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This OCZ Memory rules :eek: :p:
asbolutely fantastic!!! try to tighten those timings abit 300 1:1 3-2-2-5 would be so cool
Sandra with 312 MHZ
volts ?
amazing fsb, but 3-3-2-8, get those lower and youve got killer ram!
omg! :eek:
volts? Sounds like at least 3.6-3.8
Tighten the timings!
What will those run @ 2-2-2-11? 220mhz?
Incredible oc Evolution :thumbsup:
It would be interesting what this RAM can handle with tighter timings
Those seem like pretty damned tight timings at 626 Mhz guys
LOL
What voltage are you running
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Originally posted by ryanpgroovy
Those seem like pretty damned tight timings at 626 Mhz guys
LOL
What voltage are you running
Ryan, i love you for this Memory :slobber:
This memory runs this with 3,5 and 3,6 Volts
The memory does 3-2-2-5 til 295 MHZ, on Cas 2 the memory dont let me boot, but the memory runs Great with CAS 3 :banana:
295mhz or FSB?
Both...Quote:
Originally posted by AcEmAsTr
295mhz or FSB?
3.5-3.6v is a very good achievement considering the last BH-5 I saw at 300+ took 4v.
It makes me happy :-D
Last stuff I saw was at 301mhz, with like 4.3V or so and had a tornado blowing on it.Quote:
Originally posted by Soulburner
Both...
3.5-3.6v is a very good achievement considering the last BH-5 I saw at 300+ took 4v.
Me too :toast:Quote:
Originally posted by ryanpgroovy
It makes me happy :-D
Oh my dear lord, this is why i love this place.....any benchmarks other then Sandra?
You are good dude.....I love seeing :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: like this.
LOL:toast:Quote:
Originally posted by Spec3
Me too :toast:
incredible, holy sh*t !! :slobber:
i'm going to buy them in the next time :D
on which MoBo ?
and what its max on DC ?
Well it's an A64 board so there is no DC right now. Also it shows as an nf3 chipsetQuote:
Originally posted by p4z1f1st
incredible, holy sh*t !! :slobber:
i'm going to buy them in the next time :D
on which MoBo ?
and what its max on DC ?
Steve
omg i cant wait to get my 3700 EB!
Quote:
Originally posted by Soulburner
Both...
3.5-3.6v is a very good achievement considering the last BH-5 I saw at 300+ took 4v.
both???!
295MHZ = 147.5fsb
or 295mhz= 590 DDR
Yeah, I thought that was just assumed. ;)Quote:
Originally posted by sparkie34
or 295mhz= 590 DDR
oh right, sorry....i oversaw it, that it's "still" a S754 :D ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Spec3
Well it's an A64 board so there is no DC right now. Also it shows as an nf3 chipset
Steve
i'm just planning my coming S939-System the whole time :D
EDIT: wasn't a high VDimm killing the HT of the A64 ? (and so the cpu)
wonder how long the ram will last at that kind of volts ;)
It'd be pretty funny if this is the stuff that caused prices to drop like a rock on BH-5, when the word gets out. Better sell your sticks on ebay now....lol
holy crap i wish my vacation is over right now so i can grab me a pair of those!! :D
and what a long vacation this will be....
Sweeeeeeeeeet. :slobber:
I hope this tech is for real, it's been a long time since some new memory came around and stunned everyone. Also I am tired of hearing about bh-5 when NOBODY SELLS IT !!
url please? :)Quote:
Originally posted by sandman
Last stuff I saw was at 301mhz, with like 4.3V or so and had a tornado blowing on it.
i know cpull does 300 in 1:1 with his bh-5
but 301 i don't know who is it?
:toast:
Please excuse the over-inflated Canadian costs right now but is this the stuff you've got cranked right now Evolution???
I'm sittin' on some OCZ (in sig) right now but I'd be more then willing to take a step "down" to some 3700 if most ppl are seeing nice OC results out of it.
yup, thats its.
www.memoryexpress.com or www.ncix.com might have better prices.
Memory Express doesn't have the same stuff, and NCIX actually ends up being $8 more expensive because their charges for shipping/insurance are different then Vibes.
I've got a bud that might be able to hook me up in the states though, 'cus he could just buy 'em off Newegg and I'd pay for shipping and the ram for him. It'd end up costing me about $572 off Vibe after tax/shipping but "only" $510 or so off newegg, including shipping.....after the currency exchange.
I MIGHT be able to work a 1GB kit of this stuff into my budget before the middle of September when I've got a LAN I'm going too, but with the 3.2C, h2O, and new video card on the way too it's kinda tought to say. ;)
Yes its this Memory :)Quote:
Originally posted by Cornelious0_0
Please excuse the over-inflated Canadian costs right now but is this the stuff you've got cranked right now Evolution???
I'm sittin' on some OCZ (in sig) right now but I'd be more then willing to take a step "down" to some 3700 if most ppl are seeing nice OC results out of it.
XtremeSystems inspired by xs.org :p:
I think we all know the basics of Double Data Rate memory here :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by AcEmAsTr
both???!
295MHZ = 147.5fsb
Quote:
Originally posted by -realEvolution-
Ryan, i love you for this Memory :slobber:
This memory runs this with 3,5 and 3,6 Volts
The memory does 3-2-2-5 til 295 MHZ, on Cas 2 the memory dont let me boot, but the memory runs Great with CAS 3 :banana:
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I think we all know the basics of Double Data Rate memory here
i swear youve got it in for me soulburner
303 1:1 with a 9 multiplier, 369 1:1 with a 4 multiplierQuote:
Originally posted by Facedeharicot
url please? :)
i know cpull does 300 in 1:1 with his bh-5
but 301 i don't know who is it?
:toast:
Jimmeny Christmas that's blazin' :slobber:Quote:
Originally posted by cpulloverclock
303 1:1 with a 9 multiplier, 369 1:1 with a 4 multiplier
Using the 4x multi your ram was only at 295Mhz :toast:Quote:
Originally posted by cpulloverclock
303 1:1 with a 9 multiplier, 369 1:1 with a 4 multiplier
4x multi is a glitch. 5 is the lowest that can be used so it's 369/5 *4=295FSB
Steve
I was just talkin' about that crazy FSB there, unless I'm just reading it WAY wrong. :p:Quote:
Originally posted by Spec3
Using the 4x multi your ram was only at 295Mhz :toast:
4x multi is a glitch. 5 is the lowest that can be used so it's 369/5 *4=295FSB
Steve
my best fsbQuote:
Originally posted by Cornelious0_0
I was just talkin' about that crazy FSB there, unless I'm just reading it WAY wrong. :p:
http://membres.lycos.fr/cpulloverclock79/391.5.JPG
the best on an A64 system by Kon3
http://magnumjp.com/Super_Pai/images/MAXGOGO/KON564.jpg
on a FX system by kaz-n
http://magnumjp.com/Super_Pai/images...2.9pai-39S.jpg
Dude, just looking at those pics and reading your sig brings a whole new meaning to that handle of yours.....
GOOD GOD MAN!!!!! :slobber:
EDIT: I'm not sure if this is the best place (forum) for me to be.....you have NO IDEA how much I want to run out and grab some new "toys" after seeing this whole thread.
Evil, evil and sneaky that multi is! But oh so great is the score!
No :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:.....got any comparisons in Sandra or 3DMark2001 for that FX-51??? Seeing as you basically kept the cpu and ram and stock clock (assuming thats PC3200 you've got in there) I'd be interested to see how much your scores skyrocketed with that massive 413MHz FSB. :slobber:Quote:
Originally posted by Crankster
Evil, evil and sneaky that multi is! But oh so great is the score!
That FSB is only to show a high FSB, its not made to get high performance. There are better settings for that.
Notice the weak Super PI?
Yeah, I know.....I'm not saying it'd be rank high performance.....I'm just curious is all. ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Soulburner
That FSB is only to show a high FSB, its not made to get high performance. There are better settings for that.
Notice the weak Super PI?
here are my 4 x multi Athlon 64 sandra scores while were at it
VERY nice.....now THAT'S what I wanted to see. :D
:slobber:
Lol... too bad it's a bug. ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Cornelious0_0
VERY nice.....now THAT'S what I wanted to see. :D
:slobber:
What are you getting at?Quote:
Originally posted by Shade00
Lol... too bad it's a bug. ;)
yeah 4x does weird stuff ,
"EDIT: wasn't a high VDimm killing the HT of the A64 ? (and so the cpu)"
yes and I can not afford to kill cpus. my friend eshbash killed his at 3.3v after a couple months. how high does that ocz pc3700 do at 3-2-2-6 at 2.9v? ras-cas delay MUST be at a 2 or I dont even want this ram, ill just go pc4000 and push her to 300+ fsb at 2.9v
as for 400fsb, if this is even possible, I will run 400x4=1.6GHz and have the fastest a64 around
Well as true to life or buggy as it is.....numbers are numbers.....and I'm still aloud to drool. ;)Quote:
Originally posted by ryanpgroovy
yeah 4x does weird stuff ,
Really crazy... i thought that HTT cant overclock much, but now :). OK going to buy OCZ and good MoBo
Heh, that's exactly the kind of feeling I get everytime I read a thread on these forums.....and it's gonna do me in sooner or later. ;) Not that that's a bad thing or anything. :p:Quote:
Originally posted by root
Really crazy... i thought that HTT cant overclock much, but now :). OK going to buy OCZ and good MoBo
No, you'd have the slowest A64 around.Quote:
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
I will run 400x4=1.6GHz and have the fastest a64 around
but 400fsb? how is it even possible to get 400fsb with 1:1 ram or is it a bug like someone said? anyway how does this ram do at 2.9v
It's a bug. The ram would be running 320Mhz (still amazing). But yea any multi with .5 or 4 give bogus results in 1:1Quote:
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
but 400fsb? how is it even possible to get 400fsb with 1:1 ram or is it a bug like someone said? anyway how does this ram do at 2.9v
Steve
@ -realEvolution- : are the RAM at 320MHz stable ? :D
and how high was the voltage ? 3,5V ?
302 MHZ and 3,5 V was the memory prime stable :D
very nice indeed.. just be careful the vdimm doesn't kill your A64 cpu!
Sorry to ask foolish questions but what mobo is everyone using for these outrageous FSB/HT speeds?
The Aopen AK89 Max? I'm seriously going to be upgrading my system after selling everything I own, I just need to know what's the best CPU/mobo combo for these speeds. Aopen AK89 Max with a 3400+ mobile DTR? Or should I wait for 939? I have no idea what the difference is though. I've been out of this for a while :p
k thanks
waiting for 939, i used on 754 always the Shuttle AN 50r :)
Anandtech just came out with its review of 3700EB. Link
New reviews are always good
Hi there.Quote:
Thanks for the link Sierra. =)
Uh oh, the secret's out. I recently came to the conclusion that they used Micron chips after a tested an older Buffalo stick with Micron... it ran up to 220/2.5-2-2-6/2.8v.
thats not really the secret
The secret is the spd + the good chips
What build process do the micron chips use, Shade00?
just read the chart, thats good ram but it runs ras-cas delay of 3 which takes a big performance hit compared to cas-cas of 2 anyway. also its $500+ for 2x512mb sticks, I can get better performance with pc4200 for less by running like 300fsb. youd need 270fsb at ras-cas of 3 to match 300fsb with ras-cas of 4! If thats not true, prove it to me then. eshbash has proved that you need 30fsb to make up for one higher latency in timings. 2----->3 costs 30fsb 300fsb with pc4200 is probably as good as 240fsb with bh5. 5:4 of 300fsb is 240 too.
You may have not read the review thoroughly, or maybe you haven't been following this RAM...but it will run 3-2-2-6 at high speeds with less volts than Winbond memory.Quote:
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
just read the chart, thats good ram but it runs ras-cas delay of 3 which takes a big performance hit compared to cas-cas of 2 anyway. also its $500+ for 2x512mb sticks, I can get better performance with pc4200 for less by running like 300fsb. youd need 270fsb at ras-cas of 3 to match 300fsb with ras-cas of 4! If thats not true, prove it to me then. eshbash has proved that you need 30fsb to make up for one higher latency in timings. 2----->3 costs 30fsb 300fsb with pc4200 is probably as good as 240fsb with bh5. 5:4 of 300fsb is 240 too.
And how many times do we have to go over the fact that 240 2-2-2-5 is faster than 300 3-4-4-8?
37 i believe is the magic number here :)
anyway Big Daddy Gee its the two numbers in the middle that make the difference, try it yourself.
Run Super Pi @ cas 2 then @ cas 3 .... report back the changes.
I thought he caught on a couple weeks back, but it seems he forgot or something :/
Clarification, i was under the impression that voltage fluctuations where the factor destroying A64s, not high Vdimm. Anyone?
Or he never caught on :DQuote:
Originally posted by STEvil
I thought he caught on a couple weeks back, but it seems he forgot or something :/
extrem high vdimms (upper ~3,5V) are a reason for voltage fluctuations in the HT-Part of the A64Quote:
Originally posted by Crankster
Clarification, i was under the impression that voltage fluctuations where the factor destroying A64s, not high Vdimm. Anyone?
Oops, you missed something. Trcd is not the only number going up. Trp matters just as match. So if you go up with those two numbers in the middle, you're going to need 360mhz with 3-4-4 timings to match 2-2-2 at 240 with BH-5. That's according to your calculations. So it looks like you're wayyyyyy off.Quote:
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
just read the chart, thats good ram but it runs ras-cas delay of 3 which takes a big performance hit compared to cas-cas of 2 anyway. also its $500+ for 2x512mb sticks, I can get better performance with pc4200 for less by running like 300fsb. youd need 270fsb at ras-cas of 3 to match 300fsb with ras-cas of 4! If thats not true, prove it to me then. eshbash has proved that you need 30fsb to make up for one higher latency in timings. 2----->3 costs 30fsb 300fsb with pc4200 is probably as good as 240fsb with bh5. 5:4 of 300fsb is 240 too.
If I were you, I'd start doing some listening. This very fact has been discussed numerous times.
:toast: :banana:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...146-985&depa=0Quote:
Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
also its $500+ for 2x512mb sticks
what am I missing ?
I am not sure maybe he means canadian dollars
Probably, being that he's in canada ;)
That really DOES sound like what he's talking about, because a 2x512MB kit of any kind of decent PC3200+ BH5/EB memory IS gonna run you over $500 right now. Silly Canadian dollar..... :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by STEvil
Probably, being that he's in canada ;)
eshbash has tested it out. the other timings matter very little. going from ras-cas delay of 2 to 3 costs 25fsb in performance. all the other timings combined only cost 5fsb. thus 2-2-2-5 at 220fsb was equal to 2.5-3-3-6 at 250fsb. not bad. 3-4-4-8 would need like 280fsb to be equal.
Just started playing with these 512MB sticks of OCZ3700EB on my K8N Pro mobo :)
Useing the min. Vdimm my mobo allows (3.27V) I'm at 285MHz 1:1 3-2-2-8-8-16 so far superpi stable :toast:
Lets see how it will do once I start pushing it ;)
Man, I'm going to have to try this EB stuff.
Macci, does the Cas 3 make much difference in your opinion?
OPP
As far as my testing goes CAS2 2.5 or 3 doesn't make any difference at all. I haven't done any clock to clock comparisons with these sticks yet but you'll see if its faster than BH5 in 3DMark ;)
(282x11 (CPU limit w/ 11x) 1:1 should give a nice improvement over my current score)
btw, superpi 1M passed at 291.5MHz 1:1 3-2-2-8-8-16 now - default heatspreaders no extra cooling..
Great stuff Macci!
OPP
Great results, I guess I will get some EB when I finally get A64, just sell away all the BH-5/6 before it drops in value to finance them. :)
Macci: How fast did you do you 1M Super_pi???
Heh, yeah.....I'm also dying to know. You have to tell us know.....or you'd just be being a big meany. ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Mini
Macci: How fast did you do you 1M Super_pi???
only testing the ram at the moment - low CPU speed. At 2063MHz (294.75 x 7 1:1) it gives 40sec =)
I'll start testing at higher CPU speeds once I find the optimal settings.
Lol... Almost as fast as me... 38 seconds here...
I made 36 but that was at 243fsb cuz the low time ram dont wanna go higher at 3.15V... :(
Cant wait to see it go higher :D
Excellent, keep up posted.Quote:
Originally posted by macci
only testing the ram at the moment - low CPU speed. At 2063MHz (294.75 x 7 1:1) it gives 40sec =)
I'll start testing at higher CPU speeds once I find the optimal settings.
Looks like this is the limit at this point for SuperPi 1M (Vdimm 3.33V, default heatspreaders):
http://www.akiba-pc.com/e107_images/..._295_spi1m.gif
It will do lower timings too :D
http://www.akiba-pc.com/e107_images/...2_2_6_7_16.gif
Nice work there mate :) I can't wait to get me some of this 3700EB once I get my next upgrade in 2months time :)Quote:
Originally posted by macci
Looks like this is the limit at this point for SuperPi 1M (Vdimm 3.33V, default heatspreaders)
-Lucus :)
Hmm, now I've gotta decide if I want the PC3500 or PC3700EB.....If I do end up getting the 3.2C that I want I'll only be running right around or above 250FSB.....so I'm thinkin' that the 3500 should do fine.
firstly i think :eek: to macci !!!
can you test this in a dual channel p4 system to see how far it will go in that.
Mildly amasing tbh !
I thought SuperPI is all about CPU power?Quote:
Originally posted by Soulburner
That FSB is only to show a high FSB, its not made to get high performance. There are better settings for that.
Notice the weak Super PI?
THE RAM GODS HATH SPOKEN!!!!
macci my son, you have been blessed with two gems from the RAM gods.....use them well. :toast:Quote:
Originally posted by hrhrhrfoot
THE RAM GODS HATH SPOKEN!!!!