with v-mods.
Manufacturer: Sapphire X800 Pro VIVO
Bios Used: Gigabyte Bios
Successful: Yes
Made 30.5k in 3DMark2001 with card at default X800 XT PE clocks. :D
HereQuote:
Originally posted by Astennu
can you give me a link 2 the how2 page ?
I must get higer speeds than thost 560-577 with v-mods.
Woot, woot!!
Looking good there fellas.
2 unflashable against 23 that are.
The odds are looking so much better atm.
For those who aren't clear as what to do, go to OCFaq & d/load the flashrom (latest) as well as the ATI X800XT PE bios & there are links on this page to get the Gigabyte X800XT bios as well.
There are some good how-to's here as well.
It's good to see ppl being helpful.
/slaps himself for thinking bout getting another one to replace 9800XT...:D
Minnyboy
anyone tried this with an actualy Gigabyte X800 Pro VIVO since the Giga XT BIOS is the popular one???
oooh thx pkrew for the explenation, if they were failed or unstable cores...isn't it always 100% of sucessful flash rate?
Manufacturer: Sapphire X800Pro VIVO
Bios Used: Gigabyte >- Sapphire Bios
Successful: Yes
Overclocks on waterblock 525/595, temps not reason for holding card back, me thinks there is overcurrent protection on these cards. Poorer cores leaking more current as clock speeds go up, even whislst temps good, leading to freezes, drop out etc.
Card now dead, turned computer one morning kept tellimg me power cable not plugged in, tried 2 diff PSU, defo card, not seen this be4 on X800 cards. Checked solder joints on card, looked fine. Card sent back no ETA for replacement.
Same that happend to my first Sapphire X800 Pro VIVO after a few hours of service. Sorry for your loss... :(Quote:
Originally posted by mongoled
Card now dead, turned computer one morning kept tellimg me power cable not plugged in, tried 2 diff PSU, defo card, not seen this be4 on X800 cards. Checked solder joints on card, looked fine. Card sent back no ETA for replacement.
Really? That actually makes me feel better that it was nothing in my system that caused it.Quote:
Originally posted by Kamerat
Same that happend to my first Sapphire X800 Pro VIVO after a few hours of service. Sorry for your loss... :(
Thanxs dude
:)
Yes, died the same day I got it. The replacement works like hell but not the best overclocker, makes XT PE speed but that's it...Quote:
Originally posted by mongoled
Really? That actually makes me feel better that it was nothing in my system that caused it.
Thanxs dude
:)
What exactly happened when it died ? i was running 1.6 vcore in the beginning now @ 1.5. If i read this i'm thinking i was verry lucky considering i was running it on air and stock cooling.Quote:
Originally posted by Kamerat
Yes, died the same day I got it. The replacement works like hell but not the best overclocker, makes XT PE speed but that's it...
Didn't do anything, it refused to boot after I put my new rig in the Vapo....Quote:
Originally posted by Astennu
What exactly happened when it died ? i was running 1.6 vcore in the beginning now @ 1.5. If i read this i'm thinking i was verry lucky considering i was running it on air and stock cooling.
Club3D x800 pro vivo flashed to gigabyte bios. 16 pipes baby! I knew it would work, but damn I'm still excited!! :banana: :banana: :banana:
Can game with Far Cry and UT2004 no problems for now. Weird thing is with atitool, the clocks are pushed down to remain artifact free. I ran it for half an hour and downclocked the xt speeds to 495/550. Will try the original xt bios for more stability.
Benched with 3dmark03, got slightly over 12000 with 2.5Ghz barton. Not bad. :toast:
UPDATE: did pencil mod and original xt bios update (not very helpful). Checked out the original vcore, my cheapass multimeter (mastech m-830b from maplins(UK/Ireland peeps)) read 1.39v. So i upped it to 1.45v. Tested with atitool. Ok stock xt pe speeds (tested for 7 mins). Looking for high core and mem now.
Another success here with a Powercolor
but , after a 10-15 minutes gaming in FarCry restart the comp , i am with water cooling , and thye temps are prety low... so there is some other problem .....
The "NO" votes are concerning me, Do you think it's just a bunch of fools that try's to ruin the card good name? :(
Because I must 100% sure all VIVO cards all moddable.
I'd guess the no-votes are for that reason and people screwing something up...
never underestimate human stupidity
You mean doing something wrong with the flash process?
Right, they thought they flashed it correctly, then saw they still had 12 pipes and said doh, it doesn't work. :D
A thought came in my mind... Do you think guys that GigaByte X800Pro card will OC / perform better after the flash than other brands? (Because of the Gigabyte BIOS) BTW Gigabyte's stock cooler owns all others :D
Don't think so. I think its based on a ati bios only with some minor ajustments.Quote:
Originally posted by Mariachi
A thought came in my mind... Do you think guys that GigaByte X800Pro card will OC / perform better after the flash than other brands? (Because of the Gigabyte BIOS) BTW Gigabyte's stock cooler owns all others :D
Well I just recieved my Club3D X800Pro Vivo and I discovered that the babe on the cooler was actually a sticker. I removed it and behold The Tauren :D saying Ati Radeon. Just like those review models, so no X800 on the cooler. I even have a purple power connector.
Now it looks like this:
http://members.home.nl/paul.nijpels/X800XT.jpg
I made a backup of the original bios, flashed the gigabyte one followed by the X800XT PE bios. And everything is working smooth, 520/560Mhz no artifacts.
It doesn't look like a VIVO :confused:
=STE=BloodAngel,
I think that's the same sticker underneath my my second one.
That card is the exact same card as mine. Just add a fake "brand's" sticker on top & there you have it, a Sapphire/PowerColor etc X800.
On a diff topic, I just vmodded my card & tested it.
So far at 1.5vgpu & 2.1vdd.
Add the extra volts & still no higher than I was before.
Might give it a bit more time to "burn in" before I hand it more volts.
artifacts galaore here when I try any more than 600/600.
Bummer. Need a 3rd one... Just got rid of my 9800XT & am stuck with a GF4 MX440 SE... Hot Damn!!
Thinking hard bout getting another one or whether to wait it out for a proper X800XT PE & hope that it'll OC better as this one ain't doing so good.
On water too, 38C is all I've seen so far after a benching seesion but still no good for any higher OC's...
Oh well, at least I got an X800XT PE huh??
Cheers,
Minnyboy
Mariachi,
Only VIVO/X800XT have that yellow connector near the 12v one.
Just have a look closely at your card.
That was msiing from my first X800Pro
So what is the Purpule connector on that PowerColor X800PRO VIVO?
http://images10.newegg.com/productim...131-246-06.JPG
If I'm understanding you at all Mariachi it's the YELLOW connect that signifies the VIVO cards
seems like mostly all brands mod, however, what brand clocks better?
Atm I can only see a PowerColor available in the UK for £298.
Theres a x800pro for £260 here, but they can't be flashed can they?
Think I might pick up one of these cards if the mods are looking as good as this when I wanna buy, do these beat the 6800GT's or are they worth getting over this?
Bloodangel, can you run atitool and see what your max core and mem are without artifacts. I could run 520/560 on my Club3d x800 pro vivo flashed to xt pe no probs gaming, but atitool says different and keeps pushing it back down to 490/550. Eventually bumped it up to 1.45v for 520/560 stable with atitool.
Oh ye also. Does it have to actually say, "VIVO" cause I see some cards saying, DVI VO.
Again, is one of these cards @ 16 pipelines a worthwhile purchase over a 6800GT?
Yes it does have to say VIVO.Quote:
Originally posted by The Runner
Oh ye also. Does it have to actually say, "VIVO" cause I see some cards saying, DVI VO.
Again, is one of these cards @ 16 pipelines a worthwhile purchase over a 6800GT?
DVI VO is only the "normal" X800Pro.
If you see DVI, TO, VI then it's VIVO.
DVI, TO (TV out), VI (video in).
As for atitool, the majority of the times, atitool will underclock your card by so much it ain't funny.
I suggest running FarCry, UT2004 or any graphics intensive games for an hour or 2. If it artifacts then downclock your card, if not, it should be okay.
Nothing like real-world testing to find the limits of your OC.
Cheers,
Minnyboy
Sapphire x800 VIVO....worked for me. :D
Haven't checked clocks yet, I ran it up with 12 pipes and hit 540/562 individually in AtiTool. 16 pipes should bring that lower I'd think. FWIW, original bios, gb bios, and xt bios all measured 1.39V core and 2.0V mem while in Windows. :confused:
edit to add: runs XT clocks just fine, but not much more with the stock cooler. I'll try to find time to fix that over the weekend.
Another PowerColor X800Pro comin 2morrow.
Hopefully it'll clock a bit better than my first VIVO.
US$497. Not bad considering they're retailing here for US$541.
That's AUS$685 compared to AUS$745 that they're selling for Australia wide.
Looking forward to add another one to the succesfully flashed list.
Cheers,
Minnyboy
I got my Club3D X800Pro Vivo for 435 Euro's, don't know how the Euro compares to the Dollar nowadays.
Got my Club3D X800Pro VIVO today :), jumped directly to flashing the board, and it worked! :0).
It's running real nice at X800XT stock speeds, wont try to overclock before i mount a watercooling system on it.
Do you think sometime ATi will detect these moddable cards and core-lock them? So we won't be able to mod them even if they're VIVO?
I guess its just a case of getting the cash now, I'll report back when I decide on what card to pickup. I'm curious of the gigabyte card.
Yeah, i'm gonna pick that GigaByte... much bigger stock cooler thna all other PRO's... (and the flash bios is GigaByte's, so maybe better clocks? just superstitions... ;))
X800 Pro w/ VIVO bios thanks to GazC.
Got myself a new card as I said in my earlier post.
Got home, put it in & tested it to run at X800XT speeds.
It ran alright so I rebooted & flashed the bios.
Instead of keeping the 4A49 (X800Pro) or 4A50 (X800XT) ASIC number, it changed it to 4A48 which I think is an X800SE bios.
No matter what I did, it wouldn't change the ASIC number to 4A50.
Even flashing to my "good" X800ProVIVO bios would change the ASIC number to 4A48.
With the 4A48 number, booting into WinXP & trying to re-install 4.7's would give me an error saying that the card is not supported.
I haven't checked the codes on the core or to see if there's the tell-tale laser-cut between the bridges. Don't know whether I should or not as I wanna return the card.
Straight from the Distributor so I assume it's a brand new card, just off the production line.
So be careful, these new ones are NOT flashable to X800XT imho.
Another thing to note is that the 4 memory modules on the GPU side are 2ns ones whereas the 4 on the backside are 1.6ns ones.
WTF!! :mad:
This sucks !!! but which card was it? PowerColor?
Maybe they're running out of 1.6ns memory, or they're using it for real XT PE cards :D
Yeah, PowerColor one.Quote:
Originally posted by Mariachi
This sucks !!! but which card was it? PowerColor?
Third time lucky?? NOT!!
Killed first card.
Second card a success.
Third card no luck. Box was mangled up too. Might give me a reason to return the sod.
I'm thinking the reason for this is that the X800XT are finally available in limited numbers here in OZ. Supplier told me that the first batches of X800XT PE & 6800Ultra had landed in OZ & were already sold out.
I'm thinking these sods, (manufacturers) are reading our froums & stopping end0users from flashing their cards by making a bios that if you attempt to flash it, it will change the ASIC number to something unrecognisable by the drivers & if you don't back up you bios, you're stuffed...
One Unhappy Camper,
Minnyboy
That's what I thought, see previous pages. I knew such thing could happen. 3rd gen. un-moddable. That's terribly bad, Because I don't want to buy a 6800/GT/U and the XTPE is too expensive.
maybe is makes it an x800 gt or what ever that new x800 is thats coming out. Supposed to be between the x800 pro and xt. 16 pipelines but lower clocks.
I bet it willl be much expensive than the 6800GT / PRO.
if they bring out a "x800gt" it will prolly be priced slightly higher than the 6800gt but the x800pro will be dropped in price to be a very attractive alternative to the 6800nu.
Shroomalistic,
AtiTool reports 8 pipelines...
When it was first installed, it showed 4 pipelines w/out any drivers.
Not too sure but think that not having drivers plays a big part in AtiTool not reporting the right pipelines.
Once the drivers were installed, it recognised the right pipelines (12).
I'm more inclined to think X800SE than X800 GT because if I'm right, an X800 GT is just an X800XT downclocked so it'd have the same ASIC codes, just lower clocks.
Cheers,
Minnyboy
Yeah Ati tool reported No pipes for me before I installed drivers so that figure may be simply arbritary.Quote:
Originally posted by Minnyboy
Shroomalistic,
AtiTool reports 8 pipelines...
When it was first installed, it showed 4 pipelines w/out any drivers.
Not too sure but think that not having drivers plays a big part in AtiTool not reporting the right pipelines.
Once the drivers were installed, it recognised the right pipelines (12).
I'm more inclined to think X800SE than X800 GT because if I'm right, an X800 GT is just an X800XT downclocked so it'd have the same ASIC codes, just lower clocks.
Cheers,
Minnyboy
I preseume you are going to RMA and keep your fingers crossed on the next one?
Fourth time lucky?:)
Gotta find a good enough reason w/out resorting to dastly measures.Quote:
Originally posted by Cactus Jack
Yeah Ati tool reported No pipes for me before I installed drivers so that figure may be simply arbritary.
I preseume you are going to RMA and keep your fingers crossed on the next one?
Fourth time lucky?:)
Just curious bout OverDrive support as I was thinking that ALL X800 cards supported OverDrive.
I've noticed that there are some cards w/out OverDrive support but haven't found out if OverDrive support is a "must" for X800 cards.
What's a good reason for RMA w/out having to resort to "the touch of death"??
Any ideas anyone??
Cheers,
Minnyboy
BTW, add one more to the total of the "unflashable/moddable VIVO's".
I dunno, 92.5% is pretty convincing ...
I think i'll save for XTPE (if i'll be able to find one).
Sapphire X800 Pro vivo
Gigabyte BIOS
succsess
I'm buying a new graphics card, choosing between these two cards:
MSI RX800 PRO-TD 256MB DDR 8X TV-OUT/VIDEO-IN/DVI
and MSI GeForce 6800 GT
both have about the same price.
So stock, the 6800 GT will be faster, but if modded to X800XT, the X800Pro would be a better choice ?
The card is a ViVo version, but haven't seen anybody here with an MSI, how big are my chances to succesfully mod this card ?
As of right now, the chances are 92.68% in your favor ;)
How much is the MSI btw ?
the X800Pro MSI is €460, the 6800GT €450.
Just ordered a Saphire x800 pro w/VIVO, I'll have some results when it comes in. It looks like the gigabyte bios is the one to go with. Is that correct?
I just bought the Gigabyte X800Pro-VIVO & the funny thing is it already HAD 16pipes enabled+16ns ram. Falshing to xt bios using Paddy's way didnt work.
ANyway i flashed it with the Gigabyte XT bios & its running nicly.
Looks like any bios that enables 16 pipelines is the one.Quote:
Originally posted by DeForce
Just ordered a Saphire x800 pro w/VIVO, I'll have some results when it comes in. It looks like the gigabyte bios is the one to go with. Is that correct?
Don't matter if it's Gigabyte or ATI X800XT bios...
Only difference is if your card can't handle the extra 6/20 core/mem, then the Gigabyte one is the way to go as it only runs 520/560 & the ATI bios runs 526/573.
BTW, checked the core on my "bad" X800Pro VIVO & here's what it say:
215RADCGA11F
GB8809.1
0422AA
It does NOT have the laser cut either so cannot be hard-mod into X800XT.
Tried numerous times to flash with X800XT bios & it keeps changing ASIC ID of the card so that NO drivers will recognise the card.
Minnyboy
Ati X800 GPU is working 1.402v ,If flash XT bois not run 520/560,I just v-mods GPU core voltage R1597(18B) use 2B pencil:
http://61.220.123.253/cpg/albums/use...e%20v-mods.jpg
meter survey R1597 0.416k£[,voltage is 1.402v GPU:530Mhz
0.413k£[ is 1.412v ,GPU:535Mhz
0.407k£[ is 1.432v ,GPU:540Mhz
0.397k£[ is 1.469v ,GPU:545Mhz
good lucky!!:banana:
johnnyliu3377, Welcome To The SickNess :rocker: :rocker:
My X800Pro (XT) runs 1.41v default.
Runs smooth at 598/596 at default.
When i pumped 1.57v Vgpu & 2.17Vdd, I only got an extra 10mhz core & 5mhz RAM:mad:.
That's with the first revision WaterChill GPU block & nothing else using water.
Quite a bummer if you ask me. What was the point in modding it if jacking up the volts didn't do squat.
Temps are 32c idle & 37c load measured with the CP. My temp sensor shows 2c less.
Minnyboy
Dear Minnyboy:Quote:
Originally posted by Minnyboy
johnnyliu3377, Welcome To The SickNess :rocker: :rocker:
My X800Pro (XT) runs 1.41v default.
Runs smooth at 598/596 at default.
When i pumped 1.57v Vgpu & 2.17Vdd, I only got an extra 10mhz core & 5mhz RAM:mad:.
That's with the first revision WaterChill GPU block & nothing else using water.
Quite a bummer if you ask me. What was the point in modding it if jacking up the volts didn't do squat.
Temps are 32c idle & 37c load measured with the CP. My temp sensor shows 2c less.
Minnyboy
thanks a lot of!!
V-core
1.4v use aircooling
1.5v use watercooling
1.6/1.7 use phase change
V-mem
from 2.0v tot 2.2v (depends on the cooling what you use)
I'm use aircooling
johnnyliu3377
Two Phase PWM controller IC 5240MTC datasheets:
V-core is max.=2.0v :D
http://www.fairchildsemi.com/ds/FA%2FFAN5240.pdf
:toast:
johnnyliu3377
@ Minnyboy: Did you do the over-current mod as well? I didn't, but I still got a little better results then you. Mem sucked, same gains you see, core at 1.55V gained about 15MHz over def, noticed lots of "droop" when loaded. Down to 1.5V briefly during big loads. I'm hoping adding the 500k over-current mod will improve that, but probably won't try that if the benefit isn't there. PITA to get card in/out of system due to condensation-proofing.
I'm getting a gigabyte card soon.. You guys think it'll work?? I sure hope it does using the gigabyte utility.. i hope it works with their own cards ;0)
Didn't do the OverCurrent mod. Yet..Quote:
Originally posted by mikead_99
@ Minnyboy: Did you do the over-current mod as well? I didn't, but I still got a little better results then you. Mem sucked, same gains you see, core at 1.55V gained about 15MHz over def, noticed lots of "droop" when loaded. Down to 1.5V briefly during big loads. I'm hoping adding the 500k over-current mod will improve that, but probably won't try that if the benefit isn't there. PITA to get card in/out of system due to condensation-proofing.
As I'm "only" using H20, I didn't see the need as of yet.
Gotta get off my lazy ar$e & finish this Vapo Classic/GPU mod someday. Only been saying it since 9800pro days...
Gotta look at my recent results to see what my max were before/after the mods.
I've also gotta measure the mods whilst benching to see if I get the same droop that you're getting.
It's a pain in the a$$ trying to measure temps with my Vapo PE setup. Darn PSU gets in the way. As well as that Zalman bracket...
Starting to get the hang of soldering. Been testing it on my dead IC7-G & my soldering has improved so much it ain't funny...
Cheers,
Minnyboy