Mobile 2600+ Results

Hi,

I recently recieved a 2600-M from Newegg, popped it in my system and here are the results:

- AMD Athlon XP-M 2600+
- AXMG2600FQQ4C
- IQYHA 0401UPMW

Cooling: Air, Swiftech MCX462-V w/ 92mm Tornado, fan-controlled @ half speed for general windows usage, full speed for Prime95/Games/Benchies.

Stock: 2.0GHz at 1.45v

Result: 2.7GHz at 1.85v; prime95 stable

Here's a few screenies to chew on...

http://gamers-syndicate.net/1.85v_2....me stable1.gif


http://gamers-syndicate.net/WCPUID_dashboard.JPG


http://gamers-syndicate.net/Sandra_2.7.GIF


As you can see it idles in windows with Tornado at half speed at 35°C. At full load (Prime95 specifically) it cruises up to 43°C with the Tornado turned up to full speed. Im very pleased with this result. After all, im on air cooling.. :)

I could get more, but at 1.95v and on my PSU cannot handle the voltage's at full load, and the rails drop to low. This obviously causes the system to reboot. I can do 1.90v stabally, but it won't yeild much, mabye 2.75 prime stable. So im stuck at 1.85v and 2.7 until I transfer my nice Fortron 530-watt over to this PC. But im sure I can get 2.8 prime stable ;)

All in all, i'd say this is a good chip. To say the least..

I'll be doing FSB clocking next. :cool:

wow!
:slobber:
got a PiFast??

C

Sure.. ;)

http://gamers-syndicate.net/PiFast_54.86s.JPG

Hey, that's my stepping!
Nice chip, eh? :smileysex;
I get same speeds. Up to 2.0 vcore (in bios) i cannot boot windows @ 2.8ghz :(
My fsb is a little higher though (dunno how high you're going) :D

AXMG2600 FQQ4C Y911792A40233 IQYHA 0401 UPMW

yup this is my stepping looks just like your does... mine isnt as nice as yours though. i can get 2700mhz at 1.95v and its not 100% stable... as far as 2800mhz goes it aint happening! oh well i was happy with it running 2600mhz at 1.75v and just being able to boot into windows at 2700mhz on air was worth it alone. besides i only ran this chip for a few hours before moving on to the new 64 rig i had just built so ill have to go back and put some hours on the thing maybe some breakin time well help it? that is if i don't sell the barton rig? well hey dude looks killer wish mine ran that good?

peace perc,

mmmm....

Wow, nice results. I'm tempted to pick one up. Do they seem to run cooler? I know they run higher on less volts, but compared to a normal Athlon.

nice oc :)

Very nice, dripping with jealousy here ;)

:toast:

Hey, I got the same week/stepping and I am priming now at 2.5ghz 217x11.5 with 1.775vcore, just used a multimeter to check vcore though and it seems like my real vcore is about 1.725-1.73. Very happy with this chip so far, maybe take it higher later but temps seem kinda high, around 50C loaded with nf7-s tictac d22 alpha2BKturbo bios. This is with slk-900a and TTsmartfan2 at full?? I am thinking maybe temps aren't correct.

this bios (Beta King Turbo) has "vcore adjustment" where max selectable in BIOS is 2.25v...
from my testing, 2.075v in D22_Alpha BK Turbo is nothing else that 2.15v in D22_Alpha (w/o "vcore adjustement"). measured with DMM at the mosfet shows 2.18v, though.

BTW, where did you take those vcore measurements with DMM? they seem kinda low for that 1.775 BIOS selection... i would be expecting about 1.9v...

that's my experience but not sure if this happens on every board with that modified Tictac's BIOS...

Well, turns out prime failed at 217x11.5 so I just went back to what I know was stable and that was 200x12.5. I measured the vcore on top leg of the lowest mosfet. It comes out to be about 1.724-1.738 or so under load when set to 1.775 in bios.

hey thanks guys :toast:

The mobiles run cooler for sure, at least at stock. I had 24°C idle in windows with the tornado at quarter speed (dead silent) and the stock 2.0ghz/1.45v.

So if your looking for a nice, fast, cool running chip, this is certainly the one. Oh and I think it might overclock?[/funny sarcasim] ;)

I don't know what it is about this chip, because I saw that a few of you guys had the same stepping with different results. I guess this definately proves that chip's with even the same stepping can yeild different results to anyone that didn't believe it. Also, I saw that people where having problems reacing high FSB's with these chips? But it seems that the majority of them are NF7-S users. Most of the Infinity users I've seen, seem to not be haveing trouble..can somebody confirm this?

Anyway...Like I said in my first post, Im sure I can hit 2.8ghz prime stable. I just need to transfer my Fortron 530 over to this system. It has moderatly better rails than this Antec True550.

Oh and to anyone on the fence about getting one of these chips. I'd recommend doing it. :D :banana: :banana:

gotta love those mobiles :D mine only does 2.6 with watercooling, but im having probs wit my board/ram so it will probably do more... stang_man tested it and got it to 2.7 on air as well, so it should oc a bit higher on water.

I need about 4 of these for folding... :p:

Congrats on that great cpu...

yup i forgot to mention the fsb problems i have with this cpu? seems anything over 220 and it falls on its face? i run the nf7 rev 2.0 and with my desktop 2500 barton i can run all the way up to 250 no problems at all pop the new 2600 barton molble into the same system and it wont do over 220 ??? that was the only thing that makes me like my older week 14 barton beter. other then that i would recomend this cpu to anyone.

peace perc,

yepp operc, habiong the same problem with my a7n8x rev 2.0 ...tried the 166fsb mod?

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Originally posted by saaya
yepp operc, habiong the same problem with my a7n8x rev 2.0 ...tried the 166fsb mod?

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no right now the barton rig is shelved :0( i needed the cd roms and video card out of that system to build the new 64 system. once i get another 9800pro and a dvd rom ill be back up and runnning with that system then ill try the pin mod. im sure thats all i need to do? i mean they are both bartons just one is a 266chip where as the other is a 333 chip you would think the 266 chip by nature would be the faster of the two when ocing the fsb? just seems wierd to me thats all? i know that each chip ocs differntly but to have one oc to like 2700mhz and do crappy on the fsb where the other is slower in mhz but faster in fsb ocs is puzzling? but then again im not the only one to have this problem so i gues the pin mod is the answer? i realy like that one idea of doing the pin mod on the underside of the mb! i just cant seems to get the damm wire to go into those holes when trying the pin mod using the holes? anyways when i do get it up and running again i will try the pin mod for sure. would love to have 2600mhz with a 466fsb!! that would for sure give my 64 system a run! infact i can see that system out running this one(at my current oc of 10x225) with the right cooling and oc! OH just one last question? what speed in mhz are these molblie 2600's?

peace perc,

yeahh.... nice job....

i wonder how could it be .... if i boost this cpu....
coz i live in bali-indonesia.... it'll be very hot due to the weather temp....

1.85v will boost my cpu temp to hell with air cooling only....

:( :( i don't use air conditioner in my room....

Well Im finished FSB clocking for now, got 242 FSB with an 11x multi. So im at 2.66GHz right now. It seems that only DFI Infinity users can get high FSB's with these mobiles with no problems and without doing an L12 mod. :(

I'll get pics up if anyone wants em.

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OH just one last question? what speed in mhz are these molblie 2600's?

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They run at 2.0GHz stock - (15x133, 1.45v)

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Originally posted by Dojo | Warlord
Well Im finished FSB clocking for now, got 242 FSB with an 11x multi. So im at 2.66GHz right now. It seems that only DFI Infinity users can get high FSB's with these mobiles with no problems and without doing an L12 mod. :(

I'll get pics up if anyone wants em.



They run at 2.0GHz stock - (15x133, 1.45v)

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thank you ive been searching high and low for that answer! so they are 2gigs 15x133 stock? what do the 2500's run at ?x133=???? just curios cause i got a friend who has the 2500 and he seems to think its 1800 but i know thats not true cause i got a 2500 desktop barton and its stock speed is 1800mhz. i would think the molblie 2500 would be more like 1960mhz or somthing real close to that right?

peace perc,

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Originally posted by Perc
thank you ive been searching high and low for that answer! so they are 2gigs 15x133 stock? what do the 2500's run at ?x133=???? just curios cause i got a friend who has the 2500 and he seems to think its 1800 but i know thats not true cause i got a 2500 desktop barton and its stock speed is 1800mhz. i would think the molblie 2500 would be more like 1960mhz or somthing real close to that right?

peace perc,

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You're friend is right, pretty much. The mobile 2500+ runs at 1.86GHz (1867MHz exactly) stock. That's - 14x133, 1.45v.

Although it says on Newegg, 1.83GHz. It's wrong. Officially, it's supposed to be 1.86 according to AMD's June 2003 OPN.pdf

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Originally posted by Dojo | Warlord
Hi,


Stock: 2.0GHz at 1.45v

Result: 2.7GHz at 1.85v; prime95 stable

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Anyway...Like I said in my first post, Im sure I can hit 2.8ghz prime stable.

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Well Im finished FSB clocking for now, got 242 FSB with an 11x multi. So im at 2.66GHz right now. It seems that only DFI Infinity users can get high FSB's with these mobiles with no problems and without doing an L12 mod. :(

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it seems you are having difficulties with the High FSBs and High clocks and high Vcores just like many of us are having..

It seems you have already attempted to get to high FSBs and high total clocks like you've done with 2.7+ghz@ lower FSBs earlier.

It will probably be harder to get to same(2.7~ 2.8ghz) high total clocks at high FSBs.. not only high vcores.

He's actually at a lower vcore. He's at 1.775 atm iirc.

With 1.8, he could probably get 245 prime stable as it was 100% memtest stable. He rails are just running very low at these speeds and voltages which is why he's opted to switch out his Antec 550 for his Fortron 530. I'll probably go over his house sometime next week to make the changeover and turn up the rails to a nice 3.5/5.5/12.6 or something. :)

Nice scores Sean! :toast:

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Originally posted by Dojo | Warlord
You're friend is right, pretty much. The mobile 2500+ runs at 1.86GHz (1867MHz exactly) stock. That's - 14x133, 1.45v.

Although it says on Newegg, 1.83GHz. It's wrong. Officially, it's supposed to be 1.86 according to AMD's June 2003 OPN.pdf

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thats odd? usaly amd only leaves a gap of what 66mhz between thier models? so why is the 2600 2gigs and the 2500 only 1.86ghz? wierd indeed i didnt know this??? oh well thx for clearing that up for me.

peace perc,

EDIT: Bleh, nm, I don't know. heh.

I'm now also curious why the OPN reports the 2600+ as running at only 2000 when the 2500+ runs at 1.86.

no idea.. :confused:

A complete list of all AMD processors, excludeing the Athlon 64's:

http://www.esquire.co.za/Library/AMD...une%202003.pdf

Mobile 2400+ - 1800MHz (13.5x133) - 45W, 1.45v
Mobile 2500+ - 1867MHz (14x133) - 45W, 1.45v
Mobile 2600+ - 2000MHz (15x133) - 47W, 1.45v

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Originally posted by Dojo | Warlord
no idea.. :confused:

A complete list of all AMD processors, excludeing the Athlon 64's:

http://www.esquire.co.za/Library/AMD...une%202003.pdf

Mobile 2400+ - 1800MHz (13.5x133) - 45W, 1.45v
Mobile 2500+ - 1867MHz (14x133) - 45W, 1.45v
Mobile 2600+ - 2000MHz (15x133) - 47W, 1.45v

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hmmm..., several online vendors including NewEgg list the 2600+ as being 2.13GHz... :confused:

Do you have a link to an official AMD list? I'd like to check it out at the source. TIA

well one thing is for sure guys!!!! IF the 2600 is 2.13 gigs? then the 2500 is not 1.86 gigs that just make NO sense!!! i wish someone would clear this up once and for all cause now im all confused!!

thx perc,

The 72W 2600+ DTR (desktop replacement) mobile chip is 2.13GHz stock on 1.65v. The 47W 2600+ (what I have and what newegg sells) is 2.00GHz stock on 1.45v.

That link in my last post are the official AMD OPN's.

Here, look...


http://gamers-syndicate.net/post_image.gif


There ya go, taken straight from the pdf in the mobile section, top of page 4.

Thanks for the info. I guess NewEgg's description is wrong then...

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...103-436&depa=0

well i gues that sums that up! just didnt think there was that much of a differance in the two chips? so at 2.16gigs my 2600 barton is only ocing 540mhz at 2700mhz? doesnt seem like much does it? my desktop 2500 barton at 1800 mhz will oc to 2600mhz thats an 800mhz oc on that bad boy!! oh well thx for clearing that up cause i was woundering just what the hell speed my 2600 was running at stock?

thx perc,

Actually, since stock is 2000MHz, and it did 2700MHz, thats a 700MHz OC...

The reason I'm confused about it is that the standard desktop Barton rated at 2600+ is running at 1.9Ghz (166*11.5). If the mobile 2600+ (133*15) is running at 2Ghz that means that the 33Mhz loss in FSB is countered by a whopping 100Mhz gain in clockspeed to achieve the same PR.

On the other hand, the standard desktop Barton rated at 2500+ is running at 1.83Ghz (166*11). If the mobile 2500+ is running at 1.86Ghz (133*14), then only 33Mhz clockspeed is given to the mobile to counteract the same 33Mhz FSB loss to achieve the same PR.

This PR system seems really fishy :)

Maybe that's why the mobile 2600+ seems so damn good for OC compared to the 2400/2500? It has a full 100Mhz more stock clockspeed than its standard desktop counterpart - a much bigger difference than any of the other mobiles.

has anyone bought one of these chips from cpucity.co.uk in the uk? I'm about to order one and was wondering what steppings they have in at the moment

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Originally posted by shrae
The reason I'm confused about it is that the standard desktop Barton rated at 2600+ is running at 1.9Ghz (166*11.5). If the mobile 2600+ (133*15) is running at 2Ghz that means that the 33Mhz loss in FSB is countered by a whopping 100Mhz gain in clockspeed to achieve the same PR.

On the other hand, the standard desktop Barton rated at 2500+ is running at 1.83Ghz (166*11). If the mobile 2500+ is running at 1.86Ghz (133*14), then only 33Mhz clockspeed is given to the mobile to counteract the same 33Mhz FSB loss to achieve the same PR.

This PR system seems really fishy :)

Maybe that's why the mobile 2600+ seems so damn good for OC compared to the 2400/2500? It has a full 100Mhz more stock clockspeed than its standard desktop counterpart - a much bigger difference than any of the other mobiles.

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Yea, who knows what AMD is doing, lmao.

But yea, your probably right. Thats why the 2600+ OC's a little better than the 2500+'s and 2400+'s and it's probably going to be the same whenever the mobile 2800+ hits newegg, with the 2800+ OCing better than the 2600+. Higher rated CPU's (xx00+) are usually the best of the best. Because that means they passed AMD's validation to run at those higher stock speeds at the same voltage of lower rated chips.

:smileysex

Oh and even though it's official stock speed may be 2.00ghz with 1.45v, my chip had no trouble running 2.20ghz (3200+) at the same voltage, prime stable. I have a screenie if anyone wants to see. :toast:

yup i believe you mine does 2200@1.45v as well(i dont have a screenie didnt keep the system up long enough). i thought this was exellent but now i find out that the chip is defualt at 2gigs and for some reason it doesnt seem so exellent anymore... dont get me wrong ofcourse these chips are killer ocers without a doubt. i cant wait to see how the 2800's and 3000's molblies oc? i bet 3gigs will be a common occurance!

peace perc,

This is the best I can do on my NF7-S v1.2, even if I raise vcore I can't get past 220MHz FSB... :(

Not Prime95 stable but I can fold... :banana:

GJ, 2.75GHz. I never tried anything higher than 2.7 on 1.85, I just assumed it wouldnt be prime stable without moving to 1.9 at least. Ill have to try it...(12.5x220)

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Originally posted by Dojo | Warlord
Actually, since stock is 2000MHz, and it did 2700MHz, thats a 700MHz OC...

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a 700mhz oc for a high end cpu that is! very impressive!

EQuito,

thats a nice clock for teh volts u are running, what cooling are u using at the moment?

mong

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Originally posted by saaya
a 700mhz oc for a high end cpu that is! very impressive!

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yeah i know but when is it ever enough for us? hell i can only get a 250mhz oc on this new 64 system i should be so lucky to have a 700mhz oc on this one!! oh well its a sickness i tell yeah :D

peace perc,

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Originally posted by Perc
no right now the barton rig is shelved :0( i needed the cd roms and video card out of that system to build the new 64 system. once i get another 9800pro and a dvd rom ill be back up and runnning with that system then ill try the pin mod. im sure thats all i need to do? i mean they are both bartons just one is a 266chip where as the other is a 333 chip you would think the 266 chip by nature would be the faster of the two when ocing the fsb? just seems wierd to me thats all? i know that each chip ocs differntly but to have one oc to like 2700mhz and do crappy on the fsb where the other is slower in mhz but faster in fsb ocs is puzzling? but then again im not the only one to have this problem so i gues the pin mod is the answer? i realy like that one idea of doing the pin mod on the underside of the mb! i just cant seems to get the damm wire to go into those holes when trying the pin mod using the holes? anyways when i do get it up and running again i will try the pin mod for sure. would love to have 2600mhz with a 466fsb!! that would for sure give my 64 system a run! infact i can see that system out running this one(at my current oc of 10x225) with the right cooling and oc! OH just one last question? what speed in mhz are these molblie 2600's?

peace perc,

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Can someone PLEASE tell me which holes to wire for this mod?I have looked everywhere and am still confused about which holes under the mobo to pin together...just the names like h28 or whatever they are called? Thanks

i have to rember where i seen it but there is a pic someone showing you the exact pins and thier numbers on the under side of the board posted in either our forum here or another one? when i find it ill post it for you. im going to do the mod underneath the mb also so i well start looking for it.

peace perc,

That's unfortunate, I have no problems doing high FSB's on this board.

:shrug:

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Originally posted by Perc
i have to rember where i seen it but there is a pic someone showing you the exact pins and thier numbers on the under side of the board posted in either our forum here or another one? when i find it ill post it for you. im going to do the mod underneath the mb also so i well start looking for it.

peace perc,

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I would be most grateful if you did Perc! Thanks:D

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Originally posted by mongoled
EQuito, thats a nice clock for teh volts u are running, what cooling are u using at the moment?

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Thanks! I'm using an SLK-900 with an 80mm Mechatronics fan and an open window... :D
Seriously, it was kind of chili last night so I kept the window above my desk open during benching.

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Originally posted by Dojo | Warlord
That's unfortunate, I have no problems doing high FSB's on this board.

:shrug:

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LOL yeah man but your also using the infinity mb and those dont seem to be effected like the nf7 mbs are? lucky you but the rest of us arent so lucky....

peace perc,

Yea, thats what I've been sayin, the DFI boards don't seem to have a problem with the mobiles and high FSB's. I wonder why the NF7's do. :confused:

Anyone have any theories?

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Originally posted by EQuito
Thanks for the info. I guess NewEgg's description is wrong then...

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...103-436&depa=0

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They've changed the specs at my request...

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I read high fsb is only a problem with the rev2.0's??

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Originally posted by EQuito
They've changed the specs at my request...

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wow, gj! So many people have been trying to get them to change that 1.25v error on the 2500+ also, they havent budged on that..rofl. :toast:

hey dojo- did u have to do the L12 mod to your 2600 to get that fsb? im thinking about getting an infinity. did u get yours from newegg?

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Originally posted by Dojo | Warlord
wow, gj! So many people have been trying to get them to change that 1.25v error on the 2500+ also, they havent budged on that..rofl. :toast:

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hmmm..., looks like they changed it after all cause it shows 1.45v now.

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Originally posted by FlyingHamster
hey dojo- did u have to do the L12 mod to your 2600 to get that fsb? im thinking about getting an infinity. did u get yours from newegg?

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Nope. Just put it my Infinity and OCed away. Got 2.7 with multi clocking, then went back and did FSB, kept raiseing it, got to 242. No problems. Im thinking after I sink up my mosfets and some of the other hot chips on the mobo ill be able to hit 245. But as of right now memTest gives me errors at that speed. Actually, it only gave me one, but whatever.

- Taiwan
- 1/21 BIOS
- Winbond BH-5 @ 3.3v Vdimm/1.9v Vdd

And yes, I got my Infinity from Newegg.

for 3.3vdimm u didnt have to do any mods right? since thats the most the infinity allows.

and for 1.9vdd, is stock cooling sufficient? or do use extra cooling on your NB? wuts the max vdd the infinity allows?

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Originally posted by FlyingHamster
for 3.3vdimm u didnt have to do any mods right? since thats the most the infinity allows.

and for 1.9vdd, is stock cooling sufficient? or do use extra cooling on your NB? wuts the max vdd the infinity allows?

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The 3.3vdimm, no mods, it is max allowed by default on the Infinity. 3.4v or higher requires a vdimm mod.

For the 1.9vdd, im useing a Swiftech MCX159-A for NB cooling. Stock probably couldn't handle it since its a passive heatsink. The max vdd that the infinity allows is 1.9v :)

:thumbsup:

I'd like to buy one, the problem is to find it here in Brazil...heheeh

yea, :(

Mabye they will show up soon?