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New Koolance CPU-380 Water Blocks!
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It looks alot like a xspc acetal top inside and a EK supreme HF bottom
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I think they look pretty nice. Mountings look very good also !
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Originally Posted by
Riska
It looks alot like a xspc acetal top inside and a EK supreme HF bottom
Except it performs better than either. Also the 380 top is similar to koolance CPU 370 which came out before raystorms similar top. But they all build on others designs, the key is making it better, which looks like Koolance did.
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I hope I can test this one I wonder how it performs on 1155.
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Are they microoo pins or the slots we see on many blocks these days? hard to tell from the pic.
The 370 is a decent block, hoping to see what Koolance has this time.
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Conumdrum
Are they microoo pins or the slots we see on many blocks these days? hard to tell from the pic.
The 370 is a decent block, hoping to see what Koolance has this time.
They are microfins (no pins).
Tim
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Moved to ivy bridge today. Opened my CPU-350 and it's looking beat after 4 years.
Anyone have these in stock?
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Running a CPU-370 v1.1 with an EK Supremacy sitting on my desk. Might have the sell the EK before I get to use it. :rolleyes:
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Hats off for pulling top performance. Pitty looks have suffered a lot. After EK supremacy bubbles now this. Block would look more acceptable & I wouldn't badmouth 380 .. if there weren't 360 & 370 before which were imho almost benchmark how good blocks might look. New design probably is cheaper to make, is not THAT bad looking among common looking blocks, might even be ok design for budget blocks like 370S{I,A}. But 360/370 from before spoils it :(. Of course, it's just my taste/opinion, there might be some who prefer new looks to old design.
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Originally Posted by
snowball
Moved to ivy bridge today. Opened my CPU-350 and it's looking beat after 4 years.
Anyone have these in stock?
The Koolance store does, haven't seen any of the usual stores get them in stock though
$75 which makes it less than the 370 - so yeah I think they did cut costs by moving away from full metal, but at least that got passed on to the buyer too.
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Is the preferred orientation of the ports vertical with this block? Or is it just for the photo. I always used my 370 with the ports horizontal.
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I ordered one last night, looking forward to testing it out. Hopefully they, or someone, will come out with different tops (clear, metal, etc)
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Originally Posted by
Feklar
Is the preferred orientation of the ports vertical with this block? Or is it just for the photo. I always used my 370 with the ports horizontal.
In my testing I orient the block so that the text and logos would be the right way up when a motherboard is in a "normal" tower case. I assume this is what a manufacturer would expect you to do. It should be noted that this means that the channels on the 370 block will be going vertically but the 380 will be going horizontally
Once I'm done with all the other block testing, I'll be going back to double check what effect, if any, this has.
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ugly as hell.. but the performance is impressive
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What is the maximum size of compressions that will fit next to each other on top? And what size are those in the photo please? Thank you. :)
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I really like the looks and finish quality.
This is definitely going to be my next block. :)
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musicfan
What is the maximum size of compressions that will fit next to each other on top? And what size are those in the photo please? Thank you. :)
Not sure - the port spacing looks to be about 25mm centre to centre, but here's a photo with my VL4N's on there which are larger than most 1/2x3/4 compressions:
http://i.imgur.com/CJq9xh.jpg
FWIW the only block that I couldn't fit this VL4N setup on was the watercool heatkiller.
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musicfan
What is the maximum size of compressions that will fit next to each other on top? And what size are those in the photo please? Thank you. :)
I measured the distance from center on the threads at about 26mm. I believe we used 10x16mm compression fittings in those photos, but our 13x19mm compressions also fit fine.
We know aesthetics will always get mixed opinions, as it also was for the CPU-360/370 (a design I'm partial to). Eventually, though, you've gotta try something new :). The main focus for CPU-380 was on performance and lowering the price from CPU-360/370.
Tim
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Originally Posted by
Koolance
I measured the distance from center on the threads at about 26mm. I believe we used 10x16mm compression fittings in those photos, but our 13x19mm compressions also fit fine.
We know aesthetics will always get mixed opinions, as it also was for the CPU-360/370 (a design I'm partial to). Eventually, though, you've gotta try something new :). The main focus for CPU-380 was on performance and lowering the price from CPU-360/370.
Tim
Any plans on making different tops you can buy separately? I'm a sucker for clear tops. Either way, mine should be here on Tuesday. Cant wait...
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Koolance: what do you think of releasing full-black block (with matte black mounting plate) or optional replacement plate (with also black all of the mounting screws)
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Why does Koolance take an extra SEVEN days to process USPS? I would love to order a block and they are the only ones in stock, but I don't feel like getting ripped off for $20+ for USPS or Fedex shipping when USPS Priority is $7. Almost feels like they add the extra seven days for USPS orders to push you towards spending more on shipping.
Any idea when sidewinder, frozencpu, etc, will have stock?
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Why they place the I/O holes too close omg?
I doubt you could use two 45 degrees 13/19mm compression fittings there...
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Got done with taking the perfomance data vs flow/pump settings and the 380 is still taking names, the high flow temps were so good I had to change my axis minimum:
http://i.imgur.com/cBpyS.png
http://i.imgur.com/RKHoU.png
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Definitely impressive. I don't suppose you have any pictures comparing the internals of both the 370 and the 380? Including the impingement plate.
I'd also prefer black mounting plate and hardware. Chrome is so 2010. :p:
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Any single inlet, dual outlet tops in the backburner?
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lowfat
Definitely impressive. I don't suppose you have any pictures comparing the internals of both the 370 and the 380? Including the impingement plate.
I'd also prefer black mounting plate and hardware. Chrome is so 2010. :p:
370:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post5123407
380:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post5123408
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Clear top: We do not have plans to offer this. With acetal, you might strip threads if fittings or assembly screws are over-tightened, but the block won't crack. That's not the case with acrylic. Acetal and metal are more robust, but you do lose the transparency option.
Black bracket: It's a suggestion we've been tossing around, too. We might at least offer the top bracket optionally in black, but that hasn't been decided yet.
USPS: The processing time is "up to 7 days", but it's usually 1-3. We don't have a daily pickup service with USPS (unlike with UPS), and it takes our shipping person longer to ready the USPS labels and schedule a pickup. We just started offering USPS this year for lighter weight packages, so shipments will become more frequent as we increase the max weight and automate more of the labeling process. We also want to get FedEx into our website options.
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Originally Posted by
jogshy
Why they place the I/O holes too close omg?
I doubt you could use two 45 degrees 13/19mm compression fittings there...
As mentioned, our straight 13x19mm compressions fit the CPU-380 just fine. There's still another 1.5mm left in between them.
Tim
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Originally Posted by
Boogerlad
Any single inlet, dual outlet tops in the backburner?
Not at this time. We've worked hard to get as much performance out of the block as possible. Adding another outlet would make it a totally different beast, requiring very different internals and a redesign.
Tim
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Koolance: btw .. what do you think of crazy idea to separate looks from performance for future blocks. As in bracket covering whole block but inlets (with standartised inlet/outlet distance for all the blocks (of course allowing biggest of them)), no difficult cutout shape (like four halfrings in 3[6,7]# or one in 380) in bracket or of block core itself. This way any future bracket should fit any block internals, even old (post-380 :)) blocks be usable on future sockets without releasing specific parts for specific blocks, or different outwards looks be combinable with any block insides. This will strike out clear top option though. There can be optional brackets with integrated pump tops, or optional brackets with multi inlets/outlets (probably acting like cut inside bracket waterpaths like some T adapter), and again, usable with any (thus upgradable in future) block core.
Another crazy idea is to release bracket with integrated mini lcd-s for displaying temp & flow and/or leds. If it's separated from block core (thus allowing upgrades), it might be more universal to justify purchase of such higher priced accessory. Hmm, then again it might be designed standard sized & detachable from bracket as well, for even more universality.
Hmm, thinking even further .. maybe for such universal brackets some adapters below them can be released for them to be mountable upon even older blocks like 360/370 ..
P.S.
You can also consider for future blocks about possibility to change bow to optimize block for specific sockets like supremacy does with different thickness shims/jetplates to squeeze out every last performance bit.
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Another crazy idea is to release bracket with integrated mini lcd-s for displaying temp & flow and/or leds.
oohhhhh...i like that idea. an integrated temp readout built into the block itself. flow might be difficult since i would expect that it would change the restriction and flow characteristics within the block, but temp should be possible.....
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How do i install it on Intel socket 2011?
Do you screw the threaded posts from above the mobo? (No need for access from behind the mobo). And 4 plastic washers is enough right?
https://koolance.com/files/products/...0i_d100eng.pdf
Step 3: "Use the included threaded posts on the motherboard?s back plate for Intel socket LGA 2011."
There is no installation instructions for LGA 2011 except that sentence.
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You use the stock backplate that comes on every LGA2011 board. The screws will be m4 threaded screws, likely different than the ones used for the one motherboard types.
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lowfat
You use the stock backplate that comes on every LGA2011 board. The screws will be m4 threaded screws, likely different than the ones used for the one motherboard types.
Ye but i should screw the short threaded size from top right?
Should i use a wrench when i tighten the screw?
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Yes thread them from the top. You shouldn't need a wrench.
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Ok i mounted it now, but i made 2 mistakes.
I'm more embarrased about the first mistake: i forgot the springs, but i noticed the mistake before i fully tightened the thumb screws.
The second mistake: it seems like i bottomed out the springs, so apparently i tightened the thumb screws too hard? But i used only a little force so i was surprised when the thumb screws suddenly stopped turning. So i don't really understand how that can bee to tight.
Did i destroy the CPU block, motherboard, and/or the CPU?
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Some blocks are designed to bottom out the screws. Is the motherboard warping at all from too much pressure? If so then loosen them. If not then it should be ok.
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lowfat
Some blocks are designed to bottom out the screws. Is the motherboard warping at all from too much pressure? If so then loosen them. If not then it should be ok.
It kinda felt like they are designed to bottom out. But i could be wrong.
I can't see if the motherboard is warped.
Have you installed 380I? If yes: you didn't bottom out the springs?
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Nope. I've never used the 380i.
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When using the 380i you do not bottom out the thumb nuts. Below is from the instructions included with the block. If the mounting system was designed to bottom out this info would not be necessary.
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DO NOT OVERTIGHTEN THUMB NUTS OR DAMAGE TO THE WATER
BLOCK, PROCESSOR, OR MOTHERBOARD COULD RESULT!
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Praz
When using the 380i you do not bottom out the thumb nuts. Below is from the instructions included with the block. If the mounting system was designed to bottom out this info would not be necessary.
That info doesn't help at all because it's impossible to know how tight is too tight.
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Blackbird_CaD_
That info doesn't help at all because it's impossible to know how tight is too tight.
I apologize that did not answer your questions. Everything you wrote referenced bottoming out the thumb screws not "how tight is too tight". How tight is a matter of feel and comes with experience. Using all the included hardware I adjust the thumb screws until the distance from the top of the thumb screws to the surface of the motherboard is 1.073" for Intel..
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Black plate for 380.
Now i can say that this block isn't ugly anymore.
