NEW MACH 2 ST from nVENTIV !!!

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03-10-2004, 04:29 AM
brwmogazos

NEW MACH 2 ST from nVENTIV !!!

This is just great!

Phase change has become even more cheaper!!! thanks to the new Mach 2 ST!

nVENTIV will present a new product called Mach II st on monday. They have told resellers weeks ago so it could be in stock for the official launchdate. The product will be a Mach II without support for displays and without USB-connection and the software. Instead it will have a better rubberhose (much more rigid) and the price the best part - MSRP is set at 480,- Euros!

Anyone who hasnt bought a phase change cooling system...now thats gonna be a great deal...:banana:

Would even be worth getting two of them.One for your CPU and one for your GFX card :toast:
03-10-2004, 04:34 AM
`schr0et

480 EU = how many USD?
03-10-2004, 04:35 AM
phil stanbridge

590 according to my currency converter mate.
03-10-2004, 04:36 AM
mrzee

Asetek has a new cooler scheduled to be released soon also. All I know at this time is it looks just like a Mach 1 with the aluminum kit.

Edit; sorry, didn't see your other post.
03-10-2004, 04:40 AM
Master_G

Quote:

Originally posted by mrzee
Asetek has a new cooler scheduled to be released soon also. All I know at this time is it looks just like a Mach 1 with the aluminum kit.

See this thread for more details. Isnt this idea from Nventiv much the same as Asetek's idea of the standalone edition (i hope they continue that trend with their new cooler as that would rock)

G
03-10-2004, 04:40 AM
Slay3r

Quote:

Originally posted by `schr0et
480 EU = how many USD?

Live mid-market rates as of 2004.03.10 12:41:57 GMT.
480.00 EUR
Euro = 590.670 USD
United States Dollars
1 EUR = 1.23056 USD 1 USD = 0.812637 EUR

http://www.xe.com/ucc/
03-10-2004, 04:47 AM
TheDude

brwmogazos,

Do you have a link to this info? Where did this info come from? Thanks;)
03-10-2004, 04:55 AM
Firelord-OCHW

Thats £324! not bad!
03-10-2004, 05:06 AM
brwmogazos

Quote:

Originally posted by TheDude
brwmogazos,

Do you have a link to this info? Where did this info come from? Thanks;)

No mate i got no link for this one sorry.

However i got a little update for you guys :)

someone forwarded me some more info on the new nVENTIV product ;)

resellers in the UK got info a couple of weeks ago so they could get it in stock!

:)
03-10-2004, 05:19 AM
brwmogazos

At the end of the day why get watercooling if the unit is gonna cost arround £330 when a good watercooling setup will set you back more than £250?
03-10-2004, 05:35 AM
Firelord-OCHW

Quote:

Originally posted by brwmogazos
At the end of the day why get watercooling if the unit is gonna cost arround £330 when a good watercooling setup will set you back more than £250?

Yes true BUT I WC my rig for £240 and that was with Ehiem 1250, Maze 4 CPU and GPU and decent rad and res. You can only cool the CPU with that...
03-10-2004, 05:45 AM
brwmogazos

Quote:

Originally posted by Firelord-OCHW
Yes true BUT I WC my rig for £240 and that was with Ehiem 1250, Maze 4 CPU and GPU and decent rad and res. You can only cool the CPU with that...

Indeed mate.I was using the waterchill along with my mach 2 to cool my NB and GFX...i aint doing that anymore though.

With freon you will get a lot better overclocks compared to WC.
In canterwood boards i dont think NB cooling makes any difference unless youre running some v high fsbs( i noticed no difference by WC my NB and active cooling the stock HS with a little fan) and then again your GFX can still be cooled efficiently with an arctic cooler vga.

No you cant replace watercooling for all of your parts with phase change but then again most of the people go either phase change or watercooling focused only on cpu cooling...
03-10-2004, 06:03 AM
saaya

dude thats not cheap at all! i mean its a better price, but its not cheap! i can build an entire medium performence system with that money!
03-10-2004, 06:32 AM
EmineM

unfortuantly this wasnt supposed to be released to public... some people are always very horny on this stuff
480 is manufacture price.. you will expect higher prices
03-10-2004, 06:40 AM
phil stanbridge

Manufacturers suggested retail price is 480 Euros mate, which means it will definitely be around that sort of price.
03-10-2004, 06:49 AM
brwmogazos

Quote:

Originally posted by saaya
dude thats not cheap at all! i mean its a better price, but its not cheap! i can build an entire medium performence system with that money!

Spending £330 for cooling isnt cheap at all...

i am comparing its price with the mach 2 i bought for £550+ ;)

Its like £200 less so it is quite cheap compared to the mach 2.

If i take into account that a good watercooling system costs £250+ then for a bit extra you can get higher clocks etc
03-10-2004, 07:18 AM
saaya

naaahhh watercooling doesnt cost that much!

50€ cpu block
25€ pump
20€ hoses
20€ res
20€ gpu block
20€ nb block
20€ rad
20€ 120mm fans

=200€ and this is pretty much the best watercooling you can build!

thats less than half the price of the mach 2 st and a watercooling system consumes like 30W of power and cools the entire system whil the mach 2 st only cools the cpu and you have to pay like 20€ a month for the extra power it consumes!
03-10-2004, 07:22 AM
brwmogazos

Quote:

Originally posted by saaya
naaahhh watercooling doesnt cost that much!

50€ cpu block
25€ pump
20€ hoses
20€ res
20€ gpu block
20€ nb block
20€ rad
20€ 120mm fans

=200€ and this is pretty much the best watercooling you can build!

thats less than half the price of the mach 2 st and a watercooling system consumes like 30W of power and cools the entire system whil the mach 2 st only cools the cpu and you have to pay like 20€ a month for the extra power it consumes!

Thats weird cos just for my waterchill i paid £210+ here in the UK and a maze, eheim etc setup will set you back £250 which arround here are supposed to be the best parts you can get...

perhaps i shouldnt have come in the UK for the UNI at all...is germany the right place then :confused: :D :p:
03-10-2004, 07:31 AM
saaya

50€ cpu block (ok its 55€, performs close to the rbx)
25€ pump =1000L/H eheim value pump
20€ hoses ...
20€ res ...
20€ gpu block (actually a cpu block)
20€ nb block (actually a cpu block)
20€ rad (ebay/junkyard)
20€ 120mm fans (2x delta 2800rpm=silent@5v)

:)
03-10-2004, 07:49 AM
C3

Nice move of nVentiv.But I wanna see an improved MachII with R404a,which will be able to compete with the Vapo "MachII Clone" LS.
I hope that nVentiv will show some new stuff@CeBIT 2004
03-10-2004, 07:56 AM
saaya

hmmmm a dual head unit would kick some major 4ss! gpu+cpu :)
03-10-2004, 08:23 AM
Marci

All distributors and resellers were intructed not to mention the new unit from nVentiv anywhere publicly until AFTER they had officially announced the product t Cebit. None of the info on this unit is supposed to be available to the public yet, only to resellers and distributors... breach of NDA... :mad: If yer gonna be privvy to confidential info you should do them the honor of keepin it confidential IMO til they say otherwise.
03-10-2004, 11:09 AM
Jeff

Then delete this thread. It's not worth pissing off manufacturers imo.
03-10-2004, 11:10 AM
Crankster

As much as i disllike asetek i do love competition and if the response is a 50% price cut, count me in
03-10-2004, 11:15 AM
saaya

just delete this thread then...
03-10-2004, 11:17 AM
Crankster

Pointless?
03-10-2004, 11:23 AM
TheDude

Hey the cats out of the bag now, not just here but all over the net. Evidently some reseller has loose lips. I'm sure if nVENTIV finds out who it is, they will be an ex reseller or distributor.
03-10-2004, 11:38 AM
Tedinde

We are not under a NDA with Nventiv, the resellers are. Maybe the poster is a reseller, But i see no pics of it.

Nice price finally!!!

There is no problems i see with this post.
03-10-2004, 11:40 AM
Saffire

Hope it comes with the LianLi casing as standard :) mmmm
03-10-2004, 12:26 PM
neyoung

This does make it more affordable for the masses to get phase change, but still not cheap. I would really like to see an improved mach II, but its nice to have the option to buy a cheap phase change unit.
03-10-2004, 03:05 PM
TheDogFather

Maybe the reseller in question should be more carefull who he tells in future, its way too obvious who this came from.

TDF.
03-10-2004, 03:17 PM
brwmogazos

Quote:

Originally posted by TheDogFather
Maybe the reseller in question should be more carefull who he tells in future, its way too obvious who this came from.

TDF.

:rolleyes:
03-10-2004, 03:25 PM
bigZ

seems a nice enough price... but it's terrible to see that people break NDA's in such a way. :mad: :rolleyes:
03-10-2004, 04:13 PM
texuspete00

Poster didnt sign sh1t. I dont know why we would bust his balls. All we know is it seems like it's plausible and a little birdie told him. Maybe even just a solid rumor. Is that why this is such a big deal, because for once we actually might have some good rumor instead of a flaky one?

edit: This sounds a lot more harsh than I wanted it to. Sorry:cool:
03-10-2004, 04:18 PM
bigZ

Quote:

Originally posted by texuspete2k2
Poster didnt sign sh1t. I dont know why we would bust his balls. All we know is it seems like it's plausible and a little birdie told him. Maybe even just a solid rumor. Is that why this is such a big deal, because for once we actually might have some good rumor instead of a flaky one?

I never said it was the poster who broke the NDA, but some little birdie has...
03-10-2004, 04:52 PM
cir108

In a world whose byword is power and corruption, people like to make themselves special by clanning and they do this through special handshakes, licking each others' feet or even ...... NDA !!

Really? then why have secrets when we know that there is no such thing for what is a secret if there is no disclosure, like what is darkness when there is no light.

Confusing isn't it and it's no BS either. So let not those great dealers feel special just to be able to say "NDA... er..but we know all about it... because we are special people." This, for those coughing blood at this point, is the real BS. "Secrets" are for revelation and there is nothing special about NDA, free masons.. etc. They are only special because they managed to make others to think so.. by saying so.

So what if Ali Baba and his clan got some freebies from their last heist ... we are ALL going to die one fine day... and even that is nothing special... It's just buy and sell... my money is the most special to me and it says more than anybody's BS NDA crap...

Remember, muck does it's job best when it's spread all over .... and not clumping in one big stinking pile.