Its Alpha...But we have a PR and final units ready to ship real soon.
let me know what you think it does :)
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/a.leach80/guess.JPG
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Its Alpha...But we have a PR and final units ready to ship real soon.
let me know what you think it does :)
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/a.leach80/guess.JPG
- Increases Vdimm, or...
- Tests RAM
Close?
What would you hope it did?
I hope it would do one fo this:
- Increase Vdimm
- Find maximum NB overclock
- Test for RAM errors
- All :D
Edit: I've been stearing at the picture for like 20 minutes, nevermind if i post crap. :)
BTW, BT, if you want, you can PM me telling me what it is. That way, you let everybody else guess. :stick:
I think that it measures the Vdimm(the Volts are shown by the 2D dislpay) and propably increase it from the pot on the upper right corner.
It doesn't test ram...sorry on that one.
It will help make vdimm mods a thing of the past though ;)
It's ok, i'm not good at guessing. :(Quote:
Originally posted by bigtoe
It doesn't test ram...sorry on that one.
Neat. ;)Quote:
Originally posted by bigtoe
It will help make vdimm mods a thing of the past though ;)
But...isn't that encouraging OCZ customers to void their warranties? :D
Well yes and know..it works with other ram brands also..LOL
Yes, I remember this product being talked about before. Looks promising, however people were worried it might slow the performance down clock to clock. What results have the tests yielded?
:p:Quote:
Originally posted by bigtoe
Well yes and know..it works with other ram brands also..LOL
* Big and might take up 1-2 ram slots
* Performance ?
* Expensive ?
Other than that, might be promising...
Well i told you it was Alpha..the final is a little different to this, and should only take 1 slot.
The other unit we saw a few weeks back is not a patch on this...this unit will power 2 dimms and is NOT fed off a fan header which would blow in a matter of secs at extreme clocks.
Looks to me like it displays the (ram?) voltage. Guess it also supplies voltage as well?
Well BH5 loves it m8... but you need to keep it cool ;). Also you may have a board with no vdimm controll at all..this will give it to youQuote:
Originally posted by Jrocket
Yes, I remember this product being talked about before. Looks promising, however people were worried it might slow the performance down clock to clock. What results have the tests yielded?
I'm convinced :D Where can I get one ;)
Just tell us :(
Um, he has done that already.Quote:
Originally posted by Cucumber
Just tell us :(
Well i can post some more info.
The unit is fully Patent applied for and has been for quite a while.
It features vdimm control from 2.5 to 4.2v although we "may" limit the max a little lower.It reads applied voltage on the readout so you see 2.6 2.7 etc.It has full voltage filtering on the dimm so should actually allow the ram to clock higher.
Most boards have a resistor divider network for VTT so this usually tracks ok with this unit, however the IC7 as we know doesn't so you would need a VTT mod on this board. We have had VERY good results with the voltage modules and they have allowed us to max every IC we have thrown at them on most every board.
more importantly post some ram oc'ing results with it :D
So how does it work? You plug it into one of the RAM slots, and then it changes the voltage to all?....Or you plug the RAM into the device ??
Either way, looks wicked :D ...and if the RAM plugs into it, would it not also help the issue with onboard A64 mem controllers :eek:
up to 4v pleassssssse :p
*drool *
I agree with eminem... please!
Well Eva trust you to show up looking for benches..LOL
Its 4.2V max at the mo but things may change..we will see.
Results for me were i was able to hit 262fsb EB@2.5-2-2-5 on the P4C800E where i got 3-2-2-5 at 256 with 2.85V..so i maxed my dimms here.
I had OVER ddr600 with 4400beta at 3.4V and my BH5 gained 6fsb over their last max on unmodded boards.
I must stress my unit is Alpha and has no filtering on board so the new units will be a little better..i can and will mod my unit to full shipping specs so there will be more results soon.
The unit does take one dimm slot..the ram plugs in the board as normal as if it didn't trace lengths would be a mile out and no voltage would help the dimm clock.
The shipping units will be available for A64 boards also with the pot vertical etc so you should still be able to run 2 dimms.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/a.leach80/vdimm%20006.jpg
Another pic for you guys...as you see its fed off the ATX line.Final product will be neater of course...
So basically it plugs into an available dimm slot and overvolts to whatever u want for the remaining dimm slots?
those 3 heatsinks look awfully alot like the ones that are bundled with Vantec Copper Iceberq chipset coolers ? :)Quote:
Originally posted by bigtoe
Another pic for you guys...as you see its fed off the ATX line.Final product will be neater of course...
They were what i had lying around m8..nothing more..
looks awesome man, i think u should make it a wee bit more compact. extend the lin to the ATX plugin as some boards have em on the other side of the board from the dimm slots.
very nice. estimated time before retail ?
:slobber:
Any estimation for the final price?
Final design is done so...what you see on the final version will probably be what you get.
Price not to sure on yet....should be finalised in a few days.
One other thing, its worth cooling the unit. Ram takes a LOT of current and high volts just add to the heat.An 80mm quiet fan is all you need blowing cool air on it to keep it cool..nothing special.
Are you looking for "Beta testers"? :D I'd pick up the shipping costs. ;)
when you say you were able to push the ram further (262 over 256@2.85) how much extra volt are we talking about?Quote:
Originally posted by bigtoe
Well Eva trust you to show up looking for benches..LOL
Its 4.2V max at the mo but things may change..we will see.
Results for me were i was able to hit 262fsb EB@2.5-2-2-5 on the P4C800E where i got 3-2-2-5 at 256 with 2.85V..so i maxed my dimms here.
I had OVER ddr600 with 4400beta at 3.4V and my BH5 gained 6fsb over their last max on unmodded boards.
secondly, boards are gonna show up soon with 3.3v again and i'm just curious, is this products selling point that it will allow 4.0v etc or is it that it will give you a much cleaner volt to your ram and thus make it possible to get higher clocks with same volts, for example 3.2v
Cheers
What mobos are coming out a stock 3.3v ? :D
The idea is both , but if you have for example the ASUS P4C800 it already produces pretty clean power and the filtering alone will have very little effect.
:toast:
i guarantee you the A64 DFI boards will allow you 3.3v, just gotta hold on a while.... :banana:
Question on the ic7 compatibility.. just for clarification does the vtt still need to be modded if this is used in order for it to track correctly, or does this take care of that as well? Thanks :)
Quote:
Originally posted by bigtoe
Most boards have a resistor divider network for VTT so this usually tracks ok with this unit, however the IC7 as we know doesn't so you would need a VTT mod on this board.
Well that basically defeats the purpose of buying it, Im not gonna mod my own board so if I send it to hell fire or someone I can just have them do the other mods too....Quote:
Originally posted by Malves
Well if you mod board thats good to :) but then you are relying on the board to deliver the smooth power the dimms need to clock well.
Vtt mod is easy on the IC7..then just add the dimm to wind up the vdimm ;)
This is a MUCH better implimentation than that other board that came out that required that the ram be plugged into it. This board is basicly just like how we do the straight 3.3V line mod except this one uses the front of the board as opposed to the rear.
I'll be buying alot of them for all of my machines.
Hmm well i suppose it depends on cost, but I have to give you OCZ guys credit your coming out with a lot of good high end products now...Quote:
Originally posted by bigtoe
Well if you mod board thats good to :) but then you are relying on the board to deliver the smooth power the dimms need to clock well.
Vtt mod is easy on the IC7..then just add the dimm to wind up the vdimm ;)
Yeah, hows it work?
Does this help us do anything or than be lazy or does it do more? You hinted on filtering etc. I wanna know if it can save the lives of A64's!
I am also curious of how it works? is it fooling the ramslots or something?
Great to see more innovations from you guys though!
So it will be out soon? Awesome :D Does it draw off the 3.3V still or the 5V?
Its sending voltage to pins 1, 7 and 33 IIRC. Those are the pins that the ram gets its electricity from.
Theres no fooling or tricks done, its just overiding. I'm almost sure that if you set the mobo to put out 2.7V and you set this to put out 2.5V the ram would still be getting 2.7V.
Seeing as it is using 4-pin molexes for power I would assume 12v...Quote:
Originally posted by afireinside
So it will be out soon? Awesome :D Does it draw off the 3.3V still or the 5V?
Kinda of a drawback is the fact that if you have 4 slots in a dual channel config, you will be stuck with only 2 useable slots. Otherwise, looks cool!
However, VDIMM mods are usually so easy that unless this costs reasonable cheap - why would people buy it :) At least, people here, I mean.
because they dont want to vmod their board for warrant reasons, but maybe run 4x512 everyday and just 2x256 or 2x512 benching and isntalling/removing a vmod for everyday/benching use can sometimes be tricky (not all ram likes 3.3v+ ;) )? :D
I like the idea behind it.
Dam that is sweet, when will OCZ officially launch on thier website?
looks pretty cool.
What will the price be, roughly?
MMM I want one :D ;)
Does this still kill A64's like the high Vdimm from a vmod does? or does this filter it well enough that it doesn't damage the on-chip memory controller.
:thumbsup:
Damn.. that thing is sweet!! OCZ rules :slobber:
holykadoley, could u give us a hint when it will released?
If it will be out in a few weeks i could wait instead of pick the whole system apart to make the vdimm mod... (badly lazy):p:
Bigtoe: Could it be used in both 184 and 240 pin slots?
Please if you do limit it make it jumper moddable. I know the limits will need to be excedded.... always...or there would be no xtreme...Quote:
Originally posted by bigtoe
Well i can post some more info.
It features vdimm control from 2.5 to 4.2v although we "may" limit the max a little lower.
I think you could mod it pretty easy. But I'm sure there is also a good reason to make the limit 4V or 4.2V.....I mean I don't know to many other people who have run memory at over 4V...do you?Quote:
Originally posted by chilly1
Please if you do limit it make it jumper moddable. I know the limits will need to be excedded.... always...or there would be no xtreme...
Steve
Interesting thingy indeed :)
Sure it is BUT I must say that 90% of the vmods I've done are even easier.. ;)Quote:
Vtt mod is easy on the IC7..
So basicly this feeds the voltage into the memory. And the mosfets on board basicly get turned off, since the vdimm exceeds the set limit, so that current does not feed back into the board.
@ bigtoe:Quote:
Originally posted by sandman
Does this still kill A64's like the high Vdimm from a vmod does? or does this filter it well enough that it doesn't damage the on-chip memory controller.
Yeah, that's the question who everybody with an A64-system wanna know ;)
cause, if it doesn't damage the MC, you'll make a hell of money with that thing ;)
(did you ever test it with an A64-sys ?)
There will be a PR on Tuesday next..pricing will be fixed next week also.
It only applied vdimm and vref as far as i know..VTT is still controlled by the board but does track correctly on many boards.
I will try mine on A64 but i will need to mod it first...i need the pot to be vertical and the molex lines foul the other dimms.
Also this is fed off the ATX connector, don't be fooled by the molex lines....the final version WILL look different to mine.
We have discussed ways of allowing more than 4.2v for you Xtreme folks..you will need to stay tuned for that one ;)
Macci..how may boards do you refuse RMA at your store as some one has soldered on them??..not all are as good as you with a soldering iron.Quote:
Originally posted by macci
Interesting thingy indeed :)
Sure it is BUT I must say that 90% of the vmods I've done are even easier.. ;)
Haven't seen one yet. Vmodding ain't that common I guess.Quote:
how many boards do you refuse RMA at your store as some one has soldered on them?
The point in my post was that the particular Vtt mod you mentioned ain't the easiest to do (requires cuttin a trace) - and if its required in order to use this Ramvolt thingy it kinda defeats the purpose - in this particular case.
Now all we need is other to follow OCZ... with like a Moderboard with no change in vcore ;P
Don't you still need the vtt mod if you want to run high vdimm with the regular vdimm mod? I think what he was saying is that the IC7 doesn't track the VTT along with the vdimm so if your going to run high vdimm (no matter how you do it) you'll need the VTT mod (I'm sure you know all this :toast: )Quote:
Originally posted by macci
Haven't seen one yet. Vmodding ain't that common I guess.
The point in my post was that the particular Vtt mod you mentioned ain't the easiest to do (requires cuttin a trace) - and if its required in order to use this Ramvolt thingy it kinda defeats the purpose - in this particular case.
Steve
macci, i'd guess with 775 not long off, well, who will care about the ic7 and its messed up vtt? If most other boards can cope with it fine, it means no mods at all, which for some is good. I for some reason, have shakey hands, i guess from caffiene induced frenzyness(i hope :p ) but i still ain't got almost any spare time, and i'm pretty sure this will always be faster and easier.
But when, WHEN, will gfx cards come with bios changable voltage or variable pots that give very limited increase in voltages but enough to make a diff. I mean, ASUS make mobo's and let us use higher than warrantied voltages, why do they not have same kinda options on their gfx cards. Its really the next voltage to add to standard adjustments, we've had south, northbridges, and most of the rest we need.
Asus makes mobos that let you use higher then warrantied voltages because the things that are most likly to get cooked aren't theres. Asus doesn't care if you fry your ram, or your videocard, or your processor, because when/if you do its not like they have to buy a new one. Graphics card makers on the other hand have no reason at all to allow voltage adjustments. Even if they were to allow adjustable voltages it would be to the point where it'd be useless, because they'd be expecting every moron out there to jack up the volts on stock cooling and cook their cards and then rma them.
I can't see the pics.
edit: Nm they finally loaded.
Forgive me if this is asked already, as I really just skimmed.
Can it go into any ram slot? So Could a person use dual channel on say an nf7-s and then put this in the open slot?
this thing looks awsome, i might have to buy one.. i hope the price isnt too steep.
i will buy it, when it isn't higher set then 90-100$ :)
And when it doesn't kill the MC of the A64)
that thing is an famous idea
Genius! damn, wish i had that patent! :D
But why can't the module supply Vtt aswell? Is it not as simple as Vdimm and Vref?
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volcano vaporizer classic
Yup:toast:Quote:
Originally posted by Lithan
Can it go into any ram slot? So Could a person use dual channel on say an nf7-s and then put this in the open slot? [/B]
have you considered putting it directly on the ram's pcb (1 side with ram modules and the other with the goodies)? should provide for a cleaner feed as well...
could someone tell me, what vtt is ? :stick:
its like vref it has to be kept at half of the mem voltage. basically if you have your vmem at 4.0 volts, the vtt has to be at 2.0 v. if its still stuck at 1.45 volts your ram will not scale that well with the added vmem.
We have lots of idea's for feeding voltage to ram..this is just one of them.
VTT is the ONboard termination voltage..it doesn't go near the dimm..thats why you may still need to mod VTT in order for the higher vdimm to be ok ;)
so, now to the PR:
is it tuesday @ GMT ?
or is it on that tuesday when here in germany it's already wednesday ? ;)
What will it cost approx. ?
I'll defenatly get one of those for my s939 rig that I'll get this summer.
Good job!
As far as i know the PR is tomorrow with units fllowing shorly there after
Will it be available in Europe or US only?
hmmm....tomorrow right ?
goooood :D ;)
how i see, this board is @ GMT....only 2hours after germany-time :D ;)
so, what i'm wondering about is, that NOT EVEN ONE h-review-site has rumored about something like that :stick:
Mhh, have a look at you cp.Quote:
Originally posted by p4z1f1st
how i see, this board is @ GMT....only 2hours after germany-time :D ;)
bitte was :D
You can change the time offset in your control panel!Quote:
Originally posted by p4z1f1st
bitte was :D
damn, ur right :D
Nice invention!! :)
Why has no one else ever come up with something like this?
It will save the life's of many innocent motherboards i think, shame this wasn't invented earlier when everyone came close to pushing 4V through their BH-5 modules.
Now we'll have to wait and see how the new samsung chips respond to volts, it might make this device unnecessary although i doubt it.
Big question remains, will it save the life of the MC of our A64 chips while pushing over 3.4V through our BH-5 (we all have some left, haven't we? ;) )
If it does, OCZ got theirselfes one hell of a toy there. :cool:
i've heard that they'll cost around 45,49€... too expensive for me! i prefer to risk and do the vddim..Quote:
Originally posted by Arnar
What will it cost approx. ?
I'll defenatly get one of those for my s939 rig that I'll get this summer.
Good job!
_zZz_
Why don't OCZ get involved in the motherboard area?
I'd sure as hell buy a Intel/AMD64 mobo that cater's for the overclockers.
Mmmm.... High VCore and Ram voltage options by default.
I doubt they have the facilities to create motherboards.
Depending on the board, you may not be risking anything.Quote:
Originally posted by _zZz_
i've heard that they'll cost around 45,49€... too expensive for me! i prefer to risk and do the vddim..
_zZz_
This unit is not for the board modders..we know this.There will always be those who just add a pot and off they go.
Now there are some that want plug and play ;) this unit is just that. Plug it in and wind it up...nothing else to do!
Specualtion on price..all I can say is online it should not be to bad..nothing is fixed yet and im on the price fixing team so as soon as i can i will tell you.
How about this, everyone post what they would like the price to be, and we'll see what it ends up as... :)
@bigtoe,
You have a good point, bro, and I agree with that.
I really don't see myself getting this unit, but, if it takes care of the A64 MC, that'll sure be on my list when the time for upgrade comes.
Quote:
Originally posted by spaceman
Are you looking for "Beta testers"? :D I'd pick up the shipping costs. ;)
Ditto. :) And I've got a P4C Just Aching to beta test this sucker.:toast:
yeah but you were saying that it is BETTER than a vmod, it can provide a cleaner current than a mobo running out of specQuote:
Originally posted by bigtoe
This unit is not for the board modders..we know this.There will always be those who just add a pot and off they go.
Now there are some that want plug and play ;) this unit is just that. Plug it in and wind it up...nothing else to do!
not just that but it has no limits, you can leave your 3.3v line on the PSU just where it is and juice up the ram all your heart desires.
this unit strikes me as every bit as useful to the xtreme modder as it is to the "plug and play" overclocker
speaking of limits, you must have some sort of bypass for the limiter and imform us of it ASAP.
what happens when the mobo and memory manufacturers complain to you guys?
why would mobo manufacturers complain? all i can think of now is that memory manufacturers will start putting fuses that blow indicating voltage was too high and they wont accept RMA.
where is the PR ?!?! :stick:
all bigger review-sites checked but not even a rumor.... :( :confused: