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Now that water chilling has its own area we should also have a gallery
I'll start with mine
http://server6.uploadit.org/files/wa...0-DSC00553.JPG
clean looking huh;)
I vaccumed it today so hopefully soon i will have it going
also the compressor on this sys is a 9000 btu Window AC compressor that i got from ebay
hey I was gona make this thread :p:
Anyway yea mines a suckey loud over charged big ass window AC :p:
Gona fire it up again when my mag3 for my gaming rig comes monday (stole chillers eheim 1250 :p: ) than I'll start my own... FINALLY!
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/afIr3wIthIn/PC120100.JPG
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/afIr3wIthIn/PC120101.JPG
And heres my old rig that killed my nf7s that I was gona kill anyway :p:
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/afIr3wIthIn/PC020090.JPG
Lookin schweet, i might braze mine up soon once ig et some fill gauges etc.
Here is mine:
http://www.extremecooling.net/pics/1...ereitung/5.jpg
http://www.extremecooling.net/pics/1...ereitung/6.jpg
http://www.extremecooling.net/pics/1...er/mobo/11.jpg
http://www.extremecooling.net/pics/1...er/mobo/16.jpg
http://www.extremecooling.net/pics/1...er/mobo/20.jpg
This was an old fridge,.... and now it´s a waterchiller :D
Here is a text about it (in german)
could we get a peek inside your res?
I love how its in a case and so well insulated :eek:
yea I really need to insulate my beer cooler its a few degrees below ambient.
cold_ice what did you use to hold styrafoam together?
Hi fellas,
Still working on it, but here's a teaser...
http://members.home.nl/jan.barelds/M...iller/-24C.jpg
Was just a testrun, no load other then missing lid (and top insulation).
Well this isnt my rig but i sure hope it was:
http://www.voodoopc.at/
It is waterchilled
Thats regular watercooling that they try to make sound special :p:
@afireinside: thx mate :toast:
I have the same PSU ;)
@iceman2g: Did you mean the wodden box for the water? You don´t need anything to hold it together
My chiller is not so powerfull like some chillers here (water temp is -10° to -15°), but it´s enough at the time. And in the next few weeks I´ll biuld a direct die system... :)
What exactly is that block cold_ice?
It´s a selfmade oneQuote:
Originally posted by kommando
What exactly is that block cold_ice?
Some pics:
http://www.extremecooling.net/pics/1.../weiter/14.jpg
http://www.extremecooling.net/pics/1.../weiter/15.jpg
With some silicone :D
http://www.extremecooling.net/pics/1...solieren/6.jpg
insulated
http://www.extremecooling.net/pics/1...solieren/7.jpg
On the mainboard
http://www.extremecooling.net/pics/1...er/mobo/15.jpg
Dude nice, small tubing though.
I wouldnt call that rig "waterchilled", AFAIK, its watercooled , but not with chilled water.Quote:
Originally posted by quiksilver87
Well this isnt my rig but i sure hope it was:
http://www.voodoopc.at/
It is waterchilled
im not sure about that....Everyone here has told me that...but everyone at voodoopc has told me something else!!!(voodoo forums)!! I know it sounds obvious on who to believe but many people have that Rig and have actually seen that it is liquid chilled!!
i have a question about that....They say that voodoo doesnt want to bring down the temps too low because of the risk of condensation!! Is there any way to avoid this??
You can tell in that link with pics that it is just plain jane'r water cooling. Liquid chilled just sounds better, so thats what their going to put ;)Quote:
Originally posted by quiksilver87
im not sure about that....Everyone here has told me that...but everyone at voodoopc has told me something else!!!(voodoo forums)!! I know it sounds obvious on who to believe but many people have that Rig and have actually seen that it is liquid chilled!!
i have a question about that....They say that voodoo doesnt want to bring down the temps too low because of the risk of condensation!! Is there any way to avoid this??
Ill try to find better pics....
Btw heres something the president of voodoo said
http://www.voodoopc.com/boards/messa...284&forum=1027
And I really dont think that he is lying because millions of magazines have reviewed this rage F:1 ..and are probably sure that it is not watercooling....Say for example computergamingworld magazine rated it as the best gaming pc!
I heard in the WC section here its an 80 watt pelt or something :|
Thats just sad. They would have to insulate to prevent condensation.
It seems it would be some TEC system...........keeps the coolant at or just above ambient.
If chilled below ambient, insulation and condensation proofing would be needed.
Is DI chiler accepted? If yes i will post someics in like 1 week.
Is it possible to have a type of waterblock for using it with dry ice.
like dis:
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I dont think so, but my Di chiller will be in a freezer(w/o compressor) and i will put a kind of bug net like 5-10cm over the water and I will put some DI on that. And the DI is -80C, so the water will chill very fast.
And after i will put some DI on my water block(just to bring a little cooler). My DI is free, so i can some anywhere.
Ill try to find better pics....
Btw heres something the president of voodoo said
http://www.voodoopc.com/boards/mess...3284&forum=1027
And I really dont think that he is lying because millions of magazines have reviewed this rage F:1 ..and are probably sure that it is not watercooling....Say for example computergamingworld magazine rated it as the best gaming pc!
Two months ago, I built my waterchiller from an old fridge. Keeps the water -15 C at load when my Barton is @ 1.7V.
Pics:
http://home.tiscali.nl/syzwarez/pc/i...124_2450_t.jpg
http://home.tiscali.nl/syzwarez/pc/i...125_2509_t.jpg
For more pics and a (Dutch) how-to / information:
http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/...essages/847675
Nice setup :toast:
I´ve also used vaseline for insulating the mainboard ;)
The voodoo uses a pelt or something. Its not refrigeration and the temps sure as hell arnt bellow ambiant unless you mean with no load and temps probley blow.
Its not deserving of going here and its not like anyone owns one anyway.
oh , thats why tehre was vaseline there :P i was thinking sbout smthing elsE :P
lol :D
Your condenser is sideways. The tubes in the condenser need to be horizontal. and the hot gas coming from the compressor needs to enter the top horizontal tube. Gravity is working against you.
is the -50C temp the water or the evap
and what gas did u use
Your chiller looks nice and ghetto but its not the looks that count its the temps:D
I dont find any compressor anywhere!!!!!! I had one and ive cut the tubes(to remove the compressor from the freezer) and now i dont know what to do, how to put some gas in back, how to solder the tubes on it again. I hate that!!! I have spend 200$ CND for that freezer and ive just screw that up!!!!!!:mad:
At least i can try a DI chiller that should be better, but when i will not use some DI(coze its not unlimited quantity) I still whant to chill my water!
Can someone help me?!?!?
pc ice
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here's the block i used.
pc ice has attached this image
!!!! doesnt plexyglass crack under 0 degreee ?
to solder tubes u need a torch and hard solder aka brazing rod
u can get a torch at home depot
u can get 4 types at home depot
1.propane torch- cheap gets the job done but takes a very long time to get the tube to the right temp
2.Mapp torch- little bit more expensive than propane it works alot better than propane and gets the job doine easier
3.mapp/oxygen torch - i use this torch its very good at heating up the pipe and makes the job quick and easy but the oxygen tank only last for 20 min which isn't to long so u will have to replace the oxygen can may times
4.Acetylene/oxygen torch - this is one of the best torch u can get and its the one used by the pros but the price tag is very high like $250 USD and up
The solder used is called DYNAFLOW u can get it at AC or welding shops
So if I get a MAPP/oxy torch I can use it with just MAPP gas after the oxy runs out right?
the torch doesn't work correctly w/o the oxygen
Oh ok :( I'll probley get a MAPP/propane torch than.
I think you have those temps backwards ;)
yep R404 is some great stuff i wish i had a tank of it but it's too much $$ so i just stick to R22 nice and cheap:D
but R22 isn't that bad i got -40C with my chiller with R22
-50 SHEESH, can your pump handle that?
What pumps dude?
What kind of liquid mix :slobber:
so by adding R290 it lowers the high discharge temp of R22 which will give a all around lower temp
I'm I right:D
THX alot for the torch info water!!!!!!
But how do i put some gas in? and where i can find my gas?
And about how much is a MAPP torch, and how much time it last(if you know that)?
If u don't have a EPA lisence then the only gases u can buy R290 which is propane or R134a at an auto shop the propane is colder
to fill the system with gas u need a Gauge Set here is one 1st product on page http://www.rparts.com/Catalog/Tools_...gauge_sets.asp
I think the mapp gas torch is like $40 at homedepot and i'm not sure how long the can lasts
and here is a guide to building a water chiller
http://www.wc101.com/guides/refridgeration/
THX, but where i canget the R290 gas? exept a car shop, i dont love the three car shop we have:).
THX alot:)
You can use propane for a torch right? Is a 16oz bottle of brenz0matic torch propane good?
The propane torch will get the job done but it harder to use because it takes longer to heat up the pipe so u will have to hold it on the pipe for a little bit before brazing
You can buy R290 at places were grills are sold and in the guide i posted above on the last page it shows how to hook up a propane bottle to the Gauge Set
also rember to be careful because propane is very flamable
No I mean torch propane as R290 refrigerant. Or do I need a higher grade? Chilly1 told me that the kind you use in a grill isint pure enough.
I figure the propane in the propane torch is probably more pure than the grill propane and may work better
OK, So if i bring it to canadian tire they should be able to do it coze they have gauge sets, propane, and they could solder it.
But is it secure to put some R290 in a 134a compressor? And is the capilary tubes important?
If they have the tools than they should probably beable to do it
and u shouldn't have any problems with R290 in the compressor
and the cap tube is very important and if gary was here he would say its the most important:D
i use 4ft of .036 but thats for R22 it might work for u but for a more close to perfect size u might want to ask gary
How do you guys vacuum your systems?
gog, oh god, oh god!!!! Ive just cutted right in the middle of my cap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:(:(:(. Do you know a local shop that i can get that? And can someone say me what the caps are doing in the life?
And water_cooler20: THX alot for the help man, that was something that greatfully helped me:). Now i know that my compressor can be revived and i will be able to run 24/7 some chilled water:D. My thanks.
u could get a cap tube form www.rparts.com
also to vaccum a system u hook up a vaccum pump up to your gauges and gauges to your system than turn on the pump and then open up the high and low side
You can also use compressors, but im not sure. There is a link in the Vapour Chilling section about it all.
Here's my chiller!!!!
Some pics below!!!!
http://ricky.home.sapo.pt/chiller/13.JPG
http://ricky.home.sapo.pt/chiller/14.JPG
http://ricky.home.sapo.pt/chiller/15.JPG
http://ricky.home.sapo.pt/1b.JPG
http://ricky.home.sapo.pt/2b.JPG
http://ricky.home.sapo.pt/3b.JPG
http://ricky.home.sapo.pt/4b.JPG
http://ricky.home.sapo.pt/5b.JPG
http://ricky.home.sapo.pt/6b.JPG
http://ricky.home.sapo.pt/8b.JPG
http://ricky.home.sapo.pt/9b.JPG
http://ricky.home.sapo.pt/10b.JPG
Best wishs,
Jorge Lopes
Rickey already posted them...
Still looks mad!!
Sorry haven't see it!!! :confused: :confused: :confused:Quote:
Originally posted by afireinside
Rickey already posted them...
Thanks for the info!
Have a nice day
Jorge Lopes
hey, Ive just notice something: Its not dangerous usea torch side to a buble of propane????
jll,
It seems you have a lill' insulation problem, considering pic 10b... The armaflex used does not seem to provide sufficient insulation to battle condensation forming on it's outside. Nice temps you got there though! Nice 'n ghetto lookin setup too ;)
I agree. That insulation looks very thin. In commercial low temp systems, we use 3/4" wall thickness on all of the pipe insulation. I wouldn't go less than 1/2".
Here is my aircon
where can I find that for very very very cheap?????
ebay probably has some cheap ones
I cant shop on those web shops, only on retailers.....
I just picked up a huge ass 1m high ac unit from FaTs for free, will play around with it tommorow :)
Wondering what pumps youre using.Quote:
Originally posted by pc ice
my pump's can handle it and lower...
got any picsQuote:
Originally posted by kommando
I just picked up a huge ass 1m high ac unit from FaTs for free, will play around with it tommorow :)
Nice mixture.. like a blood :D
here is my latest chillier it got down to -38.4 deg's
over the next week or so i will be fine tunning it with a 130w tec
as a dummy heatload
6 foot of 0.026cap tubing and 20 foot 1/4 OD evap coil gassed with R290
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=21618&stc=1
kayl how much time does ur chiller have to work to reach that temp? how much liquid do u have in the system?
ocn[]
i used 5 litres 50/50 anti freeze then topped it up with about 1-2 litres of straight antifreeze, it took about 3 hours to get to this temperature. i have just changed the cap tube from 4 foot of 0.026 cap tube, it use to take 1hr 22 mins to go from room to -30deg, but wouldnt get any colder even after an hour or so. so when im tunning i think i will be shortening that cap tube little by little.
my latest chillier
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=21619&stc=1
and this is the res
the first run i got -25 deg in 3mins
then i lengthened cap tube and i got to -35deg in 15m mins
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=21620&stc=1
and this is the front view
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=21621&stc=1
Awesome :slobber:
Howed you make that res/HX whatever? Looks pretty cheap... Will it withstand methanol?
it's just 20' 1/4 OD copper pipe round around a map gas bottle then placed inside a plastic pipe with end caps.
i think i need to use 3/8" copper pipe for the refrigerant to evaporate properly as the 1/4" is too small. and i think that there might be a restriction in the capillary line. next time i think i will try 0.031" capillary line instead.
there are holes in the top of the res for the coolant mix to circulate through my water block, i just need to fix my water pump connection, at the moment the only way my pump can work is if its submerged cause one of the fittings broke off
when im finished the res can be sealed air tight,
i guess methanol water mix would be ok, just mix so that the end result of mix is just over the full capacity of the system to minimize the amount of flammable material used
Thought it was plastic... Da_bit did that and the plastic HX basicley got anniliated by the methanol...
Anyone try to chill water with ice from refrigerator for food?
I have no possibility to buy compressor (anyone have one that not neccessary? :rolleyes: ) and only built watercooler for system (but for all components - CPU,VGA,MB,HDD,PSU) complete fanless.
And I want to build a waterchiller
And here is my latest:
http://www.gatecom.com/~tmethod/chill3-a.jpg
http://www.gatecom.com/~tmethod/chill3-b.jpg
And of course it is for sale. :D
gary, do u have pics of the inside of it? it looks pretty cool as usual:slobber: ;)
The inside looks just like TECHChiller #2, except the new evap/res is half the size. With each chiller, I am downsizing the evap/res. The intent is to eventually find the optimum size evap/res, and then sell them to people who want to build their own chillers.
Actually, I designed an evap/res that is very small and would rival the plate heat exchanger in efficiency, but it is extremely complex and labor intensive, containing a mixture of both series and parallel circuits, which would make it very expensive. I'm currently working on a design that comes reasonably close, but holds the costs down.
Well time to jump into the fray.
Here is a unit I picked up today to play with.
It has hit -30.1 since I snapped the pic. About 25 min runtime.
Now I need a res.
Gary, Do you build your own reservoirs ? If so out of what ?
I like the all in one aproach and think I have enough room in the case if I build a res as opposed to a cooler. Any pointers would be appreciated. After I get that nailed down then I will tune the charge and see what it will do.
Thanks
Shawn
My evap/res assemblies are all brazed copper. Very strong and very efficient. I will soon be finished testing designs and will be offering them for sale.
i got the same AC :)Quote:
Originally posted by sc00by71
Well time to jump into the fray.
Here is a unit I picked up today to play with.
It has hit -30.1 since I snapped the pic. About 25 min runtime.
Now I need a res.
Gary, Do you build your own reservoirs ? If so out of what ?
I like the all in one aproach and think I have enough room in the case if I build a res as opposed to a cooler. Any pointers would be appreciated. After I get that nailed down then I will tune the charge and see what it will do.
Thanks
Shawn
did u have a tough time getting some of the screws out. on mine i had to dremel the head of the screw clean off just to get the covers off
No I managed to get mine out ok. Having a good screwdriver helps (Snap-on) I wrench for a living so I am used to tight fasteners. I haven't had the time to complete my chiller yet. Too many irons in the fire. :p:Quote:
did u have a tough time getting some of the screws out
Good luck with your project, hopefully I will have mine done soon.
Shawn
Add this to the gallery - I just finished it.
Sears (Kenmore) 5150 btu a/c window unit to begin with.
take a look my old chiller... It was a kryotech renegade
after 40 minutes...
thats all...
Here's my daily driver
& 1 in the dark w/ the lights out...
OCme any temps and benchies yet?
Quote:
Originally posted by oc_nightmare
OCme any temps and benchies yet?
sorry, not yet... still trying to get the os tweaked the way i like it and my other software installed along w/ tuning the chiller to max load...