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[Various] AMD Ryzen 2 Reviews
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1st link, cinebench and firestrike scores are low... Stock settings for cpu freq and just playing with memory scores higher on an x370.
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Question remains, can they run 4 sticks of mem @ 3200, or does it revert back to slower speeds? (Like 32 gb set)
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And the survey says... 4 sticks did not want to post at 3200Mhz
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How high can you go with 2 sticks without overvolting? 3200?
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Depends on sticks and density, but I'm landing at 3733 as a sweet spot for daily.
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Originally Posted by
Charles Wirth
And the survey says... 4 sticks did not want to post at 3200Mhz
Were they single rank or dual rank ?
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Originally Posted by
vario
Were they single rank or dual rank ?
Verified broken on x370 4x b-die single rank. wont post. wont mention board etc just yet but I doubt its board specific and most likely an agesa bug still.
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Mine are dual rank, 4x 16GB
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Originally Posted by
Particle
How high can you go with 2 sticks without overvolting? 3200?
Mind sharing what these sticks are your running? Thx!
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Originally Posted by
bluestang
Mind sharing what these sticks are your running? Thx!
Nothing yet. I'm trying to get a feel for which speed grade I should look into buying for the 2700X system I'm building. I want to purchase memory that will allow me to get to the edge of what the IMC is likely to support instead of being limited by the memory itself. As such, I was soliciting whatever results people were willing to share. I plan to run two single rank 8 GiB DIMMs.
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Originally Posted by
Particle
Nothing yet. I'm trying to get a feel for which speed grade I should look into buying for the 2700X system I'm building. I want to purchase memory that will allow me to get to the edge of what the IMC is likely to support instead of being limited by the memory itself. As such, I was soliciting whatever results people were willing to share. I plan to run two single rank 8 GiB DIMMs.
what do you consider over-volt? within what xmp defines? within what is available on market? (1.35-1.5)
If I were in the market, personally I would start looking at 3600+ c16.
c16 3600 kit plays nicer than the c15 kit I also have. Running vdimm at 1.42 and some minor voltage fiddling on the imc side (nothing crazy, slight bumps,) c16 (xmp set, timings auto) 3800 is achievable daily. If I just want to hit xmp profile (timings auto) + 3733 the rest can be set auto. I prefer 3733 because clear cmos then set 2 things, xmp and memory frequency, save and reboot. The sticks I use are b-die trident-z, and they appear to clock on the better side of things from what I have seen compared to similar sticks.
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Max bootable speed, I have good memory.
2x8GB 3733Mhz
4x8Gb 3333Mhz
2x16GB 3000Mhz
4x16GB 2666Mhz
All B Die
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Thats not exactly encouraging, my friend has 2x16gb B-die on taichi and runs 3200mhz on 1600X :-/ , would you say IMC is better on 2xxx than on 1xxx ?
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Strange, I had 2X16GB Gskill 3200 dimms running fine with an 1800X so I'd assume it should be no problem for the 2700X.
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The numbers above I re tested some and I stick with those as a soft rule ymmv some but I doubt more than one speed grade up with stability to run 8x overkill in x265 encoding.
This launch will be far better than Ryzen last year. I doubt we will see another bricking fiasco.
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Originally Posted by
Charles Wirth
Max bootable speed, I have good memory.
2x8GB 3733Mhz
4x8Gb 3333Mhz
2x16GB 3000Mhz
4x16GB 2666Mhz
All B Die
Odd, I can boot 2x8GB 3800Mhz with nearly zero issue. 3866 is where I hit the wall on x370 giga k7 gaming and voltages need to rise above what I care to set it to for initial testing.
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I can run 3800 but its on the edge. I looked into AMD notes and I will update tomorrow.
Numbers going up at hwbot.org
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Originally Posted by
Charles Wirth
I can run 3800 but its on the edge. I looked into AMD notes and I will update tomorrow.
Numbers going up at hwbot.org
Are you seeing a bigger impact on performance with memory frequency or timings? I'm wondering if 3200 at CL14 is a better bet than say 3600 at CL16. G.Skill doesn't advertise any AMD friendly kits beyond 3200. I'm assuming they're just Samsung B die modules and that some of their others are as well, even if not marked.
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It's amazing to see how amd cpus is so close to overpower intel cpus, the increment in performance to ryzen was 60% and then to ryzen+ 3%. Still 10% slower on single thread overall but that might change with ryzen 2.
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For gaming at 1440 or higher coffee lake makes no sense x rizen+ which means that unless intel releases a 10nm, things will be tough for intel as i see no point having a intel cpu anymore.
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Metroid
For gaming at 1440 or higher coffee lake makes no sense x rizen+ which means that unless intel releases a 10nm, things will be tough for intel as i see no point having a intel cpu anymore.
that comment makes no sense
if your gpu bottlnecked badly enough it doesn't matter if your running a 7 year old cpu or the latest and greatest
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/..._2600X/15.html
https://tpucdn.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen..._3840_2160.png https://tpucdn.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen..._3840_2160.png
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I have a score in just about every category and adding a few more today.
I have Windows 7 working, most of the score I posted are Windows 7.
http://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/ryzen_7_2700x/
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any way you can check your msi against a gaming k7 x370? I have the m7 x470 now as well and compared to previous testing on x370... the board is slower in cine and 32m at same freq and timings. wondering if you are seeing the same thing.
memory ceiling is no different between the boards as well.
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depens on...if you have all memory settings manuly. At auto can be different between X370 and x470 (BIOS)
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Originally Posted by
FlanK3r
depens on...if you have all memory settings manuly. At auto can be different between X370 and x470 (BIOS)
depends on... the board. auto is not something I'm using to test this.
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Originally Posted by
dasa
that comment makes no sense
if your gpu bottlnecked badly enough it doesn't matter if your running a 7 year old cpu or the latest and greatest
Intel cpus are only good for single thread or games lower than 1440p, anything other than those then makes no sense having intel cpus anymore like used to. The difference before ryzen was astronomically, now is so close that only makes sense to invest on ryzen and doing that will make intel to work harder and deliver cause i see only amd delivering right now.
Props to amd that launched a new processor that is 60% faster than its predecessor, i congratulate amd for that and i did the same for intel when they launched the e6600 back in 2006. I hate this 7% increase per 2 years and that made intel lazy, new chipset every year is bs, am4 has been for a long time.
I forgot to mention the endless quadcore bs since 2006 intel has been pulling, intel could have launched an octacore cpu since 2012 and decided not to for desktop users. If it was not for amd then we would have an endless quadcores for life, plus, intel is not charging a leg and an arm for its 6 core cpu cause of amd.
Both learnt the hard way, amd on 2006 and intel 2001 and now 2018. If you are not competitive then it has no market for your product, amd tried to cheat for a long time and intel grew lazy.
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Can anyone recommend a 2x8Gb kit to run at 3600 16-16-16 for a 2700X build. I'll assume GSKILL or Team and B-die?
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Nevermind, got the G.Skill 3600 C15 kit.
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Good choice on the ram, flare x?
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Nope, the TridentZ F4-3600C15D-16GTZ.
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I have that kit, and on the msi and giga 7, the xmp profile is borked. c15 does not run @ 3600 strap. You will get 16-15-15-xx and have to mess with subtimings to dial in stability.
both are x470 boards btw, but the same is seen on the giga 7 x370 as well.
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Another thing that I saw and the GBT board when pushing was the SMT and downcore reset after the system chooses to slack the timing. The options were set in BIOS yet the system ignored until I came off the 3733 strap.
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Originally Posted by
Charles Wirth
Another thing that I saw and the GBT board when pushing was the SMT and downcore reset after the system chooses to slack the timing. The options were set in BIOS yet the system ignored until I came off the 3733 strap.
Sounds about right. I had to fight the board for 4 hours to get WiFi working properly. Ended up pulling the battery after I realized clear cmos was not functioning. After that smooth sailing. Seems finnicky to get rolling but once it does it's great.
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Particle, I do both and with 32M timing adjust gave more than Mhz but with X265 Mhz gives me more FPS encoding, locking down timing also seems best.
With some tinkering I was able to get 3000Mhz posted, so AGESA 1002c is an improvement.
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Got a ROG Crosshair VII X470 coming tomorrow. Already have the 2700X.
Any tips for getting these TridentZ F4-3600C15D-16GTZ stable at C15 3600 MHz?
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Originally Posted by
ZenEffect
I have that kit, and on the msi and giga 7, the xmp profile is borked. c15 does not run @ 3600 strap. You will get 16-15-15-xx and have to mess with subtimings to dial in stability.
both are x470 boards btw, but the same is seen on the giga 7 x370 as well.
I'm finding that as well. Although I'm running 3200 right now and still won't do C15. Is there any trick or strap that will run C15 with this kit? I'm on X470 ASRock Taichi, but have a CH7 X470 sitting here as well to use.
Any tips at all with this RAM would be great.
