I have "Ryzen" to the occasion!
Hope to do some basic testing this weekend.
http://3800z24.info/Ryzen/Ryzen.jpg
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I have "Ryzen" to the occasion!
Hope to do some basic testing this weekend.
http://3800z24.info/Ryzen/Ryzen.jpg
1800x ?
Negative, 1700 :)
My board was borked and am still waiting on replacement. Should have it tomorrow.
Which board?Quote:
Originally Posted by charged3800z24
Nice, what ram will you be using ?Quote:
Originally Posted by charged3800z24
I need 32gb and im not sure its possible to do 3200Mhz 32gb :-/ .
Reading all the reviews i was like "wth, they needed like a month to NOT rush this, why??"
Anyhow, seems like IMC is tied with ram so you need fast ram :D
I own a g-Skill 2400 CAS 15 1.2v kit. I'm looking at getting some better RAM, but was waiting for some validations of what works best.
MSI B350 Tomahawk, BIOS issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by richierich
Nice to see you around again, Charged. Haven't been on the forums much. Looking forward to how these chips OC on here. Everyone is so scared to bump voltage, but I know people here love to push everything.
What's your cooling solution?
Been lurking and glad to be back in action!Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] Synthetickiller
I'm using the Wraith and H100i water. I have a custom loop that runs into my garage for chilled water, it is what I used from first Phenom till now. MSI has been awesome for the board support. So I should be good to go soon.
Ive gone up to 1.6v heard someone did 1.9v air.... its not scared just increases heat dump less stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] Synthetickiller
Memory with Sammy As are meant to work very well. Still waiting on delivery of my stuff, so your testing will keep me occupied :DQuote:
Originally Posted by charged3800z24
chew*Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
any word on Memory preference? I did not get my board yesterday but a kit of GSkill Fortis showed up.... P/N F4-2400C16D-8GFT. I can't do any testing yet though.
Samsung ic highest bin possible i guess. I went with c14 3200 as that seemed like it would be hassle free in a daily
I'll be looking forward to the results.Quote:
Originally Posted by charged3800z24
Thanks chew*!Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
A lot of the reviews with water cooling (at least on youtube) didn't push anything beyond stock voltage as AMD claimed that it's the max voltage, but we all know better.
Now that the official reviews over. Here is abuse just for your voltage fetish :D timespy stable to be clear.Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] Synthetickiller
http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/...psaeveftfu.jpg
I expect charged to be able to do this preety well on chilled water. I was on cold air due to a coldfront that just rolled in 40c idle.
It seems like unfortunately non-value B350 boards are skipping on more/redundant pwm phases. I'm curious to see how it'll cope with a 1700 regarding throttling.
Well, Looks like Wednesday is the day. I'm sitting on a couple Mem Kits, CPU and no boards....
whats your batch man?:)
http://3800z24.info/Ryzen/Ryzen1700.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r
I hope to have some good results, but not betting the house ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
I have a trick. Might be silicon specific but your welcome to try it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by charged3800z24
I like tricks! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Ok so here we go. My board defaults at 1.1v SOC.
SOC is used to gain stability to Memory, IMC and NB. So anyway its input voltage into chip. Voltage creates heat. When fooling around running a benchmark or whatever at the ragged edge and IMC mem NB is significantly stable in the past I have borrowed a little oomph from elsewhere, pull heat out so I can put heat back in. In this case pull voltage out of one place input that voltage somewhere else.
Like in the above shot. I pulled .100 out of SOC to get heat out to put .100 into vcore. While not realistic in realworld for a little fun benching you can squeeze the chips cahones just a tad more :D
Benchmark specific of course, in this case IMC stability is not stressed to hard in time spy. Pat attention when dropping it in baby steps it will have a negative outcome ( less stability ) at a certain point.
My negative outcome point was .975v in timespy run attempts.
Actually makes a lot of sense. I'll definitely give it a try, like you said, depending on the benchmark.
BTW, Board showed up last night, I haven't been home to test yet. Won;t be till late tonight.... :(. Also now have some FlareX to test, those came in yesterday.
okay, everything is back together and running 3.8ghz CPU stress test just to see how things are running.
Finally got him into a "turbo"
:D
Turbo? I run Supercharged lol
Okay, so 3.8v on 1.28v was good for 3hrs. 4ghz on same volts was barely benchable. 4ghz on 1.35v testing now
http://3800z24.info/Ryzen/4ghz_1.32v_Test1.jpg
http://3800z24.info/Ryzen/RyzenBuild.jpg
http://3800z24.info/Ryzen/RyzenBuild1.jpg
http://3800z24.info/Ryzen/RyzenBuild2.jpg
4ghz is turning out to need more v's. have it up to 1.43v. Remember, this is a MSI B350 Tomahawk. I am actually impressed so for with this board. Running very cool as well.
I'm currently using 2 x FlareX G-Skill single Rank 8gb 2400mhz DIMMS.
Had to run the Ryzen Blender again... lol, 33secs
http://3800z24.info/Ryzen/4ghz_1.43v_Blender-Ryzen.jpg
Idle / Load during Blender
http://3800z24.info/Ryzen/4ghz_1.43v_Idle_Load.jpg
Looking preety good :)
beats a 6950X... :eek:
The B350 Tomahawk looks somewhat decent for its price point. I was really looking hard at getting that but in the end I didn't want to build an ATX system.
Huh, it needs ~300W for cpu ? No 3D vga use ?Quote:
Originally Posted by charged3800z24
If yes, well, thats kinda disappointing for the cpu, i wouldnt be able to cool 300W using my air.
On a side note, excellent result for the MSI if it can deliver 300W for a cpu and not fry itself its a really decent board.
Everywhere else i was reading that 4ghz clocks need crosshair or taichi, something beefy with a x370.
um.. That is entire system load and idle. It is a OS that has been in use for over a year and on a preveious AMD FX system. Has several background task running, etc. before chip swap, it was near 600w laod and 295 idle for comparison.
ATX ? this isn't a mATX board, full ATX if that's what you mean.Quote:
Originally Posted by richierich
I was trying to estimate pure cpu load looking at idle and load, but yea i dont know whats in there ;-) .What is your cooling ?Quote:
Originally Posted by charged3800z24
right now h100i was on stock cooler for those test.Quote:
Originally Posted by vario
Okay, so last night, with the H100i I was able to boot into Windows at 4.1. This was by no means stable and not benchable.
I could achieve the exact same benchmark stable 4.0ghz as with the Ryzen stock cooler. I was, however, an average of 17*C cooler under load with H100i.
I then (don't laugh) let CPU-z stress test run all day at 3.9ghz. It never crashed :)
I just got home a little while ago and ran Cinebench R15 just to see a quick score. Will do more testing this weakend.
http://3800z24.info/Ryzen/4.1_1.48v_H100i_TestBoot.JPG
http://3800z24.info/Ryzen/CinemaMulticore_3.9.JPG
This chip reminds of the first Phenom II 1100t I got, as far as OCing goes. Seem to be the same peak OC on air and basic water.
Wait, were you referring to My Chevy Cruze LTZ RS in that screenshot? :PQuote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Yah just busting you up since you like blowers :)
where did you found in eshops FlareX?
Didn't buy them, they just showed up ;)
The set I have support 3200 at 1.35v. problem is, my B350 Tomahawk isn't allowing me to do and advance memory tuning. It does, however, default to the 2400 1.2V with correct timings. MSI assured me the board any FlareX are supported in 2400 and 3200 configurations.
Yes, I have a turbo now... blah. But I have to admit, it is a fun car to drive... with my tune! Still prefer My S/C 3800.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Ok due charged due to unexpected circumstances i will join your tribe. Time to scalp some people. Cheapest board i could find in stock claiming support for pc3200.
Looking forward to your testQuote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Well I didn't grab the MSI there were ASUS and MSI open box msi was 87 asus 79.Quote:
Originally Posted by charged3800z24
Msi seems to lean towards Hynix in qvl asus samsung so I gambled
Above all I am cheap so that was a big factor.
But we can be B350 bros for a while till demand and kinks get worked out on the x370 boards :D
Sounds good :up: I haven't had any time this weekend to hook up my cold loop yet. Been busy with other stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Nice to see XS alive and kicking! You rock guys :)
How would you qualify the VRM on the Tomahawk, being only a six phase design?
Someone over at reddit posted this:
Not that CPU-z's stress testing is the most stressful thing around... Still, would you say according to your experience this board is up to the task? I mean, a 3.8-4GHz OC at reasonable voltages.Quote:
I have a thermal camera and since the motherboard does not report the VRM temp, I wanted to see for myself. This photo was taken with cpu loaded using CPU ID Stress test. This is of the back of the MB.
CPU: R7 1700 @ 3.9Ghz
CPUV: 1.36v
CPU Temp: 62c
VRM Temp: 65c
http://i.imgur.com/3NnaKEA.png?
If so, it certainly looks like one of the best B350 boards at around $100
The back and heatsinks of VRM area is cool to the touch., even under load. Not sure what is going on for that user. Poor contact of heatsinks and fets?
Right now I've been test max clock, 24/7, at stock volts for the 1700. Up to 3.6ghz pretty much all day.
I'll see if I can get some temp readings myself. I'm kind of curious.
Also, I found my 12 year old PSU is finally having issues, replaced it and my idle power is under 100w now and load is down a ton. OCing seems more stable as well... It has been a great PSU good old Corsair Single 12v rail 750w!
Replaced an old Q6600 I had with 1700 + tomahawk
Running WCG 24/7 @ 3.7ghz vcore 1.16 cpu temp 65C on AMD stock cooler ... been running about 36 hrs with no issues.
I did some brief OC and bench @ 3.9ghz .. I didnt bother to test stability because i know i need a better cooler. :)
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Okay, I know I haven't been posting anything great, but wanted to do some testing that I'll benefit from. Tried max OC on stock voltage and that was 3.6ghz. I have been running the past few days at 3.8ghz 1.25v. Gaming, rendering IE.. etc.
Ran CPU-Z stress test for a couple hours to get max temp and load (watts). All testing was done on the h100i.
http://3800z24.info/Ryzen/3.8ghz_1.25v_Idle_Load.jpg
http://3800z24.info/Ryzen/3.8_1.25v_RyzenH100i.JPG
a screenshot with Blender 2.78a - 100 on Ryzen R7 1700@4,05GHz air cooled - Asus B350 Plus - DDR2400 CL15, I will add later a photo, avec la mise en place:
voila la mise en place, btw I have installed the latest BIOS on Asus Prime B350 Plus and the issus with the RAM remains, it doesn't boot over DDR2400.
Well, FINALLY MSI gave me a BIOS that allows AMP profiles and run 3200mhz with just a click of a setting in BIOS. Really shaping up to be a nice board. Plus the boot time is great!
http://3800z24.info/Ryzen/stock_AMP_3200_G-Skill.JPG
Nice now how is it with bclk?
Haven't tried yet. Been crazy busy as of late. Will let you know.
HiQuote:
Originally Posted by chew*
CPU BCLK only goes to 103, since beta bios 1.32, I has hoping for more on 1.33. Now, there is no more beta bios to try, MSI "kindly" removed it all.
103 is the max right now, though Memory and POST delay have been the priority in the changes, well and stability of course. One thing I did like that was added was the "Memory Try It"Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
http://3800z24.info/Ryzen/MemoryTryIT.jpg
Been real busy with some server projects lately so haven't had time to do much testing. Decided to run MemTest Pro on the AMP profile with the FlareX 3200 kit. Just in case anyone wondered if it is working.
Hope to have time to try lower timings as well. I must say, this BIOS boot fast and has been stable. I look forward to more updates from MSI.
http://3800z24.info/Ryzen/MemtestPro...0_CL14_AMP.jpg
i should be getting the tomahawk with a 1600 and 2x4gb of some patriot 3000c15 stuff monday :) the board still get your stamp of approval?
Yes, this board has been fantastic. Been stable now for a while running 3.8ghz at stock V's. Using three different MEM kits from G-Skill and no issues. Running Flare-X 16GB kit at 3200mhz, 14CAS, A-XMP profile 2. Games, rendering whatever I throw at it.
with the last AGESA beta BIOS 1.62 Tomahawk works flawlessly with XMP profile 2 DDR2933 with 16GB Corsair CMK kit DDR3000, and it works also a little over XMP with DDR3066 CR 2T- which is an included option in the BIOS, up to DDR4000.
lets see that Titanium in action Charged :D
I'll give the "Chew* tested, Mother Approved" board a try this weekend!
I think it was Chew* abused ( on air) wifey approved lol.
Well, I miss typed anyways, so haha...
So far 4hgz with Cinebench and about an hour of 7 days 2 die gaming, lol. On Air
Okay, was playing around a little bit tonight and had some weird Pi 1M test.
So what is going on with the last loop on my setup, see the comparison from Carrizo below
Carrizo
http://3800z24.info/Carrizo/Carrizo_118_Pi_1M.JPG
Ryzen
http://3800z24.info/Ryzen/Pi_werid1.JPG
Not sure how you managed that with PI. It should've been around 10.4-10.5. I never saw anything like that happen with my 1200.
Did you set affinity at all? It's possible something kicked on right when it was about to finish.
Yah thats weird. Is that 7 or w10?
Oldguy932,
I ran several runs, all the same, even with affinity.
Chew*
all runs were under Win 10.