Swiftech to unveil new H220 all-in-one CPU cooler during CES 2013

Hello Guys, I have been away from forums for quite some time, being busy to prepare for the big announcement below. Unfortunately, I won't be able to answer many questions for now, being completely buried by last minute details, but I hope that you will find the information of interest :)

Press Release, for immediate release

Swiftech? is proud to announce the imminent release of the H220 CPU cooling kit, a new all-in-one liquid cooling system compatible with all current Intel? and AMD? desktop processors that will ship to consumers already pre-filled for plug-and-play operations. Setting itself apart from similar offerings, the product will also feature full expansion capabilities to include additional cooling devices for graphics and or chipset. The H220 will be unveiled during the Consumer Electronics Show held from January 8th to 11th in Las Vegas, NV and Swiftech? will demonstrate several systems featuring the new cooler capabilities at the Mandalay Bay Hotel Penthouse suites.

In a related announcement, the company disclosed that they had successfully developed and begun high-volume manufacturing of a new generation of Swiftech-made mini-pumps, specifically designed for the liquid cooling market. The pump combines a compact design, high-reliability (60,000 hours MTBF) and the high head-pressure performance characteristics necessary to drive multiple devices in the same cooling loop. Being PWM controlled, the device can be driven by any motherboard like a regular CPU fan. Thanks to this new pump and to substantial economies of scale, the company claims that their new H220 CPU cooler will offer thermal performance with a low to inaudible acoustic signature rivaling that of the best custom kits, all at the price of an entry level product. In the words of Gabe Rouchon, the company?s Chairman and CTA, ?This thing is ridiculously quiet; if the chassis light wasn?t on, I couldn?t even tell the system was running?.

Mr Rouchon also stated: ?User convenience and the vast movement of novice builders towards liquid cooling was a critical consideration in the H220 design. It dictated that the kit would be pre-filled and completely plug-and-play. As a result, tuning and operations are as simple as using a regular CPU cooler. But with a 15 year heritage serving the enthusiast community, we also wanted to eliminate some of the limitations of the existing low-cost systems which are unable to accommodate add-on components because (a) they are sealed-up and offer no means to refill the system without voiding the warranty, and (b) the type of pump they use is not adequate to drive sufficient flow to cool more than a CPU. The Swiftech? H220 kit addresses both issues by featuring a reservoir with fill-port built into the radiator so that the system can be easily emptied or refilled by the user at will, and by our new high-pressure pump. It all seems that 15 years of innovation and know-how, together with some of the most extensive R&D we ever conducted have led us to this moment, and we are truly proud to present a solution that finally bridges the gap between full custom and sealed-up liquid cooling kits?.

The H220 CPU liquid cooling kit is maintenance free for the duration of its 3 year warranty period, and will be offered at a Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price of $139.95


For further information, review samples, or visiting our suite at the Mandalay Bay from January 8th to 11th , please contact:
PR@swiftech.com

http://www.swiftech.org/images/Swift...H220%20lcs.jpg

Looks good Gabe :)
Can't wait to see some reviews on this.

Wow, the suggested retail price puts it at an amazing value...It's a shame I got some high rpm fans, and this is more tuned for low noise operation.
I'll wait for some reviews to surface.
Massive props for doing the aio wc thing properly ;)

this is a cool setup and a great price

would be cool if they offered different color tubes as well!

That is one heck of a deal, very nice!

when will this be available?

What differences sets it apart from previous kits except prefilledness and price?
Oh, and welcome back, Gabe :)

is that a normal apogee drive 2 but with the low watt pump?

BTW, i wonder if low profile of all apogee drives is that important (it anyway will be waaay lower then that of most coolers), and if it's not worth to turn pump 90deg so that it's output points straight to block base for less pressure drop/more performance?

When available?

We are in production. We plan to start shipping to the channels early February.

Does the waterblock / pump light up !!??

Is it a ddc pump?

IMO
The first AIO WC that look to be not that far from a real WC.

Naming convention should annoy Corsair too :D

Great work Gabe!

-PB

lol corsair cant say :banana::banana::banana::banana:, swiftech has been using 220 long before corsair had ever thought about water cooling

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What differences sets it apart from previous kits except prefilledness and price?
Oh, and welcome back, Gabe :)

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I pretty mich spelled it out in the op Churchy; pump is entirely designed by Swiftech (see related announcement here), and manufactured in-house. Swiftech is now officially in the eletric motor manufacturing business, which has long reaching ramifications as you can imagine, since there are many things that use electric motors ;-)

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is that a normal apogee drive 2 but with the low watt pump?

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Yes

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Does the waterblock / pump light up !!??

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No

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Is it a ddc pump?

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No; See above

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IMO
The first AIO WC that look to be not that far from a real WC.

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That's because it is. We use all the same components. Radiator core is same as MCR220-QP with some improvements to enhance compatibility, useability, and safety: reduced size reservoir, reduced height side brackets, for better clearance with MB, external rows slightly enlarged so that mount screws can't puncture tubes, and swivel inlet outlet barbs.

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Naming convention should annoy Corsair too :D

Great work Gabe!

-PB

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:D :D :D :D

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lol corsair cant say :banana::banana::banana::banana:, swiftech has been using 220 long before corsair had ever thought about water cooling

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this would be correct, Sir :cool:

im assuming u can change tubes to any color you want?

Awesome stuff !!
is there any chance that these will come with a 360mm rad too ? ( fingers crossed :D )
even if not... this thing pretty much kicks the h100's Bu** :up:

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im assuming u can change tubes to any color you want?

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that's the idea :) - novice? plug-and-play - enthusiast? customize it to your liking!

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Awesome stuff !!
is there any chance that these will come with a 360mm rad too ? ( fingers crossed :D )
even if not... this thing pretty much kicks the h100's Bu** :up:

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You can de-cross your fingers already; we have every intention to release a full range these kits in various sizes.

Interesting, I thought it was going to be a DDC3.1 motor by the shape/size. I'm guessing you won't release any pump performance specs yet, but I'm interested to see that.

The Corsair H100 specs are really weak per FT they are only:

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H100
Pump Spec: 12V DC, 0.1A
Flow Rate: 2L/min
Head: 112cm H20

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That's a very tiny 1.2W, 1.5PSI .44GPM max flow pump on the H100 where something like a DDC3.1 could produce 3X that much pressure head.

I really like the AIO + Expandable concept. The lack of expand ability in the sealed AIO kits and really poor pumping power has basically made the block/pump worthless on kits like the H100 for any sort of upgrade path. This alternative should finally bridge that gap for those interested in W/C, but perhaps limited in budget to under $150 and/or afraid to set up a custom loop. Now they can have this as plug and play, add a GPU block later...add...ect. That's really a great idea....nice job:up:

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Interesting, I thought it was going to be a DDC3.1 motor by the shape/size. I'm guessing you won't release any pump performance specs yet, but I'm interested to see that.

The Corsair H100 specs are really weak per FT they are only:


That's a very tiny 1.2W, 1.5PSI .44GPM max flow pump on the H100 where something like a DDC3.1 could produce 3X that much pressure head.

I really like the AIO + Expandable concept. The lack of expand ability in the sealed AIO kits and really poor pumping power has basically made the block/pump worthless on kits like the H100 for any sort of upgrade path. This alternative should finally bridge that gap for those interested in W/C, but perhaps limited in budget to under $150 and/or afraid to set up a custom loop. Now they can have this as plug and play, add a GPU block later...add...ect. That's really a great idea....nice job:up:

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Hey Martin good to see you here. coming to CES ? Would love to buy you dinner :-)

Since this is a closed loop system, and not a pump per se, but an integrated pump/waterblock, we are only publishing electrical and speed specs: 6W - 12v - 1000 to 3000 rpm. what I can say is that we designed this pump for equivalent or better Head Pressure than the 35X @ = speed.

One of these years I will, but I'm not going to make it this time. Looks like a ton of fun though.:)

Equal to a 35x!!!

Wow, this fits my budget nicely...Release dates? I might need someone to ship it to Argentina though :p

If this pump is equivalent to the 35x, will a standalone version appear soon, replacing the 35x? Also, why integrate pump to waterblock instead of radiator?

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If this pump is equivalent to the 35x, will a standalone version appear soon, replacing the 35x? Also, why integrate pump to waterblock instead of radiator?

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the rads with pump built in are such a pain to mount in some cases..

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If this pump is equivalent to the 35x, will a standalone version appear soon, replacing the 35x? Also, why integrate pump to waterblock instead of radiator?

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Keep in mind that integrating the pump to the rad makes it bigger... and it wouldn't fit in many cases if such thing was done.

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If this pump is equivalent to the 35x, will a standalone version appear soon, replacing the 35x? Also, why integrate pump to waterblock instead of radiator?

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it looks to be the 9W ddc, i dont think it would very popular outside of the cpu only cooling, and it would not save much if any money.

Gabe explicitly stated that this pump was not a ddc.

Here's a little bit about the demo we've done in LV - we are going to pack up soon, and will try to answer questions asap =)

The new H220 kit is closer to the new Swiftech Elite kit series than the Edge series.
It is based on the APD2 waterblock/pump combo but instead of using the MCP35X, we've designed and produced a new pump specifically for this new product.

The radiator is the same as the copper/brass based MCR220-QP-Res (same core and fin density w/ fill port) with very minor modifications to make the product more user friendly, a little more compact. It comes with a pair of Helix120-PWM already attached and our PWM splitter.

Tubing is a thick wall 3/8" ID by 5/8" OD and black. Both waterblock/pump and radiator have swivel fittings (3/8" barb) and come with a new aluminum clamped that is easy to use and reusable.

It's basically a AIO LC unit with enough radiator capacity and pumping power to be expanded to a fully custom/enthusiast loop.

Of course the unit comes already filled up and ready to use.


Few (bad - sorry)pictures from the demo:

#pic 1
http://imageshack.us/a/img208/9818/img0319yu.jpg
this is our setup with 4 identical systems
* 4 Nanoxia DS1 case
* 4 Asus Maximus Formula V
* 4 Intel 3770K
* 4 Kingston KHX1600 memory
* 4 Kingston 2k SSD's
* 3 EVGA GTX660 Ti's on 3 of the 4 systems
and 2 EVGA GTX680 Hydrocopper for the 4th systems
All systems are overclocked to the same speed 4.6GHz, same voltage, etc
System 1 system runs the Swiftech H220
System 2 system runs the Corsair H100i
System 3 system runs the Thermaltake Water 2.0 Extreme
last system (system4) also runs our H220 system but with 2 GTX680 liquid cooled and also a VR/Chipset water block

#pic 2
http://imageshack.us/a/img515/8822/img0323k.jpg
This is a close up of the H220 Waterblock/pump our 5th system
This 5th system runs a 3970K, 2x 7900 series graphics cards, the H220 system and 2 additional radiators (MCR220QP / MCR240QP). The idea here is to demonstrate how this single pump can run multiple blocks/rads..

#pic 3
http://imageshack.us/a/img856/8053/img0324ik.jpg
that same 5th system

#pic 4
http://imageshack.us/a/img801/1369/img0325gu.jpg

#pic 5
http://imageshack.us/a/img834/7596/img0326nc.jpg




compared temps for systems 1 through 4:
http://imageshack.us/a/img541/262/tempresults1.png


perf. for system #5
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/5336/system5bench.jpg

3930K @ 4500MHz
2x 7900 series
H220 stock + 2x EVGA Hydrocopper Blocks for GTX680 + 1x MCR220QP + 1x MCR240QP
all fans are running at 1,000 RPM

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pumping power to be expanded to a fully custom/enthusiast loop.

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half power pump yet just as good as the ones we all use?

seems to defy the laws of the universe.

Any more details on the testing?

Looks good so far...thanks for sharing..:)

I really had no idea you could get away with just a single 240mm rad for a CPU and GPU, let alone 2 GPUs. I understand why you wouldn't want to in lots of cases, I just didn't think cooling potential was there

Thinking of ordering a couple of these for a few friends. that block+cpu is just ./drool!

Can you give us a Core vs dbA comparison or something that shows the whole picture from min to max of each kit?

We need MOAR!..:)

In case anyone missed it here is the video Linus put up on YT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=tZgctchIQ7M

I do like those handy swivel joints and tubing. Testing aside, the beefy thick walled 5/8" tubing and swivel fittings along with the expandability is enough to win me over one of the sealed AIO kits. Despite the lack of testing detail, I do like the system and would consider buying one myself, nice kit. That price alone is hard to pass up on a system that is expandable. Looks good guys although it is killing me not seeing inside that pump, I want to see the inner workings!!..:)

Looking very nice , its going to be a great product , Thanks for the information Gabe :up:

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Can you give us a Core vs dbA comparison or something that shows the whole picture from min to max of each kit?

We need MOAR!..:)

In case anyone missed it here is the video Linus put up on YT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=tZgctchIQ7M

I do like those handy swivel joints and tubing. Testing aside, the beefy thick walled 5/8" tubing and swivel fittings along with the expandability is enough to win me over one of the sealed AIO kits. Despite the lack of testing detail, I do like the system and would consider buying one myself, nice kit. That price alone is hard to pass up on a system that is expandable. Looks good guys although it is killing me not seeing inside that pump, I want to see the inner workings!!..:)

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Thanks for that youtube !
I can see I will be changing out cooling here soon :)

haha yeah, I know right but still it works :D
half the wattage doesn't mean half the hydraulic power

enthusiast doesn't necessarily mean overkill :D

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Originally Posted by Martinm210

Can you give us a Core vs dbA comparison or something that shows the whole picture from min to max of each kit?

We need MOAR!..:)

In case anyone missed it here is the video Linus put up on YT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=tZgctchIQ7M

I do like those handy swivel joints and tubing. Testing aside, the beefy thick walled 5/8" tubing and swivel fittings along with the expandability is enough to win me over one of the sealed AIO kits. Despite the lack of testing detail, I do like the system and would consider buying one myself, nice kit. That price alone is hard to pass up on a system that is expandable. Looks good guys although it is killing me not seeing inside that pump, I want to see the inner workings!!..:)

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testing details: 3 machines with same CPU (o/c voltage/bios settings)/case/memory/OS (ghosted OS)/same everything running at 1,400 RPM all 3 cooling systems - all 8 threads of each CPU loaded to 100% - running coretemp with logging ON. Tests results are displayed off a laptop that reads each Coretemp logs once a second to read the temperature of the 4 cores - averaging them out - and also displaying the average of these 4 cores through the last 10 minutes (we show Current temp / and last 10mn Avg).

the 3 machines were next to each other on the suite's conference table. We ran this demo 27 times from monday night to early friday morning. Difference between H220 and TT water 2.0 Extreme varied from about 1C to 4C. Difference between H220 and Corsair H100i varied from 4C to 7C.

After thermal test demo, we did some noise comparison - I haven't watched the video yet but IRL it was very easy to hear the differences

we'll have much more test data published on the product page soon.

Nice!
Is the black tubing just a 3/8" ID x 5/8" OD or a metric equivalent?

I imagine people wanting to expand from the CPU only will be looking for a few more feet.
Is it similar to Tygon 3400?
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/tyr33id5odla1.html

could buy one for my bro as a birthday present

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Nice!
Is the black tubing just a 3/8" ID x 5/8" OD or a metric equivalent?

I imagine people wanting to expand from the CPU only will be looking for a few more feet.
Is it similar to Tygon 3400?
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/tyr33id5odla1.html

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it is 3/8 by 5/8 - we'll have this tubing for sale soon and ready for upgrades

That block/pump look great. I can see using a setup like that in my wife's PC, I'm gonna tell her about it. She needs better cooling by far.

Will you make the block/pump setup available by itself, for those wanting to say setup multi-socket boards?

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That block/pump look great. I can see using a setup like that in my wife's PC, I'm gonna tell her about it. She needs better cooling by far.

Will you make the block/pump setup available by itself, for those wanting to say setup multi-socket boards?

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yeah they already have it, called apogee drive I
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I've got a quad socket that could use them but 4x35x when there's no PWM available seems to be wasteful. Also, 4 sockets. Not made of money, not on this fixed income. Also, I happen to like the aesthetics.

This looks amazing. I'd use this over the Corsair kits simply because I have the ability to refill them when they do have issues. I've avoided the corsair/astek offerings because I can't refill them or repair them once they break. How is bleeding this unit?

My only concern is users might end up buying this, and trying to expand too far with this product based on what it was designed for. I can just see some of my clients asking me now if they can buy this and later on use a 360mm with SLI with this. It would probably work fine, but not as well as a custom-made loop in regards to heat removal.

I'd love to see Swiftech or another water cooling company/retailer make a "build your own kit" with flash/javascript for those whom don't want the pre-made setups. The old ultra kits you guys offered were nice, but offering a selection and even some preset loop setups would be amazing over the "take it or leave it" water cooling kits.

will swiftech be making AMD mounting brackets for the H220?

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will swiftech be making AMD mounting brackets for the H220?

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the AMD hardware is included in the kit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZgct...A0Tunw&index=7

wow very impressed

cant wait for reviews on how this performs on an AMD system, preferably with an FX-8350 at 5ghz :D hint hint

Your production guys must be really proud of this, getting this kind of a kit out at this price is a serious feat!

You said the waterblock is basically the same as the Apogee Drive II, does that mean you could swap out the pump for a DDC to make it a ADII if you wanted to upgrade the whole loop? Will you ever release that pump separately?

Is evaporation of the coolant a problem? I would have thought that might become a problem with big diameter regular watercooling tubing. Or are you using some kind of foam in the res to "soak" up air like I've seen in other AIO kits?


Also, I just saw you're located in Long Beach! I'll be visiting some friends there from early to mid-February, is it possible to drop by your offices to chat a little and pick up some stuff?

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Your production guys must be really proud of this, getting this kind of a kit out at this price is a serious feat!

You said the waterblock is basically the same as the Apogee Drive II, does that mean you could swap out the pump for a DDC to make it a ADII if you wanted to upgrade the whole loop? Will you ever release that pump separately?

Is evaporation of the coolant a problem? I would have thought that might become a problem with big diameter regular watercooling tubing. Or are you using some kind of foam in the res to "soak" up air like I've seen in other AIO kits?


Also, I just saw you're located in Long Beach! I'll be visiting some friends there from early to mid-February, is it possible to drop by your offices to chat a little and pick up some stuff?

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Yes it's basically the same as APD2, though the internal of the mid-housing part is slightly different due to the different design of the pump so there is no way to put an MCP35X without also changing the mid-housing. Among other things, we are using thick wall tubing to reduce evaporation through the tubes.

Hey gabe, do you think one of these will cool a 15 core IB xeon running at 4400MHz?
If so, interested in helping sponsor a mega build with two of these bad boys? :D

Movieman: imho overclock/voltage will rise more total TDP of those cpus then such big core count for them :), and as they very probably will be used on some server boards, there is big chance to have very limited overclock options and as result not rise enough TDP to that of very common but highly o/c-ed desktop cpus.

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Movieman: imho overclock/voltage will rise more total TDP of those cpus then such big core count for them :), and as they very probably will be used on some server boards, there is big chance to have very limited overclock options and as result not rise enough TDP to that of very common but highly o/c-ed desktop cpus.

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We will see I guess..It's not what you get to, it's the adventure of seeing what the limits are! :D

If anyone missed it (like me) Overclockers has had a review up for a few days:
http://www.overclockers.com/swiftech...-cooler-review

Unfortunately, the data for the Noctua NH-D14 and the Corsair H100i was collected on a different system/CPU. But they have nice photos of the internals!

FYI,
Just getting started on my "living" review. I have finished the unboxing and phase 1 installation and working on starting in on phase 1 testing.

http://martinsliquidlab.org/2013/01/...cooling-kit/1/

http://martinsliquidlab.files.wordpr...pg?w=614&h=410

Great to hear Martin...can't wait for that.

Hi stephenswiftech, gabe

When can we expect H320 all in one kit and what price tag will it be aveliable for?
Btw. do you plan to release 140mm version of AIO set and if so when can we expect it ?

cheers

no ETA or pricing on other form factors but we are indeed working on them.

Thanks

I am getting a Thermaltake water 2 exteme to compare to my Noctua NH-D14 today and then will get this new one too so I cant wait to get it as it looks good.

Hi stephen, i have a quick question for you, beside the radiator that the unit comes with, do you have an smaller size option for the second rad. My case can't fit 2 of those. Btw what brand of vga cooler have you try on this system. Thanks in advance.

Your buying/getting that as something to do a test on?

LOL.

Anandtech review: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6716/c...and-swiftech/4

I can answer your question about adding a second radiator. If you look on our website we sell a 120mm version in either the QP or the XP variety. The QP is meant for quiet performance and the XP is meant for extreme performance. You'll notice that the fins on the QP are spaced farther apart for lower speed fans and the XP has them spaced closer together for higher speed fans. I'm currently working as a member of Swiftech's Customer Support Team and I'd be happy to answer any further questions that you might have about our products.

Thanks for all the info, hopefully you guys will have videos on how to expand the system in the near future.

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Thanks for all the info, hopefully you guys will have videos on how to expand the system in the near future.

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We are looking to have one for expanding this kit. It might be done by a reviewer that we'll select for this purpose. As of right now we don't have anything concrete yet, but we do have plans to have some kind of video guide that will explain how to expand the kit. Thanks for the question.

any performance results using an AMD FX chip 8150 or 8350?

Looks great and good price too. I would defiantly buy that over any other AIO.

Will this fit mounted to the top of my HAF912?

I dunno Bill, have you researched if it will fit?

Have you done anything but post this question?

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I dunno Bill, have you researched if it will fit?

Have you done anything but post this question?

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Just being lazy and asking?:yepp:

I don't think it will. It doesn't have the same large top like the haf932, unless you want to mount externally and drill some holes.

The wait is over , head over and check out my teaser preview of the Swiftech H220 all in one liquid cooling kit upgraded with a MCW-82 7900 water block on the same loop.

check it out here : http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...-point-of-view.

linus did a review

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVNuN0UcYUQ

aftermarket fans help

Will there be a single radiator 120mm version? Have a small case so a dual 120mm rad will not be ideal.

Yes we got 120 and 320 versions coming soon.

Hopefully a lower priced version too. Something in the $70 to $80 range would be a nice sweet spot.

Any more news on this?

Ordered mine today to replace my corsair H70 . Can't wait :)

Been working on my review for a while now:
http://martinsliquidlab.org/2013/01/...r-cooling-kit/

Here are some bits and pieces:

PWM control results:
http://martinsliquidlab.files.wordpr...onse.png?w=614

Pump/Block PQ comparison to the H100i:
http://martinsliquidlab.files.wordpr...pq02.png?w=614


Bottom of case mount thermal results relative to the XSPC kit and Larkooler kit:
http://martinsliquidlab.files.wordpr...th08.png?w=614

Bottom of case using the same GT fans compared to the XSPC kit:
http://martinsliquidlab.files.wordpr...ng?w=592&h=856

Top of case noise comparison to the H100i

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cTf0Vq1j4Ec

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dSKSVKv3Sxk

Pump only noise:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TtOQXWi-iPs

Kit vs kit testing Top of Case condition vs the H100i:
http://martinsliquidlab.files.wordpr...h-29.png?w=614
At like noise levels where it matters (1000-1800) the H220 is in the lead by a couple of degrees. H100i has higher speeds, but 60dBA is extremely loud and beyond what most could tolerate for any regular use. H220 fans are a much better silent option.

Top of case condition GT15 same fans comparison to the H100i:
http://martinsliquidlab.files.wordpr...fans.png?w=614
GTs are still king, and with the same exact fan the H220 is quite a bit stronger, particularly at silent speeds.

Really nice quiet kit, most difficult part is finding stock right now. Hopefully they catch up with demand pretty soon as it's been OOS in many places for a couple of weeks now.

Martin: can you somehow test pressure of H220's block without block extra resistance? (maybe by half immersing it in water bowel without block base?) So that it can be tested as just pump and compared to eg. DDC 1T or 1T+. I'd be interested in seeing it's performance w/o block resistance in more apple to apple comparison to common pumps. (Hmm, or those + HD block, if internals are similar?)

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Martin: can you somehow test pressure of H220's block without block extra resistance? (maybe by half immersing it in water bowel without block base?) So that it can be tested as just pump and compared to eg. DDC 1T or 1T+. I'd be interested in seeing it's performance w/o block resistance in more apple to apple comparison to common pumps. (Hmm, or those + HD block, if internals are similar?)

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Thought ablout that, but not sure how to do it. Best bet it to test some DIY stuff as block/pump combos to include the block restriction similarly and compare that. APD2 would be a good comparison as well. A 35x top will actually fit but I'm not comfortable running without the second bearing shaft support. Head pressure should be much the same but max flow rate would likely be much higher.

Would love to get my hands on one of these for my 3770k! Problem is they seem to be either out of stock or grossly overpriced. I would have to figure out where to mount this on my acrylic case.

I heard they are a few weeks out in providing more supply (new manufacturing plant). If you can wait a few weeks to a month, they will probably be readily available again.

I recommended this to a friend of mine , he's waiting for over a month now with the shop that shipped to me in 2 days .
Not available they say .

A few of these popped up at Newegg a 4 -5 days ago but were gone in a heart beat.