This is what I got with the 6800U and A64 3200+ @ 2.55G.
The 6800U (and/or the 60.72 driver) seems to be optimized for DX8/9. Its scrore with 2k1 is not much higher than an overclocked 9800XT.
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This is what I got with the 6800U and A64 3200+ @ 2.55G.
The 6800U (and/or the 60.72 driver) seems to be optimized for DX8/9. Its scrore with 2k1 is not much higher than an overclocked 9800XT.
looks good
nice score for an overclocked 6800u. even in 2001 it should be higher than a 9800xt overclocked to 650MHz core. I heard 230fps nature stock without lodbias tweaks!
Hi,Quote:
Originally posted by HKY
This is what I got with the 6800U and A64 3200+ @ 2.55G.
The 6800U (and/or the 60.72 driver) seems to be optimized for DX9. Its scrore with 2k1 is not much higher than an overclocked 9800XT.
A nice score,
where you get this new baby??? :eek: :slobber:
What was your Nature score in 2k1?
2k1 should be at least 26k in your system (i'm talking bare minimum, run straight through).
man those clocks are so sick. an entire 93 mz's on the core and 2 of them on the mem! :lol:
If I tell you I'll have to kill you.....Quote:
Originally posted by TinTin
Hi,
A nice score,
where you get this new baby??? :eek: :slobber:
The 2k1 score was around 26.5k. From memory I think Nature was way over 200 (I've only run it 2 times).Quote:
Originally posted by Soulburner
What was your Nature score in 2k1?
2k1 should be at least 26k in your system (i'm talking bare minimum, run straight through).
I didn't pay much attention to 2k1 as its score was lower than my previous score with a 9800XT (with a 2.77G A64)
That 200mhz can make a huge difference on the A64 platform (you probably already know this). That card should be able to beat the 9800XT without a lot of effort. I saw 24k range for a stock card. Show me a 9800XT scoring 24k stock?
somethings wrong if a 16 pipeline cards getting owned by a 8 pipe card. that would be like me upgrading my ti4200 to a 9700 pro and scoring lower than my 16.5k in sig. god I cant wait to see knowlegable guys, especially Macci get their hands on one who know what they are doing. people that dont know how to bench get bad scores(aa/af turned on, settings on quality, etc)
that shouldn't be too hard with an xtQuote:
Originally posted by Soulburner
Show me a 9800XT scoring 24k stock?
Ok I think we can make an exception for a 4.3Ghz P4EE :DQuote:
Originally posted by oc-rookie
that shouldn't be too hard with an xt
Yes, I am sure that stock Vs stock the 6800 will be a lot faster than a 9800XT in 2k1. However, my main point is that the 6800, with its current set of drivers, is probably optimized for DX8/9, rather than DX7, which is used for most tests of 2k1.Quote:
Originally posted by Soulburner
That 200mhz can make a huge difference on the A64 platform (you probably already know this). That card should be able to beat the 9800XT without a lot of effort. I saw 24k range for a stock card. Show me a 9800XT scoring 24k stock?
it should still do dx8 very fast due to its 16 pipelines and huge fillrates which 3dmark 2001 loves. I am guessing that with even an overclocked a64 a huge bottleneck, the 9800xt and 6800u would get the same fps in every game test except for nature where the 6800u gets well over 200fps. this is where all the extra points come from. once we see what Macci can do on his 3+ GHz athlon fx, the gap should be HUGE
oops here's the 24k
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7799225
Soulburner you just helped me retrack my steps and figure something out.
:toast: for solving my riddle.
Also with a A64 FX at 3G:DQuote:
Originally posted by Soulburner
Ok I think we can make an exception for a 4.3Ghz P4EE :D
Don't kill me master!!!:eek:Quote:
Originally posted by HKY
If I tell you I'll have to kill you.....
Nice 3dmark03 score of course. ThinkI agree with you on the 2k1 score ie the drivers are optimised for DX8/9 shaders.
Actually nvidia drivers have been getting worse and worse for 2001, I had assumed as they had taken some optimisations out, but maybe it was just that they kept fine tuning them for DX9 and DX8/9 shaders and DX7 got stuffed.
Would still be interested in how this card performs with 44.03 and 52.16 drivers, if it does work with them of course.
It's going to be expensive if you need an Ati for 2001 and nvidia for 03, or vice versa ... $1000 :)
Regards
Andy
accroding to a review, the x800xt was only 1300 marks faster than the 6800u on an a64, but then the cpu may have been a huge bottleneck
The older drivers do not recognize the 6800U. My card doesn't work with 52.16.Quote:
Originally posted by zakelwe
Nice 3dmark03 score of course. ThinkI agree with you on the 2k1 score ie the drivers are optimised for DX8/9 shaders.
Actually nvidia drivers have been getting worse and worse for 2001, I had assumed as they had taken some optimisations out, but maybe it was just that they kept fine tuning them for DX9 and DX8/9 shaders and DX7 got stuffed.
Would still be interested in how this card performs with 44.03 and 52.16 drivers, if it does work with them of course.
It's going to be expensive if you need an Ati for 2001 and nvidia for 03, or vice versa ... $1000 :)
Regards
Andy
So, make it work ;)Quote:
Originally posted by HKY
The older drivers do not recognize the 6800U. My card doesn't work with 52.16.
Yes, 3D01 has gotten slower with the newer drivers but at the FPS we are seeing that isn't a huge concern. All of your DX7/8 games are still going to run 100-300fps range, and does losing 10fps really matter if the quality increases? They aren't concerned with that benchmark anymore if you ask me.
Quote:
Originally posted by oc-rookie
oops here's the 24k
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7799225
Soulburner you just helped me retrack my steps and figure something out.
:toast: for solving my riddle.
2900mhz @ 232fsb ;)Quote:
Originally posted by TinTin
Also with a A64 FX at 3G:D
13k 03 is quite nice, gosh i cant wait to get me either one of these or an X800
o m g, that video card ownz! 13k in 3dmark03, that's itself is worth the money. wonder if anygames would even use any of that power, since 3dmark03 is considered a synthetic 3d benchmark and not indicative of real world performance. Anyways, you are so lucky to have one. wish you can post some high quality pics of the 6800 ultra!
nice scores
24k is easy to do with the stock XT clocks. With An A64 3400+ @ only 2.5ghz 1:1 @ 2-2-2-5 scored 23k 01. When you clock the A64 even higher you will see the 24k. Unfortunately I do not have my 9800XT anymore. Waiting to get the Geforce 6800
Nice :)
How far did you overclock the 6800 in order to get that score?
it's safe to say not any where near yours Macci :)Quote:
Originally posted by Macci
Nice
How far did you overclock the 6800 in order to get that score?
updated news on 6800 ultra.
http://www.albatron.com.tw/english/n...asp?news_id=77
Albatron's GeForce 6800/6800UV vie for top spots in the VGA card market!
GPU has been clocked up to speeds of 600 MHz and the memory clock for the 6800 is rated at 700 MHz and the 6800UV is rated at 1 GHz
thats old news...as far as the 600mhz clock, that was done in labs by nvidia (theyve done this to every gpu chip they made, i believe the gf4s were up to 700 at one point)
albatron will be using a 400mhz core...
http://www.albatron.com.tw/english/i...asp?pro_id=105
700mhz on a G4ti?..... w o w.Quote:
Originally posted by gokickrocks
thats old news...as far as the 600mhz clock, that was done in labs by nvidia (theyve done this to every gpu chip they made, i believe the gf4s were up to 700 at one point)
albatron will be using a 400mhz core...
http://www.albatron.com.tw/english/i...asp?pro_id=105
well, sorry if it's old news. but for those who didn't catch it the 1st time. anyways, very promising info for overclockers with Prometia and vapo or dry ice coolers.
no way the NV25 was clocked @ 700MHz in the labs
if it scaled so well why was it only released @ 300MHz for the top tier card?
I agree, no way for 700. Even 450 would be very hard with a cherry picked chip and extreme cooling and voltage. That is a far cry from 700.
Wa, a lot of people from HK here now. Nice to see you Y, and TT of course.Quote:
Originally posted by HKY
If I tell you I'll have to kill you.....
It was 563 for GPU and 1.18 G for RAMs, wth stock cooling.Quote:
Originally posted by macci
Nice :)
How far did you overclock the 6800 in order to get that score?
Impressive Oc on stock cooling , but um-impressive scores. I think a P4 EE on Home XP with a modded vapo cooled G6800 ultra should easily get 600mhz and 16k+ in mark03. Athlons arent as good as P4 in 3dmark03.Quote:
Originally posted by HKY
It was 563 for GPU and 1.18 G for RAMs, wth stock cooling.
Sorry, typo, it should be 463 core.
563 on stock cooling... I almost fell out of my chair until you corrected that *only* 463. Good for stock though. Now lets see some phase change cooling on it. Hasn't anyone done phase change on NV40 yet?
Perhaps, later this summer nVidia will go back to TSMC for NV40 production and get slightly better yields (no geforce, I don't think 600-700Mhz will magically materialize for retail card).
umm.. reasonable score for yah overclock... I hope it would been better.
Um I think 13.6k is very good for the clocks, its still running below the stock X800 XT core clock and is ahead by a good amount.Quote:
Originally posted by Djuice
umm.. reasonable score for yah overclock... I hope it would been better.
Plus other LOD tricks of course and 1 million old sets of drivers to select from ;) :DQuote:
Originally posted by Soulburner
Um I think 13.6k is very good for the clocks, its still running below the stock X800 XT core clock and is ahead by a good amount.
That's why I love nvidia, you can spend countless hours either getting massive increases or absolutely nowhere !
I'm feeling pretty confident of nv40 in 3dmark03 now, I think 222 million transistors will love cold temps and I know IBM silicon loves voltage.
Regards
Andy
I am quite sure that the architect of the nv40 core is much more effecient than the R420 in 3DMark03. I am not so sure about the overclockability of the chip with phase change, as we know that the ATI core can probably be clocked quite high.
Ultimately it could become something similar to A64 Vs Prescott, higher clock, or higher effeciency?
http://www.albatron.com.tw/english/i...asp?pro_id=102
here is that link for a 600mhz core on a NV40. I wonder how they are getting 600 mhz on the core from the stock 400. That is a 50% overclock! Must be a typo. or nvidia has has pulled something out of their :banana: :banana: :banana:
Yea, I guess you are right. It can't be 600mhz, not without Vmod and phase change, at least.
If that was possible nvidia would crush ati.